Glenn Beck "can't" debunk FEMA Camps

[Thunder]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/glenn-beck-mentions-fema-camps-on-fox-friends.html

And I know exactly why.

Now that "socialist" Obama is in charge, Republicans and Conservatives left and right are gonna start looking into these "concentration camps" and start yelling left and right that:

"Obama is building Socialist work camps!! Everyone who is against the stimulus package and his Communist budget are gonna be sent to the camps!!!"

And I would not be surprised at all if some influental Congressmen, Senators, and radio talk show hosts start talking about this too.

Conspiracy theorists and right-wing Conservatives are natural allies, especially when a progressive liberal Democrat is in charge.

:mad:

[dudalb]

The "Federal Concentration Camp" woo has
A. Been around forever..this rumor was making the rounds of the "Counterculture" as early as 1969...

B. has been used by both Left and Right Wing Wackjobs equally.

The only new twist is the FEMA angle.

As for Beck, I really think he is going into conspriacy theories big time to try to become something a little different then just another Limbaugh/Hannity wannabe. Limbaugh and Hannity tend to avoid conspiracy theories.(they are smart enough to know better; it's makes you look like a wackjob) leaving the field wide open to Beck.

[JihadJane]

Although immigration is flowing in the other direction at the moment

'Reverse Migration Rocks Mexico'

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4731

mass immigration into the States could pose a serious challenge as global economic collapse deepens. It's easy to see why preparations could be being made for it.

Concern that the camps would be used for domestic enemies in times of probable civil unrest is also understandable. Certain sections of the US ruling elite have showed a fondness for putting their enemies of the moment in cages.

[dudalb]

I see the idea of the US self destructing sends you into raptures of joy.

[JihadJane]

I see the idea of the US self destructing sends you into raptures of joy.

Where did you read that?

[Thunder]

Concern that the camps would be used for domestic enemies in times of probable civil unrest is also understandable. Certain sections of the US ruling elite have showed a fondness for putting their enemies of the moment in cages.

whatever...

like when? whom?

again I say it. whatever....

[Thunder]

I see the idea of the US self destructing sends you into raptures of joy.

Yes I think conspiracy theorists go orgasmic over the thought of the USA falling apart into chaos and anarchy.

Its the only way their insane ideas would ever get real attention.

[LightinDarkness]

As a libertarian, I think Barack Obama is not good for the country. But I nor any other sane person believes in concentration camps, even if we don't like Obama.

I think Beck has figured out that if he becomes a doom monger and plays to conspiracies he'll get a little cult following. Whats interesting is Alex Jones & Co. sense this might be competition so are decrying him as a "corporate media apocalypse siren" - which doesn't make any sense, because hes just saying the same things that wackos like Alex Jones say. Beck just wants to be a prophet of doom like Alex Jones.

Watching turf wars for tin foil hat people is amusing.

[JihadJane]

whatever...

like when? whom?

again I say it. whatever....

When: The Capitalist Dream is unravelling at astonishing speed and there is already economy-related civil unrest in various parts of the world. It is impossible, however, to put a timetable on when things might boil over in the US.

Whom: Angry, hungry, homeless people.

[dudalb]

As a libertarian, I think Barack Obama is not good for the country. But I nor any other sane person believes in concentration camps, even if we don't like Obama.

I think Beck has figured out that if he becomes a doom monger and plays to conspiracies he'll get a little cult following. Whats interesting is Alex Jones & Co. sense this might be competition so are decrying him as a "corporate media apocalypse siren" - which doesn't make any sense, because hes just saying the same things that wackos like Alex Jones say. Beck just wants to be a prophet of doom like Alex Jones.

Watching turf wars for tin foil hat people is amusing.


Exactly. Beck ,on Fox in particular, is now in the wierd situation of being a wannabe on the same network as those he is imitating (Hannity, O Reilly,etc) so he needs a new shtick. I guess he decided that embracing Conspiracy Theories is the way to go.
BTW he has bought into woo economics for some time with his spouting the Anti Fed Reserve crapola.

[Caustic Logic]

Can't or WON'T debunk?

I hear it on the grapevine a camp FEMA has just employed the surgeon who did that torturously painful back surgery on Beck after he came out for Ron Paul. Yes, spinal torture in the FEMA camps, made up in my own mind, but since its alarming, it must be true! Run for the hills! :eye-poppi

[dudalb]

When: The Capitalist Dream is unravelling at astonishing speed and there is already economy-related civil unrest in various parts of the world. It is impossible, however, to put a timetable on when things might boil over in the US.

