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Walter Ego
12th December 2008, 10:35 PM
From Slate Magazine

How the secret order influenced the great composer.

Since Beethoven's day, the secrecy and world-ordering agenda of the Illuminati have made them a natural magnet for conspiracy freaks. The Illuminati actually existed only some nine years, but there are still lots of folks, including many on the American religious right and the John Birch Society, who believe the Illuminati are the mother of all conspiracies, a Jewish-dominated international cabal that has more or less run the world since they incited the French Revolution. My saying they were a short-lived and a bit pathetic phenomenon makes me, of course, part of the conspiracy—along with Beethoven. I'd like finally to meet some of my fellow conspirators. They seem like interesting people.

Complete article here (http://www.slate.com/toolbar.aspx?action=read&id=2206021).

240-185
13th December 2008, 12:46 AM
a Jewish-dominated international cabal that has more or less run the world since they incited the French Revolution

Hey, it was supposed to be freemasons who incited French Revolution...

Aitch
13th December 2008, 01:15 AM
Hey, it was supposed to be freemasons who incited French Revolution...

Maybe the Illuminati were busy and sub-contracted the job?

Donal
15th December 2008, 06:19 PM
but there are still lots of folks, including many on the American religious right and the John Birch Society, who believe the Illuminati are the mother of all conspiracies, a Jewish-dominated international cabal

Wouldn't be a Slate article if they didn't take a swipe.

Drudgewire
15th December 2008, 06:22 PM
Wouldn't be a Slate article if they didn't take a swipe.


Yeah, good to know there's no left-wing paranoia towards the Illuminati. :rolleyes:

moon1969
17th December 2008, 03:13 AM
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe was also a member of the illuminati started by Adam Weishaupt.

Brainache
17th December 2008, 10:26 AM
Beethoven And the Illuminati

Sounds like one of those old fashioned band names, like "Bill Haley and The Comets" or "Buddy Holly and The Crickets".

I think Beethoven and The Illuminati split up because he never listened to anyone else's opinions in band meetings, but of course they told the press it was because of "Artistic Differences".

It also didn't help that they got Goethe to be their manager. That guy kept making deals with the wrong people...

DC
17th December 2008, 02:29 PM
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe was also a member of the illuminati started by Adam Weishaupt.

Freiherr Knigge was also a member.
it seems to be one of the most interesting clubs of that time.