Playboy Mexico Publishes Nude Virgin Mary theme on Cover

[articulett]

Mary Christmas.

http://mindrelaxingideas.blogspot.com/2008/12/playboy-mexico-publishes-nude-virgin.html

[Madalch]

Hmmph.

Judging by the shock I've heard about, you'd think they had photoshopped in a halo.

Or two.

[articulett]

For some reason, I just find religion endless fodder for amusement.

In any case, it looks like it makes for great publicity whenever you can offend the holier-than-thou.

I'm sure many marketing executives are taking notes.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'm in love with the virgin Mary. :drool::eye-poppi:shy:

[articulett]

Careful.... she's a tease, but I heard she doesn't put out.

Also, she has a kid.

[Pardalis]

I'm in love with the virgin Mary. :drool::eye-poppi:shy:

I always had a thing for Olivia Hussey.

Also, she has a kid.

Apparently she has two, doesn't Jesus have a brother or something? (which would make Mary no longer a virgin...)

[Giggywig]

I'm currently in Mexico. I might have to pick up a copy. For skepticism.

[Pardalis]

I'm currently in Mexico. I might have to pick up a copy. For skepticism.

You spelled fetishism incorrectly.

[fuelair]

I always had a thing for Olivia Hussey.



...)
You could have done worse!! I figured out how to process under exposed slide film to get that quick scene in Romeo and Juliet off the screen (this was the 70's).

[Skeptic Ginger]

Looking for the Catholic response to this (not too much on Google's first search page yet) I found what looks like a very long history of the Catholic Church's interest in Playboy as a whipping post. I had no idea the Catholics hated Playboy so much.

[Terry]

I don't think someone wrapped in a sheet that covers all the naughty bits is really posing nude.

[Skeptic Ginger]

I don't think someone wrapped in a sheet that covers all the naughty bits is really posing nude.There's a breast showing in other pictures. I don't think Playboy puts breasts on the cover but I could be wrong.

[articulett]

Nor does a sheet over ones head and a stained glass window indicate one is a virgin-- much less "posing as the Virgin Mary"...

I think some religious people take their iconography way too seriously and are eager to take offense and imagine persecution where there is none.

On the other hand, their reaction certainly increases sales of the the things they disapprove of. I applaud this. One can always count on bringing loud attention to themselves if they can ruffle the feathers of the Catholics.

[Giggywig]

Nor does a sheet over ones head and a stained glass window indicate one is a virgin-- much less "posing as the Virgin Mary"...
Let's not pretend Playboy didn't know what they were doing. Of course they were going for the image of the Virgin. They chose a girl named Mary (granted, extremely common in Mexico), the cover says "We adore you, Maria" which has the double meaning of worship and love, the article is titled "Blessed be," and it was released within days of the feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe, which is a rather important religious icon in Mexico. It's a publicity stunt, it will work, and more power to them.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I don't think someone wrapped in a sheet that covers all the naughty bits is really posing nude.

Are we talking about Playboy models or altar boys?

[Terry]

Are we talking about Playboy models or altar boys?

I'm talking about the magazine cover picture. You get your mind out of the gutter ;)

[Polaris]

I don't think someone wrapped in a sheet that covers all the naughty bits is really posing nude.

That's true - aggravatingly so in that you've just described a surprising number of pictorials inside the goddamn magazine.

Focus: Now I know what made God's knees knock. She's always looked so plain in those statues in church.

[malbui]

I don't know about anyone else, but now I'm a worshipper.

[CFLarsen]

That's not nude.

[Madalch]

If you remember waaaayyyy back to when Madonna (the singer) did a display in one of those magazines (never saw it, but remember the joke about it looking like she had Willie Nelson in a headlock), Hustler had a cartoon about having the "real Madonna" posing for them.

So it's an old joke.

[fuelair]

I don't think someone wrapped in a sheet that covers all the naughty bits is really posing nude.
If you hit the full set of pics listed, there is one full frontal in it. As I am at work and can't get to it, you'll have to wait or check yourself for it's existence. Looks like the Mexican Playboy is where ours was 30 or more years ago in exposure unless this one is less exposure than the norm for them.

[Boran]

There is no way to mark a thread for follow up (at home ;)) So I'll just post here to ensure I can find this again.