Whom: Angry, hungry, homeless people.


Boy, you must really have a crappy life to spend so much time looking forward to the end of civilization.

[Gord_in_Toronto]

When: The Capitalist Dream is unravelling at astonishing speed and there is already economy-related civil unrest in various parts of the world. It is impossible, however, to put a timetable on when things might boil over in the US.

Whom: Angry, hungry, homeless people.

Well thank the IPU (Blessed be Her Name) that Communism is in such good shape around the World and we can look forward to North Korea saving us all. :boggled:

[Tandem Thinking]

As a libertarian, I think Barack Obama is not good for the country. But I nor any other sane person believes in concentration camps, even if we don't like Obama.

I think Beck has figured out that if he becomes a doom monger and plays to conspiracies he'll get a little cult following. Whats interesting is Alex Jones & Co. sense this might be competition so are decrying him as a "corporate media apocalypse siren" - which doesn't make any sense, because hes just saying the same things that wackos like Alex Jones say. Beck just wants to be a prophet of doom like Alex Jones.

Watching turf wars for tin foil hat people is amusing.

As a republican, I concur.
But to add: I hope Obama does a good job, even if I don't think he will.
Lord knows, this country needs it.

[Ohnoes]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/glenn-beck-mentions-fema-camps-on-fox-friends.html

And I know exactly why.

Now that "socialist" Obama is in charge, Republicans and Conservatives left and right are gonna start looking into these "concentration camps" and start yelling left and right that:

"Obama is building Socialist work camps!! Everyone who is against the stimulus package and his Communist budget are gonna be sent to the camps!!!"

And I would not be surprised at all if some influental Congressmen, Senators, and radio talk show hosts start talking about this too.

Conspiracy theorists and right-wing Conservatives are natural allies, especially when a progressive liberal Democrat is in charge.

:mad:

One guy in the comments section says he typed FEMA camps into google earth and came up with all these sites. Just like the government to hide them right in front of our faces.

I'm sure the first thing he did was open a bag of popcorn and a soda and start blogging about it instead of getting up and gathering his mob and storming the gates to demand to know what the purpose of those facilities is going to be!:covereyes

[Thunder]

As a libertarian, I think Barack Obama is not good for the country. But I nor any other sane person believes in concentration camps, even if we don't like Obama.

I think Beck has figured out that if he becomes a doom monger and plays to conspiracies he'll get a little cult following. Whats interesting is Alex Jones & Co. sense this might be competition so are decrying him as a "corporate media apocalypse siren" - which doesn't make any sense, because hes just saying the same things that wackos like Alex Jones say. Beck just wants to be a prophet of doom like Alex Jones.

Watching turf wars for tin foil hat people is amusing.

haa!!!

i never thought about that!!

"You can't be the prophet of FEMA camp doom...I am the prophet of FEMA camp doom!!"

lololol

[Thunder]

When: The Capitalist Dream is unravelling at astonishing speed and there is already economy-related civil unrest in various parts of the world.

wow..this really excites you huh???

[fullflavormenthol]

It is almost strange to me that the only thing that makes a conspiracy right or left is the change in an administration. Or in this case a socio-political paradigm shift. I suppose for the time being many of the CT's we will face will be right wing in nature. I geuss I am a purist who wishes that CT's were politic free.:rolleyes:

[Björn Toulouse]

The "Federal Concentration Camp" woo has
A. Been around forever..this rumor was making the rounds of the "Counterculture" as early as 1969........


So true. I spent a week with a drug smuggler during Thanksgiving in 1970 in southern New Mexico and he was going on and on about this "concentration camp" in El Reno, OK, that Nixon (the GWB of the 70's) had set up to round up all of us longhairs and such. I remember wondering about that story on my way back East the next week as my route took me surprisingly right by the El Reno exit off of the Interstate.

This thread prompted me to search out why El Reno was a topic at all back then. According to what I found, it had been a prison for around 35 years before it underwent a name change in 1970 and began to take on a different class of prisoners. Sometimes that's all it takes to cook up a good batch of woo.

It sure is taking the government a long time to "round up" all of the dissidents.

