Daylight Savings Time Conspiracy?

[Caustic Logic]

Is there one? (A conspiracy theory, I mean) I was just thinking, I understand the reasons, more-or-less, that we spring ahead and fall behind each year, but on a certain level it's weird, and almost Orwellian.

For six months 2+2=4. For the other six 2+2=5. Then back to normal again, because THE STATE say so.

Just a weird thought, for my part, made me chuckle a bit. Is anyone aware of anyone ever having freaked out over something like this?

[Silly Green Monkey]

It's to ensure that paper carriers get complaints no matter how fast they are, because the presses don't start an hour earlier the day before.

[Oliver]

There is no conspiracy here :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#Origin

[ParrotPirate]

Silly antiquated waste of time,yes. Conspiracy,no.

[garethdjb]

Au contraire, there's always a conspiracy somewhere. At Abovetopsecret.com for example:

"There is no logical reason for it other than to give the masses something stupid and trivial to think about when there are more important things they don't want you to spend your time doing (like giving serious reflection on what the governments are actually doing). "

[MG1962]

Au contraire, there's always a conspiracy somewhere. At Abovetopsecret.com for example:

"There is no logical reason for it other than to give the masses something stupid and trivial to think about when there are more important things they don't want you to spend your time doing (like giving serious reflection on what the governments are actually doing). "

I love that. I really do........you could almost prove the sun comming up is a CT with that argument

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Is there one?


Well, there's obviously something fishy going on. While my computer is telling me that it's 12:15pm, Facebook insists that it's actually 1:15pm. :tinfoil

[wexer9]

Well, there's obviously something fishy going on. While my computer is telling me that it's 12:15pm, Facebook insists that it's actually 1:15pm. :tinfoil
Clearly Facebook and Microsoft are part of competing secret societies who aim to control time itself.

Clearly.

[Alareth]

I love that. I really do........you could almost prove the sun comming up is a CT with that argument

I believe sunrise and sunset are somehow involved in flat earth conspiracy.

[fromdownunder]

There is a conspiracy theory for everything:

http://www.nwanews.com/adg/Editorial/187608


You may have noticed that March of this year was particularly hot. As a matter of fact, I understand that it was the hottest March since the beginning of the last century. All of the trees were fully leafed out and legions of bugs and snakes were crawling around during a time in Arkansas when, on a normal year, we might see a snowflake or two. This should come as no surprise to any reasonable person. As you know, Daylight Saving Time started almost a month early this year. You would think that members of Congress would have considered the warming effect that an extra hour of daylight would have on our climate. Or did they ? Perhaps this is another plot by a liberal Congress to make us believe that global warming is a real threat. Perhaps next time there should be serious studies performed before Congress passes laws with such far-reaching effects.


As I understand it though, the letter was satire, but I am surprised that it was not picked up and run with by a few woos.

Norm

[Travis]

Maybe we should get the lady that thought rainbows were a conspiracy to work on uncovering the dark secrets behind this.

[D'rok]

I think we need a modified rule #34
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rule%2034

Proposed:

Rule #34(a)
If it exists, there is a conspiracy behind it

Rule #34(b)
If it doesn't exist, there is a conspiracy behind it

[ktesibios]

I think we need a modified rule #34
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rule%2034

Proposed:

Rule #34(a)
If it exists, there is a conspiracy behind it

Rule #34(b)
If it doesn't exist, there is a conspiracy behind it

Rule #34(c)
If it happened, someone has blamed the Jews for it.

[fromdownunder]

Rule #34(c)
If it happened, someone has blamed the Jews for it.

[Rule #34(d) Even if it didn't happen someone has blamed the Jews for it.

Norm

[rjh01]

Everyone is so stupid. They take a hour away from you every spring and give it back to you in the autumn (fall) and call this saving. However they never pay any interest on this time they take away. But if I loan money to someone I expect some interest to be paid.

So there is the conspiracy.

[Caustic Logic]

Maybe we should get the lady that thought rainbows were a conspiracy to work on uncovering the dark secrets behind this.

Ha! I saw that video, and this letter is a lot the same. What are they putting in our water to make rainbows at ground level? Why does Congress add another hour of daylight to add to global warming? That ATS quote is also gold. I'm a little disappointed that's all there is from genuine nutballs (that we know of), but I'm glad I was able to channel the frustration of a lost hour into a fun thread with a couple of pseudo-theories.
:D:D:D

[Architect]

Everyone is so stupid. They take a hour away from you every spring and give it back to you in the autumn (fall) and call this saving. However they never pay any interest on this time they take away. But if I loan money to someone I expect some interest to be paid.