[quarky]

Keep in mind, Jesus was the first pin-up.
Scantily clad; tits showing; moist with sweat; good looking.

[ZirconBlue]

There is no way to mark a thread for follow up (at home ;)) So I'll just post here to ensure I can find this again.

At the top right of the thread pick "Thread Tools" > "Subscribe to this Thread". Then, you can view your subscribed threads in your User CP.

[Disbelief]

I had no idea the Catholics hated Playboy so much.

I never hated Playboy.

[bjornart]

Nor does a sheet over ones head and a stained glass window indicate one is a virgin-- much less "posing as the Virgin Mary"...


I think posing with a big-ass religious-looking crown and a veil indicates one is posing as the virgin Mary though, even if that's all one is wearing.

(Picture 7 and 8. NSFW, unless your workplace approves of boobs.)

[Safe-Keeper]

Depicting Jesus Christ mutilated on the cross: Perfectly fine.
Depicting Mary half-naked (butt and breast showing): Won't someone please think of the childreeeeeen!?

I see how this can be blasphemous, though.

[quixotecoyote]

I think posing with a big-ass religious-looking crown and a veil indicates one is posing as the virgin Mary though, even if that's all one is wearing.

(Picture 7 and 8. NSFW, unless your workplace approves of boobs.)

I'm unfamiliar with the crown as a part of Mary's religious iconography. I assumed they were playing off multiple "mary"s

[roger]

Careful.... she's a tease, but I heard she doesn't put out.

Also, she has a kid.
Well,that is what she says.

And she'll never hit you up for paternity payments!

[kedo1981]

HAIL MARY FULL OF GRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Funny side note: my Wifee bought me a 1961 Playboy off a Ebay, ONE ONLY SLIGHTLY NAUGHTY PICTURE IN IT? WTF

[quarky]

Please don't lose track of this:

The Virgin Mary was the hottest woman in existence at the time.
Even in the old paintings, she's no dog.
She was also a teenager.

There's a reason God chose her to impregnate.

You don't hear much about other women God may have knocked up.

[neutrino_cannon]

I could see a magazine pulling this stunt in the US, and only stirring up perfunctory indignation, but Mexico? That sounds so provocative as to be stupid.

[JoeyDonuts]

I bet Jack Chick's anti-Catholicism tracts would attract more attention if SHE was on the cover.

I would like her to bless me, for I have sinned. :eye-poppi

[JoeyDonuts]

HAIL MARY FULL OF GRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Funny side note: my Wifee bought me a 1961 Playboy off a Ebay, ONE ONLY SLIGHTLY NAUGHTY PICTURE IN IT? WTF

Ooooh! Raucous exposed midriff! I'm all aflush!

[bjornart]

I'm unfamiliar with the crown as a part of Mary's religious iconography. I assumed they were playing off multiple "mary"s

I've seen quite a few, even if it's more common without. A google search on madonna and statue shows several.

[Beady]

Am I the only one who saw that picture and immediately thought of "The Fallen Madonna with the Big Boobies"?

[Rufo]

If you remember waaaayyyy back to when Madonna (the singer) did a display in one of those magazines (never saw it, but remember the joke about it looking like she had Willie Nelson in a headlock), Hustler had a cartoon about having the "real Madonna" posing for them.

So it's an old joke.
Old indeed. Sexualized depictions of Mary go way back in her iconography as well. I think I recall an historian even arguing that many depictions of her tend to serve as excellent examples of the physical ideal for women at the time.

It's a pretty ridiculous provocation, but in a time when virgins seem to be becoming less of an ideal, perhaps they're doing the Catholic Church more of a favor than they'll get credit for.

[slingblade]

Well, I looked at all the pictures, to see what the fuss was about, and I must say, you people have some nerve calling yourselves skeptics.













Aint no way in hell that woman's a virgin.

[Ron_Tomkins]

Mary Christmas.

http://mindrelaxingideas.blogspot.com/2008/12/playboy-mexico-publishes-nude-virgin.html

OOooooohhh, I've been a bad boy, Virgin Mary. A very bad boy. I've been a sinner. Please punish me. Please.

[articulett]

Well, I looked at all the pictures, to see what the fuss was about, and I must say, you people have some nerve calling yourselves skeptics.













Aint no way in hell that woman's a virgin.




Wow, they're THAT graphic?

[ma1ic3]

Playboy apologized...

