March Stundie Nominations

[Travis]

March is here and so is spring/fall depending on your hemisphere. Let us accept change by not changing the successful inflow of hilarious Stundie nominations.

Rules for nominations:

1) Posts must be about Conspiracy Theories and not just nutty things in general.

2) Posts must exhibit ignorance, faulty logic or stupendous arrogance mixed with an ironic mistake.

3) No spelling errors, typos, grammar issues or math mix-ups unless they are deliciously ironic.

4) Posts must be humorous and not just something you disagree with.

5) All nominated posts must have some sort of link or screenshot to prove the reality of the post and it's source.

6) Keep the introductions short and sweet as Stundies should not need too much background.

7) Nominated posts should be cut down to the nominated part which should be concise and stand on its own.

8) This is not the place for ad hominems so a post should be funny independent of knowing who it is that said it.

9) Pictures are not allowed on their own but descriptions of pictures, provided they meet all other previously stated requirements, are allowed.

10) Videos are not allowed on their own but transcripts of videos, provided they meet all other previously stated requirements, are allowed even if you personally did the transcribing.


Have fun folks.

[J. Wellington Wimpy]

First time I've ever had the opportunity to suggest someone for a (potential) Stundie. Please feel free to slap my wrist if I end up botching it somehow, Travis.:)

From the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories thread, Steel structures cannot globally collapse due to gravity alone, I'd like to nominate bob the analyst for the following definition of "critical thinking":

Critical thinkers will always be on the side of not just taking the lame approach "I saw a big fire ball and a jet explode" as being for that's the reason the buildings collapsed." (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4472730&postcount=1622)

Thanks! (Hope I did this correctly...;))

[Travis]

Ah, yes you did things correctly.

Wow. This new Bob is going to be a gold mine.

[ihaunter]

To show that we don't play favorites, I'll go ahead and nominate some delicious irony:
#7 has to be the most ignornant post I've ever read.


emphasis added

I know, he acknowledged the mistake later so it loses a lot of its stundie-ness, but it's only fair to mention it, at least.

[AJM8125]

Don't sweat it. It's not like it's gonna appear in the March Stundie Finals.:p

To show that we don't play favorites, I'll go ahead and nominate some delicious irony:


emphasis added

I know, he acknowledged the mistake later so it loses a lot of its stundie-ness, but it's only fair to mention it, at least.

Ahem. Treachery noted.

[Travis]

Oh, I wouldn't sweat it. With the new Truthers we got on the board there won't be enough room for a little mistake like that even if I thought it warranted Stundie level.

[Disbelief]

This is from February, so is it ineligible?

That is not proof, that is your faith in the DNA Fairy. He provided the DNA and remains to the lab. Do you know where the DNA and remains came from? Do you know the chain of custody or do you just have blind faith? Which has more weight? 13+ witnesses to an NoC/ONA flight path or DNA/remains "found"/offered days after the event?

[Shrinker]

Howdy folks, I haven't been following this stuff for a while, so I popped over to LCF to see how many threads a guy needs to read before finding a potential nomination. Turns out the answer was two.

From a thread unsettlingly titled researching backgrounds of alleged passengers (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1289182/1/) poster JawsInc shows us the era of the investigoogler is finally drawing to a close. But not in the way we hoped...

Has anyone investigated the alleged passengers and their occupations, etc ... I was trying to cross reference the names in the Mousawi trial flash presentation and google'ing their names and Im not getting much, some but not much. There must be an easier way than this...

[AJM8125]

Oh, I wouldn't sweat it. With the new Truthers we got on the board there won't be enough room for a little mistake like that even if I thought it warranted Stundie level.

Lol, I know. Just being ignornant. Don't mind me. :D

[Biscuit]

Oh I can not believe I got to this one first. It is right under our noses in our very own forum.

From Caustic logic we have this pearl.

My position on the issue is, sorry to say, there exists strong points of evidence that the Pearl Harbor debacle was due to a long-term plan to provoke Japan, provide the perfect target, enable and allow the attack, withhold intelligence from the target to ensure surprise, and manipulate the consequences. While there is no proofof this notion, it makes sense from a logic standpoint, and the entirety of evidence I'm aware of is totally consistent with it.

There is evidence that points to a logic conclusion that contains zero proof? Ouch brain hurts.

Bolding is his.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=136679

[J. Wellington Wimpy]

From the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories thread Molten Steel, I'd like to nominate bill smith for the following weapons-grade woo (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4479272&postcount=863):

The mainstream media have no history of helping the TRuth Communityto get the word out. On the contrary they have been heavily complicit in the coverup.

:jaw-dropp

[dudalb]

From the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories thread Molten Steel, I'd like to nominate bill smith for the following weapons-grade woo (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4479272&postcount=863):



:jaw-dropp


With all respect, the Twoofers have been singing that song for some time.

[Travis]

With all respect, the Twoofers have been singing that song for some time.

Which kinda makes it sadder.

[Travis]

This is from February, so is it ineligible?

That's too good to not include.

[Stich2306]

I'm not allowed to post URL's, but there is a goldmine on ATS.

[defaultdotxbe]

I'm not allowed to post URL's, but there is a goldmine on ATS.
you can post it without the http://www. part

[Stich2306]

Thanks

I thought this might fit in:

.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread440882/pg1

Woo fighting woo, over woo. It's a crazy world :confused:

(I know I should pick one post, but it's hard to choose)

[J. Wellington Wimpy]

Thanks

I thought this might fit in:

.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread440882/pg1

Woo fighting woo, over woo. It's a crazy world :confused:

(I know I should pick one post, but it's hard to choose)

From Stich's example (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread440882/pg1) (welcome to the forums, incidentally, Stich!):

Well if you look at the live pictures from amateurs 9/11 one frame at the time, you can clearly see that the plane is a CGI. You can see the building repair itself after the wings are in the building. Don't you think that's funny?

Travis. Dude. SO nominated.:jaw-dropp:D

[Disbelief]

That's too good to not include.

Okay, here it is.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1212539/6/

and to refresh everyone's memory about what Aldo said:

That is not proof, that is your faith in the DNA Fairy. He provided the DNA and remains to the lab. Do you know where the DNA and remains came from? Do you know the chain of custody or do you just have blind faith? Which has more weight? 13+ witnesses to an NoC/ONA flight path or DNA/remains "found"/offered days after the event?

[Dave Rogers]

It looks like bill smith is living up to expectations. How about this for a new spin on confirmation bias?

It's probably possible to come up with other possibilitis for the spectra Jones found but considering that he was speciically looking for that signature- and found it is fairly convincing. That makes the other possibilities less likely.

In other words, if Jones hadn't been looking for thermite, the results wouldn't be convincing, but because he was looking for thermite, they are.

Dave

[J. Wellington Wimpy]

In other words, if Jones hadn't been looking for thermite, the results wouldn't be convincing, but because he was looking for thermite, they are.

Dave

Moved and seconded. :D

[ElMondoHummus]

Howdy folks, I haven't been following this stuff for a while, so I popped over to LCF to see how many threads a guy needs to read before finding a potential nomination. Turns out the answer was two.

From a thread unsettlingly titled researching backgrounds of alleged passengers (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1289182/1/) poster JawsInc shows us the era of the investigoogler is finally drawing to a close. But not in the way we hoped...


Has anyone investigated the alleged passengers and their occupations, etc ... I was trying to cross reference the names in the Mousawi trial flash presentation and google'ing their names and Im not getting much, some but not much. There must be an easier way than this...



There must be an easier way??? :wide-eyed

[Dave Rogers]

Spelling the names right might be an easier way. I googled Mousawi and didn't find out anything about 9/11.

Dave

[ElMondoHummus]

Okay, here it is.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1212539/6/

and to refresh everyone's memory about what Aldo said:

Mother of God... given that they came from burnt victim's remains, what the :rule10 is his theory? That they took the individuals, burned them to death, then deposited them at the Pentagon for DNA harvesting??

Or ditto for the hijackers. They got these guys, burned them to death, then deposited them there? Is he serious???

Look, the sad thing is, none of this is stupidity arising from laziness or passive behavior. They are actively going out of their way to concoct these lunacies. The idiocy is enabled and propogated by their industriousness. This so forcefully brings to mind a quote from history, because it so accurately describes conspiracy peddlers:


“I divide my officers into four classes; the clever, the lazy, the industrious, and the stupid. Most often two of these qualities come together. The officers who are clever and industrious are fitted for the highest staff appointments. Those who are stupid and lazy make up around 90% of every army in the world, and they can be used for routine work. The man who is clever and lazy however is for the very highest command; he has the temperament and nerves to deal with all situations. But whoever is stupid and industrious is a menace and must be removed immediately!”


Guess which of his categories I'm referring to here. :rolleyes: The point is that it's bad enough to be wrong, but that's a state one can recover from. For someone to take that state and work at being even more wrong, all the while oblivious to the sheer error accumulated in their stance, is beyond stupid; it's an active lunacy that lessens the world by its mere existence.

Gaaahhhh... those people...

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Steven Ciapanna, 1st runner up in the facebook debunking group village idiot contest almost stands up for Craig and Aldo: (http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=8222&post=37208&uid=2211830485#/topic.php?uid=2211830485&topic=8222)

Ben, it's not very hard to understand. I agree with their results, just not the conclusions they came up with based on those "facts".

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/Kilstryke/StevenCiapannaStundieNom2.jpg

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Spelling the names right might be an easier way.


r u kding? spling iz hrd!

[Trojan_Jockey]

Here's a nice claim from the David Icke forum. The Nazis can't have used human hair to make textiles because Jews just didn't have enough, especially the men.

"I am suspicious of this story, it is one thing making textiles from the hair of sheep and goats -each animal has more hair than many hundreds of humans, even then male-pattern baldness was around in the 40's too so where the **** would they get the human hair from?"

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56180&page=2

[Edges]

I'm not sure if this meets all of the qualifications, but I'm nominating this post (No, even if it was cord, and not his frail hands, there's no way a shriveled little 98 year old dude has enough body weight to do the job.)by Caustic Logic from the Rudolf Hess thread because of the implication that old people are lighter than air and thus cannot strangle themselves by hanging:

No, even if it was cord, and not his frail hands, there's no way a shriveled little 98 year old dude has enough body weight to do the job.

[Horatius]

I'm not sure if this meets all of the qualifications, but I'm nominating this post (No, even if it was cord, and not his frail hands, there's no way a shriveled little 98 year old dude has enough body weight to do the job.)by Caustic Logic from the Rudolf Hess thread because of the implication that old people are lighter than air and thus cannot strangle themselves by hanging:



That one doesn't count, as he intended it as a joke.

[Edges]

That one doesn't count, as he intended it as a joke.

:oDarn. Thought I had one.

[dudalb]

brasil ,in the JREF 9/11 theory page http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=135817&page=8 explains why the US had no legal jurisdiction in the 9/11 case:

it was a crime committed by foreign nationals (supposedly), holding mostly saudi passports. that makes it an international law enforcement issue, unless of course someone decides that's too messy and might reflect badly on the parties who were asleep at the wheel, and it's easier to just launch a couple of wars in the middle of the night.

A lot of foreign nationals doing time in the prisons of countries other then their own might disagree with brasil.
Twoofers are world class when it comes to making fools of themselves by talking about things they obviously know nothing about.

[Travis]

March is off to a good start.

[J. Wellington Wimpy]

March is off to a good start.

You don't know the half of it, big guy. Take a long, disbelieving gander at this (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=197013&t=1289346).:D

[dudalb]

9/11 Investigator in the JREF 9/11 section http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=136537&page=3 tells us who is REALLY Behind Everything Bad In The US:


What else is new? 'Anti-semite' as in: 'seeing through the jews'?

