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SnuffSnuff
17th February 2009, 01:49 PM
Welcome to the Assertive Atheist Moments Home Page. This web site is dedicated to creating and sharing Moments in which an Epistemology of Atheism shines through - maybe for just a short moment - maybe for longer moments. The length of the moment is totally dependant upon the personal Epistemology of the beholder.
http://www.assertiveatheistmoments.com/
There may be times when you like what you see here. There may be times when you don't like what you see here. By all means, Contact us and let us know what you think and how you feel.
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I don't know what to say about this website, except that I think it's a humor page than anything overly serious. If the Handicapped sticker gag and speeding have anything to go by.
It also has a page on Theist Propagandists that I found...amusing. (Here:http://www.assertiveatheistmoments.com/WebTheists.html)
But what do you think?
~Snuffie
Silentknight
17th February 2009, 04:31 PM
The only things I can figure out from looking over the site are that it's relatively new and it's relatively simplistic. They haven't come up with any innovative new arguments that haven't already been said. I suppose whoever made this hasn't had the time to add much content yet, but it doesn't make it any easier to figure out what their views or goals are.
I personally tend to recoil whenever I hear an organization using the "Atheist" label. They don't speak for me, let alone all atheists, and I think it's rather silly to organize around a term describing what amounts to a very basic distinction. Atheists are people who disbelieve in worshiped things called gods. The term doesn't say anything about their social or political outlook, nor about their capacity to reason.
To me, the important thing is not what you believe, but how you believe.
Skeptic Ginger
17th February 2009, 04:40 PM
Sparse new blog. It may or may not take off. People have things they want to say. This is one of those people.
SnuffSnuff
17th February 2009, 04:42 PM
The only things I can figure out from looking over the site are that it's relatively new and it's relatively simplistic. They haven't come up with any innovative new arguments that haven't already been said. I suppose whoever made this hasn't had the time to add much content yet, but it doesn't make it any easier to figure out what their views or goals are.
I personally tend to recoil whenever I hear an organization using the "Atheist" label. They don't speak for me, let alone all atheists, and I think it's rather silly to organize around a term describing what amounts to a very basic distinction. Atheists are people who disbelieve in worshiped things called gods. The term doesn't say anything about their social or political outlook, nor about their capacity to reason.
To me, the important thing is not what you believe, but how you believe.
I understand that the website is new and its very vague on the Assertive part, although the only 'assertive' part I found thus far are printing out handicapped stickers with font on how much of a dork you are and putting them on cars that are already parked on handicapped places.
Actually, if the term 'atheist' wasn't on the website itself, I never would have known this was even an atheist 'movement'.
~Snuffie
The Atheist
17th February 2009, 04:50 PM
But what do you think?
~Snuffie
I think it's got fail writ large all over it, in pink letters.
Poorly-designed and wrong:
The Epistemology of Atheism begins with the concept of Being Without Theism
Uh, no it doesn't.
Epistemology doesn't enter into it and the subject starts and ends without theism.
Miss_Kitt
17th February 2009, 04:58 PM
Not to mention that there isn't an epistemology of atheism, per se. Epistemology is the branch of philosophy that deals with how we determine what is, and is not, true; how we acquire knowledge, test ideas, etc. It is necessarily mute on the subject of gods.
Holding that there is an objective reality that the sense detects, and that sensory information coupled with logic is the pathway to knowledge, is an epistemological statement. Saying that "testing against Reality is the way to validate an idea" is an epistemological statement. Saying, "There is no god," is not an epistemological statement. It might result from application of one's epistemology, but it is not an epistemological statement.
I think what the site's authors may intend is that there is a fundamental breakdown in epistemology between revelation/faith, which virtually all theist religions hold to be true and valid, and sensory input processed by reason, which is the scientific perspective. But that doesn't necessarily make atheism an epistemological necessity. Atheism is a conclusion that is reached using a particular thinking process; it's not a definition of a thinking method.
Just my viewpoint, MK
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