So there is the conspiracy.

But interest rates are below 1%. What would you do with your your 36 seconds?

[rjh01]

But interst rates are below 1%. What would you do with your your 36 seconds?

Invest it. This happens every year. Imagine the interest after 20 years. Plus interest on interest. Who has the time? Someone has stolen it.

Also remember interest rates are sometimes quite high.

[Ohnoes]

I've discovered the conspiracy!

Turns out the true intention of DST is to make you lose your job by making you forget to adjust your alarm clock so you wake up late and get to work late. They almost got me!:covereyes

[Horatius]

I've discovered the conspiracy!

Turns out the true intention of DST is to make you lose your job by making you forget to adjust your alarm clock so you wake up late and get to work late. They almost got me!:covereyes



No no no! It's to kill your spirit with one last dose of winter blahs. After a few weeks of seeing the Sun when you actually wake up in the morning, they push it back an hour, so you're back to waking up in the dark!

I almost went back to bed this morning. They only reason I didn't is, the cats would eat me if I did!

[jmcvann]

Well, there's obviously something fishy going on. While my computer is telling me that it's 12:15pm, Facebook insists that it's actually 1:15pm. :tinfoil

And the JREF says you posted at 11:16 p.m. (An hour AND a minute!!!)

[Dave Rogers]

But interest rates are below 1%. What would you do with your your 36 seconds?

Do about as much research into the history of Daylight Saving Time as the conspiracy theorists. Not sure how to fill the remaining 11 seconds, though.

Dave

[I Ratant]

No no no! It's to kill your spirit with one last dose of winter blahs. After a few weeks of seeing the Sun when you actually wake up in the morning, they push it back an hour, so you're back to waking up in the dark!

I almost went back to bed this morning. They only reason I didn't is, the cats would eat me if I did!
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There's an easy mantra for that.
"Spring back, fall ahead".
Remember that!
And remember "Nixon Time", when we went on DST in January? And then again in April?
And then he lost his job.

[Horatius]

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There's an easy mantra for that.
"Spring back, fall ahead".
Remember that!
And remember "Nixon Time", when we went on DST in January? And then again in April?
And then he lost his job.



How about "Spring loaded, Fall down Drunk"?


And no, I'm pretty sure I don't remember anything about Nixon, whoever he is! ;)

[Cl1mh4224rd]

And the JREF says you posted at 11:16 p.m. (An hour AND a minute!!!)


Good catch! There are clearly a suspicious number of anomalies surrounding time itself. I propose the formation of a Time Truth Movement to get to the bottom of this, once and for all.

[HeyLeroy]

Is there one? (A conspiracy theory, I mean) I was just thinking, I understand the reasons, more-or-less, that we spring ahead and fall behind each year, but on a certain level it's weird, and almost Orwellian.

For six months 2+2=4. For the other six 2+2=5. Then back to normal again, because THE STATE say so.

Just a weird thought, for my part, made me chuckle a bit. Is anyone aware of anyone ever having freaked out over something like this?

Ask Newfoundland... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_Standard_Time_Zone)

[Skeptic Guy]

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There's an easy mantra for that.
"Spring back, fall ahead".
Remember that!
And remember "Nixon Time", when we went on DST in January? And then again in April?
And then he lost his job.

Er, it's spring ahead and fall back...nice try NWO time savings shill.

[Alareth]

Google Calendar apparently shifted all my events one hour later on Sunday and then pushed the "updated" schedules to my phone.

I was an hour late for everything today.

[Horatius]

Er, it's spring ahead and fall back...nice try NWO time savings shill.


That's just what they want you to believe!


This is why Rich folk are always ahead of us!

[D'rok]

Ask Newfoundland... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_Standard_Time_Zone)

Or those iconoclastic Saskatchewanians (http://www.timetemperature.com/tzca/current_time_in_saskatchewan.shtml).

Maybe Caustic Logic should move to Moose Jaw to, you know, avoid the NWO conspiracy?

[Caustic Logic]

How about "Spring loaded, Fall down Drunk"?
Spring roll, Falun Gong?
(I ate Chinese last night)

All the interest rate savings stuff made me wonder what if that was institutionalized? You could hold timeshares in Fortune 500 Companies. How long until a Daylight Savings and Loan Scandal?