The Dutch Staten Generaal (as in: Staten Island) wanted to send a contingent of jews to New Amsterdam (giving in to pressure from the Amsterdam Jews). Peter Stuyvesant resisted that idea. He wrote to the Staten: "they are a treacherous people, I don't want them!". Read about that story in the book 'The Island at the Center of the World: The Epic Story of Dutch Manhattan and the Forgotten Colony That Shaped America' by the jewish author Russell Shorto.

Peter Stuyvesant lost, they came. It took them until 1912 to completely take over the US-joint when they captured the FED and thus American politics until this day. And now they are using America as a vehicle to try to conquer the rest of the world. That's where this 9/11 deception fitted in.

Wow....just wow.
THe guy is making no effort to hide it, is he?
Deserves a stundie just for the sheer Chutzpah involved.

[Klimax]

Yes, material of dropped part C and hit part A doesn't matter! It can be composite steel structures, pizza paper boxes, sponges of syntethic or natural fibres, lemons, etc. as described before. Part C can never crush down part A! There are two basic cases!

1. The energy applied is only sufficient to elastically deform parts A and C. Result - part C bounces on part A.

2. The energy applied is sufficient to cause failures of parts A and C. Then parts A and C are damaged at the contact area, the interface changes and the energy is consumed by local faulures of both parts A and C.

Quite basic actually. Part C can never destroy part A.

Yes,I am Heiwa-watcher and bring you another fine post of his.See bolded,can there be any fitting description?Just Heiwa-type experiment...

[Belz...]

I can't believe those dopes are still at it.

Don't they have new CTs to worry about ?

[Travis]

You don't know the half of it, big guy. Take a long, disbelieving gander at this (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=197013&t=1289346).:D

Yes, Dom is.......special in a not good way.

9/11 Investigator in the JREF 9/11 section http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=136537&page=3 tells us who is REALLY Behind Everything Bad In The US:

Wow....just wow.
THe guy is making no effort to hide it, is he?
Deserves a stundie just for the sheer Chutzpah involved.

Things quieted down for awhile but this new crop of Truthers we have are really providing the hilarious goods.

I can't believe those dopes are still at it.

Don't they have new CTs to worry about ?

We just have to wait for another natural disaster and they will surely construct some fanciful tale around it.

[dudalb]

Things quieted down for awhile but this new crop of Truthers we have are really providing the hilarious goods.

I generally agree...the new batch is providing much amusement...but the kind of old fashioned Anti Semitism that 9/11 investigator is indulging in is not really funny.
It says something that this kind of open Anti Semite is what the Truth movement is now attracting and welcoming. More and more they are not even attempting the old "we are not Anti Semitic, Just Anti Zionist" routine.

[Elizabeth I]

You don't know the half of it, big guy. Take a long, disbelieving gander at this (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=197013&t=1289346).:D

Nope, sorry, too long...:p

[Tandem Thinking]

Okay, I got one.
I entered into a debate with another person on the facebook group:
The World is NOT going to end on December 21, 2012

And after I had pretty much owned my opponent with my astounding display of irrefutable logic (or so I like to think), I got this reply:

whatever. i don't care cause you'll die in a few years anyway. I know i'm right so i could give two OMGRULE10 if you believe me

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Okay, I got one.
I entered into a debate with another person on the facebook group:
The World is NOT going to end on December 21, 2012

And after I had pretty much owned my opponent with my astounding display of irrefutable logic (or so I like to think), I got this reply:


Is it evil to suggest that, if someone believes their life is going to end in a few short years, that they just get it over with...?

[Klimax]

Okay, I got one.
I entered into a debate with another person on the facebook group:
The World is NOT going to end on December 21, 2012

And after I had pretty much owned my opponent with my astounding display of irrefutable logic (or so I like to think), I got this reply:

How many years is few years??? :confused:
Sadly I doubt it will make it to stundie-vote...

[Tandem Thinking]

Is it evil to suggest that, if someone believes their life is going to end in a few short years, that they just get it over with...?

Yes. However, it's not evil to try to persuade them to sell you their stuff, I like to think of it as teaching them a lesson.

How many years is few years???
Sadly I doubt it will make it to stundie-vote...

I assume however many years it is until 2012.
1...2....3....3 years and change. (December 21, 2012)

Well, I thought it was funny. :(

[Klimax]

Yes. However, it's not evil to try to persuade them to sell you their stuff, I like to think of it as teaching them a lesson.



I assume however many years it is until 2012.
1...2....3....3 years and change. (December 21, 2012)

Well, I thought it was funny. :(

Don't forget that there is HUGE competition from resident troofers and CT-ers out there generaly.It was funny, but.. erm have you looked at past nominations? Like mine(Heiwa and nuclear bomb vs. rigid structure) for January?

And teaching them lesson?Why not...
(I can't test it,no idiocy of such grades,at least visible...)

[Dave Rogers]

You don't know the half of it, big guy. Take a long, disbelieving gander at this (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=197013&t=1289346).:D

ts;dr

(Too Stupid; Didn't Read)

Dave

[Horatius]

Is it evil to suggest that, if someone believes their life is going to end in a few short years, that they just get it over with...?



Don't know about "Evil", but advocating suicide is against the MA here, and you're edging up to that line.....

[Travis]

Don't advocate suicide. Just wait for him to sell all his possessions for cheap in anticipation of the end-of-all-things.

[Horatius]

Just wait for him to sell all his possessions for cheap in anticipation of the end-of-all-things.



Yeah, but do we really need that much MILF porn?

[Tandem Thinking]

Don't forget that there is HUGE competition from resident troofers and CT-ers out there generaly.It was funny, but.. erm have you looked at past nominations? Like mine(Heiwa and nuclear bomb vs. rigid structure) for January?

And teaching them lesson?Why not...
(I can't test it,no idiocy of such grades,at least visible...)

Very true, I hadn't seen the Heiwa quote yet, but now that I have, it does look like there will definitely be some stiff competition.

Yeah, but do we really need that much MILF porn?

ROFLMAO

[Mr.Herbert]

Attention:

The Jews are not only involved with 911, they put their mark on the eye of the Hurricane that was off the coast of NY on 9-11.

I found this whopper of a post at ATS. Seems there is a member there who is a big fan of Dr.Judy Wood. I'm not sure who should be nominated.... the person that posted this...or Dr. Woods.

Here is what Andrew Johnson and Judy Wood claim in regards to the hurricane:


It could be hyperdimensional bleed through or a characteristic of the technology being used to manipulate the storm.

As regards the hurricane being an "energy source", some people may have said this, but it wasn't Dr Wood or myself. We have both suggested that the hurricane provided a FIELD COMPONENT - i.e. the field effect of the storm was used in conjunction with other "Hutchison Effect"-related technology to turn the towers to dust. Field Effects seem to be the principle on which the technology operates - but "deeper" details are unavailable to us, of course.


http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/3/3/2/kennet/f_hurricaneism_cb50036.jpg

yes I know this isn't even Hurricane Erin.

The entire post can be found here:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread443112/pg1#pid5944575

[Travis]

Yeah, but do we really need that much MILF porn?

I scoff at the idea that there could ever be too much MILF porn!

Attention:

The Jews are not only involved with 911, they put their mark on the eye of the Hurricane that was off the coast of NY on 9-11.


Did that storm even make landfall?

[Mr.Herbert]

no, it didn't

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/prelims/2001erin1.gif

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Don't know about "Evil", but advocating suicide is against the MA here, and you're edging up to that line.....
Don't advocate suicide. Just wait for him to sell all his possessions for cheap in anticipation of the end-of-all-things.


Aww, come on... I was Just Asking Questions™... :boxedin:

[Grizzly Bear]

Attention:

<snip>
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread443112/pg1#pid5944575

Just when you think you're seen it all.... maybe that doesn't apply to this CT?

[Orphia Nay]

From an article T.A.M. found (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4492994&postcount=1630) entitled "Will Truth Commission expose 9-11 & UFO secrets? (http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m3d6-Will-Truth-Commission-expose-911--UFO-secrets)" comes this sentence the author bolded:

"A Truth Commission would be more likely to have the truth emerge on Bush administration policies since it would not be burdened by the high evidentiary standards needed for criminal prosecution."

[Tandem Thinking]

Attention:

The Jews are not only involved with 911, they put their mark on the eye of the Hurricane that was off the coast of NY on 9-11.

I found this whopper of a post at ATS. Seems there is a member there who is a big fan of Dr.Judy Wood. I'm not sure who should be nominated.... the person that posted this...or Dr. Woods.

Here is what Andrew Johnson and Judy Wood claim in regards to the hurricane:




http://img02.picoodle.com/img/img02/3/3/2/kennet/f_hurricaneism_cb50036.jpg

yes I know this isn't even Hurricane Erin.

The entire post can be found here:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread443112/pg1#pid5944575

The contest is over. This would have to be one exceptional month to generate quotes that can top that.
I especially like how the picture of the 9/11 hurricane is dated from 2003.

That would've been an interesting headline.
"Time-Traveling Hurricane JOOS Makes Landfall in NYC" :confused::boggled::eye-poppi:covereyes

[Hokulele]

The contest is over. This would have to be one exceptional month to generate quotes that can top that.
I especially like how the picture of the 9/11 hurricane is dated from 2003.

That would've been an interesting headline.
"Time-Traveling Hurricane JOOS Makes Landfall in NYC" :confused::boggled::eye-poppi:covereyes


Double-nominated as the title of that thread references a "pentagram". Can someone refresh my memory as to how many sides/points a Star of David includes?

[Toke]

I am pretty sure there are at least 5 :D

[Mr.Herbert]

"Time-Traveling Hurricane JOOS Makes Landfall in NYC" :confused::boggled::eye-poppi:covereyes


:dl:

[Architect]

I assume I can't nominate Bob the Analyst for his "If you're an architect then I design space elevators for a living" quote?

[Mel Odious]

Double-nominated as the title of that thread references a "pentagram". Can someone refresh my memory as to how many sides/points a Star of David includes?

A Star of David has six points, and is formed by drawing two triangles on top of one another.

D***, you guys are finding all these great Stundies, and I haven't run into anything yet this month! :mad:

[Travis]

I assume I can't nominate Bob the Analyst for his "If you're an architect then I design space elevators for a living" quote?

Pretty much everything that poster put in that thread is stundiable. Pick out one excerpt you like in particular.

[Architect]

It's a huge choice, mate. I'm still laughing at:

I will out you as a complet fraud, fake and phony...you design buildings as much as I design space elevators,

But much as I like massaging my own ego - hell, it's part of the Bachelor of Architecture exam - I'm not sure it's really a stundie quote. So I'll go for this:

and did you know that construction grade steel is designed and manufactured for being able to conform and hold steady and not lose strength for up to 4400 degrees fahrenheit was used in the wtc?


I mean, that's only 8 to 10 times the highest on-going temperature of the wtc fires that was recorded

this is why you shills are wrong,,,very very wrong...you would never design, test and build a structure that could not easily and readily survive the worst case scenraio and disaster times a ten factor...take a guess what the seismic rating was designed, test and built into the wtc for survivability was...

we're talking richter scale kids...then what was the largest richter scale recorded event on the eastern seaboard and for NY?

Still, I can't wait to see these space elevator designs......

[Toke]

You could have included the celcius for us non-americans.
4400 degrees fahrenheit = 2427C

That steel alloy could make bob very rich.

[Mel Odious]

Ever heard of Occam's Razor?

an arbitrary choice based on manipulated information.

From a "Moon Hoax" thread at the DI Forums. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=850784&postcount=232)

[Rolfe]

It's a huge choice, mate. I'm still laughing at:

But much as I like massaging my own ego - hell, it's part of the Bachelor of Architecture exam - I'm not sure it's really a stundie quote. So I'll go for this:

Still, I can't wait to see these space elevator designs......


