Since we're on a roll, what about Tchaikovsky?

[shemp]

We'll ask the question as it was put to us on an episode of "Farming Club" (http://www.ulrikchristensen.dk/scripts/montypython/farming.html).

[Dorfl]

I didn't figure out you meant Peter Tjajkovskij until after clicking 'Who?'. Different languages having different systems for transcribing cyrillic is inconvenient sometimes...

At least it didn't take me as long as figuring out that the chinese leaders Mao Tse-Tung and Mao Zedong were the same person.

[Tanja]

I didn't figure out you meant Peter Tjajkovskij until after clicking 'Who?'. Different languages having different systems for transcribing cyrillic is inconvenient sometimes...

For me, it's Čajkovski.

[Dorfl]

For me, it's Čajkovski.

Which language is that in?

(And how do you get upside-down ^:s over letters?)

[Tanja]

Which language is that in?
Croatian

(And how do you get upside-down ^:s over letters?)

:D We also have Ć, Dž (counts as one letter), Đ, Š and Ž.

[shemp]

Croatian



:D We also have Ć, Dž (counts as one letter), Đ, Š and Ž.

You must have some great Scrabble games!

[Dorfl]

:D We also have Ć, Dž (counts as one letter), Đ, Š and Ž.

Jeez... and I used to feel proud about Å, Ä and Ö. My patriotism is hurt! :p

[Aitch]

I didn't figure out you meant Peter Tjajkovskij until after clicking 'Who?'. Different languages having different systems for transcribing cyrillic is inconvenient sometimes...


I have an old music book somewhere, from first half of 20thC, where the name is spelled Chaikovsky. Which looks really odd the first time you see it. :eye-poppi

[Dave Rogers]

Tchaikovsky on a roll is a waste of a good composer. He's much more tasty slow-cooked with in red wine with sweet potatoes and shallots and served up on a bed of lettuce with a piece of spam on top.

Dave

[timhau]

Jeez... and I used to feel proud about Å, Ä and Ö. My patriotism is hurt! :p

Don't wørry æbout it, þose moments happen to everüone.

As for Tchaikovsky, a source tells me that Beethoven's got some news he wants to tell him.

[shemp]

Tchaikovsky on a roll is a waste of a good composer. He's much more tasty slow-cooked with in red wine with sweet potatoes and shallots and served up on a bed of lettuce with a piece of spam on top.

Dave

I had that for breakfast.

[fuelair]

Since we're on a roll, what about Tchaikovsky?


Beethoven, last I heard, was supposed to roll over and pass the news on to Tchaikovsky.
Possibly he misheard.

[Oliver]

Tschaikovsky [German spelling] is one of the greatest componists ever.

[fuelair]

No offense Oliver, but could you clarify "componists".

[ddt]

No offense Oliver, but could you clarify "componists".

Composer. In German it's Komponist, in Dutch it's componist.

ETA: in Dutch, the name of the composer in the OP would be: Tsjaikovski.

[fuelair]

Danke!

[ddt]

Danke!

Keine Ursache! You're welcome! Don't mention it (*)!






(*) the war, of course :)

[Damien Evans]

I quite like Tchaikovsky, but don't tell the other metalheads...

[timhau]

Tsjaikovski.

Gesundheit!

Aw, I'm sorry, were you trying to disguise that sneeze?

[Monketey Ghost]

Don't wørry æbout it, þose moments happen to everüone.

As for Tchaikovsky, a source tells me that Beethoven's got some news he wants to tell him.

Let there be light... sound...

[ZirconBlue]

I quite like Tchaikovsky, but don't tell the other metalheads...

Eh. He was pretty "metal" for his time, I think.

[Aitch]

Eh. He was pretty "metal" for his time, I think.

Bearing in mind that Tchai is a Late Romantic composer, doesn't that make him more James Blunt than Lemmy? ;)

Point of information: I MUCH prefer Tchai to Blunt. Come to think of it, I much prefer Lemmy to Blunt, too.

