Finnish jews and gypsies

[moon1969]

Russian Red Army killed something like 50 finnish jews during the Winter War and Continuation War. I bet people like Max Jakobson and Ben Zyskowicz will never forgive the russians. Also 100 finnish gypsies who served on both wars were murdered by the russian Red Army. :mad: So should Russia pay any compensation to the victims. Or is it that because of those finnish jews and gypsies who served with nazi soldiers? Finnish jews are the best jews in the world and Russia should indeed by compensation to Finland and the relatives of those victims. FDR never declared a war against Finland.

[moon1969]

This is what pisses me of the most. How dare the russians call finnish jews and gypsies who served during WW2 as nazis? :mad: By the way our president Risto Ryti was a freemason and so was general Paavo Talvela. So why do you americans believe the russian propaganda that Finland was somekind of an evil Nazi State during WW2? Since when did a Nazi state have a freemason like Risto Ryti as president? :mad:

[quixotecoyote]

It's quite outrageous, especially once we understand the context!

What if Russia tries something like the Winter War again? Seeing what Russia did to Chechnya and than the events in Georgia. Georgia attacked South Ossetia but Russia invaded areas from Georgia that are no where near South Ossetia. How come Putin supports Iran and Syria? Winter War was not a joke.

Stalin attacked a small nation. The brother of your grandfather died in the Winter War. Your great grandmother was evacuated from Karelia. Yeah the russians caused alot of pain to Finland during the Winter War and yet when WW2 ended Finland had to pay 300 million dollars to Russia. Maybe nothing would have happend if Russia would have not started the Winter War? Well yes dictator Stalin was very evil.

Just look at what russians did to Chechnya. Finland wants no trouble with Russia and just wants to live in peace. But some how I think that many russians are racist against finns and estonians.

Still, they do give some international support. North Korea is supported by China and Russia. It is ashame what China and Russia supports what happens in North Korea.

I mean, Stalin was an anti-semite? Oh really. So why did Jakub Berman, Salomon Morel and Ilya Ehrenburg all work for Stalin and all of them were jewish stalinists. Stalin did not hate jews. Stalin was good friends with Lazar Kaganovich. Soviet Union supported Israel.

It's a tough call. Especially when you consider what happend after that. Red Army raped over 2 million german women. So do jews think that Ilya Ehrenburg was a good guy and those german women deserved it? Read a book called An Eye for an Eye: The Untold Story of Jewish Revenge Against Germans in 1945 written by a jew John Sack. Oh how about Operation Keelhaul and Red Army raping 2 million german women.

Maybe that can help? I suppose it depends. Are you a Karl Marx fan? Do you want the dictatorship of the proletariat? because I personally don"t like people who admire Joseph Stalin, the Soviet Union or any form of communism. Tell you what move to Cuba or North Korea then see if you still are a Karl Marx fan.


It might go back to the fact that it was the Soviet Union who helped Saddam. Saddam was a secular sunni muslim so he really doesn"t sound like somebody who was anti-communist.

Their deceptive nature can be seen in their naval history. Russians said that USS Toledo was there same time with the Kursk. Americans even admited that they spied on the russians but they said that the were not close to the kursk.

Anyway, back to the main thrust of my post:

Stalin always talked about how the zionists were out to get him with the capitalists. Adolf Hitler of course claimed the communism was somekind of a jewish conspiracy. Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were both conspiracy theorists. Jews even got their own land called the Jewish Autonomous Oblast and Joseph Stalin gaved them that and created that.

I have heard some jews argument that Stalin arrested and jailed the wife of Vyacheslav Molotov because she was a jew. How ever there is no proof that Stalin arrested the wife of Vyacheslav Molotov because she was a jew and if Stalin hated jews so much then why nothing happend to his jewish henchman Lazar Kaganovich? Fact is that Joseph Stalin did not hate the jews like Adolf Hitler did. Stalin was not an anti-semite like Adolf Hitler was. Stalin was only paranoid about some so called zionist conspiracy but Stalin did not hate jews as a race.

Joseph Stalin killed a great uncle of a jew? Then how come you don"t hear movies or the media talking about what happend to the and all victims of Joseph Stalin are important no just the jews. Your grandfather lost his brother during the Winter War that Joseph Stalin started and your grandfather lost his home in Impilahti Karelia because of Stalin. So your grandfather is a goy and not as important as the jewish victims of Joseph Stalin?

That's absurd of course. But if I may leave that aside for a moment. Should we really be criticizing Russia?

