The Jews murdered George Carlin!!!

[Thunder]

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1386578/1/

I love these guys. They make me feel soo...well.....normal.

:D

[AStone]

Indeed. It is a well known fact that Zionists are able to shrink themselves (Innerspace-style) and clog the hearts of 9/11 truthers. Alex Jones had a show all about our shape-shifting Jew friends.

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Well I don't know. Who am I to dispute reasoning like this?

However this was a man who had already had 3 non-fatal heart attacks. Heart attacks get less dangerous every time you have one so it's impossible that this is what would have killed him.

:boggled:

[Thunder]

Indeed. It is a well known fact that Zionists are able to shrink themselves (Innerspace-style) and clog the hearts of 9/11 truthers. Alex Jones had a show all about our shape-shifting Jew friends.

Yes...we Jews are pretty sneaky!!

[alfaniner]

Not having read the article I can't comment on it. But considering some of his routines, I'd suspect it would be the Roman Catholics who wanted to do it.

[1337m4n]

Sometimes people actually just die from heart failure. Not everything is some sort of conspiracy.

Did...did a Truther actually say this???

I am shocked. Shocked in a good way, but shocked. This Truther shows signs of rational thought.

[1337m4n]

Heart attacks get less dangerous every time you have one

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/jmiles/2008/07/08/sense.jpg

[Thunder]

Did...did a Truther actually say this???

I am shocked. Shocked in a good way, but shocked. This Truther shows signs of rational thought.

Clearly a double-agent for the Illuminati.

[plumjam]

Stuff and nonsense.

[Drudgewire]

However this was a man who had already had 3 non-fatal heart attacks. Heart attacks get less dangerous every time you have one so it's impossible that this is what would have killed him.


It's the guy's first post. I'm going on the assumption he's a non-truther fishing for stupid.

Because otherwise... :boggled:

[Myron Proudfoot]

now THAT is Stundie Material!!!!!

[Thunder]

"Jerome Seinfeld even paid tribute to the man afterwards. Seinfeld is a top agent for the Mossad, charged with rallying support for their cause. "

This from someone on Loose Change. Classic.

[Zim]

this is why I don't click on links, I wish I hadn't clicked on that one, give me a refund for the 3 minutes of my life I wasted please :P

[Horatius]

this is why I don't click on links, I wish I hadn't clicked on that one, give me a refund for the 3 minutes of my life I wasted please :P



Granted.


You will now die three minutes later than we had planned on.


[/EvilNWOPlot]

[Gord_in_Toronto]

this is why I don't click on links, I wish I hadn't clicked on that one, give me a refund for the 3 minutes of my life I wasted please :P

Zim. I see you are new. Welcome and please read section 61.6 iii (a) of the secret membership agreement you automatically agreed to by posting here. It says that no one who posts in this forum ever gets a portion of their life back for any reason.

(Unless you buy the special key from me by depositing $400 to my PayPal account). :D

And don't listen to Horatius. He has no official status here what-so-ever. :duck:

[Gord_in_Toronto]

OOps.

[Horatius]

And don't listen to Horatius. He has no official status here what-so-ever. :duck:




Not Official, no. [/PowerBehindTheThrone]

[MattusMaximus]

The stupid! It burns!!! :flamed:

[Thunder]

The stupid! It burns!!! :flamed:

it freezes..it freezes!! take it off!!!

:D

[1337m4n]

Who is this "Jerome" Seinfeld?

[JoeyDonuts]

My stars, I do believe Borat's anti-semitism makes more logical sense than this drivel.

"Beware the Jooo Claw....."

[Alex Libman]

(1) Given billions of people with Internet access, someone is bound to say something stupid. Deal with it.

(2) The word "Jew" doesn't appear anywhere on the original thread. You're projecting.

(3) I would like to dedicate this post to the memory of all the murdered journalists everywhere.


PS: ****, piss, ****, ****, **********, ****************, tits.

[JoeyDonuts]

Great. Let's start with Daniel Pearl who was NOT murdered by Jews.

Although I'm certain somebody somewhere on InfoWars or ATS disagrees with me.

[Alex Libman]

Being Jewish myself, I am offended when my entire ethnic group is blamed for the actions of particular individuals, like the much-mythologized but none-the-less real criminal interests affiliated with the Israeli government. Not all Italians are in the Mafia...

