The Proud Tradition of J. Edgar Hoover Lives On

[subgenius]

Report Finds F.B.I. Bosses Engaged in Lewd Conduct
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Bureau employees have faced accusations of sexual misconduct before, most recently this year, when two supervisors in California were found to have had long-term affairs with an informant accused of being a Chinese double agent.

But the new report was unusual for the number of misconduct cases that it documented.

In one case, a supervisor and another agent were suspended for failing to report that another agent was having an affair with the wife of an organized-crime figure. That failure "potentially had very serious consequences" because of the risky nature of the affair, the report said.

In another case, the report said, an agent leading a seminar on evidence gathering made a graphic joke that was sexually and racially tinged about an airport search of Oprah Winfrey, the talk-show host. The agent received a letter of censure for subjecting his listeners — about half of them women — to "sexual coarseness," the report said.
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In yet another instance, a senior official and other employees went to a "Chili Cook-Off" on F.B.I. grounds dressed in drag as the Spice Girls, the British musical group.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/14/national/14FBI.html?th

[ingoa]

In yet another instance, a senior official and other employees went to a "Chili Cook-Off" on F.B.I. grounds dressed in drag as the Spice Girls, the British musical group.


And the problem with this is what? Humourless civil servants...:con2:

According to www.fbi.gov they employ 27'000 people. Half a dozen affaires d'amour (the ones that can be troublesome) are surprisingly few. And the report states that there has be no cover-up by the bureau. How does this relate to Hoover? Just a curious question from a puzzled European.

[mummymonkey]

Amateurs!

http://www.ibrox.freeserve.co.uk/images/hoover.jpg

[The Don]

Originally posted by subgenius
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In yet another instance, a senior official and other employees went to a "Chili Cook-Off" on F.B.I. grounds dressed in drag as the Spice Girls, the British musical group.
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I was under the impression that at one point in time, cress dressing was almost a pre-requisite to rising in the ranks


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover

[Nikk]

Originally posted by The Don


I was under the impression that at one point in time, cress dressing was almost a pre-requisite to rising in the ranks


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover

Cress dressing was only required when the organisation was in its salad days:D .

[hammegk]

Originally posted by Nikk


Cross dressing was only required when the organisation was in its salad days:D .

Or one is aspiring to the throne. :)

[subgenius]

Originally posted by The Don


I was under the impression that at one point in time, cress dressing was almost a pre-requisite to rising in the ranks


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover

That site had this very interesting link:

http://www.aim.org/publications/aim_report/2003/7.html

[Nyarlathotep]

Not to rain on the parade, here, but the stories portraying Hoover as a crossdresser are highly suspect and come from a single source. A source with questionable motives at that.

He MAY have been a crossdresser, but it isn't the established fact that many people think it is.

http://hnn.us/articles/814.html

[Ladewig]

Not to rain on the parade, here, but the stories portraying Hoover as a crossdresser are highly suspect and come from a single source. A source with questionable motives at that.

Very highly suspect if you read the actual accusation. On the other hand, Jedgar and Clyde Tolson seems to be a strange little story.

[subgenius]

Well well well, now it seems like Republicans are admitting Hoover was a cross-dresser and that its not a bad thing. Aren't they funny that way?

"An obscure Texas House race became slightly more interesting this week when voters learned that one of the candidates, conservative businessman and former Republican Party chairman Sam Walls, makes a sweet transvestite.
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Walls vows to stay in the race and has received at least one "you go girl!" from a local politician. "I don't have a problem with cross-dressing," said County GOP Treasurer Roy Giddens, Jr. "There are lots of them. People think J. Edgar Hoover was one of the greatest Americans that ever lived. He was a cross-dresser."

http://www.drudge.com/weblog/004050.html

[Luke T.]

I think it is a very serious matter when an FBI man is dating not only a married woman, but a woman who is married to a mob figure. I also think it is an even more serious matter when an FBI man is sleeping with a suspected foreign agent, especially if the FBI man knows the person is under suspicion as a foreign agent. That's damn near treason.

I read the book about Hoover being a homosexual. It was also the same book that said he was really a black man trying to pass. I took it all with a grain of salt.

[Aoidoi]

Originally posted by ingoa


And the problem with this is what? Humourless civil servants...:con2:
Er... some of our senior management dressed as the Spice Girls for some event, and they even showed us a clip. I'm not quite sure what's wrong with it, other than being disturbing on an aesthetic level.