[I Ratant]

Er, it's spring ahead and fall back...nice try NWO time savings shill.
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Hey!
Every once in awhile that works, catching the unaware....
I am easily amused. :)

[Elizabeth I]

But interest rates are below 1%. What would you do with your your 36 seconds?

Invest it. This happens every year. Imagine the interest after 20 years. Plus interest on interest. Who has the time? Someone has stolen it.

Also remember interest rates are sometimes quite high.

If you saved all your interest seconds and invested them, pretty soon you could come close to immortality.

[Seanette]

Cue my semi-annual "standard, daylight, split the difference, pick something else altogether, I really don't care, just pick something and STICK WITH IT!!!!!" rant.

I really don't care what pseudo-time zone I'm in, I just get aggravated by the hassle of switching around twice a year.

[fromdownunder]

I would be quite happy to donate my extra seconds to eliminate the "leap second" which is used to alter time every now and then. What was God thinking when he got the time so badly wrong? Leap years are bad enough, but have you ever tried to adjust your watch to take in a leap second? Plus the adjustment is always at midnight, which means I have to be awake to fix my watch.

That is a true consporacy. I have not quite worked out why it is one though.

Norm

[jmcvann]

I would be quite happy to donate my extra seconds to eliminate the "leap second" which is used to alter time every now and then. What was God thinking when he got the time so badly wrong?

Don't be blaming God. If only we hadn't defined the second as the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the cesium 133 atom, with the cesium atom at rest at a temperature of 0 Kelvin. Now THAT was our big mistake! Maybe 9,192,631,771 periods would have fixed this mess.

[FreshHat]

That extra hour of daylight is surely a fiendish plot to accelerate global warming!

FWIW, it's not six months of Standard Time and six months of Daylight Time.

It's now four months of S.T. and eight months of D.T.

[Caustic Logic]

Plus the adjustment is always at midnight, which means I have to be awake to fix my watch.

Wait - you're from Australia, right? Midnight actually happen at noon down there, so you should have no problem being awake. I got you, debunked!

[I Ratant]

Cue my semi-annual "standard, daylight, split the difference, pick something else altogether, I really don't care, just pick something and STICK WITH IT!!!!!" rant.

I really don't care what pseudo-time zone I'm in, I just get aggravated by the hassle of switching around twice a year.
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Move to Arizona. They don't switch.

[Hyver]

Do about as much research into the history of Daylight Saving Time as the conspiracy theorists. Not sure how to fill the remaining 11 seconds, though.

Dave
25 seconds is pretty generous.

[Ohnoes]

I almost went back to bed this morning. They only reason I didn't is, the cats would eat me if I did!

NWO cats is watching you!:cool:

[Skeptic Guy]

That's just what they want you to believe!


This is why Rich folk are always ahead of us!

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Hey!
Every once in awhile that works, catching the unaware....
I am easily amused. :)

:p

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Move to Arizona. They don't switch.

And Indiana doesn't, either. At least they didn't when my grandparents lived there.

In my business we order international transmission services in GMT but often times the orders come to us in US Eastern. It's a pain in the backside to correctly calculate the time difference.

It used to be easy, first Sunday in April and the last Sunday in October. Now, I never know when it starts/stops.

[HeyLeroy]

Or those iconoclastic Saskatchewanians (http://www.timetemperature.com/tzca/current_time_in_saskatchewan.shtml).

Maybe Caustic Logic should move to Moose Jaw to, you know, avoid the NWO conspiracy?

Are you NUTS?!? That big Canadian Naval Base in Saskatchewan is the HUB of NWO activity!

[Brian Jackson]

I met/spoke with the governor of Indiana at the time they were considering DST. The exact location of the new time zone line was being hotly debated for reasons that made sense. Since Northern Indiana does a lot of business with bordering states, a shift of 1 hour meant that there are 2 less hours per day that cross-state business could take place (1 hour at opening + 1 hour at closing time.) So it boiled down to where the zone line did the most good for the greatest business population.

[CORed]

Is there one? (A conspiracy theory, I mean) I was just thinking, I understand the reasons, more-or-less, that we spring ahead and fall behind each year, but on a certain level it's weird, and almost Orwellian.

For six months 2+2=4. For the other six 2+2=5. Then back to normal again, because THE STATE say so.

Just a weird thought, for my part, made me chuckle a bit. Is anyone aware of anyone ever having freaked out over something like this?

