Is there a "no God"?

[Abdul Alhazred]

Something willed us into existence in order to torment us. Not something you'd care to worship, though you might if there were some benefit to it.
:p :p :D

[El Greco]

Hmmmm...

1) willed us into existence....
2) in order to torment us...
3) not something you'd care to worship, though you might if there were some benefit to it

I got it! It's Woman !!!

[volant]

You forgot the Planet X option.

[Ratman_tf]

Sure! Rape, pillage and kill all you like, people, because we are, every last one of us, damned when we die.

[T'ai Chi]

Originally posted by Abdul Alhazred
Something willed us into existence in order to torment us. Not something you'd care to worship, though you might if there were some benefit to it.
:p :p :D

Why do you view it as torment?

[Dorian Gray]

It's a perverse set of hoop-jumping madness.

If I break all the laws and commandments, rape dead 6 year old retarded leukemia victims, dismember an entire truck stop full of mothertruckers, and just kill, rape and maim for my entire life, but on the last day of my life, I find God and ask for forgiveness, and maybe get baptized or something, I go to heaven?

If I live a pure chaste life full of honey and rosy sweet love and light, but on the last day of my life, I snap and kill some guy, I go to hell?

And similar things in other religions?

Sure it's torment.

[c4ts]

I want my Planet X option!

[wayrad]

Upon seeing the title of this and its sister thread, my question as a player of interactive fiction is: can we have "God" and "no God" at the same time?

How about "almost, but not quite, entirely unlike God"? :D

[Interesting Ian]

Originally posted by Dorian Gray
It's a perverse set of hoop-jumping madness.

If I break all the laws and commandments, rape dead 6 year old retarded leukemia victims, dismember an entire truck stop full of mothertruckers, and just kill, rape and maim for my entire life, but on the last day of my life, I find God and ask for forgiveness, and maybe get baptized or something, I go to heaven?



No, it would only be if you had genuinely changed. Genuinely regretted your actions.

[T'ai Chi]

Originally posted by Dorian Gray
It's a perverse set of hoop-jumping madness.


What is?


If I break all the laws and commandments, rape dead 6 year old retarded leukemia victims, dismember an entire truck stop full of mothertruckers, and just kill, rape and maim for my entire life, but on the last day of my life, I find God and ask for forgiveness, and maybe get baptized or something, I go to heaven?


Probably not, I don't know. I do know that 'good works' is usually a part of faith.


If I live a pure chaste life full of honey and rosy sweet love and light, but on the last day of my life, I snap and kill some guy, I go to hell?


Well, some say that your entire life is taken into consideration and your 'heart'; your deepest thoughts. So, I guess it all depends on God's method of scoring, if a God exists that is.


Sure it's torment.

I asked Abdul, but thanks for answering for him/her. :)

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by T'ai Chi


Why do you view it as torment?

For me personally, it's not.

I spun this off from your original thread to explore the "Evil Bastard" theory.

[espritch]

No, it would only be if you had genuinely changed. Genuinely regretted your actions.

You seem rather certain about that. Did God tell you this personally? Or is this based on your interpretation of some specific revealed sacred text? Or is that just how you think it ought to work?

[Interesting Ian]

Originally posted by espritch


You seem rather certain about that. Did God tell you this personally? Or is this based on your interpretation of some specific revealed sacred text? Or is that just how you think it ought to work?

Yes I am certain. It what makes sense. And besides, the notion of people being punished in an afterlife is so incredibly crass.

[joyrex]

I wonder if this question could be taken as 'Is there something that is not God?'. That is, is there only God - everything is part of Him/Her - or is God just a part of the whole? Oh well, I guess it would then fall to the category of debate over different theisms.

[jimmygun]

What about a religion that says you can murder and rape and pillage and steal and burn and pester and threaten all your life, then on the last day you duct tape a bomb to your head and kill a schoolbus full of jews and get to go to heaven and have 70+ virgins to defile? Are there any religions like that out there?:can:

[espritch]

Yes I am certain. It what makes sense. And besides, the notion of people being punished in an afterlife is so incredibly crass.

So I take it when you refer to God, you aren't refering to one of the traditional hell fire and brimstone smite the sinners Gods of the sort worshiped by Jews, Christians, and Muslims, but rather a God that makes sense according to your personal notion of what God should be (e.g. a God who would never be so crass as to punish people in the afterlife).