Oh. I went off for a read at that thread.

Now my sides hurt.

Rolfe.

[Travis]

From a "Moon Hoax" thread at the DI Forums. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=850784&postcount=232)

Oh, that is just sad.

[ihaunter]

I've seen times when people try to abuse occam's razor that would fit that description, though. The old "describe the opposing view in the most complicated way and my view in a single simple statement" routine.

For example: What seems more likely, that the government, who we know lies all the time, is telling the truth about launching men safely through the deadly radiation of the Van Allen belt, was able to land absolutely perfectly on the moon, make a flag wave where there shouldn't be any wind, make a second safe trip through the Van Allen belt, and land safely in the ocean; or that they faked the whole thing?

Obviously not a proper application of Occam's razor, but it doesn't stop some from trying. And improper application of a principle is not a reason to dismiss that principle out of hand.

[Redtail]

Naudetsleuth At Youtube think rouge elements of the FDNY and the Naudets were in on it.

The theory is: Rogue infiltrated elements of FDNY were in on the crime, as a propaganda team. They planned months ahead to make a snuff film out of the day's events, getting dramatic, "lucky" footage, then selling it back to us as a respectable documentary, so they could revel in their crime, rub our nose in it, and stoke war fever.

Wow...

[Minadin]

It's a huge choice, mate. I'm still laughing at:

But much as I like massaging my own ego - hell, it's part of the Bachelor of Architecture exam - I'm not sure it's really a stundie quote. So I'll go for this:

Still, I can't wait to see these space elevator designs......

The Bill and Bob show in that thread was quite entertaining. That's perhaps Bob's best material, but how about this one from Bill:

While you may have adressed qquestions to Bob I am not aware of any that you addressed to me. At least none that I can remember or was perhaps interested in . Give me the post numbers nd I will check them out. I do not intend to have a general discussion on the fire performnce of steel except where it may be germane to my argument of the time.

(Bolding mine)

[Redtail]

If the video is not proof then no audio is not disproof!

If you can say a video like this is not proof than I can say no audio of the tower collapses is not disproof of a demolition.

Sure you wanna make that trade?

[Cl1mh4224rd]

From JSSTyger, our newest gem. Apparently truthers have the sight of the gods.

Its so easy understanding the world when you look at whats happening from truther eyes. You don't ponder why the economy is going to **** and why we are still in Iraq. You know.


The economy and Iraq thing are complete non sequiturs, but man...

[Travis]

Awesome finds.

Here's Butter Cookies take on what a police state is:

It's pretty much like that here in Memphis TN too...POLICE ARE EVERYWHERE!!!! They do sit on the side of the expressway in new model jeeps...they are out more than ever before...Its ridiculous..We ARE in a police state

[Disbelief]

Saw a headline on yahoo about the top 10 conspiracy theories, so I took a look. Most of the comments are by rational people, but someone is a bit out there. I have heard the crap about Silverstein and the insurance, but I never heard he did quite so well:

In July of 2001 the Trade Centers were sold to a private individual - Larry Silverstein, with an insurance policy for 230 billion should the towers be destroyed by a terrorist attack. Coincidence?

http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/top10-conspiracy-theories-1.html#comments

[Minadin]

Saw a headline on yahoo about the top 10 conspiracy theories, so I took a look. Most of the comments are byh rational people, but someone is a bt out there. I have heard the crap about Silverstein and the insurance, but I never quite heard he did so well:



http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/top10-conspiracy-theories-1.html#comments


$230 Billion? Even if that were true, and it's not, you have 2 towers at 208'x208' for 43,000 s.f. per floor, 110 floors per tower for . . .

more than $24,000 per square foot of leaseable space.

[Disbelief]

$230 Billion? Even if that were true, and it's not, you have 2 towers at 208'x208' for 43,000 s.f. per floor, 110 floors per tower for . . .

more than $24,000 per square foot of leaseable space.

I would like to know what the monthly premium was as well.

[bonavada]

D***, you guys are finding all these great Stundies, and I haven't run into anything yet this month! :mad:

LOOK HERE (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54907&page=2)

After reading that thread my brain is not on straight. It's a Stundie *********** motherlode...........................

BV

[Hittman]

A Star of David has six points, and is formed by drawing two triangles on top of one another.

The symbol in the eye of the hurricane is obviously the Anarchy "A". So it was created by anarchists. Who knew they were so well versed in weather control?

While I was typing this Neil Young's "Hurricane" came on the radio. That's PROOF of a conspiracy. Of some sort. Mind reading, or something. I'll figure it out and let you know.

[Bobert]

Thanks

I thought this might fit in:

.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread440882/pg1

Woo fighting woo, over woo. It's a crazy world :confused:

(I know I should pick one post, but it's hard to choose)
great thread over that at ATS!
This struck me:
You tell the thousands of New Yorkers that all watched the plane with their own eyes that it was CGI'd into thin air. You also tell all the people that filmed the first and second planes that all of their video tapes were magically altered and had a CGI plane added in. I wonder what the ones with home videos will say...

So truthers are happy to, "debunk" the no planers with witness claims of watching the planes hit BUT at the pentagon the witnesses who saw Flight 77 hit were fooled.

[Klimax]

Regardless - I apply same scientific principles to WTC 1 destruction; it should have been like a ship collision ... but it was controlled demolition. Easy to see, when you have investigated 250 tanker collisions and some insurance frauds.

Yes,ships do behave same way as parts of tower.Heiwa strikes once again.

[Doctor Evil]

I am starting to think that Heiwa takes the studies very seriously. He tries to win it practically every month.

[dudalb]

Alex Jones exposes that "Watchmen" is an illuminati plot,and Alan Moore is a Freemason:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXVuA7wKSKY

http://Part 2: http://www.youtube.co...?v=ctTOzEFbXLU

http://Part 3: http://www.youtube.co...?v=RbEUweFtuD8

http://Part 4: http://www.youtube.co...?v=FBxAXYZHe60

[Cl1mh4224rd]

I am starting to think that Heiwa takes the studies very seriously. He tries to win it practically every month.


I can assure that it's certainly not studies that Heiwa takes seriously...

[Myron Proudfoot]

The symbol in the eye of the hurricane is obviously the Anarchy "A". So it was created by anarchists. Who knew they were so well versed in weather control? .

I dunno, I think it looks like the mason's symbol...

[TSR]

The symbol in the eye of the hurricane is obviously the Anarchy "A".

Oh. come on -- it's quite obviously a still from a giant meteorological MILF porn epic -- don't you recongnize the nipple?

[Doctor Evil]

I can assure that it's certainly not studies that Heiwa takes seriously...

I wanted to say stundies. :o:blush:

[Klimax]

I am starting to think that Heiwa takes the studies very seriously. He tries to win it practically every month.

I wanted to say stundies. :o:blush:

As Heiwa nominator,yes it is enough to keep an eye on him and you fill your monthly quota in a matter of week.(or days)
And I prepared nice remark and you blew it. :(

And I am afraid Travis decides that Heiwa is no more permitted.

[Redtail]

LOOK HERE (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54907&page=2)

After reading that thread my brain is not on straight. It's a Stundie *********** motherlode...........................

BV

:jaw-dropp You could have given some warning....

[bonavada]

:jaw-dropp You could have given some warning....


My deepest apologies....... :-]

However, here's my Stundie for this month. I followed some of the links in that thread and it led me to THIS POST (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=906.0;prev_next=prev#new) which I feel compelled to nominate (it's the penultimate post on that page, by "Ford")

Ever wondered why the checkout girl at your local supermarket looks so blurry-eyed and washed out? Here's your answer.:-


Most of you will remember this cover.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_874849bb9df9d94a0.jpg

Take a look at the barcode.


http://i43.tinypic.com/110jbe0.jpg


On the bar code, you can see the dates 1941 and 2001, with a 6 on both sides of them. Anyone familiar with bar codes knows that the sixes to the right of the center are symbolized by two thin lines. Two thin lines are also at the beginning, the center, and the end. The reason for these lines is supposedly so the scanner knows when to stop. If you take the two thin center lines and give them a value of 6, then you get 6, 1941, 6, 2001, 6. 1941 was the year Pearl Harbor was bombed, and of course our generation's Pearl Harbor occurred in 2001. Three sixes is the biblical mark of the beast.BV

[Klimax]

My deepest apologies....... :-]

However, here's my Stundie for this month. I followed some of the links in that thread and it led me to THIS POST (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=906.0;prev_next=prev#new) which I feel compelled to nominate (it's the penultimate post on that page, by "Ford")

Ever wondered why the checkout girl at your local supermarket looks so blurry-eyed and washed out? Here's your answer.:-


BV

You forgot secondary warning.It looks like this months is another killer.

[philkensebben]

LOOK HERE (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54907&page=2)

After reading that thread my brain is not on straight. It's a Stundie *********** motherlode...........................

BV

That whole forum makes me mad. I hate the fact i have to share the planet with people that stupid.

[Redtail]

My deepest apologies....... :-]

However, here's my Stundie for this month. I followed some of the links in that thread and it led me to THIS POST (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=906.0;prev_next=prev#new) which I feel compelled to nominate (it's the penultimate post on that page, by "Ford")

Ever wondered why the checkout girl at your local supermarket looks so blurry-eyed and washed out? Here's your answer.:-


BV

This is the one that gets me...

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m127/cmann1071/911superman.jpg

[dudalb]

And don't forget Marvel had Dr Doom Crying at Ground Zero.
I know that Marvel meant well by that memorial issue of Spiderman, but it very badly executed.

[Travis]

As Heiwa nominator,yes it is enough to keep an eye on him and you fill your monthly quota in a matter of week.(or days)
And I prepared nice remark and you blew it. :(

And I am afraid Travis decides that Heiwa is no more permitted.

Did I do that while on a drug trip?:confused:

[Klimax]

Did I do that while on a drug trip?:confused:

Sorry,missing word might.You did not,but who knows?

[Travis]

Don't worry about it.;)

[Alferd_Packer]

A blast from the past, chemie nonsense

From Bruno:

Contrails never last more than a few seconds because water is a heat conductor, so it absorbs the heat of all the air around it, and the heat of the sun. That's why when you see a contrail behind a jet, it disappears as quickly as it appears, and the trail stays the same length the entire time as the jet flies overhead because it is constantly being replenished as fast as it disappears.

You will never see a contrail appear among clouds because clouds form in high humidity, generally at low altitudes. Clouds are a direct result of high humidity. Contrails form in low humidity, and dissipate just as quickly.

http://www.rantrave.com/Rant/Birfers-Truthers-and-Chemies.aspx

[Elizabeth I]

Of all the CTs, I think chemtrails boggle my mind the most.

[sts60]

turbonium explains (http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=136948&st=255&p=2770424&#entry2770424) how the Chinese could have faked their taikonauts EVAs using not a big pool of water, but rather... (drum roll, please)
If it's not water, perhaps? Superfluid helium has no viscosity, and acts like a vacuum.
...
The main point is this - that water isn't necessarily the only liquid medium available to the Chinese for simulating a space walk. At least one alternative medium is known to exist.
Yes, that's right. Superfluid liquid helium, the ideal and plentiful substance in which to immerse your fake astronauts!

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Yes, that's right. Superfluid liquid helium, the ideal and plentiful substance in which to immerse your fake astronauts!


And apparently a form of matter that acts just like an absence of matter.

[defaultdotxbe]

And apparently a form of matter that acts just like an absence of matter.
and you only have to cool it to -455 F, really does seem ideal

[Klimax]

and you only have to cool it to -455 F, really does seem ideal

But it simulates space coldness ideally.

