Simple question for Bigfoot enthusiasts: Why no unambiguous photos/videos?

[William Parcher]

Where are the yellow lines and estimates of size from certain quarters?

It's in the BFF thread. Painthorse took measurements on site and estimated the sitting height of the baby Bigfoot at 18".

[William Parcher]

The writing is basically on the wall - the years just keep piling up without any kind of solid, verifiable evidence, and for the "Average Joe" this is causing a one-time decently-acceptable "Gray Area" of "Bigfoot Research" to shrink down to a tiny, almost nonexistent miniscule speck.

You are talking about the Gray Area for Bigfoot enthusiasts. But the general population and scientists were never really burdened with the silly notion that Bigfoot is out there.

Belief in Bigfoot would have been minority back in 1958 after Jerry Crew presented his casts and also again in 1967 after Roger Patterson presented his film. The reason that most folks and scientists never did believe is because they (properly) estimated that we would have already had a body if Bigfoot exists. They understood the centuries of time passed and the many millions of people and the guns and the vehicles and the lack of a specimen or part of a specimen and they put it all into perspective. It's just an application of rationality and reason applied to time and space. There is no need for 2011 odometer to roll over to let people know that Bigfoot isn't out there. How many years had already piled up in 1958?

There were widespread logging campaigns, great numbers of people with guns who hunted for their meat (who nearly exterminated white-tailed deer from the East), massive armies of the Civil War, etc. and through everything not a single specimen was ever produced. So, Bigfooters are just now going to shake their heads and walk away? Hello. Wake up and smell the coffee that the rest of the world has been brewing all this time.

The Bigfoot denialist isn't someone with a closed mind and who won't look at the proposed evidence. They are somebody with a brilliant idea.

[Akhenaten]

Is this any use?



http://www.yvonneclaireadams.com/HostedStuff/GuineaFowl.gif

[William Parcher]

It moves like a wombat.

[Akhenaten]

I wonder if it eats roots and leaves.

[Drewbot]

Good job Akhenaten, I used your gif over at BFF to try and convince them that it is not a baby Bigfoot. Hard to believe I have to do that.
http://bigfootforums.com/index.php?/topic/7524-anyone-seen-this-picture-of-a-possible-juvenile-bigfoot/page__view__findpost__p__87295

[William Parcher]

Now it just looks like the baby Bigfoot in 4x4 mode moving out.

[Akhenaten]

Good job Akhenaten, I used your gif over at BFF to try and convince them that it is not a baby Bigfoot. Hard to believe I have to do that.





Cheers, mate. Happy to help.


None so blind as they who will not see, eh?

[Drewbot]

Painthorse thinks the GIF depicts the Guinea Hen chasing off the baby Bigfoot.

It is no use.

[Deacondark]

Painthorse thinks the GIF depicts the Guinea Hen chasing off the baby Bigfoot.

It is no use.

And yet at no time can you see them both in the frame.

[parnassus]

Not that I know of. Somebody could make one now.

There ought to be at least one pic before the "first one (baby Bigfoot)" when the guineafowl initially walked into the camera's field of view. If PH is intentionally withholding any earlier pics then we really have a hoax. Even now it looks more hoaxey than mistakey.

I believe what we see in the first frame is a guinea fowl that has just landed...it didn't walk in, it flew in.

[William Parcher]

They rarely fly even when scared.

Maybe it walked into the scene and we just don't get to see the first pic(s) taken by the camera.

[LTC8K6]

So why can't we see the rest of the pics?

[William Parcher]

New Extended Version of Paul Freeman Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtbEu3xNRY0). Looks like every other YouTube Bigfoot video. Lots of fake tracks in the beginning. Then the Bigfoot suits show up.

It's funny to hear his expressions and what he chooses to say. Classic Bigfoot Hoaxing.

[Deacondark]

New Extended Version of Paul Freeman Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtbEu3xNRY0). Looks like every other YouTube Bigfoot video. Lots of fake tracks in the beginning. Then the Bigfoot suits show up.

It's funny to hear his expressions and what he chooses to say. Classic Bigfoot Hoaxing.


Those are the fakest looking tracks I've ever seen. Good enough to fool Meldrum though, apparently.

[parnassus]

They rarely fly even when scared.

Maybe it walked into the scene and we just don't get to see the first pic(s) taken by the camera.

The "head" looks like blurred tail feathers to me.

[Kilaak Kommander]

It's funny to hear his expressions and what he chooses to say. Classic Bigfoot Hoaxing.

