What political / quasi-political slogans and mantras do you hate.

[Tmy]

I really cant stand: "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." Is just sounds so lame.

[American]

Anything that fits on a poster or a bumper sticker is guarenteed to be grade-A bulls--t. It usually reflects the depth of the person displaying it. Three words is about all they can handle to describe something... (and often they screw that up as well).

[Nyarlathotep]

I can't believe I am saying this, but American hit it right on the nose.

[LuxFerum]

Love it or leave it. :mad:

[geni]

Third way
"new"

[Chaos]

"compassionate"

or, as it is called here,

"socially just"

[Mike B.]

"I knew John F. Kennedy and you are NO John F. Kennedy."

Now it is: "I knew (insert namex) and you are no (namex)."

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Mike B.
"I knew John F. Kennedy and you are NO John F. Kennedy."

Now it is: "I knew (insert namex) and you are no (namex)."

I Knew Mike B. and you're no Mike B.

[TillEulenspiegel]

"Liberal", which is used as a broad damning epithet that dismisses ( according to the 2000 election and recent polls ) 1/2 of the population of the United States.

"Legislating from the bench " which is damned from both sides depending on which prevailing view is in lock step with thier own, with little or no understanding of the law..

"The American people"..... , A) Want to know , B) demand that... C) have the right to...
These people don't get it . They work for US , do You consider Yourself to be a retard that you cannot understand the bizantien crap that our " representatives" try to bury bad policy with? I didn't think so
There's more , does anyone really care. No question mark.

[Rocky]

“It’s a Tax Break for the rich”

Of course it is; there is no tax for being poor. Since the rich pay every tax, any break will help them and since they pay more, it will help them more. Many poor only pay sales tax but you never hear politicians offering to lower that tax.

You can't lower taxes for the poor without helping out the rich.

[no one in particular]

As seen on a VW in Ithaca;

“The environmental policies of Bush and Gore make me wanna Ralph.”

[Ralph]

Originally posted by no one in particular
As seen on a VW in Ithaca;

“The environmental policies of Bush and Gore make me wanna Ralph.”

Hey.....I resemble that remark!!!!!..................

[BTox]

Originally posted by TillEulenspiegel
"Liberal", which is used as a broad damning epithet that dismisses ( according to the 2000 election and recent polls ) 1/2 of the population of the United States.


"Conservative", which is used as a broad damning epithet that dismisses (according to the 2000 election and recent polls ) 1/2 of the population of the United States.

Of course these are both hogwash as the majority of Americans are moderates, neither liberal or conservative.

[kerfer]

Almost anything reeking of being PC at the expense of being accurate and/or correct.

Examples:

African American instead of many other terms which more accurately describe negroid people--.
Asian instead of many other terms that more accurately descrive Mongoloid people.

There is an ad running right now for some medicine or another, and amongst the many disclaimers, they say something like "there may be a higher risk of heart disease among African Americans who use (name of medicine)." This always makes me chuckle...it's a pretty stupid thing to say, as I'm pretty sure that they don't mean to say what they do say...but then again, that's what PC is all about.

[QuarkChild]

"My country, right or wrong."
And:
"Those protestors don't realize that the government they're protesting GAVE them the right to protest! How dare they!"

The latter really annoys me. So because we're free to protest, we shouldn't exercise that right? Do you really think the founding fathers granted the American people a Bill of Rights with the intention that they not use those rights?

Weird.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Tmy
I really cant stand: "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." Is just sounds so lame.
That is the stupidest. Everyone knows it was Lillith, Adam, Yedid, Eve, and Pinchme.

Lillith and Adam from the dust of the ground. Female and male, created He (or possibly She) them. Lillith wouldn't have Adam. That didn't work. Sorry.

Yedid was Adam's homo lover, but that doesn't perpetuate the human race, however sweet the relationship may be.

Adam and Eve, Eve from Adam's rib. At last a workable solution.