[Travis]

Why don't they just use nano-water?:rolleyes:

[Klimax]

Why don't they just use nano-water?:rolleyes:

Don't you confuse homeopathy with nano-CT?

[Stich2306]

Well, I guess it is hard to see what a plane does when there's a fireball...

Has anyone ever asked him why he said he saw the plane enter the pentagon?

I think he said he didn't see what the plane did after it hit because of the fireball.

[1337m4n]

From malcomxwarrior:

Nobody is talking about killing jews. You can't kill something that doesn't exist.

The "jews" are a Mongoloid asiatic race, descendants of cain and are responsible for WW1, WW2, the war in Iraq, 9/11, and coming soon to home near you, war with iran.

Now I do not hate so-called jews. I need to make that clear. There are just evil people. No color, creed,race, or religion. we are simply talking about evil PEOPLE. NOT evil religion, evil race, Etc.

This is not "jewish cabal" This is not the "protocols of zion" . This is not denying the horrors of the holocaust. This is answering the "jewish question".

The people that control this world. These evil people. Follow the bible to the core. A book about good Vs. Evil. taking place in armageddon(tel megiddo). So, I do NOT to see this war happen. But there are people there are higher ups who are making sure this is a certainty.

Your leaders are not sane people. They are evil crazy psychos. And the majority of the people on this earth will face their wrath.

I'm sorry to say this, but it is happening right now. Unfortunately most people are too stupid to see it.

Not evil jews. evil people. There are evil people that live in the United states that live in bolivia, that live all over the world. Alex Jones calls it the New World order. I call them the powers that be

Money shot is bolded, but the rest of the post is stundie-worthy as well.

[dudalb]

Wow. Just wow.
Even the facepalm does not show how totally insane that malcolmxwarrior rant is.

[IMST]

Stich2306 and 1337m4n, can you post links so we can see those in context? I know you can't post links yet Stich, but if you leave off the http bit we should be able to see plain text.

Thanks!

[1337m4n]

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4517253#post4517253

[Tandem Thinking]

Remember the good old days when the earth was flat?
And then a bunch of scientists came along and ruined that for us?
Well, these people have stood up as a collective voice to reject the silly notion that the earth is a sphere:

Gotta love circular reasoning.
Q: "If you're not sure about the motive, why do you say there is a conspiracy?"

A: Well it's quite simple really; if the Earth is in fact flat, then the space agencies must be lying when they say it isn't.

flatearthsocietyfaq (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=ff9038dc1653600f5ff56d75c36f16 2b&topic=13876.0)

There is much more loveable nonsense in the rest of this post, but this is one of the parts I found most amusing.
NASA -- Okay, so the top three (at most) need to know, we'll say. These are the guys who actually are controlling the conspiracy, and maybe some of the profit is divided amongst them, but they don't need to be bribed to shut their mouths, and thus have no leverage amongst the others. If we say about three other people in NASA know about it, who are helping with image editing, video editing, and general coverage, but working closely with the top three.
Public Relations People -- NASA or RASA conspirators could fill this role, too, but again, generosity has the better of me, and I'm going to say that the conspiracy hires people to do this, too, since the guys in the space exploration teams are filled with a bunch of pale, pimply white guys, and therefore aren't good at convincing people of the truth. We'll say they need a couple of these guys, bringing the total up to a whopping twenty people.

The Conclusive Categorical Conspiracy Compendium (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=ff9038dc1653600f5ff56d75c36f16 2b&topic=6308.0)

No explanation required.
If you start in one spot a head due south and continue all the way around until you arrive back in the same spot, that would predict a round earth. No one has ever done it. Considering it has been done numerous times east-west, I can't think of any other reason why, except it isn't possible.

Another win for FE!
People do it all the time, you just choose to deny the evidence.
Show me the evidence of a polar circumnavigation.
transglobe expedition (http://www.transglobe-expedition.org/page/the-expedition)
U.S. Department of Commerce - funded by the US government, come on man you are going to have to do better than that
Observable Phenomenon Thread (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=ff9038dc1653600f5ff56d75c36f16 2b&topic=27633.20)

[defaultdotxbe]

But it simulates space coldness ideally.
youd think that, but no, as a vacuum there is actually very little heat transfer in space, its like the vacuum chamber in a thermos, keeps hot stuff hot and cold stuff cold

as i understand it the very cold effects actually come from water instantly evaporating in the low (zero) air pressure and IIRC the main concern with astronauts on the moon mission was overheating due to the difficulty in venting heat from the suits

[Cl1mh4224rd]

youd think that, but no, as a vacuum there is actually very little heat transfer in space, its like the vacuum chamber in a thermos, keeps hot stuff hot and cold stuff cold

as i understand it the very cold effects actually come from water instantly evaporating in the low (zero) air pressure and IIRC the main concern with astronauts on the moon mission was overheating due to the difficulty in venting heat from the suits


Bingo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_Cooling_and_Ventilation_Garment).

[Dave Rogers]

It's a bit difficult to distill a specific stundie out of the stream of unconsciousness that bill smith's currently pumping out mechanically on the wtc7 thread. My personal favourite is the fact that he clearly doesn't even understand how a steam locomotive works, but that's probably just me.

That's a smoke generator, no error. It seems obvious to me that that smoke is being mechanically pumped out like the smoke from a locomotive.

Smoke coming from a burning building? Must be a smoke machine. It's so obvious.

Dave

[Travis]

From malcomxwarrior:



Money shot is bolded, but the rest of the post is stundie-worthy as well.

My response is: :eek::rolleyes::(:boxedin::boggled::covereyes:eye-poppi:mad::boggled::covereyes:jaw-dropp:(:mad:

[Klimax]

Remember the good old days when the earth was flat?
And then a bunch of scientists came along and ruined that for us?
Well, these people have stood up as a collective voice to reject the silly notion that the earth is a sphere:

Gotta love circular reasoning.


flatearthsocietyfaq (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=ff9038dc1653600f5ff56d75c36f16 2b&topic=13876.0)

There is much more loveable nonsense in the rest of this post, but this is one of the parts I found most amusing.



The Conclusive Categorical Conspiracy Compendium (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=ff9038dc1653600f5ff56d75c36f16 2b&topic=6308.0)

No explanation required.





Observable Phenomenon Thread (http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=ff9038dc1653600f5ff56d75c36f16 2b&topic=27633.20)

You think you have seen the best/worst?
try this: (WARNING:EXTREME INSANITY AHEAD!!!) http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11293.0

I guarantee death from laughter,huge hole in wall (:bwall) and brain death all at the same time.It is not stundie per se,just example.

And I have read that thread about one/one and half year ago...

[Klimax]

youd think that, but no, as a vacuum there is actually very little heat transfer in space, its like the vacuum chamber in a thermos, keeps hot stuff hot and cold stuff cold

as i understand it the very cold effects actually come from water instantly evaporating in the low (zero) air pressure and IIRC the main concern with astronauts on the moon mission was overheating due to the difficulty in venting heat from the suits

Hey,it was meant to be joke!!! I guess,I was again too subtle...

[Dave Rogers]

You think you have seen the best/worst?
try this: (WARNING:EXTREME INSANITY AHEAD!!!) http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11293.0


This is brilliant. I've never seen such an outstanding piece of cognitive dissonance.


Of course the photos theoretically could have been faked. However if Dio wants to convince us that nuclear bombs do not exist, the burden of proof is on him to demonstrate those photos are fake. If he does not do so, it is logical for us to assume the photos are real. In regards to photos of the round Earth; it is the round Earthers who are trying to do the convincing that the Earth is round, there are no flat Earthers trying to convince people that the world is flat. Therefore if they want us to believe that the Earth is round, the burden of proof is on them to prove that the Earth is round.

To sum up; there is no burden of proof on somebody to prove something to themselves. The burden of proof is always on the person trying to convince people that their opinion is the correct one. In this case it is Dio who is trying to convince us that nukes don't exist. In the case of the FE, it is the REers that are trying to convince people that the Earth is not flat.


So let's see: Photos of the aftermath of Hiroshima must be proven to be fakes, otherwise the Hiroshima bomb is presumed to have been real, but photographs of the Earth from space must be proven to be real otherwise the Earth is presumed to be flat, and both of these arguments arise from the same line of reasoning. And, best of all, the bolded passage, which I'd like to nominate formally for a Stundie; proof is for other people.

Dave

[twinstead]

So the burden of proof simply resides with whoever disagrees with you, no matter what. BRILLIANT! Another fine example of the Cloak of Undebunkabilitytm

[Myron Proudfoot]

If you start in one spot a head due south and continue all the way around until you arrive back in the same spot, that would predict a round earth. No one has ever done it. Considering it has been done numerous times east-west, I can't think of any other reason why, except it isn't possible.

I am confused. Why would flying around the Earth North-South prove the Earth is round, but flying around the Earth from East-West does not??

[twinstead]

Has nobody really ever flown all around the earth north-south??

[Horatius]

I am confused. Why would flying around the Earth North-South prove the Earth is round, but flying around the Earth from East-West does not??



Well, so far, we've only proved the Earth is a cylinder, obviously!

[Dave Rogers]

Well, so far, we've only proved the Earth is a cylinder, obviously!

"And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped!"

Dave

[R.Mackey]

youd think that, but no, as a vacuum there is actually very little heat transfer in space, its like the vacuum chamber in a thermos, keeps hot stuff hot and cold stuff cold

as i understand it the very cold effects actually come from water instantly evaporating in the low (zero) air pressure and IIRC the main concern with astronauts on the moon mission was overheating due to the difficulty in venting heat from the suits

No, this isn't right. Space is actually cold.

It is closer to a thermos bottle, true. Since there is no air or anything else, heat is not lost through the usual process of convection -- or in other words, there is no "wind chill" factor in space. But you can still lose heat through blackbody radiation. This is slower, but it still works.

In the thermos bottle, there's no air but the blackbody environment is at the temperature of the thermos' walls. If your thermos is at room temperature, say 300 K, then there's a 300 K blackbody spectrum of emitted light bouncing around inside the bottle. The spectrum thrown off by your food is at a much higher temperature, and thus gives off energy that is absorbed by the outer thermos bottle, giving you a net cooling. The cooling stops when the interior and exterior walls reach the same temperature. A really good thermos bottle tries to limit this effect with low-emissivity coatings, but you can't reduce it to zero, so eventually your soup will get cold.

In space, the thermos bottle is at the interstellar background temperature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_microwave_background) -- 6 K or less. There's no mass in space, but there is a constant bath of photons, and this corresponds to a low temperature -- hence, space is cold. So basically whatever energy you radiate is just plain gone, and you get almost nothing back from the outside. You cool faster. Again, we use low-emissivity coatings extensively, like gold foil, but radiative losses are serious.

In Earth orbit or similar, you are warmed by the sun, on the side facing the sun. Again, reflective, low-emissivity materials help deal with the thermal load. But it is possible, therefore, to be both too hot and too cold at the same time. Many spacecraft spin as they travel in order to try to even this out, something we call "rotisserie mode."

On the Moon you have a different problem. Any point on the Moon gets 14 days of uninterrupted daylight (with sun bouncing off the ground around you as well) followed by 14 days of darkness. In the sun you get pretty warm, but at night it gets nasty cold. Lunar equipment that you want to survive the lunar night needs its own heaters, and typically what we do is pack them with Pu-238 to keep them alive. This is a major concern for a sustained human presence on the Moon.

[Tandem Thinking]

I am confused. Why would flying around the Earth North-South prove the Earth is round, but flying around the Earth from East-West does not??

I was too, but basically, this is the answer:

Well, so far, we've only proved the Earth is a cylinder, obviously!

