View Full Version : Alex Jones apologizes for his offensive remarks about Jews
1337m4n
1st April 2009, 09:45 AM
Looks like his heart has finally grown three sizes.
Good for you, Alex Jones. Good for you.
Linky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHCCU8kl864&feature=related
Doctor Evil
1st April 2009, 10:02 AM
Can't expect to fool us with this.
dudalb
1st April 2009, 10:15 AM
Where is Tin Foil Timothy, who so vehemently denied that Jones ever said anything Anti Semitic, now that Jones has admitted it?
Although I think that Jones is apology is like that of the thief who is really not sorry he stole but very sorry he got caught and has to face the consequences....
Ohnoes
1st April 2009, 10:22 AM
I just can't believe it...
JohnG
1st April 2009, 11:14 AM
Worst April Fools' joke EVER.
dudalb
1st April 2009, 11:36 AM
I can't play You Tube videos at work, so I presume this was a APril Days Joke I just fell for.
Thought I could actually see jones making a "apology "for people misunderstanding his "Anti Zionist" remarks as being Ante Jewish...
Ohnoes
1st April 2009, 12:49 PM
I can't play You Tube videos at work, so I presume this was a APril Days Joke I just fell for.
Thought I could actually see jones making a "apology "for people misunderstanding his "Anti Zionist" remarks as being Ante Jewish...
LOL and I thought you were just playing along...:D
malcolmxwarrior
1st April 2009, 01:50 PM
YOu don't need to apologize Alex. They STILL haven't apologized for killing jesus so why should we apologize for being "Anti-semitic"?
They are the ones that kill semitic peoples. THEY are the ones that are anti-semitic! Who killed all these Iraqis in Iraq? Those people are anti-semitic! They should apologize for the USS liberty! They haven't. They should apologize for bankrupting the United states! They haven't! They should apologize for 9/11! They haven't.
I want every jew in this forum to do either one of two things. Condemn the events, or Apologize for the events!
IF you want any respect from me.
Subliminal
1st April 2009, 02:03 PM
How can they kill a man who did not exist?
malcolmxwarrior
1st April 2009, 02:11 PM
How can they kill a man who did not exist?
Jesus. You know jesus. Jesus of nazareth? Great guy. Fought the pharisees out of his fathers house?
TriskettheKid
1st April 2009, 02:12 PM
YOu don't need to apologize Alex. They STILL haven't apologized for killing jesus so why should we apologize for being "Anti-semitic"?
They are the ones that kill semitic peoples. THEY are the ones that are anti-semitic! Who killed all these Iraqis in Iraq? Those people are anti-semitic! They should apologize for the USS liberty! They haven't. They should apologize for bankrupting the United states! They haven't! They should apologize for 9/11! They haven't.
I want every jew in this forum to do either one of two things. Condemn the events, or Apologize for the events!
IF you want any respect from me.
Tell you what:
You get the British to apologize for the execution of Louis XVI.
Then we'll talk about Jews apologizing for the death of Jesus.
By the way:
Why do you even WANT an apology for that? You should be happy. His death (and resurrection) allows you to be "saved" doesn't it? Wouldn't him not dying kind of negate your own religion?
parky76
1st April 2009, 02:16 PM
YOu don't need to apologize Alex. They STILL haven't apologized for killing jesus so why should we apologize for being "Anti-semitic"? .
Not only do I NOT apologize for my ancestors nailing Jesus to the cross, but I personally CELEBRATE the event every Good Friday!!!
God, if only I was there to have whipped that false-prophet pedophile priest into submission. That piece of trash should have been beaten to a pulp..and then hung upside down on the cross.
:p
parky76
1st April 2009, 02:17 PM
Jesus. You know jesus. Jesus of nazareth? Great guy. Fought the pharisees out of his fathers house?
And then the Pharisees showed that pedophile priest who is boss. =P
Infoexcavator
1st April 2009, 02:23 PM
This is funny considering how in the other thread in this section Alex is supposedly being sued after making an angry phone call to a writer who attacked him because his wife is rumoured to be jewish.
malcolmxwarrior
1st April 2009, 02:28 PM
Not only do I NOT apologize for my ancestors nailing Jesus to the cross, but I personally CELEBRATE the event every Good Friday!!!