Poor old Pinchme, the odd man out. He still exists today, poor fellow! :p :D

[Ladewig]

"God Bless America" The hubris of asking God to, "bestow your blessing on all land and people north of the Rio Grande and south of the 54th parallel." I'm in good company when I get irked by the phrase; I know an Episcopal priest who hates it, too.


"He got off on a technicality." No, he got off because the police or prosecutors did not follow the laws laid out in the Constitution. The amendments may be many things, but they are not technicalities.

[patoco12]

Originally posted by kerfer
Almost anything reeking of being PC at the expense of being accurate and/or correct.

Examples:

African American instead of many other terms which more accurately describe negroid people--.
Asian instead of many other terms that more accurately descrive Mongoloid people.

There is an ad running right now for some medicine or another, and amongst the many disclaimers, they say something like "there may be a higher risk of heart disease among African Americans who use (name of medicine)." This always makes me chuckle...it's a pretty stupid thing to say, as I'm pretty sure that they don't mean to say what they do say...but then again, that's what PC is all about.

I agree, but you forgot the worst one of all: "Native Americans". I don't consider myself one, but I have a whole side of my family who is. And they prefer "American Indian". It is more accurate, and, as they point out, they word American is first. Some American Indians are offended by the term Native American.

[peptoabysmal]

Right now, the top of my list is John F. Kerry, trying a subliminal approach to being compared to John F. Kennedy.

And of course; the ever popular "McCarthyism" and "Nazi-ism".

[aerocontrols]

"What's happened to innocent until proven guilty" when used by one person to tell another that the opinion "I think he's guilty" is out of bounds.

Courts are bound by the presumption of innocence. People are not. I can think someone guilty even before a jury decides he is. I can think someone guilty (or innocent) even if a jury finds differently.

MattJ

[demon]

"You are an anti-Semite"

The last refuge of rascist scoundrels and liars.

[T'ai Chi]

Originally posted by American
Anything that fits on a poster or a bumper sticker is guarenteed to be grade-A bulls--t. It usually reflects the depth of the person displaying it. Three words is about all they can handle to describe something... (and often they screw that up as well).

Including atheist and skeptic bumper stickers, or are those OK?

[Frank Newgent]

Originally posted by American
Anything that fits on a poster or a bumper sticker is guarenteed to be grade-A bulls--t. It usually reflects the depth of the person displaying it.

http://www.4president.org/bushcheney2000.gif

[AmateurScientist]

"If you're not part of the solution, then you're part of the problem."

--Stupid 60s-70s hippie call to action which was designed to make everyone who is not a radical political activity to feel guilty.

I hate guilt mongering.

AS

[DavidJames]

People using PC to describe any actions they don't like.

[American]

Originally posted by Frank Newgent

http://www.4president.org/bushcheney2000.gif


That's not a slogan, dickface.

[American]

Originally posted by T'ai Chi


Including atheist and skeptic bumper stickers, or are those OK?


Well. No.

[Dancing David]

ones I don't like:


It's not a choice it's a baby.

In case of rapture this vehicle will be driverless.

The [blah blah] that made this country great.

Every society that has tolerated homosexuality has fallen.


Ones I do like:

God was my co-pilot but we ate him when we crashed in the Andes.

Nuke a gay whale for Jesus.

This is your brain, this is brain on drugs, this is brain on drugs with a side of bacon.

It will be a beutiful day when education gets all the money it needs and they have to have a bake sale to buy a bomber.

[Dancing David]

Originally posted by American



That's not a slogan, dickface.


Now theres a slogan!


You could set it to music too.

That's not a slogan dickface, do as I say or I'll punch your face.
Bush Cheney 4 president dot org is not a complete sentence, so stop sitting on the fence.
And damnit support the Iraqi War , because freedom is worth fighting for.
Dickface, dickface, dickface, he is the opponent in this race, if he had eyes, mouth ,nose on his face,
Then he would be something worth voting for

(I think that it could be set to the chorus from 'Streets of Heaven')

[pgwenthold]

Originally posted by kerfer
Almost anything reeking of being PC at the expense of being accurate and/or correct.