In a statement Saturday, Playboy Enterprises Inc. apologized for the distasteful cover.

“The image is not and never was intended to portray the Virgin of Guadalupe or any other religious figure. The intent was to reflect a Renaissance-like mood on the cover.”

“While Playboy Mexico never meant for the cover or images to offend anyone, we recognize that it has created offense, and we as well as Playboy Mexico offer our sincerest apologies.”

http://www.popcrunch.com/nude-virgin-mary-playboy-mexico-cover-apology/

[gerdbonk]

Jesus' Mom has got it goin' on,
She's all I want,
And I've waited for so long,
Jesus can't you see,
You're just not the Christ for me,
I know it might be wrong,
But I'm in love with Jesus' Mom

[articulett]

Playboy apologized...

In a statement Saturday, Playboy Enterprises Inc. apologized for the distasteful cover.

“The image is not and never was intended to portray the Virgin of Guadalupe or any other religious figure. The intent was to reflect a Renaissance-like mood on the cover.”

“While Playboy Mexico never meant for the cover or images to offend anyone, we recognize that it has created offense, and we as well as Playboy Mexico offer our sincerest apologies.”

http://www.popcrunch.com/nude-virgin-mary-playboy-mexico-cover-apology/

See there, Giggywig,-- it wasn't the Virgin of Guadalupe or any other religious figure... the intent was just to reflect a "Renaissance-like mood".

[KingMerv00]

I had no idea the Catholics hated Playboy so much.

Remind me, what's the Church's official position on masturbation?

[Beady]

Last I heard, it's still a venial sin.

"Masturbation! The amazing availability of it!" -- Brendan Behan

[Skeptic Ginger]

I never hated Playboy.Sorry, I should have said the official Catholic position or the actions of the Catholic leadership.

[The Nimble Pianist]

Psh... You'd think they at least get a Brown woman for the shoot to better represent Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe.

If the cover hadn't said "María te adoramos" I'd would have never thought it was Mary, but just another white girl with a sheet on her head.

[Skeptic Ginger]

Remind me, what's the Church's official position on masturbation?Of course, should of thought of that. If you're against masturbation, you would likely be against aids in committing the sin as well. D'oh!


Catechism of the Catholic Church (from the Vatican website (http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm)Offenses against chastity

2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.

2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action."137 "The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose." For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of "the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved."138

To form an equitable judgment about the subjects' moral responsibility and to guide pastoral action, one must take into account the affective immaturity, force of acquired habit, conditions of anxiety or other psychological or social factors that lessen, if not even reduce to a minimum, moral culpability.

For a really ignorant view, see this site. (http://www.couragerc.net/PIPMasturbation.html)


These guys are sick, (sorry Disbelief). Even as they excuse the reason behind viewing masturbation as a sin by equating it with spoiling your chastity, when asked if it's OK then if you are married, instead of saying, sure, the two sites I looked at (the one above and another with priests answering lay questions (http://www.stspeterpaul.san-francisco.ca.us/church/ask_the_fathers_sexuality.htm)), talked around the answer instead. They focused on the reasons one would not be getting it directly from the wife. And, it doesn't even seem to dawn on them woman masturbate too.

[Skeptic Ginger]

Psh... You'd think they at least get a Brown woman for the shoot to better represent Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe.

If the cover hadn't said "María te adoramos" I'd would have never thought it was Mary, but just another white girl with a sheet on her head.You mean it wasn't just another white woman with a sheet on her head?

[The Nimble Pianist]

You mean it wasn't just another white woman with a sheet on her head?

It seems I missed the part about Playboy apologizing for any perceived sacrilege. I guess they never meant it to represent la virgen.

[malbui]

She had a sheet on her head?

[The Nimble Pianist]

sheet... comforter... drapes... something made of cloth!

[KingMerv00]

Catechism of the Catholic Church (from the Vatican website (http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm)

For a really ignorant view, see this site. (http://www.couragerc.net/PIPMasturbation.html)

They refer to lust and masturbation as "disordered". What an odd choice of words. I imagine some people are very ordered when it comes to .... ya know. :boxedin:

[The Nimble Pianist]

They refer to lust and masturbation as "disordered". What an odd choice of words. I imagine some people are very ordered when it comes to .... ya know. :boxedin:

'Disordered' = Violates the 'Natural Law'.