God, if only I was there to have whipped that false-prophet pedophile priest into submission. That piece of trash should have been beaten to a pulp..and then hung upside down on the cross.
:p
Yet I was the one that was suspended!
All I ask of you evil jews is to either condemn the events, or apologize for the events. Is that asking so much? Gee wiz!
malcolmxwarrior
1st April 2009, 02:29 PM
This is funny considering how in the other thread in this section Alex is supposedly being sued after making an angry phone call to a writer who attacked him because his wife is rumoured to be jewish.
I thought his wife was mexican?
garethdjb
1st April 2009, 02:31 PM
If anyone should apologise, it's Rick Astley.
malcolmxwarrior
1st April 2009, 02:38 PM
And then the Pharisees showed that pedophile priest who is boss. =P
Can you show me the passage where you believe that jesus was a pedophile? Direct me to it. I would really like to see/read it.
TriskettheKid
1st April 2009, 03:22 PM
Tell you what Malcolm:
You get the British to apologize for the beheading of Louis the XVI.
You do that, then we can talk.
1337m4n
1st April 2009, 03:30 PM
YOu don't need to apologize Alex. They STILL haven't apologized for killing jesus so why should we apologize for being "Anti-semitic"?
They are the ones that kill semitic peoples. THEY are the ones that are anti-semitic! Who killed all these Iraqis in Iraq? Those people are anti-semitic! They should apologize for the USS liberty! They haven't. They should apologize for bankrupting the United states! They haven't! They should apologize for 9/11! They haven't.
I want every jew in this forum to do either one of two things. Condemn the events, or Apologize for the events!
IF you want any respect from me.
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this is your April Fool's joke.
Ohnoes
1st April 2009, 04:24 PM
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this is your April Fool's joke.
A never ending April fools joke!:rolleyes:
dudalb
1st April 2009, 04:30 PM
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this is your April Fool's joke.
Are you familiar with MXW's posting history?
Rogue1stclass
1st April 2009, 04:31 PM
YOu don't need to apologize Alex. They STILL haven't apologized for killing jesus so why should we apologize for being "Anti-semitic"?
They are the ones that kill semitic peoples. THEY are the ones that are anti-semitic! Who killed all these Iraqis in Iraq? Those people are anti-semitic! They should apologize for the USS liberty! They haven't. They should apologize for bankrupting the United states! They haven't! They should apologize for 9/11! They haven't.
I want every jew in this forum to do either one of two things. Condemn the events, or Apologize for the events!
IF you want any respect from me.
So, basically you are saying that the entire ethnicity/religion is to blame for the actions of some of its members?
Wow. That's right out of the KKK handbook.
But, just so you know, as an Irish-American, I do apologize for the Gaelic invasion of Scotland which (along with the Romans, but they get a pass on Jesus so I'm assuming they do here too) destroyed Pictish culture. I will even offer any Caladonians reparations in the form of a beer. It will be a Guiness, though.
boloboffin
1st April 2009, 04:42 PM
If they want any respect from you?
Is this a trick question?
cwalner
1st April 2009, 05:55 PM
YOu don't need to apologize Alex. They STILL haven't apologized for killing jesus so why should we apologize for being "Anti-semitic"?
They are the ones that kill semitic peoples. THEY are the ones that are anti-semitic! Who killed all these Iraqis in Iraq? Those people are anti-semitic! They should apologize for the USS liberty! They haven't. They should apologize for bankrupting the United states! They haven't! They should apologize for 9/11! They haven't.
I want every jew in this forum to do either one of two things. Condemn the events, or Apologize for the events!
IF you want any respect from me.
On behalf of myself as a Jew on this forum the only thing I really have to say to you would be in clear violation of rules 2, 5, 9, 10, 11, and 12 so I will have to refrain.
While I can't speak for the other Jews on the forum, I imagine most of them would agree with me (Parky's comments already indicate that he likely does)
Oh, and l337m4n, great video, I never realized that AJ was redheaded though
Hans
1st April 2009, 06:22 PM
Being part Danish I apologize for my Viking ancestors pillaging Europe and taking lands from the lesser folks. Even if you WERE asking for it.
eirik
1st April 2009, 06:30 PM
YOu don't need to apologize Alex. They STILL haven't apologized for killing jesus so why should we apologize for being "Anti-semitic"?