From what I could glean from the dripping mess of their forum, they believe that flying around the world east to west is possible with a flat earth (don't ask me how)

Has nobody really ever flown all around the earth north-south??

I don't know about flown all the way, but there was an expedition conducted about twenty years ago where people hiked/boated/flew around the earth in the north-south direction.
http://http://www.transglobe-expedition.org/

You think you have seen the best/worst?
try this: (WARNING:EXTREME INSANITY AHEAD!!!) http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum...?topic=11293.0

I guarantee death from laughter,huge hole in wall () and brain death all at the same time.It is not stundie per se,just example.

And I have read that thread about one/one and half year ago...

They is kwazy.

[bonavada]

On the Moon you have a different problem. Any point on the Moon gets 14 days of uninterrupted daylight (with sun bouncing off the ground around you as well) followed by 14 days of darkness. In the sun you get pretty warm, but at night it gets nasty cold. Lunar equipment that you want to survive the lunar night needs its own heaters, and typically what we do is pack them with Pu-238 to keep them alive. This is a major concern for a sustained human presence on the Moon.



What about the Lunar Polar Regions? Don't they have extended light/dark days/nights like the North and South poles regions on earth?

BV

[Klimax]

They is kwazy.

When I originally found it,I read it fully...

I see I provided you with full field day.And imagine that it is possible to have even more gems there...

[sts60]

On the Moon you have a different problem. Any point on the Moon gets 14 days of uninterrupted daylight (with sun bouncing off the ground around you as well) followed by 14 days of darkness. In the sun you get pretty warm, but at night it gets nasty cold. Lunar equipment that you want to survive the lunar night needs its own heaters, and typically what we do is pack them with Pu-238 to keep them alive.
Yep. Which is why the Surveyors didn't last very long (one made it through two day/night cycles, IIRC). In fact, even the Pu heaters used on the solar-powered EASEP experiment deployed by Apollo 11 weren't enough to get it through the lunar night. However, active heaters powered by the RTGs on the subsequent ALSEP experiments (A12, A14-17) kept things mostly going for up to eight years before they were all shut down. The Soviets also did quite well with isotope-powered rovers which literally "clammed up" overnights.
This is a major concern for a sustained human presence on the Moon.
Indeed, especially since we haven't got nearly enough Pu-238, and we quit making it decades ago, and the Russians may or may not be making more which they may or may not sell us (U.S., that is).
What about the Lunar Polar Regions? Don't they have extended light/dark days/nights like the North and South poles regions on earth?
They do, but since only a tiny fraction of the Moon is in constant day or night, you still have to deal with thermal cycling periodically.

Sorry for further thread derailment... but I did start the process by bringing nominating turbonium's LHe claim.

[IMST]

I am confused. Why would flying around the Earth North-South prove the Earth is round, but flying around the Earth from East-West does not??

They claim the Earth to be a circle with the north pole at then center, just like the UN logo. The UN, btw, is in on the conspiracy. Antarctica is fictional as a continent and is in fact an ice wall around the outer ring of the world.

[Klimax]

They claim the Earth to be a circle with the north pole at then center, just like the UN logo. The UN, btw, is in on the conspiracy. Antarctica is fictional as a continent and is in fact an ice wall around the outer ring of the world.

Wait for leprechaun's gold...

[Myron Proudfoot]

are we sure this isn't a joke??? Although I'd pay good money to watch a debate between flat earthers and hollow earthers....

[NobbyNobbs]

You think you have seen the best/worst?
try this: (WARNING:EXTREME INSANITY AHEAD!!!) http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11293.0

I guarantee death from laughter,huge hole in wall (:bwall) and brain death all at the same time.It is not stundie per se,just example.

And I have read that thread about one/one and half year ago...

From that thread, I'd like to nominate one particular post which really did leave me stunned. The poster's name is 17November, and here's his particular conspiracy theory (bolding mine, for emphasis):

Of course, the nuclear atom is a myth on top of a myth. Atoms themselves do not exist at all. It is a false theory of Pythagoras's students Leucippus which Pythagoras learned from secret sects in India when he visited there in the sixth century BC at the behest of the jews in Babylon to spread the worst heresies of the hindus in the West.

I'm still in shock.

[Redtail]

are we sure this isn't a joke??? Although I'd pay good money to watch a debate between flat earthers and hollow earthers....

If it is a joke, hats off to them for commitment.


From that thread, I'd like to nominate one particular post which really did leave me stunned. The poster's name is 17November, and here's his particular conspiracy theory (bolding mine, for emphasis):



I'm still in shock.

I just blurted out loud "HOLYCRAPWTFBBQ!?!??" The students down the hall are still laughing.

ETA: The evil in me wants to show this to my buddy in the Physics Dept. and watch him cry.

[Doctor Evil]

From that thread, I'd like to nominate one particular post which really did leave me stunned. The poster's name is 17November, and here's his particular conspiracy theory (bolding mine, for emphasis):

Of course, the nuclear atom is a myth on top of a myth. Atoms themselves do not exist at all. It is a false theory of Pythagoras's students Leucippus which Pythagoras learned from secret sects in India when he visited there in the sixth century BC at the behest of the jews in Babylon to spread the worst heresies of the hindus in the West.
I'm still in shock.

I think we can close for this month. Hell, this is more than enough for the next year.

[Grizzly Bear]

From that thread, I'd like to nominate one particular post which really did leave me stunned. The poster's name is 17November, and here's his particular conspiracy theory (bolding mine, for emphasis):



I'm still in shock.

I-I-I-I just don't have words for this... Are my eyes reading that right?
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8657/2yl1moj.jpg

[Mel Odious]

I nominate this whole f***ing thread for a Stundie award. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57761)

It isn't easy to pick out a short "stand alone" quote in that thread for a legitimate Stundie nomination. The following bit from the OP will have to do:

Perhaps there was some symbolisms important to people who had an interest in aligning events with astronomical objects. These ones I'll have to look more into

1... Mercury rising = Flight 11 impact time
2... Spica rising = Flight 77 Pentagon impact time
3... bright stars Regulus in Leo, Spica in Virgo, Arcturus in Bootes allegedly designed into Washington DC plan
4... Jupiter between the bodies of the twins of Gemini
5... Rising of Jupiter and Gemini's Castor both at around 1:10 am

[Stich2306]

Stich2306 and 1337m4n, can you post links so we can see those in context? I know you can't post links yet Stich, but if you leave off the http bit we should be able to see plain text.

Thanks!


Here it is:

://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1288804/1/

[funk de fino]

Christopher 7 claims that the first intact floor in the WTC tower had only the weight of one floor applied to it when the top section fell on it.

The weight of one floor was suddenly applied to the intact floor below, not the weight of 12 or 29.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4527466#post4527466

[Klimax]

From that thread, I'd like to nominate one particular post which really did leave me stunned. The poster's name is 17November, and here's his particular conspiracy theory (bolding mine, for emphasis):



I'm still in shock.

I see, somebody found highest point of the thread...

[Klimax]

My best quotes from thread:
The atomic hysteria of the late 1940's and 1950's and today is not only propaganda for obvious political purposes. It is an attempt to maintain the Rutherfordian concept of a nuclear atom. At the height of this propaganda in the 1950's, Dewey Larson wrote an expose of the basis of the myth - the idea that atoms are composed of lesser substances called protons, neutrons, and electrons.

Of course, the nuclear atom is a myth on top of a myth. Atoms themselves do not exist at all. It is a false theory of Pythagoras's students Leucippus which Pythagoras learned from secret sects in India when he visited there in the sixth century BC at the behest of the jews in Babylon to spread the worst heresies of the hindus in the West.

Major de Seversky stated that although he had heard some rumor of radioactive infected persons, he did not encountre even one such person. He interviewed many staff and patients at the Hiroshima Hospital in addition to many medical and other workers sent to assist in the aftermath. Although some of them had also heard this rumor, NONE OF ANY OF THESE PERSONS HAD EVER ENCOUNTERED EVEN SINGLE A PERSON INFECTED WITH RADIOACTIVITY.

The explosions depicted in these photographs are simply explosions of large bombs, missiles, and in some instances large smoke bombs. One can judge the size of these bombs and the blast that they create by virtue of the fact that trees or other objects such as island shores and hilltops which give at least a relative idea of size are located nearby. Hardly the kind of blast in any of these photos which leaves no building within a 46-kilometre diametre unaffected (!)

I do believe in aether, but a numbre of scientists from the late seventeenth to early twentieth centuries believed in both aether and atoms so aether can hardly be said to "replace" atoms. POSSIBLY YOU HAVE CONFUSED ATOMS WITH ELEMENTS which are two different concepts. Neither myself nor Duhem nor to my knowledge any scientist with any reason in all history ever claimed that elements do not exist. Duhem and other scientists before him composed very learned chemical texts which knew nothing of atoms. I can vouch for Duhem as I have seen some of his chemical treatises in French at libraries.

Things are not built of atoms as atoms are merely a false theory.

Matter is composed of elements. I would think we would at least agree on that.

I am not an authority on chemistry either, but I have looked into enough to know who my authorities would be if I ever wanted to dig deeper.

From first three pages... All by single poster,17 November.

[Dave Rogers]

ETA: The evil in me wants to show this to my buddy in the Physics Dept. and watch him cry.

Different Physics department, but I've seen it, and I'm crying with laughter.

Dave

[EvilBiker]

I see, somebody found highest point of the thread...


It was seriously difficult to miss - the intense stupid emanating from that statement acts like a homing beacon. I also came on-thread to nominate the exact same phrase.

[Klimax]

Second row:
Lactantius, teacher at the court of Constantine the Great and tutor of the Emperor's son, exposed the ridiculousness of atomism back in the fourth century AD. Having been introduced into the Hellenic world by Leuccipus and Democritus the poisonous philosophy spread to its greatest extent in the ancient West under the aegis of Epicureanism, which is apparently an appropriate epithet for Galileo.

I do not have to counter several decades of observation. Notwithstanding propaganda to the contrary, atoms have simply not been observed.

You should ask yourself why it is so difficult to dispell this cultic belief which you cling to religiously and fanatically. It is like believing in the rapture. As a matter of fact, Edward Irving and John Darby's rapture cult outdates the cult of Lord Rutherford's nuclear atom.

The photographs above obviously display something composed of smaller things (is it even something small for all you know or are you going by faith?). There is light shning on only one side of the blue domes indicating that they are big enough to be divisible as they have at least two halves. THE OBJECTS IN YOUR POSTED PHOTOGRAPHS ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT INDIVISIBLY SMALL AND FAIL TO QUALIFY AS ATOMS BY DEFINITION. (That being said, for all we know the objects displayed are half-used morning pill packets.) I find you very gullible to believe that a so-called electron microscope or any kind of microscope can discern an indivisibly small object. It could not do this even if such objects existed.

This assumption of Einstein's is something which I do not even find credible. Energy does NOT equal mass times the alleged speed of light squared. E does not = mc2 any more than E=mc3 or E=mc10. Many of you are swayed by numbers as they SOUND authoritative, but your science is full of holes on closer inspection.

There are only four irreducuble elements: Earth, Water, Air, and Fire (from heaviest to lightest). The multiplicity you refer to is a result of combinations of these four. Wood, for example, floats on water in spite of the fact that earth is heavier than water because wood contains a great deal of fire hidden within it. I do not in anyway way endorse Taoism (a demonic religion) but merely point out that Fu Hsi knew this fact thousands of years ago as recorded in I Ching.

