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JamesM
17th November 2003, 10:08 AM
From the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3277029.stm)
A group of Italian anti-war militants is raising funds to support the armed Iraqi resistance, the BBC has learned.

The discovery comes as Italy mourns 19 men killed in a suicide attack in Iraq last week.

The "Antiimperialista" organisation's internet campaign asks people to send "10 Euros to the Iraqi resistance".

They say they have collected 12,000 euros ($14,165) in the past eight weeks and admit the money used could be used to buy weapons.
Well, that'll help matters.
Tony
17th November 2003, 11:13 AM
The Antiimperialistas are a group of European anti-war and anti-globalisation supporters.

They are currently organising an anti-war demonstration in Italy next month, and it remains to be seen whether news of the fund-raising activities will deter more moderate anti-war activists from attending.

What a bunch of hypocrites. This confirms a long heald suspicion of mine. Some "anti-war" groups arent so much anti-war as they are anti-west, anti-freedom and anti-progress.
Judith
17th November 2003, 11:16 AM
Sounds like soon Bush will be putting pressure on allies to round up more of their
own people. Stick em in a camp! If they aren't with us, they're against us. :rolleyes:
JamesM
17th November 2003, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Tony

"Anti-war" groups arent so much anti-war as they are anti-west, anti-freedom and anti-progress.

Well, some anti-war groups, anyway.
Tony
17th November 2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Judith

Stick em in a camp! If they aren't with us, they're against us. :rolleyes:

But these people ARE against us.
aerocontrols
17th November 2003, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Judith
If they aren't with us, they're against us.

Clearly this group has chosen a side.



anti-war militants

Anti-war militant is a contradiction in terms. It's amazing the lengths that the BBC will go to to avoid giving them an appropriate name.
c0rbin
17th November 2003, 11:45 AM
anti-war militants


What the hell isan "anti-war militant"?
Tony
17th November 2003, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by c0rbin



What the hell isan "anti-war militant"?

A hypocrite.
Tmy
17th November 2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by c0rbin



What the hell isan "anti-war militant"?

Theyre the arch nemisis of pro-war pacifists.
aerocontrols
17th November 2003, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Tmy


Theyre the arch nemisis of pro-war pacifists.

Do you think 'anti-war militants' is an appropriate name, or do you think the BBC should describe them some other way?

I've never heard a media organization call anyone a 'pro-war pacifist', have you?
Jocko
17th November 2003, 01:05 PM
I think we're all missing the big picture here... this is, in fact, excellent news for the US and allied forces.

I mean, after all, when have the Italians ever backed the winning side?

(yes, yes, I know Berlusconi is with us, but the irony was too much to pass up.)
Jocko
17th November 2003, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by aerocontrols


Do you think 'anti-war militants' is an appropriate name, or do you think the BBC should describe them some other way?

I've never heard a media organization call anyone a 'pro-war pacifist', have you?

Makes as much sense as "environmentalists" who set fires to car dealerships, releasing a hundred times more toxins into the ecosystem as the vehicles involved would ever produce during their lifespan.

I don't know if it's hypocrisy or just blinding stupidity.


"I'm starting a war for peace." -- Eric Idle of Monty Python fame
Aoidoi
17th November 2003, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Jocko
I think we're all missing the big picture here... this is, in fact, excellent news for the US and allied forces.

I mean, after all, when have the Italians ever backed the winning side?Well, we've got a bit of a problem. The Italian army is on "our" side. I hope these opponents balance it out so that we can win, but I fear this just means everyone will lose.

;)

(an excellent joke Jocko, I wish I had thought of it!)
Andonyx
17th November 2003, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by aerocontrols


Do you think 'anti-war militants' is an appropriate name, or do you think the BBC should describe them some other way?

I've never heard a media organization call anyone a 'pro-war pacifist', have you?

I think that's the point...it was a demonstration of absurdity form TMY.
TillEulenspiegel
17th November 2003, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by c0rbin



What the hell isan "anti-war militant"?

An oxyMORON
"Jumbo shrimp", "military intelligence"
:)
Ian Osborne
17th November 2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by c0rbin
What the hell is an "anti-war militant"?

Anti-this war rather than war in general, perhaps?

I don't agree with what this group is doing either, but I hope the forumites who are attacking them will also condemn Reagan's backing of the Muja-Hadin in Afghanistan and the contra terrorists in Nicaragua.
aerocontrols
17th November 2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Ian Osborne
Anti-this war rather than war in general, perhaps?

Clearly not. They are actively supporting one side in this war.
Ian Osborne
17th November 2003, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by aerocontrols
Clearly not. They are actively supporting one side in this war.

Or to put it another way, anti-the hostile invasion of Iraq.
shuize
17th November 2003, 03:30 PM
If the group has made it clear they're going to give the money to armed groups and not humanitarian aid organizations, I think they are now legitimate targets themselves.
a_unique_person
17th November 2003, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Tony


What a bunch of hypocrites. This confirms a long heald suspicion of mine. Some "anti-war" groups arent so much anti-war as they are anti-west, anti-freedom and anti-progress.

It's not just a suspicion, it is true. However, not the word "some". Not all anti-war groups are like this by any means.