View Full Version : You stop being a Jew if you support Likud
Thunder
1st March 2009, 06:19 PM
Why do soo many right-wing Zionist Jews feel that if you do not support Israeli right-wing agendas, such as expanding settlements, keeping settlements, and discriminating against non-Jews...you are therefore not a real Jew??
:(
quixotecoyote
1st March 2009, 06:27 PM
They do that, do they?
Or alternatively:
I Know! Why do so many [group I dislike] believe [things so obviously wrong that everyone should agree with me].
paximperium
1st March 2009, 07:07 PM
Why do certain individuals believe that by airing their lack of balls by using insinuations and weaseling statements that somehow they would somehow gain support for their nonsense?
Roadtoad
1st March 2009, 07:09 PM
I hate to be the one to break it to you, Parky, but the Republicans are pretty much the same way.
fagin
2nd March 2009, 05:42 AM
I don't know, "Why do soo many right-wing Zionist Jews feel that if you do not support Israeli right-wing agendas, such as expanding settlements, keeping settlements, and discriminating against non-Jews...you are therefore not a real Jew??"
Did you ask them all?
Thunder
2nd March 2009, 06:53 AM
I hate to be the one to break it to you, Parky, but the Republicans are pretty much the same way.
what is it about right-wingers?
u don't hear democrats accusing people of treason just because they disagree. only right-wingers do such BS.
Safe-Keeper
2nd March 2009, 07:02 AM
Why do soo many right-wing Zionist Jews feel that if you do not support Israeli right-wing agendas, such as expanding settlements, keeping settlements, and discriminating against non-Jews...you are therefore not a real Jew??For the same reason you're not a "true Christian" if you do or do not hate gays, depending on who you ask.
For the same reason you're told to leave America by certain of her citizens if you disagree with them.
For the same reason Norwegians tell foreigners to complain to shut it because "Norway is a great country and probably way better than where they came from, so stop your feckin' whining".
Certain people just can't stand it when others disagree with them.
Roadtoad
2nd March 2009, 10:55 AM
what is it about right-wingers?
u don't hear democrats accusing people of treason just because they disagree. only right-wingers do such BS.
Well, actually the Dems don't accuse people of treason, but merely of hating, wanting to poison children, or starve seniors and leave them to die in the streets. The extremes of either party do not appeal to me, and sadly, they are the ones you hear the most from.
Non-alignment is starting to sound very good.
paximperium
2nd March 2009, 11:08 AM
Isn't Senator Liebermann a traitor to his party AND a Jew...oh no, the Democrats are anti-semitic!!!
jimtron
2nd March 2009, 11:15 AM
Who gets to define what it means to be a Jew?
Roadtoad
2nd March 2009, 11:17 AM
Not me. Nor am I volunteering for the job.
jimtron
2nd March 2009, 11:28 AM
If people are actually making the argument that Jews are no longer Jews if they support Likud, I would ask them to strictly define what it means to be a Jew, and who gets to make that judgment.
billw
2nd March 2009, 12:03 PM
I've been told that I was no longer a Jew because I didn't believe in G-d.
Besides, I can prove I'm a Jew (no, not that way, circumcision is way too common): I can eat gefilte fish with purple horseradish on it, and not puke.
Roadtoad
2nd March 2009, 12:10 PM
I've been told that I was no longer a Jew because I didn't believe in G-d.
Besides, I can prove I'm a Jew (no, not that way, circumcision is way too common): I can eat gefilte fish with purple horseradish on it, and not puke.
Whoa. I never knew I was Jewish!
billw
2nd March 2009, 12:17 PM
Whoa. I never knew I was Jewish!
Welcome to the tribe!
I should have noted for the record that having been married to a woman of Swedish/Norwegian heritage for almost 30 years, I can also testify that Scandinavians have a similar love affair with disgusting fish products.
We both like herring and pickled onion; what can I say.
Roadtoad
2nd March 2009, 12:20 PM
Welcome to the tribe!
I should have noted for the record that having been married to a woman of Swedish/Norwegian heritage for almost 30 years, I can also testify that Scandinavians have a similar love affair with disgusting fish products.
We both like herring and pickled onion; what can I say.
Oy!
JetLeg
3rd March 2009, 08:53 AM
Why do soo many right-wing Zionist Jews feel that if you do not support Israeli right-wing agendas, such as expanding settlements, keeping settlements, and discriminating against non-Jews...you are therefore not a real Jew??
:(
They do not accept that there is a jewish identity that is different from the jewish identity they have. Partly because of ignorance, partly because of willful ignorance.
westprog
3rd March 2009, 09:08 AM
I've been told that I was no longer a Jew because I didn't believe in G-d.
Well, that at least makes some kind of sense. If Judaism is a religion, then if you don't believe the religion, you aren't a member.
Besides, I can prove I'm a Jew (no, not that way, circumcision is way too common): I can eat gefilte fish with purple horseradish on it, and not puke.
But then, Judaism isn't just a religion - it's a lot of other stuff as well. Really, anyone who claims to be a Jew should be allowed to be one, at least by non-Jews.
Just how Jews should decide who is a real and not a real Jew is clearly a fraught subject. It would be possible to end up with a Phelpsian only-me-and-my-immediate-family-qualify situation.
Safe-Keeper
3rd March 2009, 09:28 AM
I should have noted for the record that having been married to a woman of Swedish/Norwegian heritage for almost 30 years, I can also testify that Scandinavians have a similar love affair with disgusting fish products.I'm hurt. Which of our delicacies could you possibly have an issue with?
Gravlaks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravlaks), the fish that's been prepared by burial in sand or soil until it's fermented?
Lutefisk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutefisk), which has been boiled until it's more slop than fish and basically nearly completely tasteless?
Rákfisk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakfisk), which ferments for several months and is then eaten raw?
I'm stunned by your lack of taste.
:p
PrincessIneffabelle
3rd March 2009, 11:09 AM
I'm hurt. Which of our delicacies could you possibly have an issue with?
Gravlaks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravlaks), the fish that's been prepared by burial in sand or soil until it's fermented?
Lutefisk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutefisk), which has been boiled until it's more slop than fish and basically nearly completely tasteless?
Rákfisk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakfisk), which ferments for several months and is then eaten raw?
I'm stunned by your lack of taste.
:p
After eating that stuff, I'm stunned that you still have a sense of taste.
:p
Roadtoad
3rd March 2009, 03:56 PM
I have no sense of taste. I'm a native Californian.
billw
4th March 2009, 12:06 PM
I have no sense of taste. I'm a native Californian.
Wow, me too! Pass the gravlax, please.
Safe-Keeper
4th March 2009, 12:28 PM
Would you want some gjetost (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunost) with that?
cwalner
4th March 2009, 12:38 PM
I've been told that I was no longer a Jew because I didn't believe in G-d.
Besides, I can prove I'm a Jew (no, not that way, circumcision is way too common): I can eat gefilte fish with purple horseradish on it, and not puke.
That's easy. Try eating Gefilte Fish without the purple horseradish. I am a Jew born in New Jersey, and not even I have been able to master that trick yet.
Vic Vega
4th March 2009, 02:54 PM
Well, that at least makes some kind of sense. If Judaism is a religion, then if you don't believe the religion, you aren't a member.
Judaism doesn't really work like that. I've asked two Rabbis (one Reform, the other Conservative) if you could be Jewish without believing in God. Both told me that you absolutely can and that belief in God is not required.
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