[Travis]

Being Jewish myself, I am offended when my entire ethnic group is blamed for the actions of particular individuals, like the much-mythologized but none-the-less real criminal interests affiliated with the Israeli government. Not all Italians are in the Mafia...

Bah! The fun of stereotypes is always ruined by facts.

[JoeyDonuts]

But having a scared "Us vs Your Particular Boogeyman" worldview just saves so much time! I don't ever have to worry about learning about other cultures or listening to another person's argument. And I SURE as hell have the comfort of never having to examine my own beliefs. Plus, feeling like I'm the only goldfish swimming upstream makes me feel important and special - which is important for me because I've been fired from like, 6 jobs now. But that's all going to change when we burn the Grove to the ground and take the power back!

How exactly do we find "Them," though. That's the question really. Where do we start?




*crickets*




....crap.

[Donal]

(1) Given billions of people with Internet access, someone is bound to say something stupid. Deal with it.

Thanks for setting my irony meter on fire, jerk.

(2) The word "Jew" doesn't appear anywhere on the original thread. You're projecting.

I guess you missed the Mossad references.

(3) I would like to dedicate this post to the memory of all the murdered journalists everywhere.

I would like to express my disappointment to all the teachers you had growing up.

[Alex Libman]

How exactly do we find "Them," though. That's the question really. Where do we start?

Government. All government. If any problems exist in the world that aren't based on the "divine right of kings" delusion, those problems are trivial and easy to solve.


I guess you missed the Mossad references.

What does "Judaism with the Mossad" have to do with Jews at large?

Once again, you can blame a mafia boss without blaming all Italians.


I would like to express my disappointment to all the teachers you had growing up.

Me too. The overwhelming bulk of my intellectual growth took place independently of structured schooling.

[JoeyDonuts]

Government. All government. If any problems exist in the world that aren't based on the "divine right of kings" delusion, those problems are trivial and easy to solve.

Okay, then solve Cold Fusion, cure cancer, regenerate spinal tissue, travel past light speed and figure out How They Cram All That Graham into Golden Grahams.

GO!

[1337m4n]

The overwhelming bulk of my intellectual growth took place independently of structured schooling.

And look what that did to you.

[Donal]

Thanks. So many remarks rushed into my head at that comment, I couldn't handle it all.

[Alex Libman]

Okay, then solve Cold Fusion, cure cancer, regenerate spinal tissue, travel past light speed and figure out How They Cram All That Graham into Golden Grahams.

GO!

Those are not problems. The fact that humans are susceptible to cancer, and that medical solutions for spinal tissue regeneration don't just fall from the sky, are the reality we live in at this time. No one artificially imposed cancer on the human race, the way government has been imposed.

Many other challenges to human quality of life have been solved over time through the natural forces behind the human civilization - science and capitalism (which are really one and the same). And the forces that are contrary to civilization, most notably religion and government (which are really one and the same), have done quite a bit over the centuries to slow down the rate of economic and scientific advancement...

It takes quite a bit of education (and reeducation, if you went to a government-controlled school) to clearly recognize that non-aggression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_principle) is the root of principle of civilization, and that the overwhelming majority of aggression in this world is institutionalized (i.e. government). Many people who are still stuck inside the socialist brainwashing bubble, but who recognize its contradictions, have been known to fall onto many silly theories about the source of evil in this world: "NWO", "Illuminati", a vast conspiracy by a particular ethnic group, etc. They don't see the forest for the trees.

[Dave Rogers]

Those are not problems.

Would you please explain to my sister that her colostomy bag, poor general health, frequent hospitalisation and high probability of dying before her children are old enough to look after themselves are "not problems"?

Dave

[Alex Libman]

We're speaking different languages here. I'm speaking in logic, you're speaking in emotional manipulation.

[Dave Rogers]

No, you're redefining words to suit your purpose. No rational person would deny that, for an individual, suffering from cancer is, or creates, problems. However, you choose to believe that all problems are created by governments, so in support of this you have redefined the word "problem" to exclude anything that is not created by governments. And to refer to this practice as "speaking in logic" is a colossal irony; you're committing the classic logical fallacy of begging the question.

Dave

[Skeptic]

(1) Given billions of people with Internet access, someone is bound to say something stupid. Deal with it.

True, but the chances of that happening increases quite a bit on conspiracy theory web sites.