They are the ones that kill semitic peoples. THEY are the ones that are anti-semitic! Who killed all these Iraqis in Iraq? Those people are anti-semitic! They should apologize for the USS liberty! They haven't. They should apologize for bankrupting the United states! They haven't! They should apologize for 9/11! They haven't.
I want every jew in this forum to do either one of two things. Condemn the events, or Apologize for the events!
IF you want any respect from me.
Your respect is extremely unwanted.
UNLoVedRebel
1st April 2009, 06:45 PM
I thought Alex Jones was anti-anti-semitic. Hence, his infamous battle with Prothink and Prothink's strict, "blame the Jews only, well you can blame Anglo-Saxons too but you have to say they were pawns of the Jews" rule of 9/11 Truth. Hell, Alex Jones even said "Arabs own Hollywood." That had even me going WTF. :wackyconfused:
Sword_Of_Truth
1st April 2009, 09:19 PM
Not only do I NOT apologize for my ancestors nailing Jesus to the cross, but I personally CELEBRATE the event every Good Friday!!!
God, if only I was there to have whipped that false-prophet pedophile priest into submission. That piece of trash should have been beaten to a pulp..and then hung upside down on the cross.
:p
Malcolm is a non-issue, but is there anyone who takes Parky seriously anymore?
malcolmxwarrior
1st April 2009, 09:41 PM
On behalf of myself as a Jew on this forum the only thing I really have to say to you would be in clear violation of rules 2, 5, 9, 10, 11, and 12 so I will have to refrain.
While I can't speak for the other Jews on the forum, I imagine most of them would agree with me (Parky's comments already indicate that he likely does)
Oh, and l337m4n, great video, I never realized that AJ was redheaded though
You won't even condemn the acts?
That's pathetic. And you wonder why there is "anti-semitism" out there.
You won't condemn the attack on the USS liberty? You wont condemn the act of not releasing vital information prior to 9/11?
JoeyDonuts
1st April 2009, 09:47 PM
For someone whose handle invokes the Black Power movement, you sure seem to be upset at the wrong people. Or did you just go ahead and swallow the Farrakhan idiocy hook line and sinker? You know, he's a Muslim and doesn't give two spits about your "Christian" ideology.
Or, let me guess...you're a poor wise and righteous 5% Nation nutter.
malcolmxwarrior
1st April 2009, 09:48 PM
I thought Alex Jones was anti-anti-semitic. Hence, his infamous battle with Prothink and Prothink's strict, "blame the Jews only, well you can blame Anglo-Saxons too but you have to say they were pawns of the Jews" rule of 9/11 Truth. Hell, Alex Jones even said "Arabs own Hollywood." That had even me going WTF. :wackyconfused:
Yeah, funny you mentioned prothink. I used to be a big AJ fan. So did prothink. Prothink came to the conclusion that AJ was a disinfo agent. I thought that AJ was the closest one to the question behind the powers that be. Prothink is actually the one that knows the problem. There have been many that have identified the problem, but none of them have a good answer. I'm with prothink on the jews. He's right about the jews, but prothink is a neo-nazi hitler loving fascist. So he's out.
AJ fans thinking they're all smart. "boo bilderbergers" "BOO CFR" "BOO tri-lateral commission"
They don't even realize that AJ is leading 'em down a rabbit hole.
If prothink wasn't a nazi fascist, he'd be alright.
malcolmxwarrior
1st April 2009, 09:50 PM
For someone whose handle invokes the Black Power movement, you sure seem to be upset at the wrong people. Or did you just go ahead and swallow the Farrakhan idiocy hook line and sinker? You know, he's a Muslim and doesn't give two spits about your "Christian" ideology.
Or, let me guess...you're a poor wise and righteous 5% Nation nutter.
Yeah ok. It's not just malcolm X.
It's winston Churchill and Benjamin Franklin and voltaire and charles lindbergh and george washington and jesus christ and muhammad.
So if we're all nutters in your guys' eyes, then I'm in good company.
JoeyDonuts
1st April 2009, 09:54 PM
Yeah ok. It's not just malcolm X.