Classical physics partly twists and misunderstands aether. However, by teaching that aether does not exist, the followers of Michelson and Einstein are alienated from ancient works of science and further prevented from understanding them due to the rigidity of their faith (and misunderstnading)that aether does not exist at all. Certain of the ancients (especially the ancient and eastern Christians and the most ancient pagans) understood aether as something very simlar to fire. This obviously has nothing to do with what an allegedly heliocentric Earth travels through and is therefore unnecessary to the subject of heliocentrism.

The purpose of the fallout shelters, the supercollider, and quite a few former and active military bases were actually destined and built for is the same plan which William Pabst described back in 1979 in his essay 'Concentration Camp Plans For US Citizens'

In a few details, he has even provided marvelous information such as the great mountain in the north around which the sun revolves once a day and whose shadow creates night in the half of the world opposite from the sun. Now I already knew about this mountain and even believed in it. It is not mentioned by Rowbotham but rather by ancient flat earth writers like the Christian monk from Egypt Cosmas Indicopleustes in his sixth century book.

And beware.It will have sequel!!!

I rest my case...

[Klimax]

Different Physics department, but I've seen it, and I'm crying with laughter.

Dave

I recommend to send out the link.

It was seriously difficult to miss - the intense stupid emanating from that statement acts like a homing beacon. I also came on-thread to nominate the exact same phrase.

See rest I quoted.

[Klimax]

I got my money back from them already bro.

Israel doesn't have an economy.

Well I take that back. Their economy consists of organized crime, ecstasy trafficking uzi trafficking, prostitution rings, child porn rings etc. There economy is based on terror, crime, and war. You would think that in land where jesus, muhammad and moses once set foot, they would treat as such, you know, a HOLY place?

...

I present you another fine post for nomination...

[ArmillarySphere]

But at least you know he's not an antisemite... you can't hate a thing that doesn't exist! :rolleyes:

[Klimax]

But at least you know he's not an antisemite... you can't hate a thing that doesn't exist! :rolleyes:

Well,you can hate them for not existing.

[Dave Rogers]

Outrageous troll bill smith on Heiwa's $1M offer:

I see wonderful and global potential in this. For one million Heiwa can be as famous as Brunel. The most globally known engineer for centuries. Immortality beckons and a great evil exposed.

I really, genuinely would not want to live in a world where this post could be taken seriously.

Dave

[twinstead]

Outrageous troll bill smith on Heiwa's $1M offer:

I really, genuinely would not want to live in a world where this post could be taken seriously.


It's official: Brunel is rolling over in his grave.

[Dave Rogers]

Well it took bill smith a while to hit mid-season form, but right now he's truly in the zone.

This new approach will reach the parts the old approach did not reach. Every engineer's cafe in the world will have huddles of engineers in conclave. If neccessary the Truth Movement will do a fundraiser to raise the one million for this or for the many other possible challenges that I can foresee being designed.

The truth movement. Doing a fundraiser. And raising money. To the tune of a million dollars. And all to support Heiwa.

There simply are no words.

Dave

[Metullus]

I think I will google "engineer's cafe" so I can find a place to hang out with my slide rule on my belt and pick up chicks...

[dudalb]

March is turning out to be a really outstanding month for Looniness.

[Tandem Thinking]

http://www.libertylive.org/Uploads/shockedMonkey.jpg

Holy crap.
That is some insane woo up there.

It shouldn't be this surprising, coming from a flat earth website, and yet, I feel like his comments killed some of my brain cells.

[Minadin]

I am not an authority on chemistry

He's not kidding.

[Redtail]

Different Physics department, but I've seen it, and I'm crying with laughter.

DaveRats... good point.

[ElMondoHummus]

Second row:

(much snipped)

And beware.It will have sequel!!!

I rest my case...

He's pitching aether theory as legitimate? Did I read that right? And he claims that atoms do not exist?? (*facepalm*).

I do not have a sufficiently epic "FAIL!" jpg in my arsenal for this.

[Klimax]

He's pitching aether theory as legitimate? Did I read that right? And he claims that atoms do not exist?? (*facepalm*).

I do not have a sufficiently epic "FAIL!" jpg in my arsenal for this.

Yes,you read it right and it looks like we will have second Da Stundie from CT-Science sector!

Well,I am sure something could be found on http://failblog.org/ ;)

[dudalb]

We seem to have a nasty outbreak of "Jewish Conspiracy" advocates this month.Another One:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4535659#post4535659

[MarkCorrigan]

I do not have a sufficiently epic "FAIL!" jpg in my arsenal for this.

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/fail-owned-education-fail.jpg

[Travis]

^Awesome.

I forget which forum I found this in originally:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/3009120579_becdc8e2fb_o.jpg

March is going to be tough. I'm gonna have to exclude so much worthy crazy.

[Toke]

Travis,
I have seen that one before.
Must have been nominated some other month, with a snide remark to Library Lady.

[Metullus]

^Awesome.

I forget which forum I found this in originally:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/3009120579_becdc8e2fb_o.jpg

March is going to be tough. I'm gonna have to exclude so much worthy crazy.That one has to be a joke, right?

[Redtail]

I do not have a sufficiently epic "FAIL!" jpg in my arsenal for this.

http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/fail-owned-action-comics-fail.jpg

[Travis]

Travis,
I have seen that one before.
Must have been nominated some other month, with a snide remark to Library Lady.

Oh I'm not nominating it. In fact I first posted this on this forum like six months ago so it'd be way out of date.

That one has to be a joke, right?

I sure hope so.

[proudnonbbeliever]

[There are only four irreducuble elements: Earth, Water, Air, and Fire (from heaviest to lightest). The multiplicity you refer to is a result of combinations of these four. Wood, for example, floats on water in spite of the fact that earth is heavier than water because wood contains a great deal of fire hidden within it. I do not in anyway way endorse Taoism (a demonic religion) but merely point out that Fu Hsi knew this fact thousands of years ago as recorded in I Ching. ]

FAIL - chinese philosophy of matter comprised of five elements, four was greek.

Nitpickin i know, but if theyre gonna woo they could do a little more research on their woo.

[T.A.M.]

Referring to the WTC debris piles...

There is no other explanation for the molten steel in the debris piles. There were no other metals in concentration under all three buildings.

from here

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=117236&page=54

And believe it or not, he said it twice in the same thread.

TAM:)

[Elizabeth I]

I forget which forum I found this in originally:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/3009120579_becdc8e2fb_o.jpg


FACEPALM. >>crossing fingers and hoping it's a joke.<<

[TjW]

Parky76 found it, but I can't resist nominating it:



http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1386578/1/

In 2007 George Carlin offered his support to the 9/11 truth movement, seen here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pow5_UYKaJ8

A year later he dies from supposed "heart failure" However this was a man who had already had 3 non-fatal heart attacks. Heart attacks get less dangerous every time you have one so it's impossible that this is what would have killed him.

A number of drugs can cause what seems to be a heart attack but no toxicology report was ever made public which proves that they where trying to hide something about his blood work.

At the same time Carlin has all ways been a strong opponent against big religions which are the main tool for control utilized by the Babylonian Brotherhood (which George Bush among others is a confirmed member of) Especially Judaism with the Mossad which is one of the main factions the Babylonian Brotherhood uses to control the worlds governments together with the "global elite" Carlin was never meant to be rich and influential which is why he has always been a thorn in the side of the illuminati and when he started to lend support to finding out the truth about 9/11 they finally had enough and had him assassinated.

Does anyone else have evidence to help support this so we can find out the entire truth about Carlins death?


The bolding was added by me, and is the actual nomination.

[Travis]

"Heart Attack Your Way to Immortality" in the next Redbook.

[Arus808]

Parky76 found it, but I can't resist nominating it:



http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1386578/1/



The bolding was added by me, and is the actual nomination.


OMG :jaw-dropp ... why doesn't that jerk tell my dad this. He's had four heart attacks; his doctor stated that if he has another one, he will definitely die from it. his heart is so damaged (due to 40 years of smoking and being 200lbs overweight), and the three previous attacks, that he is now just a ticking time bomb.

[Alareth]

FACEPALM. >>crossing fingers and hoping it's a joke.<<



IIRC, that was a pit of parody on the authors part and was admitted farther on in the thread.

[AStone]

Post number 1109 here:

http://www.vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=30382&page=56

This is from the ever-thoughtful, Bernie. It is regarding how he searched the list of 9/11 deaths for Jewish names. His emphasis.

I also discovered an anomaly with my list which really floored me:

There were TEN (10) Alphabet letter missing list from the final list, most notably the letter A. Think about it, imagine you rounded up at random 3000 Office worker types in Manhattan on any day: How many would have names like Abrahams, Abrams, Adler, Abromovich etc etc?

And, the one I nominate:

76 Jews out of 3,000 is around 2.7%. If the Jew York Jewish population is say, 20% there should have been 600 Jews killed in those buildings. That just 76 were murdered that day (as tragic as that surely is for them and their families) simply tell me that this was an INSIDE JOB involving Jews from top to bottom and they managed to save as many of theirs as they could.

Truffers are bad enough, but you gotta love racist truffers even more.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

<offtopic>

IIRC, that was a pit of parody on the authors part and was admitted farther on in the thread.


Apparently so: Original thread (http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=648654). Admission of parody (http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=648654&page=2#post8374211).

</offtopic>

[Tandem Thinking]

Jew York

Jew York? If I knew he was joking, I'd call that the most hilarious thing I've ever heard, but he's made it perfectly clear that he's serious.

20%? he should try considering that even w/ it's high tendency for errors, wikipedia can still be good for some things:

About 12% of New Yorkers are Jewish or of Jewish descent and roots.

I knew research was too much for twoofers to handle, but wikipedia?
I think I just cried a little inside.

[Corsair 115]

March is turning out to be a really outstanding month for Looniness.


Now you know why they call it 'March Madness'. :D

[Horatius]

Haven't posted a nom in a while, but this just got to me. esopxe On LCF: (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=202259&t=1362513)


To be honest, it's hard to prove that some of the place's are "FEMA camps" without making some assumptions. Some of these camps don't even exist as far as what I've found. An example is the supposed FEMA camp in Okanogan County in Washington State. I live in Washington, and not too far from there, so it concerns me if it does exist or not. Last week I spent about 2-3 hours looking on Google Earth for anything camp like and I spent an hour or two searching for documents or pictures on the Internet. I found absolutely nothing. I don't think it's there. All I found was the same thing over and over.



So, you live close to what is described as:

a site for a massive concentration camp capable of holding hundreds of thousands of people for slave labor.


...but you don't go for a drive to see if you can find it....you just Google about a bit. And these guys think they can start an actual revolution? :boggled:

[Toke]

Last week I spent about 2-3 hours looking on Google Earth
Clear proof that google earth is in on it.:D

[Travis]

Jew York? If I knew he was joking, I'd call that the most hilarious thing I've ever heard, but he's made it perfectly clear that he's serious.

20%? he should try considering that even w/ it's high tendency for errors, wikipedia can still be good for some things:

I knew research was too much for twoofers to handle, but wikipedia?
I think I just cried a little inside.

Ahh, but you looked up the demographic figures for New York. He's talking about Jew York.

Clear proof that google earth is in on it.:D

Of course they are. They pixelated the Vice President's house and like half of the Netherlands!

[Dave Rogers]

I like this piece of blatant confirmation bias from bill smith.

No other video I have seen provides the clarity and certainty of no rotation as this one does.

Because, of course, all the other videos show there was rotation, but one video that doesn't appear to show it trumps them all.

Dave

[Horatius]

From the current thread on tax protesters, kageki attempts to pwn Wildcat, and fails miserably:

Further proof of my theorem "Any web site with "truth" in the name is full of lies".

What about in the title?

The Truth About Frivolous Tax Arguments
http://www.irs.gov/taxpros/article/0,,id=159853,00.html


...by citing a website that doesn't have "truth" in it's name. Title =/= name, just in case you didn't know.

