Persecution complex grows at RR....

[the_ignored]

This is too good....too much funnyness to describe, so just start reading from here (http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?postid=1216462#post1216462).

[c4ts]

At least nobody mentioned our board. Or did they and I somehow missed it?

[Yahweh]

Yep, I was kicked off of a message board. It was for people recovering from panic attacks, there was this one guy who had just come out of the "closet". This was SUPPOSED to be a christian based site, but all of the people were praising him for his new found freedom. I didn't say anything mean to him, or anyone else, just that maybe praising him for such a thing is not the right (christian) thing to do.
I was kicked off for it.

Rapture Ready is a laugh a minute! :D

[Yahweh]

I was on a generalized message board for sometime. I usually went to the forum where future 'great thinkers' would debate.

They never kicked me off because of my religion, or because I said "Praise the Lord" or something like that. They weren't very fond of me, and many didn't want to debate me (mainly because they can't counter what I say with their secular material) but nobody was really hostile about it.

Am I just a lucky one?

:dl:

[LawnOven]

wow...

I like this guy's double standard in the name of the lord!

Stevangelist:

From my frame of thinking it is so obvious that the one true God of the Holy Bible exists that I don't feel it is badgering to support the truth on a secular message board. Now if someone comes to a Christian message board to try to change peoples belief in God When they know he exists I would consider that badgering.


well atleast there seems to be a couple of them which are halfway reasonable.

[c4ts]

Oh man, I gotta think of a Christian name so I can join that messed up board! Otherwise I won't last 15 minutes with all my heresy.

[c4ts]

Okay, this is my profile for the forum, just so you don't mistake me for a fundie preacher or something.

Name: Blessed_Savior
Sig:
The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour;
2 Samuel 22:3

Now they're not likely to kick me out until after I've questioned their beliefs. I am so going to Hell for this.

[Funkenstien]

I love it. "We Christians are so great, and when Jesus gets here, he'll show all you heathens what for!"

What if Christ returns and says, "Hey guys guess what? My Dad says to stop hating homosexuals and Jews, and that he's pretty upset about how you've been misinterpretting His Word. Oh, and by the way, that whole idea about masterbation? Please. Well, that it's, My work is done. I WON'T be coming back, so think for yourselfs! Gotta split. Darwin, Freud, Einstein and I have a 2 o'clock tee time.

Hell, I'm a christian and I even think we need to be taken down a peg or three.

[arcticpenguin]

I got about half way through the first page, that was all I could stomach.

[TruthSeeker]

what's John 8:44....I can't access online bible from the lab. thanks

[arcticpenguin]

http://wyllie.lib.virginia.edu:8086/perl/toccer-new?id=KjvJohn.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=8&division=div1


44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45: And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

[TruthSeeker]

Thanks AP...no wonder people get irritated with them for posting that !

It's a very sad thread. They are completely blind to their own behaviour. I want to scream "WAKE UP!"

My favorite was the image of Paul cruising the internet forums. How long would he last here or at internet infidels?

I am still waiting for my RR account to be activated.

Something weird going on with the net nanny tonight. Seems to be blocking everything.

[arcticpenguin]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker

Something weird going on with the net nanny tonight. Seems to be blocking everything.
"The Lord works in mysterious ways."

[Tony]

Originally posted by c4ts
Okay, this is my profile for the forum, just so you don't mistake me for a fundie preacher or something.

Name: Blessed_Savior
Sig:
The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour;
2 Samuel 22:3

Now they're not likely to kick me out until after I've questioned their beliefs. I am so going to Hell for this.


LMAO Genius!!.


But be careful, The Fool will accuse you of racism.

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by arcticpenguin

"The Lord works in mysterious ways."

Yes, he is blocking me from online bibles but not a skeptic board...what could that mean?

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by c4ts
Okay, this is my profile for the forum, just so you don't mistake me for a fundie preacher or something.

Name: Blessed_Savior
Sig:
The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour;
2 Samuel 22:3

Now they're not likely to kick me out until after I've questioned their beliefs. I am so going to Hell for this.


A RR voice of reason has pretty much summed up what will happen (although I look forward to watching it unfold):

Take a look around these boards, if you feel hard done by.

It is far easier to be banned as an atheist or Muslim on a fundamentalist BB than it is as a fundamentalist on an atheist BB.

Try it: compare how Christians are treated at Internet Infidels to how atheists are treated here.

And to suggest that Christians are in danger of their lives because you got kicked off a BB is just plain silly.


