Questioninggeller
18th February 2009, 03:53 PM
Earlier this month it was announced (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=134574) that Crystal Cathedral/Robert Schuller's ministry was in trouble. Now today there is really sad news that a man took his life inside the Crystal Cathedral:
Man fatally shoots himself in front of cross at televangelist Schuller's Crystal Cathedral
February 18, 2009
kdrv.com (http://kdrv.com/news/national/story-90896)
By GILLIAN FLACCUS, Associated Press Writer
GARDEN GROVE, Calif.
A man shot and killed himself in front of a cross inside televangelist Robert H. Schuller's Crystal Cathedral on Wednesday, police and church officials said. The man handed a note and his driver's license to two ushers, walked to the cross and then shot himself in the head as he appeared to be praying, Senior Pastor Juan Carlos Ortiz said.
The man's identity was not released, but police Lt. Dennis Ellsworth said the man was in his 40s. Church spokesman Mike Nason said there was no record of the man at the cathedral.
Betty Spicer, a volunteer usher at the famous sanctuary, said she greeted the man when he entered. She said he handed her a folded note with two cards inside as the man told her: "You may want this."
Spicer said he then walked to the foot of the cross. She and another volunteer said they thought the man was praying when she heard a pop.
A tourist, one in a group of seven or eight visitors from Canada, told her the man had shot himself.
...
There have been two other shootings at the church in recent years.
In December 2004, Crystal Cathedral Orchestra conductor Johnnie Carl, 57, killed himself at the complex after a standoff that began when he opened fire in offices before a Christmas pageant. He had been hospitalized for severe depression.
Also that year, a man was wounded by a plainclothes police officer in the cathedral parking lot. Authorities said the man was meeting his mother, but the officer didn't know they were related and intervened in what he thought was an argument.
...
Source (http://kdrv.com/news/national/story-90896)
Man fatally shoots himself in front of cross at televangelist Schuller's Crystal Cathedral
February 18, 2009
kdrv.com (http://kdrv.com/news/national/story-90896)
By GILLIAN FLACCUS, Associated Press Writer
GARDEN GROVE, Calif.
A man shot and killed himself in front of a cross inside televangelist Robert H. Schuller's Crystal Cathedral on Wednesday, police and church officials said. The man handed a note and his driver's license to two ushers, walked to the cross and then shot himself in the head as he appeared to be praying, Senior Pastor Juan Carlos Ortiz said.
The man's identity was not released, but police Lt. Dennis Ellsworth said the man was in his 40s. Church spokesman Mike Nason said there was no record of the man at the cathedral.
Betty Spicer, a volunteer usher at the famous sanctuary, said she greeted the man when he entered. She said he handed her a folded note with two cards inside as the man told her: "You may want this."
Spicer said he then walked to the foot of the cross. She and another volunteer said they thought the man was praying when she heard a pop.
A tourist, one in a group of seven or eight visitors from Canada, told her the man had shot himself.
...
There have been two other shootings at the church in recent years.
In December 2004, Crystal Cathedral Orchestra conductor Johnnie Carl, 57, killed himself at the complex after a standoff that began when he opened fire in offices before a Christmas pageant. He had been hospitalized for severe depression.
Also that year, a man was wounded by a plainclothes police officer in the cathedral parking lot. Authorities said the man was meeting his mother, but the officer didn't know they were related and intervened in what he thought was an argument.
...
Source (http://kdrv.com/news/national/story-90896)