I moved back to that little town in New Mexico a over a year later and learned that my friend had piloted his small dope plane into the ground just after he got back from over the border. He survived, and after his conviction in court later, guess where he ended up?

[JihadJane]

wow..this really excites you huh???

Boy, you must really have a crappy life to spend so much time looking forward to the end of civilization.

Come on boys. Stay with reality and stop your lurid fantasizing.

[Dave Rogers]

Although immigration is flowing in the other direction at the moment

'Reverse Migration Rocks Mexico'

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4731

mass immigration into the States could pose a serious challenge as global economic collapse deepens. It's easy to see why preparations could be being made for it.

:boggled: No, it isn't. What is this, proof by negation? Because foreign immigrants are now leaving the US, the US needs to prepare for an influx of immigrants that it wasn't prepared for or preparing for when they were coming in? Talk about closing the stable door after the horse has bolted; you seem to be suggesting that there aren't any more horses on the market so it's time to start building the stable.

Dave

[Thunder]

Come on boys. Stay with reality and stop your lurid fantasizing.

I sense some projection here.

[dudalb]

Well thank the IPU (Blessed be Her Name) that Communism is in such good shape around the World and we can look forward to North Korea saving us all. :boggled:

You misunderstand Jihad Jane. She hates modern industrial society,period. She seems to have raptures over people going back to a medieval level economy complete with subsisence level agriculture.
Garden Variety Hard Line Marxist are postively rational and moderate compared to Jane.

[dudalb]

So true. I spent a week with a drug smuggler during Thanksgiving in 1970 in southern New Mexico and he was going on and on about this "concentration camp" in El Reno, OK, that Nixon (the GWB of the 70's) had set up to round up all of us longhairs and such. I remember wondering about that story on my way back East the next week as my route took me surprisingly right by the El Reno exit off of the Interstate.

This thread prompted me to search out why El Reno was a topic at all back then. According to what I found, it had been a prison for around 35 years before it underwent a name change in 1970 and began to take on a different class of prisoners. Sometimes that's all it takes to cook up a good batch of woo.

It sure is taking the government a long time to "round up" all of the dissidents.

I moved back to that little town in New Mexico a over a year later and learned that my friend had piloted his small dope plane into the ground just after he got back from over the border. He survived, and after his conviction in court later, guess where he ended up?

Nixon would never have set up concentration camps.
Not when he had Dr Manhatten and The Comedian to handle the problems.:D

[JihadJane]

:boggled: No, it isn't. What is this, proof by negation? Because foreign immigrants are now leaving the US, the US needs to prepare for an influx of immigrants that it wasn't prepared for or preparing for when they were coming in? Talk about closing the stable door after the horse has bolted; you seem to be suggesting that there aren't any more horses on the market so it's time to start building the stable.

Dave

Confusing, isn't it?

Just because they've gone one way doesn't mean they can't come back the other way later. Even as the US joins the Third World it will still be better off than countries already in The Third world.

Well thank the IPU (Blessed be Her Name) that Communism is in such good shape around the World and we can look forward to North Korea saving us all. :boggled:

Maybe no-one's going save us!

I sense some projection here.

My thoughts entirely.

You misunderstand Jihad Jane. She hates modern industrial society,period. She seems to have raptures over people going back to a medieval level economy complete with subsisence level agriculture.
Garden Variety Hard Line Marxist are postively rational and moderate compared to Jane.

You misunderstand JihadJane.

[Thunder]

Jihad- there is no evidence that there are any functioning concentration camps on US soil. and there is no evidence that FEMA is prepared to put away hundreds of thousands..or even millions...of disaffected and rebellious Americans.

no evidence my friend. so stop worrying.

[JihadJane]

Jihad- there is no evidence that there are any functioning concentration camps on US soil. and there is no evidence that FEMA is prepared to put away hundreds of thousands..or even millions...of disaffected and rebellious Americans.

no evidence my friend. so stop worrying.

Parky - are you suggesting that I've claimed there is such evidence? If so, on what grounds?

[Praktik]

Beck pours a little cold water on the high hopes of the infowars crowd. This was greeted by a comment on another board I'm on: "Looks like someone told him to shut up!"

http://www.infowars.com/glenn-beck-backs-off-on-fema-camp-report/

[jaydeehess]

Concern that the camps would be used for domestic enemies in times of probable civil unrest is also understandable. Certain sections of the US ruling elite have showed a fondness for putting their enemies of the moment in cages.