It's winston Churchill and Benjamin Franklin and voltaire and charles lindbergh and george washington and jesus christ and muhammad.
So if we're all nutters in your guys' eyes, then I'm in good company.
You're confused kid. The Nation of Gods and Earths have never claimed any of those people you just listed. Or did the 5% reference zing past your head?
malcolmxwarrior
1st April 2009, 09:58 PM
You're confused kid. The Nation of Gods and Earths have never claimed any of those people you just listed. Or did the 5% reference zing past your head?
All the people I listed YOU would call, an "anti-semite"
JoeyDonuts
1st April 2009, 10:05 PM
All the people I listed YOU would call, an "anti-semite"
Nope. Don't presume to tell me what MY knowledge is.
The only two I would consider Anti-Semites are Charles Lindbergh and Muhammad.
The rest you can go ahead and chalk up to hoaxes and internet kookery.
truethat
1st April 2009, 10:09 PM
Tell you what:
You get the British to apologize for the execution of Louis XVI.
Then we'll talk about Jews apologizing for the death of Jesus.
By the way:
Why do you even WANT an apology for that? You should be happy. His death (and resurrection) allows you to be "saved" doesn't it? Wouldn't him not dying kind of negate your own religion?
Thank you, that''s never made any sense to me either. Without the Jews there would be no Christ.
UNLoVedRebel
1st April 2009, 10:18 PM
Yeah, funny you mentioned prothink. I used to be a big AJ fan. So did prothink. Prothink came to the conclusion that AJ was a disinfo agent. I thought that AJ was the closest one to the question behind the powers that be. Prothink is actually the one that knows the problem. There have been many that have identified the problem, but none of them have a good answer. I'm with prothink on the jews. He's right about the jews, but prothink is a neo-nazi hitler loving fascist. So he's out.
AJ fans thinking they're all smart. "boo bilderbergers" "BOO CFR" "BOO tri-lateral commission"
They don't even realize that AJ is leading 'em down a rabbit hole.
If prothink wasn't a nazi fascist, he'd be alright.
I haven't heard AJ say one thing bad about the Jews. Not that I ever listen to him, but still, he seems to be a strict "blame the Anglo-Saxons" conspiracy theorist. That sure as hell didn't fly with Prothink. Someone tell prothink that Jews aren't responsible for every problem in world history. He will flip the &#%* out.
ETA: I've had my battles with Prothink too. Go to my "hate mail" thread (in AAH :wackymad:) and read the first PM in the OP. That was from prothink. Can't you tell? It's got his name written all over it.
Malkuth
1st April 2009, 11:33 PM
Not only do I NOT apologize for my ancestors nailing Jesus to the cross, but I personally CELEBRATE the event every Good Friday!!!
God, if only I was there to have whipped that false-prophet pedophile priest into submission. That piece of trash should have been beaten to a pulp..and then hung upside down on the cross.
:p
Not only have I stopped taking this guy seriously, but I can't even force myself to admit he's human anymore.
Such venomous glee.... mind boggling
Redtail
1st April 2009, 11:54 PM
Yeah ok. It's not just malcolm X.
It's winston Churchill and Benjamin Franklin and voltaire and charles lindbergh and george washington and jesus christ and muhammad.
So if we're all nutters in your guys' eyes, then I'm in good company.
If it's Sammy Davis Jr., Jon Stuart, Mother Mary, Murray Gell-Mann, Issac Asmonov, Carl Sagan, and Hyman Rickover, I'm in good company.... Plus i get points for all of my people being real.
Eddie Dane
2nd April 2009, 02:11 AM
Oh, what the hell.
I apologise for the Romans killing Jesus, after consulting a Jewish mob.
But please remember it was because the tricks were really bad.
Walking on water, water into wine. Puh-lease.
We haven't nailed Uri Gellar to a tree yet, and he isn't that great either.
Rogue1stclass
2nd April 2009, 02:16 AM
Oh, what the hell.
I apologise for the Romans killing Jesus, after consulting a Jewish mob.
But please remember it was because the tricks were really bad.
Walking on water, water into wine. Puh-lease.
We haven't nailed Uri Gellar to a tree yet, and he isn't that great either.
Water into wine would be extremely handy. The Romans were just mad because he wouldn't do it for them.