[Alex Libman]

[...] No rational person would deny that, for an individual, suffering from cancer is, or creates, problems. [...]

My original statement still stands, and I'll repeat it for those who are easily distracted: "If any problems exist in the world that aren't based on the 'divine right of kings' delusion, those problems are trivial and easy to solve."

Choosing to nitpick the word "problem" as a limitation of human capacity only shows the desperation of my critics. "Boo hoo hoo, we're not immortal, so let's worship government, which slows down economic growth and limits our life expectancy, but at least we don't have to think and take individual responsibility for our own lives." What's the logic in that? There is none, just an appeal to pity to distract from the topic at hand.

Our ancestors had limitations when they've just crawled out of whatever primordial goo that was, and I'm sure our descendants will have limitations a million years from now too, with so many galaxies to colonize. Those challenges are natural, they are a part of reality. You can't blame one and two for adding up to three! Government, on the other hand, is a harmful result of human action - a "problem" in the true sense of that word!


True, but the chances of that happening increases quite a bit on conspiracy theory web sites.

So don't go on conspiracy theory web sites. I don't.

[Dave Rogers]

My original statement still stands, and I'll repeat it for those who are easily distracted:

And your argument in its favour is still circular.

Dave

[Alex Libman]

Which argument are you referring to?

(1) That institutionalized violence (i.e. "government") is a problem. That's something we've been discussing for quite some time. Read Murray Rothbard.

(2) That the tragic reality of human mortality should not be used as a distraction when talking about real problems caused by human action. The government is hurting your life expectancy, not helping it. Read Mary Ruwart.

[dudalb]

If any problems exist in the world that aren't based on the 'divine right of kings' delusion, those problems are trivial and easy to solve."

You actually believe that crap?

[Alex Libman]

No, I devote my life to arguments I DON'T believe in. I'm weird like that. :rolleyes:

Your surprise comes from your ignorance. Read up on Anarcho-Capitalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-Capitalism). You might learn something.

[1337m4n]

Which argument are you referring to?

The argument that all "problems" are caused by government.

You supported this argument by defining "problem" so as to exclude anything not created by government.

He is correct; you commit a begging the question (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html) fallacy.








I always have to laugh at people who think that anarchy is some kind of utopia. You want to look at a real-life example of an anarchy? Knock yourself out. (http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html)

[1337m4n]

You want to look at a real-life example of an anarchy? Knock yourself out. (http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html)

I recommend starting your tour of this model utopia by asking the residents for "CP". Maybe you'll find something suited to your personal tastes.

[1337m4n]

Anarcho-Capitalism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-Capitalism)

That's a misnomer if I ever saw one. Capitalism needs property rights and contract law in order to function at all; it needs a mechanism for correcting externalities in order to function at peak efficiency.

[Alex Libman]

The argument that all "problems" are caused by government.

You supported this argument by defining "problem" so as to exclude anything not created by government.

You need to re-read what's been said and think more carefully. I said most, not all. And, as is reasonable for that context, I am defining "problem" as an impediment to human progress within the context of reality, in this dimension, here on planet Earth. Once again, the fact that we're not living on Planet X where water flows uphill and people live forever is not a "problem".


I always have to laugh at people who think that anarchy is some kind of utopia. You want to look at a real-life example of an anarchy? Knock yourself out. (http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html)

Why in your mind is 4chan a better example of Anarcho-Capitalism than this forum? This forum is a privately owned resource, it doesn't have a monopoly on violence. I may disagree with the mods (and I very often do), but I am free to leave at any time and start my own skeptics forum.


I recommend starting your tour of this model utopia by asking the residents for "CP". Maybe you'll find something suited to your personal tastes.

In a free society, I'm sure there would be better CP galleries than that forum freely distributed in public domain. And if you're trying to insult me somehow, it just isn't working.


That's a misnomer if I ever saw one. Capitalism needs property rights and contract law in order to function at all; it needs a mechanism for correcting externalities in order to function at peak efficiency.

Exactly. And the government is the biggest hurdle to that. Half your property isn't yours even in the best of times, and the government can take it all away any time it so chooses.

[Jontg]

I think you're doing a fairly good job of insulting yourself, Libman--and also being a sterling example of why humans need laws and governments in the first place.

[Gord_in_Toronto]

I think you're doing a fairly good job of insulting yourself, Libman--and also being a sterling example of why humans need laws and governments in the first place.


;)