After all, When war criminals like Henry Kissinger are free in the USA then USA have no right to criticize Russia. Besides Anatoly Chubais learned all the things from the West. USA hypocrisy is amazing. Garry Kasparov is a clown funded by Boris Berezovsky. Anyway look at all the other choices in Russia who could be leaders people like Gennady Zyuganov, Vladimir Zhirinovsky and Eduard Limonov. Putin might be a product of the Yeltsin group but atleast Putin sent that thieve Khodorkovsky to Siberia. Yukos was a stolen company. True Russia is still ruled by the former Yeltsin crew but things are better then they were when Boris Yeltsin was president.

Maybe religion has something to do with it.

Orthodox Church seems to be very strong in Russia and Medvedev and Putin call themselves devoted christians. Religion will never end but let just say that end of religion would be quicker if people in the world would respect separation of church and state. Separation of church and state is the key that would end all religions.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Russian Red Army killed something like 50 finnish jews during the Winter War and Continuation War. I bet people like Max Jakobson and Ben Zyskowicz will never forgive the russians. Also 100 finnish gypsies who served on both wars were murdered by the russian Red Army. :mad: So should Russia pay any compensation to the victims. Or is it that because of those finnish jews and gypsies who served with nazi soldiers? Finnish jews are the best jews in the world and Russia should indeed by compensation to Finland and the relatives of those victims. FDR never declared a war against Finland.

We've been over this before - those Finnish people were Nazis. That's why the Russians killed them.

If anything, Finland should pay compensation to Russia.

[Biscuit]

The first three posts in this thread are some of the most confusing and inane ramblings, especially the 3rd, I have ever read.


What is the point you are trying to make?

The winter war was fought because the Russians wanted to use Finnish ports to prosecute their war against Germany. The Finns wanted nothing to do with this so the Russians attacked. I am certain that many Finnish jews, christians, agnostics and others were killed. What is your point?

[Vic Vega]

So why do you americans believe the russian propaganda that Finland was somekind of an evil Nazi State during WW2?


To be frank with you, I think if you went around and asked 1000 Americans about Finland's role in WWII not one of them would know or care.

Where is this propaganda? Why haven't I seen it?

[Filippo Lippi]

especially the 3rd


I believe QC has pulled together Moon's previous, related comments.


confusing and inane ramblings


I can't find fault with that.

[timhau]

Finnish jews are the best jews in the world

I'd like to see the whole statistics on this. Who has the second- and third-best jews? How much of an advantage do we have on them? Is our #1 spot under threat?

[Skeptic]

Moon1969 seems to think there is some sort of "anti-Finnish propaganda" going around in the USA, unfairly blaming Finland for atrocities it didn't commit.

This simply is not true. Apart from a few history buffs, which are not likely to blame Finland or the Finns for things they haven't done, the vast majority of Americans simply don't know or care much about Finland.

I am completely puzzled as to why in God's name moon1969 thinks there is such "propaganda" going around in the first place.

[Vic Vega]

This simply is not true. Apart from a few history buffs, which are not likely to blame Finland or the Finns for things they haven't done, the vast majority of Americans simply don't know or care much about Finland.

The majority of Americans couldn't even find Finland on a map. To think that they know anything about Finland's role in World War II is just ridiculous.

[Foolmewunz]

QC,
I think we should quote that post in every Moon thread. I'm sorry it's too long to nominate for Pith, but it's hysterical.
Thank you.

[tyr_13]

The majority of Americans couldn't even find Finland on a map. To think that they know anything about Finland's role in World War II is just ridiculous.

What's a Finland? Is that like a town in Norway? Or a tasty salt-fish treat! :p

Seriously though, Finish Jews are the best in the world? You've never been to New York.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'd like to see the whole statistics on this. Who has the second- and third-best jews? How much of an advantage do we have on them? Is our #1 spot under threat?

Is it measured by who is thriftiest? :)

[fuelair]

I believe QC has pulled together Moon's previous, related comments.



I can't find fault with that.

I am 99%+ certain that QC was mocking our moonie. I certainly would be.
Just neglected the old smiley of sarcasm.:rolleyes:

[Filippo Lippi]

I have spoilt his game; I've already appologised to him and Ben, but I'm happy to do it again.

Sorry.

[Biscuit]

My grandparents came to the U.S. from Finland, they were actually laplanders but thats another story. I am very proud of my Finnish heritage and constantly get asked about my last name, Ilka, not once have I experienced anyone with anything bad to say about the Finnish regarding WWII or anything else. There are parts of Michigan where being Finnish can get you a free beer.

