What's with this? [Archive]

JonathanClement

24th March 2009, 10:24 PM

Is this real, or is it more ******** that conspiracy theorists have conjured up to scare the gullible masses?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOHGQ--H13g

quixotecoyote

24th March 2009, 10:36 PM

Would you like to take a guess before we tell you?

Ysidro

24th March 2009, 11:29 PM

Well, I can't watch Youtube at work but I'm going to say "CT ********" anyway. I might be wrong, but it's a safer bet than playing the horses.

JonathanClement

25th March 2009, 12:38 AM

Would you like to take a guess before we tell you?

Uh... It's bull$#!@?

Dave Rogers

25th March 2009, 03:44 AM

Is this real, or is it more ******** that conspiracy theorists have conjured up to scare the gullible masses?

Based on the fact that it's a YouTube video, the probability of (b) is so great that I don't consider it a worthwhile use of my time watching it. Any chance of a quick synopsis?

Dave

Caustic Logic

25th March 2009, 04:59 AM

Interesting. It doesn't look like an overtly fake video, but of course anything can be faked. It's a long-hovering bright glowing cloudlike thing that looks precisely like a silhouette for Jesus on the Cross, including body outline and INRI sign. It's not a coincidence, it's either a fake video or something weird - and no, probably not God, cause he's a Muslim and would be making crescent shapes ;). I'm guessing it's fake.

Red3

26th March 2009, 09:13 AM

I find it interesting that there is a similarly shaped aerial on a roof (sort of similar at least). Some kind of weird reflection?

Or some purposely man made light show. The "project bluebeam" technology doesn't seem so outrageously far fetched, although i don't agree with the theory that goes with it.

twinstead

26th March 2009, 09:28 AM

MG1962

26th March 2009, 09:54 AM

Based on the fact that it's a YouTube video, the probability of (b) is so great that I don't consider it a worthwhile use of my time watching it. Any chance of a quick synopsis?

Dave

I would spend the 1.18 to watch it. It is quiet interesting. The person filming seems to do the right thing ie pan out and in again, also they fiddle with the light sensitivity.

The light source is puzzling. The sun appears to the left of the phenomena, yet the object itself is brighter on the right hand side. Intuitively this would seem to suggest a secondary light source

The lack of reaction from the camera person is puzzling. If it was genuine I would expect them to be sceaming the house down

Finally I would not be suprised to know a local church has some sort of searchlight going, and they have picked up some low haze...aka batman signal

Red3

26th March 2009, 10:10 AM

That's what I though as well re: the cameraman...Seems rather calm and collected.

Gagglegnash

26th March 2009, 02:22 PM

Hi

Driving home the other day, we saw one, and it seemed to me that everyone else on the road saw it, too.

It wasn't quite so... crucifictional, but it was ver much two horizontal bars, slightly shorter one on top, connected by a vertical stripe.

While ours was more of a sideways H, it still pretty much covered the bases.

Redtail

27th March 2009, 02:51 AM

:jaw-dropp That... That's the sun reflecting off of a Star Destroyer !!!!!

http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/StarDestroyer.jpg

JonathanClement

27th March 2009, 04:08 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X_Qy-Yj8Jc&feature=channel_page

Check out my debunking of it!

Foolmewunz

27th March 2009, 07:47 AM

I found the following even more astonishing work on the same page as that video.

Love the language.
(Love the hillarious assumptions.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNNxEKSP144&feature=related

Red3

27th March 2009, 08:04 AM

i found the following even more astonishing work on the same page as that video.

Love the language.
(love the hillarious assumptions.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnnxeksp144&feature=related

Wtf!! I'm guessing english isn't his first language?? Wtf!! :D

If he thinks that's a martian lizard he'd be creaming himself over my grey's head paperweight.

Drudgewire

27th March 2009, 08:44 AM

Is this real, or is it more ******** that conspiracy theorists have conjured up to scare the gullible masses?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOHGQ--H13g

Look at his other videos like "Resist the NWO," "Exposing Chemtrails" and "Holly+Wood: Masters of Mind Control" and you'll get a good idea of the type of person willing to believe this.

I found the following even more astonishing work on the same page as that video.