Calling something "PC" just because they don't like it

[Skeptic]

"He got off on a technicality." No, he got off because the police or prosecutors did not follow the laws laid out in the Constitution. The amendments may be many things, but they are not technicalities.

Ever noticed nobody gets CONVICTED "on a technicality"?

[Skeptic]

Every society that has tolerated homosexuality has fallen.

Do they mean Greece and Rome? As opposed to what... those other civlizations from 2500 years ago who are still around?

It will be a beutiful day when education gets all the money it needs and they have to have a bake sale to buy a bomber.

(sigh) Yeah... until somebody decides to invade.

The best response is still George Washington's: vetoing a law that would limit the American army to 3000 men, he said that he would sign it, as long as the law also forbade any army to invade America with more than 2000 men.

[Chaos]

Originally posted by Skeptic

(sigh) Yeah... until somebody decides to invade.

The best response is still George Washington's: vetoing a law that would limit the American army to 3000 men, he said that he would sign it, as long as the law also forbade any army to invade America with more than 2000 men.

When was the last time someone invaded the US? As far as I can recall, you have always used your bombers to destroy some other country, far away from the US.

[plindboe]

Some slogans DD mentioned really made me cringe: "It's not a choice it's a baby" & "Every society that has tolerated homosexuality has fallen". These are extraordinarily bad.

Also the phrase "Coalition of the willing" gets to me. There's so much self-righteousness tugged into those words that I feel like vomiting.

[LFTKBS]

Originally posted by Chaos


When was the last time someone invaded the US? As far as I can recall, you have always used your bombers to destroy some other country, far away from the US.

Well, I don't know if it counts as a real invasion to you, Chaos, but Japan's 23 December 1941 invasion of Wake Island counts for me. Over one hundred and seventy killed or wounded, many taken prisoner.

[aerocontrols]

Originally posted by LFTKBS


Well, I don't know if it counts as a real invasion to you, Chaos, but Japan's 23 December 1941 invasion of Wake Island counts for me. Over one hundred and seventy killed or wounded, many taken prisoner.

I would count the French invasion of Mexico as a good example for why Washington's decision was the correct one.

[Ladewig]

Every society that has tolerated homosexuality has fallen.


Great Britain and The Netherlands have fallen!?
Damn that liberal media for covering it up just to support their godless agenda.

[Monketey Ghost]

Originally posted by LFTKBS


Well, I don't know if it counts as a real invasion to you, Chaos, but Japan's 23 December 1941 invasion of Wake Island counts for me. Over one hundred and seventy killed or wounded, many taken prisoner.

When was Wake Island declared a State?

I can only guess you're expanding the definition of the United States of America to mean all States, territories, places where we have bases and troops...

[Ladewig]

When was Wake Island declared a State?

I can only guess you're expanding the definition of the United States of America to mean all States, territories, places where we have bases and troops...

It is a common definition.

FDR used it: "Yesterday, December 7, 1941—a date which will live in infamy—the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by the naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan."


Hawaii becomes U.S. territory - 1900
Hawaii becomes U.S. state - 1959

[billydkid]

Originally posted by no one in particular
As seen on a VW in Ithaca;

“The environmental policies of Bush and Gore make me wanna Ralph.”

Hey, no one, we're practically neighbors. I live near Norwich. Go through Ithaca all the time to go fishing on Cayuga.

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by Ladewig
"God Bless America" The hubris of asking God to, "bestow your blessing on all land and people north of the Rio Grande and south of the 54th parallel." I'm in good company when I get irked by the phrase; I know an Episcopal priest who hates it, too.

Though I'm an atheist, I kinda like "God bless America". If there is a God, it's perfectly OK to ask Him to bless you as a group rather than just individually.

God bless us all! And if He doesn't exist (as is the case) tough s**t.