[NobbyNobbs]

Parky76 found it, but I can't resist nominating it:



http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1386578/1/



The bolding was added by me, and is the actual nomination.

Sorry to burst the bubble, but the sameposter, later on in the thread, says:

Yeah okay I pulled the whole thing out of my arse. I havent been too active in the truth movement in the last few years but I heard a lot of rumors that it had been pretty deeply infiltrated by neo-nazis and when I saw that this place had even put up a mossad forum I just had to give it a test.

See how much ************ people would eat up as long as you held the jewish carrot in front of them.

[16.5]

Loose Change continues to lead to the lulz. Financial wiz kid Andre asks “How much did Blackstone profit from WTC7?” Then manages to completely confuse Blackstone (the lender) with Silverstein (the borrower), but the Stundie is here:

“Note: $861 million insurance settlement - $383 million debt on WTC 7 = $478 million dollar profit!”

Hmmmm, now what might be missing from this calculation? Oh yeah, a 47 story skyscraper that cost $700 million to rebuild.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1385459/1/

[Tandem Thinking]

Ahh, but you looked up the demographic figures for New York. He's talking about Jew York.

Silly me. :D

[Sunstealer]

There is no evidence of temperatures over 250°C, just speculation. The report says:
NCSTAR 1-3 pg 101
Based on microstructural analysis of the recovered structural steel, there was no evidence indicating that the pre-collapse fires were severe enough at [to] affect the steel microstructure of these pieces. Based upon this evidence, it is believed that no steel was recovered which experienced temperature excursions above 600°C for any length of time as the result of pre-collapse fires.

This does NOT say any of the steel reached 600°C, only that microstructural analysis indicates that it did not exceed 600°C.

Reading comprehension fail - temperature excursions above 600°C for any length of time automatically transform into "microstructural analysis indicates that it did not exceed 600°C."

[Travis]

Sorry to burst the bubble, but the sameposter, later on in the thread, says:

Damn! I was already trying to figure out a funny way to introduce that one.

[Dave Rogers]

Our newly-arrived self-proclaimed dissident NIST employee is only on 32 posts, but he's overdue for his debut here on present form.

Most people never understand the criteria and the processes for what it takes for melting, softening or enabling molecules in the steel to "flow", there is a lot to it, needless to say.

Clearly, just heating things above their melting point doesn't even begin to make them flow; there's so much more to it than that.

Dave

[TjW]

Well, up until now I didn't think he worked for the government, but with the redundancy of "melting, softening, or enabling molecules in the steel to 'flow'", I may have to reconsider.

[Toke]

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4550854#post4550854

Originally Posted by Architect
I've never designed a building to resist an aircraft impact in my life.
All architects and designers normally do this, especially in areas of heavy congestions, near flight paths, in l;arge cities and towns. Civil engineering rules and regulations make this to be manadatory, in the same way as fire escapes are mandatory in public buildings. Trying to do research in the areas of design, architecture, building safety requirements, and numerous other areas. google away or visit a library near you for more detailed information.
My bolding.

Good that someone can tell architects what their job is.:D

[Disbelief]

Our newly-arrived self-proclaimed dissident NIST employee is only on 32 posts, but he's overdue for his debut here on present form.



Clearly, just heating things above their melting point doesn't even begin to make them flow; there's so much more to it than that.

Dave

Maybe just post a link to his posting history, as practically all of his posts are stundie-worthy.

[Ohnoes]

I didn't even think about nominating this until dudalb mentioned it!

I made a topic about it here
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=138459

Nomination!
The truck driver also admitted “Each burial vault holds four caskets.” I took note that if caskets were not used you could fit 40 bodies or more in each one.

So if these were to hold four troops each and the truck driver did know what he was talking about; this would mean that there are plans in advance for over 4000 U.S. soldiers deaths.

If these are not to contain caskets and only bodies are inserted there could be room for over 40,000 civilians bodies.

I never even noticed when I made the first post that it was the authors friend and not even the author himself lol.

I almost wanted to nominate this one, but I liked the numbers one better.

From the satellite view there appears to be more sections that have been covered with the concrete lids and backfilled to look as if nothing is there.

[T.A.M.]

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4550854#post4550854



My bolding.

Good that someone can tell architects what their job is.:D

I don't think we should be allowed to use the good old professor for stundie quotes...kind of like shooting fish in a barrel.

TAM:)

[Metullus]

I don't think we should be allowed to use the good old professor for stundie quotes...kind of like shooting fish in a barrel.

TAM:)I was about to say the same thing. It's a little like nominating Christophera...

[Toke]

I don't think we should be allowed to use the good old professor for stundie quotes...kind of like shooting fish in a barrel.

TAM:)

Try think of his nominations as a supplement to the "really funny jokes tread".

You don´t have to vote for him, just enjoy.

[AStone]

I retract my previous nomination. This thread leaves me speechless:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread448905/pg1

One of the many, many jems: I anticipate an objection. The objection is that there are no peer reviewed scientific physical evidence of UFO’s, therefore any scientific evidence that is not peer reviewed must be dismissed. This argument is invalid, because it commit’s the fallacy of appealing to an authority of some entity(a peer group) If some authority dismisses a scientists evidence, it does not mean that the scientists evidence is false, it simply means the authority doesn't like it.

[240-185]

Holy sheet, we are still alive! (first post) (http://www.sceptiques.qc.ca/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=5644&start=0)

[...]je prédit la 3 e guerre mondial (nucléaire) pour 2009, pourquoi pas pour mars et même le 25

which means:

[...]I predict the nuclear World War III for 2009, why not for March, even the 25th...

Seems that I missed something.
But at the time I'm writing this post, Alaska and Samoa Islands are still on the 25th of March.

[JamesB]

I don't know if horribly stupid metaphors count for a stundie, but here is Richard Gage, giving an interview to Willis Carto's American Free Press:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/911architectsfortruth_32509.html

“Where did the ‘pancakes’ go?” AFP then asked Gage, referring to the government’s “pancake” theory, wherein the heavy collapsing floors from the top overwhelmed the structure below and “pancaked” down to the bottom. Counting both towers, 220 floors were missing on that “Black Tuesday.”

“That’s what we’re looking for is pancakes,” he replied. “We’ve got the ‘syrup,’ we have no pancakes. The ‘syrup’ is the molten metal.”

[Horatius]

MXW, discussing the list of the "Top 10 CTs"


Half of those aren't even conspiracy theories! They're facts! Truth!

[Horatius]

And he just gets better:

I'm gonna make the bold statement that as more of the current events transpire, the more and more the "Protocols of the learned elders of zion" becomes more Prophetic.

Notice how the Jews weren't on the list? You know why? Because it's not a conspiracy! It's the cold hard factual truth!

[Travis]

I retract my previous nomination. This thread leaves me speechless:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread448905/pg1

One of the many, many jems:If some authority dismisses a scientists evidence, it does not mean that the scientists evidence is false, it simply means the authority doesn't like it.

*smacks head* Why do people continue to think scientists are like a town committee selecting new slogans for their summer festival?

[Alferd_Packer]

You all might find this quote from "old1" amusing:

If baby "O" has a Hawaii BC it proves nothing. Hawaii was a brand new State in 1961 and issued BCs to just about any person that walked up to the window with a child under the age of consent. You know Hawaii is a group of islands some big others small. Well the locals on the small islands got around on dugout canoes. Sometimes it took months to paddle a kid to the main island to get some white man's paper filled out. The new states workers were probably less than efficient and could have cared less if they registered a foreigner as a Hawaiian.

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/T74KJF1AU0F6T1LLO/p16#c365

Yep, they were pretty backwards der in dem islands.

[defaultdotxbe]

Yep, they were pretty backwards der in dem islands.
well its not like they were the home port of the US Navy's Pacific Fleet or anything...

[Horatius]

well its not like they were the home port of the US Navy's Pacific Fleet or anything...



You do realize someone will try to tie this into the Pearl Harbor LIHOP nonsense, don't you?

[Mr.D]

You all might find this quote from "old1" amusing:


If baby "O" has a Hawaii BC it proves nothing. Hawaii was a brand new State in 1961 and issued BCs to just about any person that walked up to the window with a child under the age of consent. You know Hawaii is a group of islands some big others small. Well the locals on the small islands got around on dugout canoes. Sometimes it took months to paddle a kid to the main island to get some white man's paper filled out. The new states workers were probably less than efficient and could have cared less if they registered a foreigner as a Hawaiian.
http://www.topix.net/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/T74KJF1AU0F6T1LLO/p16#c365

Yep, they were pretty backwards der in dem islands.

*blink* :jaw-dropp *blink*

[Travis]

It seems there are some who just can't handle the idea of a black man being an actual US citizen.

[Mel Odious]

If there were a "Stundie Pith Award" then this one would be a sure winner:


"Golden" presented a NASA scientist lecturing on physics. Why can't you learn anything from him?


two words: NASA


The NASA scientist, of course, being Ryan Mackey.

Found at the DI Forums. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=888398&postcount=19)

[Arus808]

You all might find this quote from "old1" amusing:



http://www.topix.net/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/T74KJF1AU0F6T1LLO/p16#c365

Yep, they were pretty backwards der in dem islands.


omg..he can't even get the day of our statehood correct ( Aug 21, 1959 btw). And hawaii had been using the United States process of birth records and notification since 1900; my Grandfather's birth certificate looks like a US BC, and he was born in 1912. Only his BC says the Territory of Hawaii, but because Hawaii was a territory of the US, even he, if he wanted to, could run for President of the US as he is recognized as a full US legal citizen.

[Tomblvd]

In a thread (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4353393&postcount=246) on the "dangers" of fluoride, kageki espoused:


If something is toxic then it's toxic. Why would the amount matter? It's still toxic isn't it?

Some helpful souls brought up the obvious water example, but even that wasn't enough to pry him from his erroneous opinion.

I know it isn't as outrageous as some of the other nominations, but for someone with a science background, its enough to make your eyes bleed.

[Dr Adequate]

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/oz.htm

THE WIZARD OF OZ AND ILLUMINATI MIND CONTROL

The history behind the Wizard of Oz programming is interesting. It suggests that the Wizard of Oz has had an important part in the occult world all along. One of the secrets of the Mystery Religions, especially the Egyptian Isis mystery religion was the ability to use drugs and torture to create multiple personalities. The word Oz is known to have been used by its author as an abbreviation for Osirus. Monarch victims have the “golden penis of Osirus” placed into them. The Grimm brothers, who were cabalistic jews, gathered the folk occult stories together.

[...]

With the numerous long term connections between the Wizard of Oz books, and movie to the highest levels of the occult world, it is not without reason that one can theorize that the original series of 14 Oz books had an ulterior motive behind them. ... The 14 books came out in various editions. The originals came out in 1900 and shortly thereafter. In the 1930s, the 1940’s, and the 1950’s the words were retype set and given different pages. (When working with a survivor it might help to identify what decade the edition the slave was programmed with, because the pictures and the page numbers varied from edition to edition.) Of course, having good pictures is an asset in programming, because the child will visualize off of the pictures when building its internal world. In addition to this, large Wizard of Oz theme parks are being built by the Illuminati to provide places to carry out programming and to reinforce the programming which traps the minds of Monarch slaves.

[Elizabeth I]

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/oz.htm

THE WIZARD OF OZ AND ILLUMINATI MIND CONTROL

The history behind the Wizard of Oz programming is interesting. It suggests that the Wizard of Oz has had an important part in the occult world all along. One of the secrets of the Mystery Religions, especially the Egyptian Isis mystery religion was the ability to use drugs and torture to create multiple personalities. The word Oz is known to have been used by its author as an abbreviation for Osirus. Monarch victims have the “golden penis of Osirus” placed into them. The Grimm brothers, who were cabalistic jews, gathered the folk occult stories together.