But no comment on destroying Pictish (not to mention Gaulic, British, and Celt-Iberian) culture? You fiend.
Oh, and as part Cherokee, I also apologize for Lacross.
JoeyDonuts
2nd April 2009, 02:26 AM
Well, to be part of my little group, you gotta REALLY hate the Romans.
garethdjb
2nd April 2009, 03:20 AM
But, just so you know, as an Irish-American, I do apologize for the Gaelic invasion of Scotland which (along with the Romans, but they get a pass on Jesus so I'm assuming they do here too) destroyed Pictish culture. I will even offer any Caladonians reparations in the form of a beer. It will be a Guiness, though.
As an Englishman I would like to personally apologise to you for the potato famine. Please accept this Maris Piper as a token of my sincere regret.
Rogue1stclass
2nd April 2009, 03:46 AM
As an Englishman I would like to personally apologise to you for the potato famine. Please accept this Maris Piper as a token of my sincere regret.
And I apologize for the Troubles, which I'm doubly complicit because I share a name with one of the founders of the IRA.
Since that is more recent, I will up my reparations to a shot of Tullmore Dew.
My girlfriend has Italian, Portugeuse and German blood. Her apologies are gonna take a while.
Eddie Dane
2nd April 2009, 03:52 AM
I'm not Jewish, technically.
It's more: Dutch, Jewish, Frisian (Germanic), Polish, Russian.
But My wife is Italian, German with some Croatian thrown in for good measure.
Which make my kids...Oh never mind.
Anyway, I speak for my whole family when I apologise for: Jeebus, The battle at Teutoburg Forest, Scattering the Jewish tribes, The pacification of Gaul, WWI, the Holocaust, the Nakba, Italo pop (mid eighties), Colonisation of Indonesia, Slavery, Skunk, Dutch music in general, Showgirls-the movie, Geert Wilders, colonisation of Manhattan, the Dutch service industry in general, Mitsubishi Colt, Siege of Leningrad, attacks on Serb villages, Big Brother, wooden shoes and Srebrenica. Did I miss something?
Does this mean I get to take credit for stuff, also?
cwalner
2nd April 2009, 07:21 AM
You won't even condemn the acts?
That's pathetic. And you wonder why there is "anti-semitism" out there.
You won't condemn the attack on the USS liberty? You wont condemn the act of not releasing vital information prior to 9/11?
In regards to the USS Liberty from wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident)
In the IDF's History Report about the attack, it points out that that "though the attack on the armed forces of a friendly nation is a most regrettable and painful occurrence, incidents of this kind do occur in war-time."[3](p.38).
so it seems that the group of Jews actually responsible for the attack (the IDF) have already apologized for a regretted consequence of being in a war, I see no reason to condemn thier actions.
In regards to 9/11, please show any evidence that any Jew intentionally did anything to perpetrate or facilitate the attack and I will gladly condemn those actions.
TriskettheKid
2nd April 2009, 08:02 AM
In regards to 9/11, please show any evidence that any Jew intentionally did anything to perpetrate or facilitate the attack and I will gladly condemn those actions.
It was I.
In the Kitchen.
With the detonator.
Rogue1stclass
2nd April 2009, 08:05 AM
Does this mean I get to take credit for stuff, also?
While I failed bigotry in high school, I'm pretty sure that you don't. I think it works out that the entire ethnicity/race/religion is responsible for the bad things but only individuals get the credit for the good things because they had to rise above their station.
Ohnoes
2nd April 2009, 08:10 AM
It was I.
In the Kitchen.
With the detonator.
AH Man!
I had Parky in the Study with a Bazooka.:mad:
cwalner
2nd April 2009, 08:39 AM
It was I.
In the Kitchen.
With the detonator.
And you would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those darned kids
TriskettheKid
2nd April 2009, 08:52 AM
And you would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those darned kids
No, for you see, the kids were young Christians. And Passover is coming up.
And as I'm sure Malcolm will tell you, we Jews use the blood of young Christians to make our matzot.
So, for those darned kids:
It was I.
In the Conservatory.
With a juicer.
cwalner
2nd April 2009, 09:11 AM
No, for you see, the kids were young Christians. And Passover is coming up.