Personally, I'm looking forward to posting to the single woman whose signature is all about being God's bride. Oh my...

[volant]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker


Yes, he is blocking me from online bibles but not a skeptic board...what could that mean?

You are not worthy of the Lord's word. Sinner, burn in hell!

;)

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by volant


You are not worthy of the Lord's word. Sinner, burn in hell!

;)

That must be it!

Thank you for the insight :)

[Yahweh]

Well, I'll make another attempt to register at RaptureReady...

RaptureReady didnt approve the name "Yahweh", I'll try something less overt. How about "God Hater"... nah, I think I'll try names "Vendyokus", "Vimana", "Lilith", "Hecate", or any other religion-oriented name (my usernames tend to have a "religion-like" theme to them).

[Funkenstien]

It sickens me to think that most of the people on the RR forums think that Jesus, if he came back would be some Jew hating homophobe. Weren't his last words on this earth "Father forgive them, they know not what they do?"

... oh wait a minute. That was in a part of the bible that didn't involve a mysterious parable, or a riddle or a hidden metaphor, (or did it? :p ) so I guess that part didn't get read.

The fundies bible should only contain the Book of Revelations, Ezekiel and then a handful of quotes from a few other books. They seem to throw the rest of it out the window, so why bother even including it? :P

[Matabiri]

Originally posted by Funkenstien
I love it. "We Christians are so great, and when Jesus gets here, he'll show all you heathens what for!"

What if Christ returns and says, "Hey guys guess what? My Dad says to stop hating homosexuals and Jews, and that he's pretty upset about how you've been misinterpretting His Word. Oh, and by the way, that whole idea about masterbation? Please. Well, that it's, My work is done. I WON'T be coming back, so think for yourselfs! Gotta split. Darwin, Freud, Einstein and I have a 2 o'clock tee time.


A bit like this:
http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2002/04/11/boll/index.html

"Thank you, God-man!"

Rich

[Chaos]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker


Yes, he is blocking me from online bibles but not a skeptic board...what could that mean?

Maybe HE has become an atheist and a skeptic in his old days? :D

[Funkenstien]

http://www.theonion.com/onion3734/god_clarifies_dont_kill.html (http://http://www.theonion.com/onion3734/god_clarifies_dont_kill.html)

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by Chaos


Maybe HE has become an atheist and a skeptic in his old days? :D

"After rationally considering all the evidence, I must conclude that I don't exist. I am a myth, most likely stolen from an even older myth.

Now, for a beer and Randi's latest commentary ..."

:D

[triadboy]

Originally posted by c4ts
Okay, this is my profile for the forum, just so you don't mistake me for a fundie preacher or something.

Name: Blessed_Savior
Sig:
The God of my rock; in him will I trust: he is my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower, and my refuge, my saviour;
2 Samuel 22:3

Now they're not likely to kick me out until after I've questioned their beliefs. I am so going to Hell for this.

HIGH-LARIOUS! You're not going to keep that avatar are you? :D

[Corey]

I find it really disturbing that fundamentalist Christians of today seem to think they're a weak minority that's being persecuted and could be slaughtered any day for their beliefs. I was just reading some Pat Robertson quotes and one of them (which I've read before) is about how what's "happening" to christians in the current political climate (Conservative Republican domination of the US Government?) is worse than what Hitler did to the Jews. The only reaction I can offer to that is "what??!!". I can't turn a corner, flip a station on the tv or radio, browse through some websites or forums, without being beaten over the head with a politically conservative fundamentalist christian agenda about how atheists kill babies and have no morals, feminists and reproductive rights activists are trying to kill off the human population by making ever woman into a lesbian or how democrats and other political liberals or anyone who's against war is unAmerican and trying to destroy freedom and democracy.

I can't really speak for people who live in other countries, but the US is (arguably, by Christians) a decidedly Christian country where where Christians claim they're being persecuted and their religion systematically dismantled by the government...meanwhile our president (who invokes the name of god in every one of his speeches) just signed into action the first conditional abortion ban since RvW, pushed through by a majority conservative Republican (find me five conservative Republican representatives who AREN'T funadmentalist Christians and I'll be pretty shocked) legistlature...