Compared with shacking up with a mobsters wife it seems pretty tame :D

[pgwenthold]

Originally posted by Aoidoi
Er... some of our senior management dressed as the Spice Girls for some event, and they even showed us a clip. I'm not quite sure what's wrong with it, other than being disturbing on an aesthetic level.

Compared with shacking up with a mobsters wife it seems pretty tame :D

An actual conversation between me and an old co-worker:

ME:"The other night I dreamt I was a Spice Girl."
HIM:"Which one?"
ME:"Well, Posh, of course."

[aerosolben]

Originally posted by Luke T.
I think it is a very serious matter when an FBI man is dating not only a married woman, but a woman who is married to a mob figure. I also think it is an even more serious matter when an FBI man is sleeping with a suspected foreign agent, especially if the FBI man knows the person is under suspicion as a foreign agent. That's damn near treason.
Bah. James Bond does it all the time.

[subgenius]

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Walls' wife, Kay, who appears smiling in one of the photos of her cross-dressing husband, was appointed by Gov. George W. Bush in 1999 to the North Texas Tollway Authority. She gave Bush's presidential campaign $1,000 that year, and Sam Walls gave the Republican National Committee $2,000 a year later.

His supporters say they knew nothing of Walls' cross-dressing and accept his explanation that it happened "long ago." What "long ago" means is not clear.

The photos came from a mobile home, registered in Walls' name, that was repossessed in 2002.

And Walls campaign consultant Craig Murphy said he could not confirm nor deny that Sam Walls is the "Samantha Walls" who was described as treasurer -- from Texas -- of the Alpha Omega Society in a June 2000 newsletter.

The Alpha Omega Society's Internet site says the group is "committed to the cause of the heterosexual crossdresser, family and friends."
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http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/8383705.htm?1c

[subgenius]

While much has been made about Hoover's secret files on those around him, Hack says he learned Hoover had some secret files for his own personal use — files that included nude photographs.

Hack: “He had nudes of many people. There was an obscene file that he kept himself.”

Hockenberry: “So you think he was interested in pornography?”

Hack: “Oh, he was definitely interested in pornography. He would say from an intellectual standpoint of course to know what was out there so he could fight it.”

And whose nude pictures does Hack say Hoover had? Well, Marilyn Monroe, perhaps no big surprise, but there was also another.

Hack: “Eleanor Roosevelt, for one.”

Hockenberry: “Naked pictures of Eleanor Roosevelt? My, my. Forgive my interest in this, how does one go about getting and why would one even want naked pictures of Eleanor Roosevelt?”

Hack: “W.C. Fields happened to have a set of pictures, what was purported to be Eleanor Roosevelt. I have not seen these myself because they were subsequently destroyed. But Hoover had heard the story and asked W.C. Fields to see the pictures and W.C. Fields sent him with the pictures. And there in lies the power and play of the man.”

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4638275/

[Frank Newgent]

Originally posted by subgenius

Well well well, now it seems like Republicans are admitting Hoover was a cross-dresser and that its not a bad thing. Aren't they funny that way?

"An obscure Texas House race became slightly more interesting this week when voters learned that one of the candidates, conservative businessman and former Republican Party chairman Sam Walls, makes a sweet transvestite.
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Walls vows to stay in the race and has received at least one "you go girl!" from a local politician. "I don't have a problem with cross-dressing," said County GOP Treasurer Roy Giddens, Jr. "There are lots of them. People think J. Edgar Hoover was one of the greatest Americans that ever lived. He was a cross-dresser."

http://www.drudge.com/weblog/004050.html
Ain´t Texas politics great? (http://www.queerday.com/archives/003692.html)

[subgenius]

Texas Gov. Rick Perry denies wife caught him with another man

Perry — who dated his wife for 16 years before marrying her —last year defended Texas’ sodomy law that targeted gays, calling the measure “appropriate.” The U.S. Supreme Court overturned the law last June.
http://www.dallasvoice.com/articles/dispArticle.cfm?Article_ID=4268

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[subgenius]

Candidate Pictured in Dresses Loses Race

HOUSTON (AP) - A candidate who stuck to his campaign despite photos showing him wearing dresses has lost his bid for office in Texas runoff elections that also picked GOP candidates for five congressional elections.

Sam Walls, 64, who sought a seat in the Texas House, had said he would not give in to "blackmail" from whoever circulated the photos, saying they tried to use "very old, personal information" to force him out of the race.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040414/D81UKE7G0.html

Very old information? He was listed as treasurer of a cross-dressers club in 2001.