Nevertheless, God bless America. So there! :p

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by no one in particular
As seen on a VW in Ithaca;

“The environmental policies of Bush and Gore make me wanna Ralph.”

"Ithaca is the city of evil"

That's not a comment on what you said, it's an answer to the question in the first post.

Thank you for reminding me about Ithaca.

For you non-USA folks, that's where Cornell University is located. A major (and leftist) University. High above Cayuga's waters and all that.

New York State has Ithaca, Attica, and Utica.

[TillEulenspiegel]

Originally posted by BTox


"Conservative", which is used as a broad damning epithet that dismisses (according to the 2000 election and recent polls ) 1/2 of the population of the United States.

Of course these are both hogwash as the majority of Americans are moderates, neither liberal or conservative.

Ya But I don't think that's its quite the same with conservitivs you get a descriptive analysis like "right war mongers", "Bible thumpers" "reactionary ----- <---- insert group here". So as You see its possible to classify a whole political stripe with one word , where the other has select groups of condenmation.

As an aside: I don't think people in this country realize how truely divided we are , altho the lines seem to reside at the %50 mark the positions have become solidified and both sides seem incapable of compromise and I fear that the government founded on the principle of accomidation has become a forum for acrimony and blame, rather then governence.

[Skeptic]

When was the last time someone invaded the US?

1941, Pearl Harbor.

[Gem]

When was the last time someone invaded the US?

1941, Pearl Harbor.

Attacked, not invaded.

And besides, everyone seems to forget the most painfully obvious. 1812? (The British HAD to go on land to burn the capital, no?)

Gem

P.S.: The Japanese did invade the Aleutian islands, but it was mostly symbolic than anything else.

[Frank Newgent]

Originally posted by American

That's not a slogan, dickface.

Stay on message (http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushcheneyvote.htm)

[kerfer]

Originally posted by Gem


Attacked, not invaded.


(caution...there may be some inadvertant sarcasm in certain places thoughout this post...they may pop up at inadvertant places...my apologies...but I wasn't going to let this irresponsible post just sit, un....um....responded to.)

Definitions, and differentiations(sp?) of terms, please.

From what I understand, a warship is an entity and extension of the land whose flag she flies, like it or not...so an attack upon a British ship (even if it's in the Indian Ocean), by definition, an attack on Britain herself. Whether you agree or disagree with that is a separate question.

If that's agreed upon (and it may not be), then what's the difference between an attack on the US fleet anchored at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, (even though at that point in time Hawaii..aaah...Hawai, the beautiful pearl of the pacific...dang it, I digress..was not yet a state, and therefore a soverign entity), and an attack on Kansas City? (which would be an invasion...no?)
The attack was clearly an attack on the US fleet...not on the soverign entity of Hawaii. Attack...Invasion...what's the difference?

Just askin'.

FWIW: I seem to m'member an attack on the U.S. fairly recently. Seems a bunch of religious fanatic mo****fu*** a**h*** hijacked some airplanes, and used them as intelligently guided bombs against our largest city, killing thousands of people, and launching a major miltary action. Perhaps you've seen it in the news. It made the headlines here, and in most places around the world. Perhaps you've been on vacation in the Aegean for the last several years trying to better your personal best at skipping all those perfect stones into the sea.

gosh.

It's cool to be you.

You rock. (pun not intended)

If you did happen to catch thios little nugget in the news, does this qualify as an invasion? If so, then our work here is done.


So........

To say that the U.S. hasn't been invaded/attacked recently is a position I'd like to see you defend. I'm not saying yet the you're wrong...but I'd like hear your argument.

Oh..

Please tell up where you are from.
I'm from California. USA.

It doesn't necessarily validate or invalidate your argument, but it seems relevant here...doncha think?

So...

In answer to your question...

the last time that the US was invaded, IMO, was 11 Sep 2001, and the last time before that was 07 Dec, 1941.

Comments?

Bueller?