I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Corey
I find it really disturbing that fundamentalist Christians of today seem to think they're a weak minority that's being persecuted and could be slaughtered any day for their beliefs. I was just reading some Pat Robertson quotes and one of them (which I've read before) is about how what's "happening" to christians in the current political climate (Conservative Republican domination of the US Government?) is worse than what Hitler did to the Jews. The only reaction I can offer to that is "what??!!". I can't turn a corner, flip a station on the tv or radio, browse through some websites or forums, without being beaten over the head with a politically conservative fundamentalist christian agenda about how atheists kill babies and have no morals, feminists and reproductive rights activists are trying to kill off the human population by making ever woman into a lesbian or how democrats and other political liberals or anyone who's against war is unAmerican and trying to destroy freedom and democracy.

I can't really speak for people who live in other countries, but the US is (arguably, by Christians) a decidedly Christian country where where Christians claim they're being persecuted and their religion systematically dismantled by the government...meanwhile our president (who invokes the name of god in every one of his speeches) just signed into action the first conditional abortion ban since RvW, pushed through by a majority conservative Republican (find me five conservative Republican representatives who AREN'T funadmentalist Christians and I'll be pretty shocked) legistlature...


I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here.

Alas, you aren't atking crazy pills, your observations are pretty accurate. It has always amazed me how the religious fundamentalists calim that religion is so persecuted inthis country, and never seem to notice that the vast majority of this country IS religious and that the religious right specifically is a potent political force. I can only assume that, much like that guy linked to in the original post who concluded that getting kicked from a secular BB for 'witnessing meant that Christians are on the verge of being killed for their faith, that many of them feel that not being allowed to cram their religion down the throats of people who don't want to listen is a form of persecution.

It's ridiculous and stupid.

[Corey]

I think that you also have to take statments like "all I did was try to witness and I got kicked off, they truly hate Jesus" and "they were celebrating this guy "coming out" and I just said that I thought that it didn't seem christian to support that and they banned me" in context. Not just that they're christians, but that they're humans, heh. Notice they don't post links to any of the threads in question, they just paint a picture of...enter meek christian "hey guys, um, I believe in Jesus, he loves you" and the response of "F**k you jesusfreak! All you jesusfreaks should DIE!!!" "oh no, why are you persecuting me?! I just want to show you the love of Jesus".

While there are plenty of atheists and people of different and nonspecific beliefs who CAN be really reactionary and offensive when confronting Christians on forums, I think you can generally assume they may...mm...MAY be exaggerating or ommitting certain things for the sake of supporting their persecution complex. Plus, there are no shortage of reactionary, offensive Christians posting on forums and I don't think it would be a huge leap to guess some of them come from RR.

[Funkenstien]

Crazy pills, indeed. I too have been surprised at the amount if christians saying they are being prosecuted. But i have a rational explaination, if I can use the term rational when speaking of a fundie.

A scene, if you will, that proves the point that we are indeed persecuting the Christians:


Cletus(a fundi beleiver): Kill all Jews! Gays is not right wit the Bible. Any odder religin' cept one of our Savior is the wrong one! Ya'll gunna burn in the hell!!!


"persecutor": Dude, chill out. You really need to stop all this hate talk. Here, let me buy you a drink.

Cletus: STOP TRYING TO COVNERT ME!!! YA'LL ARE SATAN'S LIL HELPERS!

persecutor: Wait a sec... relax, man. just...

Cletus: YER GONNA KILL ME CUZ I'M A CHRISTIAN!!!

See? we are perscecuting them! Society has come to a point where we will actually scorn bigots. They will hide behind the shield of religion, justifing everything with quotes from the Bible, and then think they are being persecuted (just like Jesus) for there beliefs. It's a twisted circle. They believe things that other people don't ,get persecuted, then rationalize by saying "I'm like Jesus. I'm being persecuted for my beliefs. I must be doing His work." then it begins over and over again.

Yes, they are being scroned. And rightly so.

[Corey]

That was my general assessment of it Funkentstein...you just made it short and sweet. Fundies are no stranger to hyperbole. Neither are radical atheists or skeptics, but there's more of a glaring disproportion between claims of persectution and reality of the political/religious climate when it comes to Christianity.

[Flaherty]

Originally posted by Corey
I find it really disturbing that fundamentalist Christians of today seem to think they're a weak minority that's being persecuted and could be slaughtered any day for their beliefs.

That is because deep down they would love to be martyred for their beliefs. They secretly wish they lived in Roman times so they could be tossed into an arena and be run over by a speeding lion.

A persecution complex is a great way to generate unity within a group, regardless of whether there is any real persecution taking place. It's also a great way to boost donations.

[Flaherty]

Rational post (http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1322340#post1322340)

Steve, can you point us to a message board thread where you were hassled?

