Church Sign

[Madalch]

So I'm driving to work, as usual, and pass the church with the usually-smarmy greeting sign on it. Last week it was "The beauty of nature is God's greeting card"- something I can easily imagine written on a picture of a vulture eating a dead child.

This week, it's "Science teacher unearths evolution's flaws 10:00 Sunday".

I'm considering attending so that I can yell "LIAR!" at the correct moments.

[patchbunny]

Get a small group together armed with bingo cards, arrayed with a grid of common creationist canards instead of numbers. Don't forget to yell "Bingo!" loudly when you get five in a row. Bonus points if the entire card is filled by the end of the presentation. :)

[Redtail]

Get a small group together armed with bingo cards, arrayed with a grid of common creationist canards instead of numbers. Don't forget to yell "Bingo!" loudly when you get five in a row. Bonus points if the entire card is filled by the end of the presentation. :)

:jaw-dropp I'm gonna have to try that one day.

[Oliver]

So I'm driving to work, as usual, and pass the church with the usually-smarmy greeting sign on it. Last week it was "The beauty of nature is God's greeting card"- something I can easily imagine written on a picture of a vulture eating a dead child.

This week, it's "Science teacher unearths evolution's flaws 10:00 Sunday".

I'm considering attending so that I can yell "LIAR!" at the correct moments.


Don't forget to tape that! :D

[H3LL]

It's at times like these that standard flyers/handouts would be useful.

Whatever happened to the idea that we would have a repository of such things?

[Safe-Keeper]

Get a small group together armed with bingo cards, arrayed with a grid of common creationist canards instead of numbers. Don't forget to yell "Bingo!" loudly when you get five in a row. Bonus points if the entire card is filled by the end of the presentation. :)We have to get together and try this when a new Creationist movie comes out.

[ARubberChickenWithAPulley]

When we moved to Kentucky about 18 months ago, I started hearing about so-called "mega-churches" that are around here (I'm from New Hampshire originally, and I had never seen one of these before). We drove past one while looking at houses, and the sign on the front said: Reason is the Enemy of Faith.

Seriously. At first, I thought I had misread it. I figured not even a "mega-church" would write something that blatantly stupid. But we passed it again, and sure enough, I had read it correctly. Reason is the Enemy of Faith.

They might as well have just written, 'Come Join Our Church and Flush Your Brain Down the Toilet!' or 'God Hates It When You Think!'

Needless to say, we didn't buy a house in that area.

[Oliver]

When we moved to Kentucky about 18 months ago, I started hearing about so-called "mega-churches" that are around here (I'm from New Hampshire originally, and I had never seen one of these before). We drove past one while looking at houses, and the sign on the front said: Reason is the Enemy of Faith.


Well, at least it was a honest statement, I mean after all, reason IS the number one Enemy of Faith.

[Puppycow]

When we moved to Kentucky about 18 months ago, I started hearing about so-called "mega-churches" that are around here (I'm from New Hampshire originally, and I had never seen one of these before). We drove past one while looking at houses, and the sign on the front said: Reason is the Enemy of Faith.

Seriously. At first, I thought I had misread it. I figured not even a "mega-church" would write something that blatantly stupid. But we passed it again, and sure enough, I had read it correctly. Reason is the Enemy of Faith.

They might as well have just written, 'Come Join Our Church and Flush Your Brain Down the Toilet!' or 'God Hates It When You Think!'

Needless to say, we didn't buy a house in that area.

Probably a Lutheran Church (http://www.jesuscult.com/Luther_Anti-Reason.htm)

"Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but -- more frequently than not -- struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God."

[BPSCG]

I'm considering attending so that I can yell "LIAR!" at the correct moments.

Get a small group together armed with bingo cards, arrayed with a grid of common creationist canards instead of numbers. Don't forget to yell "Bingo!" loudly when you get five in a row. And don't forget to have the phone number of a local bail bondsman with you.

