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Hegel
6th November 2003, 02:46 PM
I have heard a large number of people claiming that there is no alternative to capitalism. I read an interesting book, called After Capitalism, by David Schweickart. This book, instead of just bashing the capitalistic theories, provided a coherent replacement for the phasing out of capitalism.

He defined economic democracy as containing:
1. Worker ownership of all firms.
2. A market in which commodities are traded for money.
3. A system of public investment banks.

On one:
The workers in a firm, using a one man, one vote system elect a board which selects upper management, and then upper management selects lower management ad nauseum. Because the firms are worker owned, the profit margins are divided up between the workers. Not neccessarily perfectly equally, but having at most the top employees being payed about 10 times that of the lowest paid employee.

On two:
Works like any other market society. Firms compete against one another for the best consumption of goods.

On three:
All firms would pay a set capital assets tax, which would be a cut of the firms profits. This money would go to a capital investment fund. The national government would then take some of that money and spend it on national projects. Then they would send the rest of the money down on a per capita system to the regional levels, where money would be spent on regional projects. Finally, again on the per capita system, money would be sent to the local level. There it would be sent to a set of banks, based on their history of making profitable investments and employment creating investments. Current cooperatives and start up cooperatives then petition the banks for capital, and a granted money, if they are deemed to be both profitable and based on ability to grant employment.

That is a simple outline of what David Schweickart calls economic democracy. Let's see critiques, complements, questions, and concerns!

Cain
6th November 2003, 03:21 PM
I do not have much to contribute in the way of criticism. I did read David Schweickart's original book _Capitalism or Worker Control? An Ethical and Economic Appraisal_. His follow-up, _After Capitalism_, which I got to about chapter three is basically an update of the previous work.

You might be interested in _Market Socialism: The Debate Among Socialists_, where he makes a few contributions, or the alternative argued for by Mike Albert, ParEcon (participatory economics).

dsm
7th November 2003, 09:44 AM
What will we do in a society based upon nanotechnology where (supposedly) resources will no longer be scarce since we will be able to rearrange as needed the molecules of resources we have plenty of into resources we lack?

Does capitalism fail when there is no longer a market? What will we do in it's place?

:confused:

aerocontrols
7th November 2003, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by Hegel
The workers in a firm, using a one man, one vote system elect a board which selects upper management, and then upper management selects lower management ad nauseum. Because the firms are worker owned, the profit margins are divided up between the workers. Not neccessarily perfectly equally, but having at most the top employees being payed about 10 times that of the lowest paid employee.

It seems to me that nothing stands in the way of someone giving this a try. Someone should have a go at it, and see how it turns out.

MattJ

BillyTK
7th November 2003, 10:16 AM
The co-operative movement, circa 19th century Rochdale in Lancashire? I tried googling up some links but all I found was a load of promo bumf for the Co-op.