That's true, in Zimbabwe.

[jaydeehess]

.

As for Beck, I really think he is going into conspriacy theories big time to try to become something a little different then just another Limbaugh/Hannity wannabe. Limbaugh and Hannity tend to avoid conspiracy theories.(they are smart enough to know better; it's makes you look like a wackjob) leaving the field wide open to Beck.

They do such a good job of looking like wackjobs they don't need CT's.

[BenBurch]

Glenn Beck probably "can't" walk and chew gum at the same time, either.

[Brainster]

As a libertarian, I think Barack Obama is not good for the country. But I nor any other sane person believes in concentration camps, even if we don't like Obama.

Concentration camps got a bad name in WWII, but at least in theory there is nothing wrong with the concept. If there is another major weather event like Katrina, we need camps where refugees can be concentrated. This is not really controversial, but of course the name conjures up images of barbed wire and machine gun turrets.

[aviolet4u]

Beck pours a little cold water on the high hopes of the infowars crowd. This was greeted by a comment on another board I'm on: "Looks like someone told him to shut up!"


I saw this comment on that infowars url:


About Stewart & Janet

What religion are you?
The same as God-Mind.

What organizations are you affiliated with?
None.

Who do you rely upon to teach you?
Self, Oversoul, and God-Mind.

Are you vegetarians?
No.

Do you believe in channeling and other New Age information?
No, the “New Age” is a government disinformation program designed to keep people from finding the truth.

Are you both still programmed?
Yes. Most programmed people can never expect to be fully deprogrammed in the context of one lifetime, although we actively work on self-deprogramming.

Are you government agents?
If we were, we would not answer this truthfully, so it is a silly question to ask.

Why are you allowed to do the work that you are doing?
There have been many attempts to stop us. It is our mind-patterns that allow us to do our work. At this time, the Illuminati want people to know information about them to help bring them into the public eye.


What the? Are our whole lives best on living in conspiracy within conspiracy? I feel like I'm in a bad Austin Powers movie where there are a whole bunch of Dr. Evils bent on destroying the world...just to show that they can.

If there is a sinister elite they do a good job of controlling everything behind the scenes anyway. What is the purpose of wanting mass hysteria and chaos to ensue? Are they that bored? :eye-poppi

[sleeplessdwarf]

I thought he was laughing at the CTist the night he mentioned the NWO. I use to listen to him at what ever late night hour he was on cnn when I was in the hospital and that was one of the few channels that had quality. I think he is a CTist at heart and will try his luck till he is canned for good.

[dudalb]

Which might not be long the rate he is going.
For once the Prisonplanet people are right: I have no doubt that the Fox executives told him to cool it. But not to "cover" anything up but becuase conspiracy drivel as crazy as that leads to a lot of remotes going into action to change channels at once.

[Dave Rogers]

Confusing, isn't it?

When someone uses a fact as proof of its opposite, that tends to be the result.

Just because they've gone one way doesn't mean they can't come back the other way later.

Your argument is that the US didn't bother to do anything about interning illegal immigrants while they were coming in, but now they're going back it's suddenly become important to set up secret internment camps in case they change their minds later. Brilliant spin, but not much logic.

Dave

[Praktik]

Which might not be long the rate he is going.
For once the Prisonplanet people are right: I have no doubt that the Fox executives told him to cool it. But not to "cover" anything up but becuase conspiracy drivel as crazy as that leads to a lot of remotes going into action to change channels at once.

Really? I dunno the whole supposition that someone told him to "shut up" or "cool it" on the story is a little-far fetched, but at least a Fox executive questioning him on it is a little more plausible than a government NWO man telling a TV anchor what to say...;)

[Ohnoes]

Maybe it's just me but I must have missed the part in the video where he said he was told to back off? Maybe I was to assume since he couldn't debunk it the NWO called him that night (that is why he lost sleep) and told him to back off?:boggled:

I was all ears though when Ron Paul pretty much said he had no evidence that they exist, but I'm sure that can be countered with a good ol "Ron Paul is a good guy so they won't tell him about it." sorta thing.

[jaydeehess]

Concentration camps got a bad name in WWII, but at least in theory there is nothing wrong with the concept. If there is another major weather event like Katrina, we need camps where refugees can be concentrated. This is not really controversial, but of course the name conjures up images of barbed wire and machine gun turrets.


