15 year old turns in her mother for smoking pot

[ravdin]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D96FHJJ80&show_article=1

With this girl's help, the cops found one gram of pot. To put this in perspective, a penny weighs about 2.5 grams. The people at DARE must be very proud.

[quixotecoyote]

I never understood the focus on quantity.

Does having 15 grams of pot make you a worse person than having 3 grams of pot?

[Texas]

I never understood the focus on quantity.

Does having 15 grams of pot make you a worse person than having 3 grams of pot?
It is used to set the line between personal use and enough to sell. As for the mother the article didn't go into detail but it could be that mom is a full blown pot head and with 2 other kids in the house maybe the 15 year old was fed up with mom not taking care of them.

[quixotecoyote]

It is used to set the line between personal use and enough to sell.

Doubtful given that the cut off is generally around an ounce.
http://www.ccsu.edu/imrp/dp21/research/Marijuana%20Decriminalization.pdf

"26 grams, all right here's your ticket. Oh oops, sorry, I joggled the scale, it's really 29 grams. Looks like you're a criminal now."

As for the mother the article didn't go into detail but it could be that mom is a full blown pot head and with 2 other kids in the house maybe the 15 year old was fed up with mom not taking care of them.

You're right, there isn't enough information to make an informed comment on the specifics, which is why I brought up the the broader point it raised.

[EeneyMinnieMoe]

I never understood the focus on quantity.

Does having 15 grams of pot make you a worse person than having 3 grams of pot?

As has been said, a person with 15 grams might not be just a drug user but a drug dealer.

You have alot of it in your house, you were selling.

Poor kid. Usually it's the other way around- parents calling the cops on their kids when they have had enough.

[Alex Libman]

Legalize it.

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Good for her.

[Azure]

Sad tale of 'democracy' when a naturally grown plant is illegal to use for recreational purposes.

I could do worse things with Tylenol.

[jmcvann]

As has been said, a person with 15 grams might not be just a drug user but a drug dealer.

You have alot of it in your house, you were selling.

Poor kid. Usually it's the other way around- parents calling the cops on their kids when they have had enough.

No. 15 grams is half an ounce. That's not for sale. That's for personal use. (OK...she might sell a joint to a friend, but it's not "dealer" quanitity.")

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Sad tale of 'democracy' when a naturally grown plant is illegal to use for recreational purposes.

I could do worse things with Tylenol.

Ummm... What does 'democracy' have to do with drug prohibition?

[plumjam]

She swapped her mother for a smoking pot?

[Alex Libman]

Ummm... What does 'democracy' have to do with drug prohibition?

Democracy is the means by which the government retains its power. Without the quasi-religious "votes grant rights" delusion, totalitarian control of an economically sophisticated society such as ours, including all prohibitions, would be downright impossible.

[Drudgewire]

I've cleaned my apartment fully and haven't smoked in almost half a year, and I couldn't guarantee there isn't a gram of weed somewhere in an old pair of pants.

That barely fits the "weighable amount" standard it takes to arrest someone here... and I'm Leon Lott's jurisdiction. :o

[Vic Vega]

"suspicion of child abuse"

Smoking weed in front of your children probably isn't the brightest thing to do, but child abuse? I'd hope there is more to that charge than just smoking a joint.

[KingMerv00]

Sad tale of 'democracy' when a naturally grown plant is illegal to use for recreational purposes.

I could do worse things with Tylenol.

Pro-legalization politicians are not elected, ergo pot remains illegal. Seems to me, the barrier to legalization IS democracy.

[Gate2501]

No. 15 grams is half an ounce. That's not for sale. That's for personal use. (OK...she might sell a joint to a friend, but it's not "dealer" quanitity.")

Yes, most of my friends (and myself) buy about an oz. at a time, because it is annoying running around to get it repeatedly. It is better to get a months supply at once.

I haven't ever sold it, and neither have they.

15 grams is nothing.

[Nogbad]

Could start a trend like in the old Soviet days. Kids could turn their parents in for speeding, driving and talking on the mobile, fiddling their taxes. There is a whole army of special constables out there waiting to be trained..


so inexpensive too :)

[The_Animus]

Pro-legalization politicians are not elected, ergo pot remains illegal. Seems to me, the barrier to legalization IS democracy.

The barrier is misinformation through media and officials using the misinformation as a means to create fear and get elected. It is incredibly sad how uninformed people who don't smoke pot are about the effects of pot. And of course when you give them proper information they don't believe you and make retarded comments such as, "Geez where do you get your information? High times?"

Uh, no. It's called.... SCIENCE! :mad:

[Damien Evans]

Democracy is the means by which the government retains its power. Without the quasi-religious "votes grant rights" delusion, totalitarian control of an economically sophisticated society such as ours, including all prohibitions, would be downright impossible.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k93/chrishorgen/Funnay/facepalm.jpg?t=1235792929

[Lonewulf]

Democracy is the means by which the government retains its power. Without the quasi-religious "votes grant rights" delusion,

"Votes grant rights"?

Have you heard of the Bill of Rights, by any chance?

totalitarian control of an economically sophisticated society such as ours, including all prohibitions, would be downright impossible.

...so... without a democracy... "totalitarian control" of an "economically sophisticated society" would be downright impossible?

Yeah. Facepalm.

You use many words, that I do not think mean what you think they mean.

[Roadtoad]

Let me guess: Mom demanded the kid clean her room, so the kid turned in mom. Right?

Holy :rule10! Give me a break! Mom wasn't insisting the kid smoke it from the little bit we know. And there's so little information on this, there's no evidence that mom wasn't using it for medical reasons. We know nothing!

One ounce? Hell, when my parents had a rental property, we used to find crack cocaine, crank, God only knows what else, stashed around the duplex. Part of what I had to do was find where the druggies hid their "stuff" and remove it before my parents found it and had the Sacramento County Sheriff bust their former tenants.

For that matter, I knew straight people who actually ABUSED their kids. I was practically screaming for CPS to do something, and most of the time, I was ignored.

What a frakkin' waste!

[The_Animus]

What a frakkin' waste!

Battlestar Galactica style woot! :)

[KingMerv00]

The barrier is misinformation through media and officials using the misinformation as a means to create fear and get elected. It is incredibly sad how uninformed people who don't smoke pot are about the effects of pot. And of course when you give them proper information they don't believe you and make retarded comments such as, "Geez where do you get your information? High times?"

Uh, no. It's called.... SCIENCE! :mad:

OK then, the barrier is paranoia. My point still stands. There is no purer form of democracy than being a busybody.

[Alex Libman]

"Votes grant rights"?

Have you heard of the Bill of Rights, by any chance?

Yes, and I know quite a bit more about it than an average person, like its preamble (http://www.billofrights.org/) and that it was, in fact, a redundant clarification. But where did those rich white men get the "divine mandate" to recognize or not recognize the natural rights of other people? Anyone? Anyone?



...so... without a democracy... "totalitarian control" of an "economically sophisticated society" would be downright impossible?

Yeah, pretty much. There are exceptions, like Dubai or Singapore, but those are special cases where the governments can derive most (or all) of their income from sources other than direct taxation.

The vast majority of countries become more "democratic" when they reach a certain level of economic development: just look at Taiwan, South Korea, Chile, etc. The same thing will inevitably happen in Russia and China as well. When that point is reached, the simplistic brainwashing used by the dictatorships they started out as is no longer enough - they need a new social myth to control society, one that creates an illusion of freedom and justice without really giving anything away.