And I completely disagree with the notion that Christians are persecuted in the USA. Behold:

1. Christians comprise the majority of the population
2. An evangelical Christian is President
3. There are several Christian channels on my cable TV and radio
4. There are at least 100 churches in my town
5. Christian bookstores and Christian titles in secular bookstores are thriving
6. This message board is popular.

Given items 1-6 no objective observer could conclude that Christians are even slightly persecuted in the USA. Of course, Christians (or at least, certain types of Christians) do not always get their way in the public forumn, e.g., the Roy Moore saga. That Christians do not always get their way in such matters should not be interpreted as persecution.

I think it detracts greatly from a Christian's credibility if he claims he is somehow a second-class citizen in the United States because it is so absurd! If you want to sound the alarm that Christians are being persecuted, then do so with regard to Sudanese Chrisitans. Those folks cannot even fathom the religious freedoms you enjoy in the USA. Pardon my frankness, but they would laugh out loud to read your trivial complaint about imaginary persecution.

[TruthSeeker]

Whenever I read a rational post at RR, I wonder if it isn't a JREFer in disguise. :)

[RebeccaBradley]

I notice that one of the few other Voices of Reason on RR was banned from the board last night, on the thread about the Quran being on display in a NY police precinct. He was basically banned for speaking out against the ignorant and venomous attacks on Islam made by other posters, though officially it was because he was "preaching false religion" (=defending Islam). That thread is worth a look.

Who needs soap opera, when we've got RR?

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by RebeccaBradley
I notice that one of the few other Voices of Reason on RR was banned from the board last night, on the thread about the Quran being on display in a NY police precinct. He was basically banned for speaking out against the ignorant and venomous attacks on Islam made by other posters, though officially it was because he was "preaching false religion" (=defending Islam). That thread is worth a look.

Who needs soap opera, when we've got RR?

Can you post the link?

Thanks

[Martin]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker
Whenever I read a rational post at RR, I wonder if it isn't a JREFer in disguise. :) Amusingly enough, the rational post in question was by Fleetwood - who I'm almost certain is one of us.

There are some RR denizens who post here, too. We have RR to thank for Billiefan, for example.

[wayrad]

Originally posted by Yahweh
Well, I'll make another attempt to register at RaptureReady...

RaptureReady didnt approve the name "Yahweh", I'll try something less overt. How about "God Hater"... nah, I think I'll try names "Vendyokus", "Vimana", "Lilith", "Hecate", or any other religion-oriented name (my usernames tend to have a "religion-like" theme to them). Try "Baal" :D

[Martin]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker


Can you post the link?

Thanks http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117539&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

Meh. No comment.

[BroodingSkill]

Following Martin's link, I found the comments made by the admin concerning Isidores banning both comical and disturbing.


They really tolerate no decent there and interpet almost any kind of skeptcism and common sense as an attack. I think I'll just lurk there for a while before making any attempt at jumping into to that.



Oh and good link Martin

[Dragon]

Originally posted by Martin
Amusingly enough, the rational post in question was by Fleetwood - who I'm almost certain is one of us.

... snip ... Hmm - I know at least one avid Fleetwood Mac fan who posts here. The person I'm thinking of has become rather more sceptical since they joined this board ...

Edited for typo

[Flaherty]

Originally posted by Martin
Amusingly enough, the rational post in question was by Fleetwood - who I'm almost certain is one of us.

There are some RR denizens who post here, too. We have RR to thank for Billiefan, for example.

You could be right. It seems Fleetwood's sig is familiar.

[Martin]

Heh. Now that I think about it, didn't you come over at the same time I did? I remember you posting to that silly full Moon thread, and that was one of my first.

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by Yahweh
Well, I'll make another attempt to register at RaptureReady...

RaptureReady didnt approve the name "Yahweh", I'll try something less overt. How about "God Hater"... nah, I think I'll try names "Vendyokus", "Vimana", "Lilith", "Hecate", or any other religion-oriented name (my usernames tend to have a "religion-like" theme to them).

*Evil Laughter*

[billiefan2000]

bump

[LFTKBS]

Good bump, billiefan. Hey - it's been another year without Jesus, huh?

Still waitin'...

[Zep]

I really can't believe how much FEAR those people engender. It seems like their only claim to existence is that someone, ANYONE, persecutes them. And if the persecution isn't real, it's imagined, or even just conjoured up. I would be scared to talk to any of them - they seem to be able to turn "Good morning" into a devil-spawned sin-fueled anti-rapture anti-Christian attack.

Gee, talk about self-flagellation...