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TobiasTheViking
27th January 2009, 06:00 AM
So, my employer keeps asking me for some small simple program.. like

Calender Synchronizer
Document Synchronizer

and now
Journaling Software.

the first two i had to implement myself, because the usecase in our company is specific enough that all the programs i encountered were no go.

But instead of spending months developing a journaling software that fits our needs, it would probably be better, and most likely cheaper, to just buy it.

I've been searching for most of two days now, and i've come up with nil. So, if someone could help i would be really happy :)

Requirements:
1) Encrypted.
2) Server based
3) Intuitive
4) Allow multiple users with different accounts, that can manipulate the same journal
5) Must keep track of all changes, done by whom, at what point in time.
6) Must work on a Mac
7) Should preferably work while the computer isn't connected to the internet, though this isn't required.


ETA: By journaling i mean a system like: User X opened/locked file Y at time Z, User x unlocked file Y at time Z, user x added file y2 at time z2.

The same with just adding text. So journal may be interchanged with certain uses of Log and Diary.

It would be a pain for me to implement all that, but i could do it.

Anyone got a suggestion?

* TobiasTheViking prepares to see this thread get no usable replies..

Sorry, i'm pessimistic.

Btw, i thought of doing an ssl encrypted wiki, even experimented with it, but it wouldn't be intuitive enough, even with various add-ons and many internal changes.

TobiasTheViking
27th January 2009, 06:07 AM
A program like http://journler.com/ that supported multiple users would probably do the trick, allas, i've installed it, and there is no sharing/server functionality in it.

ddt
27th January 2009, 09:38 AM
With that set of requirements, I'm thinking: you either want an extensive journalled filesystem (does the Mac have any?) or a plain revision control system.

Did you check whether there are nice tools around, say, CVS, or Subversion?

Or would WebDAV as interface meet your needs? Disclaimer: I never played with it.

TobiasTheViking
30th January 2009, 04:01 AM
With that set of requirements, I'm thinking: you either want an extensive journalled filesystem (does the Mac have any?) or a plain revision control system.

Did you check whether there are nice tools around, say, CVS, or Subversion?

Or would WebDAV as interface meet your needs? Disclaimer: I never played with it.

Hah, actually tried all of that(for the documentation sharing that is).. currently that is running off of git.

As four journaling filesystem, that is not at all what i was asking for :)

And the file system is journalled. but that is useless to me. :)

GreNME
30th January 2009, 07:56 AM
I'm not sure why something like CVS wouldn't work for you. Is it too much or too complicated for the end users?

I'm trying to come up with a system that does exist that can do exactly what you seem to want, but either they're not compatible (like MOSS) or they're more like the CVS systems out there, or they do way more than that and are for purposes that don't fit your needs (like Splunk).

Actually, Sharepoint seems to have limited functionality (http://www.microsoft.com/mac/itpros/default.mspx?clr=99-15-0&srcid=99914fd4-21d0-40c4-9dec-b3b2eb5e3b1b1033&ep=9&target=36ae43a9-5dd3-49ab-a304-ca4d5feb66ee1033) with Macintosh users, provided that they're using Office 2008 and have basic authentication enabled on the server. I still doubt that's the kind of answer you're looking for considering the costs involved with it, though.

Wudang
30th January 2009, 11:06 AM
Maybe I'm misreading but that sounds like an audit rather than journaling tool. What about auditd?
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=K8vUkpOXhN4C&pg=PA143&lpg=PA143&dq=%22os+x%22+auditd&source=web&ots=OJkiSVZw_u&sig=-BIK0s1PtKKgG2ZWfcE27yICKSk&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result

TobiasTheViking
31st January 2009, 04:33 AM
I'm not sure why something like CVS wouldn't work for you. Is it too much or too complicated for the end users?

I'm trying to come up with a system that does exist that can do exactly what you seem to want, but either they're not compatible (like MOSS) or they're more like the CVS systems out there, or they do way more than that and are for purposes that don't fit your needs (like Splunk).

Actually, Sharepoint seems to have limited functionality (http://www.microsoft.com/mac/itpros/default.mspx?clr=99-15-0&srcid=99914fd4-21d0-40c4-9dec-b3b2eb5e3b1b1033&ep=9&target=36ae43a9-5dd3-49ab-a304-ca4d5feb66ee1033) with Macintosh users, provided that they're using Office 2008 and have basic authentication enabled on the server. I still doubt that's the kind of answer you're looking for considering the costs involved with it, though.
I'll look into splunk and sharepoint. thanks :)

Maybe I'm misreading but that sounds like an audit rather than journaling tool. What about auditd?
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=K8vUkpOXhN4C&pg=PA143&lpg=PA143&dq=%22os+x%22+auditd&source=web&ots=OJkiSVZw_u&sig=-BIK0s1PtKKgG2ZWfcE27yICKSk&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result
i just get:

Restricted Page
You have reached your viewing limit for this book (why?).

In any case, auditd doesn't work with a remote server.. so no go :(

But thanks :)