Don't we tend to call those "refuge camps" or "tent cities" or even "shelters" now?

[Whiplash]

Yes I think conspiracy theorists go orgasmic over the thought of the USA falling apart into chaos and anarchy.

Its the only way their insane ideas would ever get real attention.

I'm not even sure that would do it. I think they would be beaten on and told to STFU by the people with sense who were trying to get things done. It'd be highschool all over again for them. (although a great many of them have yet to finish it for the first time).

[dudalb]

Really? I dunno the whole supposition that someone told him to "shut up" or "cool it" on the story is a little-far fetched, but at least a Fox executive questioning him on it is a little more plausible than a government NWO man telling a TV anchor what to say...;)

Advocating conspiracy theories is poison as far as ratings for a nationwide Television show go...on a news network in particular.
In radio, you might find an audience as "America Coast to Coast" shows, but on TV, broadcast of cable, it's consdiered for a host to become an advocate for CT's a sure path to ratings disaster.
Having the occasional kook guest is OK, but for a host to make wack Theories part of his shtick is a big no no in television.

[JihadJane]

When someone uses a fact as proof of its opposite, that tends to be the result.

I wasn't claiming to prove anything.



Your argument is that the US didn't bother to do anything about interning illegal immigrants while they were coming in, but now they're going back it's suddenly become important to set up secret internment camps in case they change their minds later. Brilliant spin, but not much logic.

Dave

No, that isn't my argument. I didn't suggest any connection between the two events. Additionally, neither I nor the article I cited said that the returning immigrants entered the US illegally. Here's what I said:

Although immigration is flowing in the other direction at the moment mass immigration into the States could pose a serious challenge as global economic collapse deepens. It's easy to see why preparations could be being made for it.

I started my paragraph with “although” for a reason. Beyond being part of the migration picture the fact that Mexicans are going home now has nothing to do with the fact that the US authorities might think it prudent to set up holding camps in the knowledge that the current global economic meltdown could lead to large-scale mass migration from the South. Despite what some politicians have said (e.g. Dick “No warnings” Cheney) the current financial crisis has been on the cards for years.

People are going back home to Mexico now because there are fewer and fewer jobs in the US. Mass migration north would be triggered by an even more desperate economic situation in Mexico and/or further south and/or by things like hunger and violent conflict.

From the article I linked to:

“If the U.S. economy does go completely south, Mexico and Central America will still look worse by comparison. Migrants, advocates, and experts agree: "There will be ups and downs [in the flow of migrants heading north]," says Martha Luz Rojas, an immigration expert at the Colegio de la Frontera Sur, located near Mexico's southern border. "But where else are migrants going to go -- Europe?"

And even if the "pull" factors drawing immigrants to the United States decline, many still expect that "push" effects could overpower its stalling economy. Drug violence is consuming parts of Mexico -- an escalating phenomenon that could spur more emigration in spite of the risks faced by migrants navigating a terrain that is increasingly controlled by Mexico's organized criminal gangs.”

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4731

The US authorities would be doing a responsible thing to prepare for such a possibility.

I've no idea and don't care whether these camps exist or not. It would make sense if they did.



----------------

As for putting US Americans in cages:

'Study: 1 in 31 U.S. adults in prison system'

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29469360

[Ohnoes]

So they decided to continue attacking Beck today and released their long winded version of the history of FEMA camps.

http://www.infowars.com/dear-glenn-beck-detention-camps-do-exist-in-america/

One of the last acts of Congress in 2006 was to send President Bush a bill that establishes a $38 million program of National Park Service grants to preserve Japanese POW internment camps in Hawaii, California, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Wyoming, Utah and Idaho. Is this really in the name of historical interest or does it dovetail with programs on the books to intern hundreds of thousands of dissidents in a time of crisis?


Hmmm

http://hawaii.gov/dlnr/reports-to-the-legislature/2008/2008/shpd/HP08-Japanese-Internment-Camp%20-Act163SLH07.pdf

http://www.viamagazine.com/weekenders/internment_camp06.asp

I just thought I would do a search on a couple of those places...Don't have enough time to do them all...