"I only see 'em when I'm by myself. Never see 'em when there's somebody else with me." :nope:

[Akhenaten]

The "head" looks like blurred tail feathers to me.





I thought the 'head' might have been the bird's starboard wing not quite fully in the 'stowed' position as though it had either just landed or just finished having a bit of a stretch/flap.

It doesn't seem to be standing erect as it is in the second frame.

[William Parcher]

If camera traps don't prove existence of Bigfoot or Yeti nothing will (http://news.mongabay.com/2011/1013-hance_cameratrap-cryptid.html)

...so how could such a large animal avoid discovery? Cryptozoologists have a common response: they argue that these hominids are incredibly elusive and shy, which is why they have so long avoided detection. The primates are masters at avoiding humans, say believers. Let's for a moment give cryptozoologists the benefit of the doubt on this; let's say these creatures have learned to avoid humans so stealthily that even their massive size is not a hindrance to their ability to hide. However, those days of hiding must soon be numbered: e have a new ubiquitous tool—the camera trap—that can provide verifiable proof of a species without a human ever having to get close to it. One way or another this will be key to ending the Yeti-Sasquatch-debate.


It's pretty obvious that it won't end the debate. Bigfooters won't allow for that.

[LTC8K6]

Camera traps go back to before 1900. They used trip wires at first, and then IR beams to set off film cameras, and then they went to digital cameras. They have been using camera traps for a long time.

They have been widely available since before bigfoot became popular.

Yet we still have no camera trap pics of bigfoot.

[tube]

Thanks to William Parcher for posting the link to the "raw" video footage of Paul Freeman. It prompted me to write up a short analysis of one of the tracks:

http://orgoneresearch.com/2011/10/16/is-this-bigfoot-track-real/

[parnassus]

As I recall Hardin said the Mill Creek tracks started and stopped abruptly. Dahinden noticed that pine needles had been removed.
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/freemantracks.htm

[tsig]

Camera traps go back to before 1900. They used trip wires at first, and then IR beams to set off film cameras, and then they went to digital cameras. They have been using camera traps for a long time.

They have been widely available since before bigfoot became popular.

Yet we still have no camera trap pics of bigfoot.

Tripwires? His feet are big but they're very sensitive and his thick fur coat sheds IR like water. It also obscures his form which is why all the photos are blurred.:)

[Drewbot]

I just got a call that an Amur Leopard was caught on camera in China for the 1st time since 1949. I found the article on UK daily Telegraph, but cant copy links w/ my phone. This just rubs bigfootry's face in it if this is true.

[LTC8K6]

Tripwires? His feet are big but they're very sensitive and his thick fur coat sheds IR like water. It also obscures his form which is why all the photos are blurred.:)

You should hear the thud when a 6X9 800 pound biped trips and face plants...

[BTMO]

New Extended Version of Paul Freeman Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtbEu3xNRY0). Looks like every other YouTube Bigfoot video. Lots of fake tracks in the beginning. Then the Bigfoot suits show up.

It's funny to hear his expressions and what he chooses to say. Classic Bigfoot Hoaxing.

I hunt. I am not super good at it, but I do enjoy it.

Even with my level of ineptitude, I know that the way to sneak up on an animal is NOT to walk around with a video camera providing running commentary!

It's a pretty poor hoax.

:)

[Drewbot]

I just got a call that an Amur Leopard was caught on camera in China for the 1st time since 1949. I found the article on UK daily Telegraph, but cant copy links w/ my phone. This just rubs bigfootry's face in it if this is true.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wildlife/8823786/Amur-leopard-captured-on-camera-in-China-for-first-time-since-1949.html

How's it smell?

Sun Ge, the researcher, said the photograph had been a stroke of serendipity. "I am actually researching herbivorous animals in three forests around the county, and I had not expected to capture an image of an Amur leopard at all," he said.
Mr Sun had set up 40 cameras around the forest in the Spring, returning to collect the images every 20 days. The leopard was photographed on September 19.
There are fewer than 50 Amur leopards (Panthera pardus orientalis) left living in the wild, almost all of them in Russia. The cat is classified as technically extinct in China, although there could be around ten of them roaming the Sino-Siberian border.

[Deacondark]

You should hear the thud when a 6X9 800 pound biped trips and face plants...


If A Bigfoot falls in the woods, and no Footer is around to hear it, does it still sound "Squatchy"?