[Magyar]

2 things -
1) a pamphlet that lined up the 10 most common lies for jebus from these types would be great. make up an enoquous title that appears to be in favor of the speaker at first glance. Inside, outline the most likely lies and a short rebuttal with links to more info.

At the botton - ask "Now do you think I read the guys mind, God revealed to me the discoveries of this guy or is this just common lying done by these people to distort the facts???



2) would this be considered a political activity by the church. After all ID doesn't claim to be a religion and actively campaigning ina church a church supporting it would be campaigning no? report it to the IRS and take their tax exempt.

[BPSCG]

2) would this be considered a political activity by the church. After all ID doesn't claim to be a religion and actively campaigning ina church a church supporting it would be campaigning no? report it to the IRS and take their tax exempt.ID proponents may say it's not a religion, but unless I'm mistaken, the judge in the Dover case concluded it was just that.

And unless the speaker at the church is actually endorsing a political candidate from the pulpit, there's no way this is a tax exemption issue.

[linusrichard]

ID proponents may say it's not a religion, but unless I'm mistaken, the judge in the Dover case concluded it was just that.
Not that it's relevant, but what the judge in the Dover case concluded about ID (although correct) isn't binding here. That was for that case.

And unless the speaker at the church is actually endorsing a political candidate from the pulpit, there's no way this is a tax exemption issue.

And that's why I said "not that it's relevant."

[Jeff Corey]

I saw a church sign, "`I am the good shepherd, the one who really cares for the sheep. I know my sheep and my sheep know me."
And I thought of a few posters here.
Not Shemp or Mercurtio.
You know who you are.

[FramerDave]

"God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion." Superintendent Chalmers

Is this something going on during a service? Showing up and heckling seems kind of douchey to me. You wouldn't want someone to come to your house and start hassling you about your lack of love for God and saviour would you?

Don't take this to mean that I agree in any way with zealots who choose to ignore evidence and facts and would have us living in the Dark Ages again. It just wouldn't be a good way to get a point across.

[slingblade]

I saw a church sign, "`I am the good shepherd, the one who really cares for the sheep. I know my sheep and my sheep know me."


"in the biblical sense, of course."

[Madalch]

"God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion." Superintendent Chalmers

Is this something going on during a service? Showing up and heckling seems kind of douchey to me.

I didn't go. I considered going, especially once I found out that this is a science teacher at the local Christian high school that teaches his students that evolution is a lie, but I decided that listening to his stuff would make me too angry.

I did find out from a friend who did go that he was using the irreducible complexity argument. He mentioned the eye, but I didn't hear if he actually quoted Darwin or not.

He did say that scientists look at evidence and try to find explanations, whereas Christians read the bible and look for evidence to fit it. And he thought this was a way to slag scientists.

I am horrified to hear that an actual science teacher here (outside of the bible-thumping belt) actually teaches cretinism.

[Checkmite]

Is this something going on during a service? Showing up and heckling seems kind of douchey to me. You wouldn't want someone to come to your house and start hassling you about your lack of love for God and saviour would you?

I agree with this. Going to a church solely to complain about their sermon, or any of their beliefs, is something I can't get behind. There's proper ways to combat this sort of thinking, and that's not one of them. I'm glad you didn't go.

[Beerina]

Off subject: Christmas has been over for almost 3 months. Can you guys change your icons back, or to something else? Madalch, H3ll, I'm talkin' to you! :mad: Especially you, H3ll. Your girls got way too much overlay on. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Madalch]

I agree with this. Going to a church solely to complain about their sermon, or any of their beliefs, is something I can't get behind. There's proper ways to combat this sort of thinking, and that's not one of them. I'm glad you didn't go.
Had I gone, I would have quietly taken notes, not actually heckled.

I might have been tempted to punch out the guy afterwards, but....

[Holler Hoojer]

"in the biblical sense, of course."

How did that work? Biblical shepherds surely didn't have rubber Wellingtons?