Moon, please go back and answer my questions in your other anti-zog thread about Solmon Morel.

[dudalb]

Quite a few Finns in Minnesota too, as one would suspect in "West Scandanavia".
BTW Christine Lahti, the wel known American actress, speaks fluent Finnish and used to have a job broadcasting on a Finnish language radio program in Wisconsin.
And Rene Zellwenger's Mother is from Northren Sweden, and is of Laplander descent. It shows in some of Zellwenger's facial features.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Anyone recall that old tune "Gypsies, Finnish Jews and Thieves"?

[Biscuit]

Anyone recall that old tune "Gypsies, Finnish Jews and Thieves"?

According to my Finnish (NAZI) grandparents there is no such thing as a Finnish jew.







:D

[timhau]

According to my Finnish (NAZI) grandparents there is no such thing as a Finnish jew.


Um... is that why moonie thinks they're the best in the world?

[Biscuit]

Um... is that why moonie thinks they're the best in the world?

I think its because Finnish jews have sisu.

[sackett]

Deciding who has the best Jews is complicated. We need to know power, resistance, and current.


Jewish power is measured in gevalts.

Jewish resistance is measured in oyms.

Jewish current is measured in vats. (As in, "Vat is dis? A system?")




Quit looking at me that way. This is a moon1969 thread!

[Ratas]

As being a Finn I find this constant anti-Finland propaganda of moon1969 offensive. Actually most of people in Finland are living in 2009 these days.

[fuelair]

According to my Finnish (NAZI) grandparents there is no such thing as a Finnish jew.







:D
Any jewish Finns?

[Chaos]

As being a Finn I find this constant anti-Finland propaganda of moon1969 offensive. Actually most of people in Finland are living in 2009 these days.

You´ll have to accept that some people are just plain nuts.

[Travis]

If anything, Finland should pay compensation to Russia.

Finland did. Right after WWII was over. There was a joke about the people being naked on their money because everything had been sent east to the USSR.

The majority of Americans couldn't even find Finland on a map. To think that they know anything about Finland's role in World War II is just ridiculous.

How many times does the "no American anywhere can find any country on any map" canard need to be used? Most Americans know where Finland is.

What's really funny is that most people I know, here in America, think Finland got royally screwed over in WWII. Where Moon gets this idea that American's have brainwashed into thinking Finland was evil is a bit of a mystery.

[Vic Vega]

How many times does the "no American anywhere can find any country on any map" canard need to be used? Most Americans know where Finland is.


You wrote that with such confidence, you must be right... Oh wait. Maybe not. This is from a study of college age Americans:

"When the poll was conducted in 2002, "Americans scored second to last on overall geographic knowledge, trailing Canada, France, Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Japan and Sweden," the report said."


http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/05/02/geog.test/


"Thirty-three percent of respondents couldn't pinpoint Louisiana on a map.

Fewer than three in 10 think it important to know the locations of countries in the news and just 14 percent believe speaking another language is a necessary skill.

Two-thirds didn't know that the earthquake that killed 70,000 people in October 2005 occurred in Pakistan.

Six in 10 could not find Iraq on a map of the Middle East.

Forty-seven percent could not find the Indian subcontinent on a map of Asia.

Seventy-five percent were unable to locate Israel on a map of the Middle East.

Nearly three-quarters incorrectly named English as the most widely spoken native language.

Six in 10 did not know the border between North and South Korea is the most heavily fortified in the world.

Thirty percent thought the most heavily fortified border was between the United States and Mexico."

[NobbyNobbs]

So why do you americans believe the russian propaganda that Finland was somekind of an evil Nazi State during WW2?


That's a pretty broad statement. Got any evidence to back it up?

I'm American, and no expert on WWII, but my impression was that Finland was, at worst, neutral. Didn't they accept, harbor, and hide a bunch of Jewish refugees? There's a guy, very famous, I forget his name, who handed out passports to the Jews. Wasn't he Finnish? Or was he Norwegian? I forget.

Either way, I very much doubt most Americans think Finland was an evil Nazi state.

[Modified]

just 14 percent believe speaking another language is a necessary skill.

That is an odd way to phrase it. Those 14 percent are clearly in the wrong. It's a useful skill, but not a necessary one.

[headscratcher4]

According to my Finnish (NAZI) grandparents there is no such thing as a Finnish jew.







:D

Just a jew in the making?

[Travis]

You wrote that with such confidence, you must be right... Oh wait. Maybe not. This is from a study of college age Americans:

"When the poll was conducted in 2002, "Americans scored second to last on overall geographic knowledge, trailing Canada, France, Germany, Great Britain, Italy, Japan and Sweden," the report said."


http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/05/02/geog.test/


"Thirty-three percent of respondents couldn't pinpoint Louisiana on a map.