I wound up being led to a bunch of stuff on the "UFO Tether Incident." :rolleyes:

Foolmewunz

27th March 2009, 08:53 AM

Look at his other videos like "Resist the NWO," "Exposing Chemtrails" and "Holly+Wood: Masters of Mind Control" and you'll get a good idea of the type of person willing to believe this.

I wound up being led to a bunch of stuff on the "UFO Tether Incident." :rolleyes:

Hmmm? I'm in Hong Kong and go through a Chinese language YouTube, but the above poster seems to have gotten through to it.

GStan

27th March 2009, 09:22 AM

My impression from watching was that cameraman is indoors and the image is being reflected from somewhere in the room onto the window that he/she is filming through.

Gagglegnash

28th March 2009, 10:55 AM

Hi

My impression from watching was that cameraman is indoors and the image is being reflected from somewhere in the room onto the window that he/she is filming through.

No - it's an actual atmospheric phenomenon. I've seen one. I just don't know what causes it.

I only had a few seconds to look, but it seemed to be (and that's as close as I can come) two cloud strata with something going between them... possibly a localized rain shower, as it had that... uhhh... rain-shower-in-the-distancey kind of look to it.

Another important addition was the setting sun. It seemed to me that what I was actually seeing was the bottom of one set of clouds, forming the top bar, and the top of another set of clouds, forming the bottom bar. If the sun's position had been slightly different, either higher or lower, the effect wouldn't have been visible because one or the other sets of cloud shadows would have hidden the vertical bar.

Oliver

30th March 2009, 06:20 AM

My impression from watching was that cameraman is indoors and the image is being reflected from somewhere in the room onto the window that he/she is filming through.

Yep. Even Jim`s debunking looks scary if you look at the reflections of his monitor within his glasses. :D

[Which is absolutely the same kind of effect/reflection as in the "cross-cloud video": Bright object outside the field of view reflected by glass within field of view]

Yawn.

Gagglegnash

1st April 2009, 05:44 PM

TriskettheKid

1st April 2009, 06:04 PM

Hi

I found it!

It's called a, "sun pillar."

Check out This One (http://www.nebraskaweatherphotos.org/Dsc_6446d70sm3.jpg) from Nebreaska Weather Photos dot Org (http://www.nebraskaweatherphotos.org/). Nice horizontal and vertical elements.

...or This One (http://www.skychasers.net/pillar1_copy.jpg) from SkyChasers dot Net (http://www.skychasers.net/). Very horizontal-H-ey.

Stuff just happens. What the Hell!
---Didactylos

That's not a sun pillar.

Sun pillars do not have horizontal elements.

Looking at the image, and the sharpness of the horizontal elements, I'm going to call this a case of photoshop.

Unless there's another angle, or something clearer.

Gagglegnash

2nd April 2009, 06:30 AM

Hi

That's not a sun pillar.

Sun pillars do not have horizontal elements.

Looking at the image, and the sharpness of the horizontal elements, I'm going to call this a case of photoshop.

Unless there's another angle, or something clearer.

Ummm....

I posted links to two photos with horizontal elements, right?

Ok - second one's broken, some how...

http://www.skychasers.net/pillar1_copy.jpg

You are correct, however, that sun pillars, per se, do not have horizontal elements. Those are provided, as I mentioned above, by cloud strata.

TriskettheKid

2nd April 2009, 08:07 AM

Hi

Ummm....

I posted links to two photos with horizontal elements, right?

Ok - second one's broken, some how...

http://www.skychasers.net/pillar1_copy.jpg

You are correct, however, that sun pillars, per se, do not have horizontal elements. Those are provided, as I mentioned above, by cloud strata.

Those aren't really elements of the pillar.

If you take a look at the video again, you'll see that the horizontal elements are FAR too defined to come from a cloud, nor do the horizontal elements radiate outwards from the pillar itself.

I'm still going to call this one a photoshopped video, unless some more compelling evidence comes up.

Caustic Logic

2nd April 2009, 11:28 PM

Agreed with Triskit. Cool avatar too. I also like Gagglenash's avatar, and sun pillar is a worthwhile phenom to consider. Perhaps it was originally a sun pillar-and-strata video that looked a bit like a cross, then edited to really look like a cross. I'm also going to go out on a limb here and guess that the video faker is of some Catholic persuasion.