[Chaos]

I define "invasion" as:

Military ground forces (with our without support by air or sea forces) entering the land territory of a another nation with hostile intent.

So neither 9/11 nor Pearl Harbour fit that description. 9/11 was a terrorist attack, Pearl Harbour was an air raid.

[a_unique_person]

2nd Amendment.

[Mike B.]

Originally posted by Chaos


When was the last time someone invaded the US? As far as I can recall, you have always used your bombers to destroy some other country, far away from the US.

Umm...

Did airplanes exist back then when George Washington was President?
;)

BTW,
The US military was always very small in relation to the rest of the world up until the 1950s-1960s.

(I am not counting wars here, I mean peacetime.)

[Mike B.]

Originally posted by Gem


Attacked, not invaded.

And besides, everyone seems to forget the most painfully obvious. 1812? (The British HAD to go on land to burn the capital, no?)

Gem

P.S.: The Japanese did invade the Aleutian islands, but it was mostly symbolic than anything else.

Pancho Villia invaded the US from Mexico in 1916.
:)

[Chaos]

My point is that the USA would need much less defense spending if they limited their military to purely defensive measures, instead of chasing non-existent WMD´s on the other side of the world.

[corplinx]

liberal media
tax cuts for the rich (when referring to an across the board cut)
draconian spending cuts (when referring to a reduced increase)
selected president
florida coup

[Gem]

(caution...there may be some inadvertant sarcasm in certain places thoughout this post...they may pop up at inadvertant places...my apologies...but I wasn't going to let this irresponsible post just sit, un....um....responded to.)

Definitions, and differentiations(sp?) of terms, please.

From what I understand, a warship is an entity and extension of the land whose flag she flies, like it or not...so an attack upon a British ship (even if it's in the Indian Ocean), by definition, an attack on Britain herself. Whether you agree or disagree with that is a separate question.

Note: this is an attack, as you said so yourself.

If that's agreed upon (and it may not be), then what's the difference between an attack on the US fleet anchored at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, (even though at that point in time Hawaii..aaah...Hawai, the beautiful pearl of the pacific...dang it, I digress..was not yet a state, and therefore a soverign entity), and an attack on Kansas City? (which would be an invasion...no?)
The attack was clearly an attack on the US fleet...not on the soverign entity of Hawaii. Attack...Invasion...what's the difference?

Just askin'.

Big difference. Let's take kansas city. If the city was attacked, you'd have death, damage, wounded, missing, etc. It ends here. But an Invasion would not only attack the city, it would also occupy the city and it's surrounding territory. That's the difference.

FWIW: I seem to m'member an attack on the U.S. fairly recently. Seems a bunch of religious fanatic mo****fu*** a**h*** hijacked some airplanes, and used them as intelligently guided bombs against our largest city, killing thousands of people, and launching a major miltary action. Perhaps you've seen it in the news. It made the headlines here, and in most places around the world. Perhaps you've been on vacation in the Aegean for the last several years trying to better your personal best at skipping all those perfect stones into the sea.

gosh.

It's cool to be you.

You rock. (pun not intended)

I'm not sure what you're talking about here after 9/11. 9/11 was an attack.

If you did happen to catch thios little nugget in the news, does this qualify as an invasion? If so, then our work here is done.

What are you talking about?
So........

To say that the U.S. hasn't been invaded/attacked recently is a position I'd like to see you defend. I'm not saying yet the you're wrong...but I'd like hear your argument.

Oh..

I haven't said so! I only said that the US wasn't invaded by anyone in the 20th century. Of course it was attacked throughout it's entire history.

Please tell up where you are from.
I'm from California. USA.

Not important.

It doesn't necessarily validate or invalidate your argument, but it seems relevant here...doncha think?

So...

In answer to your question...

the last time that the US was invaded, IMO, was 11 Sep 2001, and the last time before that was 07 Dec, 1941.

Tell me how do you define "invasion."

Comments?

Bueller?