Fewer than three in 10 think it important to know the locations of countries in the news and just 14 percent believe speaking another language is a necessary skill.

Two-thirds didn't know that the earthquake that killed 70,000 people in October 2005 occurred in Pakistan.

Six in 10 could not find Iraq on a map of the Middle East.

Forty-seven percent could not find the Indian subcontinent on a map of Asia.

Seventy-five percent were unable to locate Israel on a map of the Middle East.

Nearly three-quarters incorrectly named English as the most widely spoken native language.

Six in 10 did not know the border between North and South Korea is the most heavily fortified in the world.

Thirty percent thought the most heavily fortified border was between the United States and Mexico."

At my public High School in the USA we couldn't graduate unless we were able to demonstrate high competency in geographic knowledge. All my friends know where Finland is so the idea that no American can identify Finland's location fails right there.

[Vic Vega]

At my public High School in the USA we couldn't graduate unless we were able to demonstrate high competency in geographic knowledge. All my friends know where Finland is so the idea that no American can identify Finland's location fails right there.

Well, I'm sure your friends and your High School are very special.

Can you please find the quote which says "no American can identify Finland's location"? That is clearly wrong because I can find Finland on a map so I certainly wouldn't have written that.

I actually wrote: "The majority of Americans couldn't even find Finland on a map."

Now, I must admit a few things. The study was based on 18 - 24 year olds and the article never mentioned Finland. What the article did note, among other things, was this:

"Thirty-three percent of respondents couldn't pinpoint Louisiana on a map.

Six in 10 could not find Iraq on a map of the Middle East.

Forty-seven percent could not find the Indian subcontinent on a map of Asia.

Seventy-five percent were unable to locate Israel on a map of the Middle East."

Now, assuming the above is true and you handed a random sample of Americans a map of the world, do you really think that more than 50% would be able to find Finland? I doubt it.

[Travis]

Well, I'm sure your friends and your High School are very special.

Can you please find the quote which says "no American can identify Finland's location"? That is clearly wrong because I can find Finland on a map so I certainly wouldn't have written that.

I can't because apparently you didn't.:boxedin:

I actually wrote: "The majority of Americans couldn't even find Finland on a map."

Now, I must admit a few things. The study was based on 18 - 24 year olds and the article never mentioned Finland. What the article did note, among other things, was this:

"Thirty-three percent of respondents couldn't pinpoint Louisiana on a map.

Six in 10 could not find Iraq on a map of the Middle East.

Forty-seven percent could not find the Indian subcontinent on a map of Asia.

Seventy-five percent were unable to locate Israel on a map of the Middle East."

Now, assuming the above is true and you handed a random sample of Americans a map of the world, do you really think that more than 50% would be able to find Finland? I doubt it.

Clearly not all American schools put as much emphasis on geography as the ones I went to did. But, never-the-less, some American schools do.

[Chaos]

I can't because apparently you didn't.:boxedin:



Clearly not all American schools put as much emphasis on geography as the ones I went to did. But, never-the-less, some American schools do.

And inhowfar does this refute what he actually wrote?

[lionking]

In the latest news just to hand, Edward I did some very nasty things to the Scots.

[PixyMisa]

But they weren't true Scots, so nobody cared.

[Vic Vega]

Clearly not all American schools put as much emphasis on geography as the ones I went to did. But, never-the-less, some American schools do.

Yeah, ones that most Americans don't go to.

:D

[Travis]

Yeah, ones that most Americans don't go to.

:D

:rolleyes:

[pervert]

The majority of Americans couldn't even find Finland on a map. To think that they know anything about Finland's role in World War II is just ridiculous.

Helsinki, in Sweden

"police squad"

[dudalb]

In the latest news just to hand, Edward I did some very nasty things to the Scots.

He did not like the Jews, either. No joke, he is the king who expelled them from England.

[NobbyNobbs]

According to my Finnish (NAZI) grandparents there is no such thing as a Finnish jew.



:D


Of course not. See, you have practicing Jews, and non-practicing Jews. The non-practicing sort can hardly be called Jewish, let alone Finnish.

Concerning the practicing sort, we know that practice makes perfect. And since there's no such thing as ultimate perfection, they must still be practicing.

And if they are still practicing, they are obviously not Finnished.




:duck:

[Foster Zygote]

Those dead Russians should definitely be dug up and their gold filling pried out.