Every spring, when they force me to set my clocks forward, the gubmint borrows an hour of my time. In the fall, when they return that hour, they don't pay any interest. That's conspiracy enough for me.

[defaultdotxbe]

And Indiana doesn't, either. At least they didn't when my grandparents lived there.
as of 2007 (or maybe it was 2006) they do

although the counties in central time and a few near louisville and cincinnati have always switched (about 15 or 16 counties in total, for reasons pointed out by Brian Jackson)

[Corsair 115]

Every spring, when they force me to set my clocks forward, the gubmint borrows an hour of my time. In the fall, when they return that hour, they don't pay any interest. That's conspiracy enough for me.


Meh, I'd rather stay on daylight saving time all year round. I like sunset coming an hour later in the day like it does under DST...

[ejk]

Now that we're about to fall back once again, I want to ask if anyone really understands the politics of DST. Back in the mists of time when I was a young 'un, it started at the end of April and ended at the beginning of October. Now in the U.S. it's been pushed back several times so there are many more months of DST than standard time. My question -- why?

Yeah, yeah, gubmint conspiracy. But seriously. Someone cared enough about this to mobilize Congress to legislate on more than one occasion. And call me a cynic, but I say that doesn't happen unless someone stands to gain financially from the result. Or thinks they do.

I've heard people say that the chamber of commerce and business interests were behind the push to expand DST because people shop more if it's light in the evening. Really? I mean, people don't go to the store after work because they need to, they go because it's light out? This just seems crazy to me. Does anyone have a rational explanation?

Mind you, I'm not whining too loudly. This year Halloween is on a Saturday and it gets a whole extra hour because we fall back. (Hey, what does that mean for closing time in bars, if it's 2 a.m. do they get to wait until the second 2 a.m. to close?) And I'll be out playing in New Orleans so no complaints about the extra hour this year. Still, it's awfully late, and I hate in the spring when we lose that hour so early and have to go back to waking up in the dark.

[BazBear]

Is there one? (A conspiracy theory, I mean) I was just thinking, I understand the reasons, more-or-less, that we spring ahead and fall behind each year, but on a certain level it's weird, and almost Orwellian.

For six months 2+2=4. For the other six 2+2=5. Then back to normal again, because THE STATE say so.

Just a weird thought, for my part, made me chuckle a bit. Is anyone aware of anyone ever having freaked out over something like this?
A weird thought, yes :) lol Why are you feeding ammo to the Ctists!:mad: j/k :D

[Sunray Breaker]

"There is no logical reason for it other than to give the masses something stupid and trivial to think about when there are more important things they don't want you to spend your time doing (like giving serious reflection on what the governments are actually doing). "

That's actually a great way to describe Conspiracy Theories themselves.

[CORed]

Well, I'm not really a believer in the Daylight Savings Conspiracy, but I do have some questions:

Every spring, when the government forces you to set your clock forward, they take away an hour of your time. Now, of course they give it back in the fall when you set your clock back, but why don't they pay any interest on the hour that they've had for more than six months?

When we consider that in the US alone, the government has taken an hour away from 300 million or so people, they have borrowed over 800,000 years every spring. What exactly does the government do with all that time?

Can we really trust the government with all that time? How do we know they won't use it up, and then not be able to give it back? After all, the government is notorious for spending more money than they actually have, and time is money.

If the government runs a time deficit, what assurance so we have that they won't decide not to give it back in the fall, or indeed, that they will start stealing more time by forcing us to set our clocks ahead again and again?

I'm not saying there is a conspiracy. I'm just asking questions.

[Damien Evans]

But interest rates are below 1%. What would you do with your your 36 seconds?

Not here (and by definition where Rjh01 is as well) they're not, they're at 3.5% here.

[Damien Evans]

That extra hour of daylight is surely a fiendish plot to accelerate global warming!

FWIW, it's not six months of Standard Time and six months of Daylight Time.

It's now four months of S.T. and eight months of D.T.

6 and 6 here in Australia, at least for the parts that do daylight savings.

[fromdownunder]

6 and 6 here in Australia, at least for the parts that do daylight savings.

It started at 4 and 8, (end of October to start of March) now it's 6 and 6. What have they learned since it started that they are hiding from us? Is the long term plan to make it 12 months, and steal one hour of our lives, one hour of our sunlight, and one hour of who knows what forever??? The Jews must be behind this!

Just asking questions is all.

Norm