All I was saying "Attacked" from a purely academic level. I'm just saying there is a difference between Attacked and Invaded.

Pearl Harbor was an attack.

9/11 was an attack.

Does it lessen their scope? Not at all! The US was still right to declare war on Japan. The US did the right thing by invading Afganistan.

All I'm saying is that no army in the 20th century invaded the United States Of America (Unless we go into the japanese invasion of the Aleutian Islands). They could only attack/raid the US, which is vastly different from an invasion.

Gem

[kerfer]

Originally posted by Gem


All I was saying "Attacked" from a purely academic level. I'm just saying there is a difference between Attacked and Invaded.

Pearl Harbor was an attack.

9/11 was an attack.

Does it lessen their scope? Not at all! The US was still right to declare war on Japan. The US did the right thing by invading Afganistan.

Okay.

I apologize. I was wrong.

That's precisely what I inferred that you were trying to do--to imply that somehow, these events were somehow less important to U.S. history (and probably world history) than I see them.

I misunderstood what you were trying to say.

You claim here not to be doing that, so, in the words of Emily LaTella, "Never mind."

[Judith]

"Bring 'em on."
:rolleyes:

[Gem]

Okay.

I apologize. I was wrong.

That's precisely what I inferred that you were trying to do--to imply that somehow, these events were somehow less important to U.S. history (and probably world history) than I see them.

I misunderstood what you were trying to say.

You claim here not to be doing that, so, in the words of Emily LaTella, "Never mind."

In my own words: "Understable."

As for the orginial question of this thread, I think that those enviromentalist slogans on old vans that pollute a lot seem hyprocritical.

Gem

[Skeptic]

When was Wake Island declared a State?

I can only guess you're expanding the definition of the United States of America to mean all States, territories, places where we have bases and troops...

Wake Island is federal American territory. It does not belong to any other nation. Of course, by your definition, Pearl Harbor wasn't an attack on America because Hawaii wasn't a state until 1959.

[Leif Roar]

"The war on [whatever]."

This one always bugs me as it brings the completely wrong connotations with it - particularly those of a clearly defined enemy, a limited duration and of winning or losing. In all the cases where I've seen it used as a slogan the term "struggle against" or "fight against" would be much more descriptive, and wouldn't lead to the same jingoistic and oversimplified language when talking about it.

[Frank Newgent]

EARTH FIRST We'll mine the other planets later

[Tmy]

"Support our Troops." The slogan is noble enough but its used to imply that you should shut the F up and not question our leaders.


hawaii wasnt a state at the time,it was a territory. Technically our forgien embassys are US territories right? So the last embassy attack could technically be an invasion.

[Thanz]

I have two pet slogan peeves that I have mentioned before (and in fact inspired the quote in my sig).

1. Calling every political scandal "something-gate". Whitewater-gate. Iran- Contra gate. As if "gate" were some sort of suffix meaning political scandal instead of just part of the name of the Watergate Hotel.

2. Calling addictions "something-aholic". Workaholic. Surfaholic. As if alcoholics were addicted to alc.

On another note, "God Bless America" The hubris of asking God to, "bestow your blessing on all land and people north of the Rio Grande and south of the 54th parallel." I'm in good company when I get irked by the phrase; I know an Episcopal priest who hates it, too.

Are those the actual lyrics? You guys are including a whole lot of Canadians in your God's blessing. Thanks!

[kookbreaker]

Free Mumia

Oh yeah. let's let a guy who pumped bullets into the face of a police officer go free on the basis of a publicity campaign aimed at Calvin Klein communists in College. Invariably, the person wearing the shirt likely doesn't even know who Daniel Faulkner was.

[NightG1]

Ronald Wilson Reagan -- "Where's the beef?" He completely ruined an almost funny Wendy's commercial.

[kookbreaker]

Originally posted by NightG1
Ronald Wilson Reagan -- "Where's the beef?" He completely ruined an almost funny Wendy's commercial.

That was Mondale.