Point being I guess these Hundreds of Thousands they were talking about were Tourists...:rolleyes:

[CORed]

The "Federal Concentration Camp" woo has
A. Been around forever..this rumor was making the rounds of the "Counterculture" as early as 1969...

B. has been used by both Left and Right Wing Wackjobs equally.

The only new twist is the FEMA angle.

As for Beck, I really think he is going into conspriacy theories big time to try to become something a little different then just another Limbaugh/Hannity wannabe. Limbaugh and Hannity tend to avoid conspiracy theories.(they are smart enough to know better; it's makes you look like a wackjob) leaving the field wide open to Beck.

The FEMA angle isn't really new either. I'm sure I read about FEMA building concentration camps at least 10 years ago.

[Walter Ego]

The "Federal Concentration Camp" woo has
A. Been around forever..this rumor was making the rounds of the "Counterculture" as early as 1969...


True. It even inspired a movie released in 1971.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punishment_Park

[Thunder]

The FEMA angle isn't really new either. I'm sure I read about FEMA building concentration camps at least 10 years ago.

AS far as I know, the "FEMA concentration camp" idea started with The X-Files movie.

[Peace]

Have a nice time at summer concentration camp.

[Thunder]

I think Glenn Beck "can't" debunk the FEMA camps myth, because he does not want to.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Glenn Beck responds to claims that he's a conspiracy theorist:

fCZHkOAwEtc

[backstab]

i think skeptoid just did an episode on this.

[zaphod2016]

Concentration camps got a bad name in WWII, but at least in theory there is nothing wrong with the concept.

Protip: when Jews (like myself) hear this phrase, we get nervous. Back me up here, will ya Parky? :D

If there is another major weather event like Katrina, we need camps where refugees can be concentrated. This is not really controversial, but of course the name conjures up images of barbed wire and machine gun turrets.

And with good reason!

Also: using your Katrina example, didn't they use a local football stadium as an emergency shelter? Why do we need a bunch of camps? I would think the ability to easily relocate resources is key to any emergency management. If we know where to build the camps, why not simply build rapid-response infrastructure there instead? Unlike a camp, transport infrastructure can facilitate trade in non-emergencies. What do you do with a bunch of empty camps the 364 days per year they aren't needed? And- the obvious question- what happens if a thoughtless hurricane strikes somewhere we haven't built a camp yet?

I think the entire "camps" idea is just dumb. That money is better spent on high-speed rail.

As far as Beck goes, he is a tool. Ignore him and he will go away.

[pleistarchos]

Feb 23, 2009. Over the past five months, this "compound" has taken shape out in the central Arizona desert, in the middle of nowhere near Blackwater and Sacaton Arizona, along the dry Gila River. It looks to be about a quarter mile long by an eighth mile wide. It has razor wire all around it, power lines run to it and about half of it is cleared of vegetation. It is in an inhospitable and inescapable area of the Sonoran desert.

The closest small towns would be about 10 miles away in any direction. You'd be lucky to walk one mile in the summer heat there. April to November temps are commonly well above 100F. Summertime temps are routinely 120 F or even higher. Could this be for Guantanamo Bay detainees? Coming civil unrest? Illegal aliens? Mortgage defaulters? ...I will keep you posted.

--Steve in Coolidge, AZ

coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2965.html?theme=light

Has anyone seen those pics?

i see some sort of backhoe in the lower one.

[Elizabeth I]

Also: using your Katrina example, didn't they use a local football stadium as an emergency shelter? Why do we need a bunch of camps?

Well, they did use a local football stadium but it wasn't an unqualified success. Google New Orleans Superdome Katrina.

[dudalb]

AS far as I know, the "FEMA concentration camp" idea started with The X-Files movie.

Nah, the Fema stuff was around before that. I remember it being talked about when the film "Conspriacy Theory " came out.

[dudalb]

Glenn Beck responds to claims that he's a conspiracy theorist:

fCZHkOAwEtc



Beck trying to have it both ways again: Playing around with Conspiracy theories then denying he is pushing them.
And I am so sick and tired of talk shows hosts attacking each other. It 's lame when Beck does it and it's equally lame wehn Olbermann does it.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Nah, the Fema stuff was around before that. I remember it being talked about when the film "Conspriacy Theory " came out.

That movie came out back when I was in my own "black helicopter" phase. We were all excited about it because we felt it was the big break our movement had been waiting for.





I am no longer disappointed that it didn't meet our expectations.