[...]

With the numerous long term connections between the Wizard of Oz books, and movie to the highest levels of the occult world, it is not without reason that one can theorize that the original series of 14 Oz books had an ulterior motive behind them. ... The 14 books came out in various editions. The originals came out in 1900 and shortly thereafter. In the 1930s, the 1940’s, and the 1950’s the words were retype set and given different pages. (When working with a survivor it might help to identify what decade the edition the slave was programmed with, because the pictures and the page numbers varied from edition to edition.) Of course, having good pictures is an asset in programming, because the child will visualize off of the pictures when building its internal world. In addition to this, large Wizard of Oz theme parks are being built by the Illuminati to provide places to carry out programming and to reinforce the programming which traps the minds of Monarch slaves.

Huh? Is this an example of Poe's law?

[Dr Adequate]

Huh? Is this an example of Poe's law? The American Patriot Friends Network appears to be the motherlode of stupid.

From 9/11 to gold fringe on flags, from government scientists creating HIV to the Oklahoma City bombing, from the USS Liberty to FEMA death camps, if it's dumb, they believe it.

They've just never met a stupid idea they didn't like.

[Travis]

it is not without reason that one can theorize that the original series of 14 Oz books had an ulterior motive behind them.

No....actually it is without reason.

Someone needs to raid the failblog for something suitable.

[Dr Adequate]

http://www.whale.to/b/11_h.html

Mel Gibson is a THEM. In his movie, THE PATRIOT, his first words are, when weighing a chair, in the film, are: "9 pounds, eleven ounces...perfect." This was a message to many CIA operatives and the elite, that plans were going forward. The agency constantly controls Hollywoood. They used Mel all the time, when they want to sell IT BIG. So, look at Mel's movies from '90 onward, and you'll see how this is done. Cuz when the illuminati want to do it BIG, they always say, "get Mel Gibson."

[Grizzly Bear]

Double stundie from a single post...

Please :cool: I do have a knowledge of design and construction but that is not necessary. Most housewives if have asked know this.

To recognize that WTC 7 is a CD only requires having seen a few.


The first seems better fit....

[Travis]

http://www.whale.to/b/11_h.html

Mel Gibson is a THEM. In his movie, THE PATRIOT, his first words are, when weighing a chair, in the film, are: "9 pounds, eleven ounces...perfect." This was a message to many CIA operatives and the elite, that plans were going forward. The agency constantly controls Hollywood. They used Mel all the time, when they want to sell IT BIG. So, look at Mel's movies from '90 onward, and you'll see how this is done. Cuz when the illuminati want to do it BIG, they always say, "get Mel Gibson."

I guess that's why Hollywood hates the CIA.:rolleyes:

Double stundie from a single post...


The first seems better fit....

I know housewives are the first place I go when I need to verify design and construction standards.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

http://www.whale.to/b/11_h.html

Mel Gibson is a THEM. In his movie, THE PATRIOT, his first words are, when weighing a chair, in the film, are: "9 pounds, eleven ounces...perfect." This was a message to many CIA operatives and the elite, that plans were going forward. The agency constantly controls Hollywoood. They used Mel all the time, when they want to sell IT BIG. So, look at Mel's movies from '90 onward, and you'll see how this is done. Cuz when the illuminati want to do it BIG, they always say, "get Mel Gibson."


But, but, but... I thought Mel disliked Jews. :confused:

[Christopher7]

Double stundie from a single post...






The first seems better fit....Definitely. It's an obvious truth that you guys refuse to accept. :cool:

[Christopher7]

I guess that's why Hollywood hates the CIA.:rolleyes:

I know housewives are the first place I go when I need to verify design and construction standards.For this one, you could ask a 12 year old.

CD's are very distinctive, easy to recognize, unless you have your head anatomically misplaced.;)

[Cl1mh4224rd]

CD's are very distinctive, easy to recognize, unless you have your head anatomically misplaced.


You seem to have yours off-kilter. You're in the wrong thread for this.

[AJM8125]

Neh, he's trying to ensure a landslide victory.

[Christopher7]

Neh, he's trying to ensure a landslide victory.You got that part right. :D

[Travis]

You got that part right. :D

Okay.:rolleyes:

I'm rooting for ya.;)

[Alferd_Packer]

one more from old1 in the same thread.

A thought for you about conspiracy theories. You ARE NOT PARANOID if there really is someone or something trying to get you!

source (http://www.topix.net/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/T74KJF1AU0F6T1LLO/p17)

Wow, I really like that one :D

[Horatius]

one more from old1 in the same thread.



source (http://www.topix.net/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/T74KJF1AU0F6T1LLO/p17)

Wow, I really like that one :D



Too ban he's just ripping off Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle.

ETA: Besides, a better line is, "When they really are out to get you, paranoia is just common sense!"

[Dr Adequate]

http://www.whale.to/b/11_h.html

Mel Gibson is a THEM. In his movie, THE PATRIOT, his first words are, when weighing a chair, in the film, are: "9 pounds, eleven ounces...perfect." This was a message to many CIA operatives and the elite, that plans were going forward. The agency constantly controls Hollywoood. They used Mel all the time, when they want to sell IT BIG. So, look at Mel's movies from '90 onward, and you'll see how this is done. Cuz when the illuminati want to do it BIG, they always say, "get Mel Gibson." Incidentally, if anyone's seen the movie ... why does he weigh a chair? Is it a Freemason thing?

I've never weighed a chair.

[defaultdotxbe]

Too ban he's just ripping off Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle.

ETA: Besides, a better line is, "When they really are out to get you, paranoia is just common sense!"
a high school english teacher of mine had a poster that said "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you"

[Elizabeth I]

Huh? Is this an example of Poe's law?

The American Patriot Friends Network appears to be the motherlode of stupid.

From 9/11 to gold fringe on flags, from government scientists creating HIV to the Oklahoma City bombing, from the USS Liberty to FEMA death camps, if it's dumb, they believe it.

They've just never met a stupid idea they didn't like.

The Wizard of Flippin' Oz is part of the Illuminati plot?

[Mr.D]

I know it isn't as outrageous as some of the other nominations, but for someone with a science background, its enough to make your eyes bleed.

I wonder if the anti-fluoridationists' realize that moreso* than any other CT, they are their own worst enemy.





* Yeah, I realize this might be a controversial statement, but who references papers that refute them as supporting evidence more than them?

[Dr Adequate]

For this one, you could ask a 12 year old.

CD's are very distinctive, easy to recognize, unless you have your head anatomically misplaced.;) Yeah. The very very audible explosions are often a clue. Unless, indeed, you are using your ass-cheeks as ear-muffs, in which case you might be blissfully ignorant that there weren't any.

[Rolfe]

* Yeah, I realize this might be a controversial statement, but who references papers that refute them as supporting evidence more than them?


Homoeopaths (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=3463898#post3463898).

Rolfe.

[A W Smith]

psikeyhakr joins the battle creek navy
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4565137&postcount=419

Suppose you had two boxes of Captain Crunch and you hold one in each hand with you arms spread as far as possible. Then you smash them together as hard as you can. Is the box in you left hand going to remain intact and crush the one in your right? Is the box in you right hand going to remain intact and crush the one in your left? NO! They are both going to get crushed. That is going to consume energy in both.

[Mr.D]

Homoeopaths (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=3463898#post3463898).

Rolfe.

I stand (well, technically I'm reclining) corrected.

[Minadin]

Is there anything you could ingest which would not be toxic in large enough quantities?

[quixotecoyote]

psikeyhakr joins the battle creek navy
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4565137&postcount=419

Without surrounding context, that sounds reasonable.

If I take two identical objects and smash them together in an absolutely symmetrical fashion, both will likely suffer similar damage, and yes, energy will be used in the process.

[Travis]

Without surrounding context, that sounds reasonable.

If I take two identical objects and smash them together in an absolutely symmetrical fashion, both will likely suffer similar damage, and yes, energy will be used in the process.

Too bad we know what he was trying to refer to.

[quixotecoyote]

Too bad we know what he was trying to refer to.

Too bad?

It makes a poor stundie quote unless you pull that referent in.

[Minadin]

Here's a whopper:

I like my equation PE<SE

Anyone familiar with maths? Well, not Heiwa.

[Dave Rogers]

Less than ten posts, and already SteveAustin is demonstrating his mastery of the decibel scale.

I'm going to assume you mistyped that...twice, since a reduction of "two thirds" of 140 is a reduction of about 93, not a reduction of 4, which would bring it down to about 47DB.

One for the geeky.

Dave

[1337m4n]

Anyone familiar with maths? Well, not Heiwa.

Potential Energy is less than...standard error?

[dudalb]

I don;t think it is quite Stundie worthy, but Skeptic Guy's attempts in his Top Ten Conspiracy Theory thread in this section to prove that the 9/11 Truth is not a conspiracy theory are quite amusing.

[Grizzly Bear]

Less than ten posts, and already SteveAustin is demonstrating his mastery of the decibel scale.



One for the geeky.

Dave

I like it even more when they demonstrate their mastery and say nothing more when it falls flat on its face

[Alferd_Packer]

Less than ten posts, and already SteveAustin is demonstrating his mastery of the decibel scale.

=>I'm going to assume you mistyped that...twice, since a reduction of "two thirds" of 140 is a reduction of about 93, not a reduction of 4, which would bring it down to about 47DB. <=


One for the geeky.

Dave

I must be a geek, because I understand your issue with that.

[BenBurch]

I nominate MHaze for this post in the Science, Mathematics, Medicine, and Technology topic;

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4568086&postcount=562

Supreme irony here, folks; He is a "AGW is a scam" CTer who rails about the "Religion of global warming" and repeatedly changes his story as we corner him on his mis-statements of fact, and then has the NERVE to accuse somebody else of goalpost shifting!

:dl:

[Horatius]

I'm pretty sure at this point he's just trolling, but I'll nominate this one anyways:



Infowars is no different from foxnews or CNN, or the New York times. It's a little bit on the fear mongering side but sometimes I like my news that way, depends on what mood I'm in.

[Klimax]

I'm pretty sure at this point he's just trolling, but I'll nominate this one anyways:

Are you sure at this point? I think he did it from beginning.

[Horatius]

Are you sure at this point? I think he did it from beginning.



I meant that this was the point I've come to the conclusion he's trolling. If I'm right, that would mean he's been trolling all along. This post was just the one that confirmed it for me.

[KDLarsen]

Has nobody really ever flown all around the earth north-south??
Better late than never, but in fact one aircraft has: Clipper New Horizons flew Pan Am flight 50 to celebrate Pan Am's 50th anniversary, on a trip that went from San Francisco, over the North Pole to London, down to Cape Town, over the South Pole to Auckland, and finally back to San Francisco.

Incidently the same aircraft had also flown around the world a few years earlier, routing New York-New Delhi-Tokyo-New York.

[Minadin]

Here's a whopper:



Anyone familiar with maths? Well, not Heiwa.


I'm a bit worried that the reason this didn't make the finals was that people didn't understand that the reason I suggested it was that an equation, as a basic math idea, requires that there be two statements that equal each other. I don't really care how he defines his variables here; he demonstrates a complete disregard or ignorance of basic math concepts.

[Travis]

I'm a bit worried that the reason this didn't make the finals was that people didn't understand that the reason I suggested it was that an equation, as a basic math idea, requires that there be two statements that equal each other. I don't really care how he defines his variables here; he demonstrates a complete disregard or ignorance of basic math concepts.

Yeah.......that was it.:boxedin:

I'm a math retard, sorry.

[Minadin]

I don't blame you, Travis - it was a banner month for stupid woo.