[ZirconBlue]

Bearing in mind that Tchai is a Late Romantic composer, doesn't that make him more James Blunt than Lemmy? ;)

Point of information: I MUCH prefer Tchai to Blunt. Come to think of it, I much prefer Lemmy to Blunt, too.

But in comparison to the Classical period, the Romantic period had a bit of a "bigger, louder, better" character, that metalheads should appreciate.

We need a headbanging smiley.

[Lord Emsworth]

Tschaikovsky [German spelling] is one of the greatest componists ever.

He is one of the best, but we spell him Tschaikowski.[/Rechtschreibnazi]

[Chupacabras]

Tchaikovski, Tolstoi, Trotzki, Gorky, Karamazov, Kruschev... This is complicated.

Option A, since everyone knows that Eisenstein worked for the machinery, so must have all artists.

But I got hooked in an episode of Maxwell Smart (the original, meh!), when the villain tied them good boys in front of a cannon and put a vinyl record of 1812 Overture to disguise the roar of the cannon firing. I'm not spoiling the end, so you enjoy it as much as I!!!

[mdcatdad]

Чайковский

(I guess everyone can read, if not understand this, if they can display Unicode text)

[themusicteacher]

One of my music prof's, as were talking about the orchestral "standard rep," had this to say about Tchaich:

"Half of the Tchaich in the standard rep is crap but it still gets played because once something gets in, it's very difficult to get it out."

Now, I respect this man's musical opinion and he is very experienced as a performer and conductor. I must admit that I don't know the Tchaich rep very well but I can say that I am a bit lukewarm to most of what I have heard. His piano concertos are nice and a few of his symphonies have some memorable moments but I can think of some of his contemporaries that had a much better grasp of melody, line, orchestration, use of instrumentation and overall development of musical ideas. Certainly, as Russian, he is one of the giants but I'm not the guy to say, "boy, I'd like to listen to some Tchaichovsky."

[Aitch]

Don't know if I've mentioned this before but the first 'Classical' LP I ever owned* was of Tchai. The 1812 Overture on one side and the Serenade for Strings on the other. Got bored with the 1812 quite quickly, but still really like the S4S. Which probably marks me down as a pleb/phillistine. ;)

* a present from my grandfather.

[Just thinking]

Many of the Great Composers used local melodies/folk tunes in their works --- Liszt and Dvorak are two prominent ones, and even Beethoven and Brahms used them. As for the 1812 Overture, Tchaikovsky himself didn't care much for it either. But his repertoire is vast, there is much "great" music within it. Unfortunately, though, the most often played music becomes that associated with the composer --- and frequently that which is most often played is not necessarily the best.

[ddt]

Many of the Great Composers used local melodies/folk tunes in their works --- Liszt and Dvorak are two prominent ones, and even Beethoven and Brahms used them.
Composers like Liszt and Dvorak specifically made a point of promoting their national heritage by using it in their compositions. Tchaikovsky, on the other hand, is more of a "western" composer, compared to his Russian comtemporaries.

As an amateur piano player, I'm of course partial to his piano concerto - sorry, his first piano concerto. The most original performance is by Sviatoslav Richter and Rita:

oDUTTRGOJdE

and the most famous by Horowitz with his father-in-law, Toscanini, at the helm, from 1941. Too bad that the sound quality is horrendous, the playing is magnificent.

A bit unoriginal maybe, but his 6th symphony "Pathetique" is also great. I can recommend Mravinsky with the (then) Leningrad Philharmonic.

[Damien Evans]

Bearing in mind that Tchai is a Late Romantic composer, doesn't that make him more James Blunt than Lemmy? ;)

Point of information: I MUCH prefer Tchai to Blunt. Come to think of it, I much prefer Lemmy to Blunt, too.

You're beautiful {balls drop}/unmanly singing:D

[moon1969]

Not a fan of the russians. :mad::D

[Darth Rotor]

Not a fan of the russians. :mad::D
Fine, go and listen to Grieg, then stew in your own juices.

DR