And as I'm sure Malcolm will tell you, we Jews use the blood of young Christians to make our matzot.
So, for those darned kids:
It was I.
In the Conservatory.
With a juicer.
It's this type of misinformation that really gets me upset.
Its the kosher wine that needs the blood. We use the ground up bones for Matzoh
dudalb
2nd April 2009, 11:00 AM
Well, to be part of my little group, you gotta REALLY hate the Romans.
After all, what have they done for us lately?
malcolmxwarrior
2nd April 2009, 01:07 PM
Oh, what the hell.
I apologise for the Romans killing Jesus, after consulting a Jewish mob.
But please remember it was because the tricks were really bad.
Walking on water, water into wine. Puh-lease.
We haven't nailed Uri Gellar to a tree yet, and he isn't that great either.
I mean, come on guys. I condemn the LA riots.
Your turn. Apologize or condemn the attack on the USS liberty where Israel deliberately killed 34 American servicemen to get them to fight their war against egypt. Apologize or condemn 9/11 where you guys were at fault.
dudalb
2nd April 2009, 01:09 PM
God, I hope MXW passes over the line and gives the mods an excuse to ban his butt.
malcolmxwarrior
2nd April 2009, 01:16 PM
In regards to the USS Liberty from wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident)
so it seems that the group of Jews actually responsible for the attack (the IDF) have already apologized for a regretted consequence of being in a war, I see no reason to condemn thier actions.
In regards to 9/11, please show any evidence that any Jew intentionally did anything to perpetrate or facilitate the attack and I will gladly condemn those actions.
I can direct you to the documentary 9/11missinglinks. That is a good doc showing who REALLY profited off of 9/11.
The USS liberty is something that the american jewish appeasers and zionist jews in israel have covered up. They lied excessively until it was accepted as mainstream. That is what they do!
So you won't condemn the attack on the USS liberty where 34 American servicemen were killed and 170 wounded? Does that mean you approve of it ?
Do you approve of the deliberate attack on the Liberty? How they clearly saw the ship was American and it was one of the most recognized reconnaissance ships in it's day? How they purposefully jammed radio communications so they couldn't radio for help and how dean rusk and LBJ screamed to have the men be pulled back after it was confirmed that it was an Israeli attack not an egyptian attack, like that plan was drawn up. We almost had WW3 in '67 had these psychos in washington and tel aviv succeeded. [/rant
malcolmxwarrior
2nd April 2009, 01:17 PM
God, I hope MXW passes over the line and gives the mods an excuse to ban his butt.
Or really?
Are you one of those appeasers for the zionist jews in Israel?
1337m4n
2nd April 2009, 01:25 PM
malcolmxwarrior, April Fool's Day is over. You can stop pretending to be a rabid, foam-at-the-mouth, racist lunatic now.
malcolmxwarrior
2nd April 2009, 01:28 PM
malcolmxwarrior, April Fool's Day is over. You can stop pretending to be a rabid, foam-at-the-mouth, racist lunatic now.
Wastin' my time?
Don't waste my time.
My last post I said Zionist jews. So a political movement and a religion. I am not against a religion. But the jews call identify themselves as a race. I was criticizing a political movement.
Zionism, a dirty, racist, marxist movement in itself!
TriskettheKid
2nd April 2009, 02:08 PM
Or really?
Are you one of those appeasers for the zionist jews in Israel?
Just the Zionist Muslims.
They are much more fun.
JoeyDonuts
2nd April 2009, 08:27 PM
Do you approve of the deliberate attack on the Liberty? How they clearly saw the ship was American and it was one of the most recognized reconnaissance ships in it's day?
Prove any of this. I dare you.
Prove that the IDF had positively ID'd the ship as the USS Liberty before going weapons free.
Prove that it was one of the 'most recognized reconnaissance ships' in its day.
And by the way, kid, you obviously don't know squat about intelligence gathering. A SIGINT AGI that is the 'most recognized reconnaissance ship' is one that isn't doing its job very well.
You can't prove a damn thing. You're spouting internet delusions as if you know what it is you're talking about.
And how exactly was this supposed to have been covered up when the Israeli government apologized profusely, made financial reparations to the U.S. Government - and the USG didn't cover it up either. I've stood at the memorial plaque at Corry Station in Pensacola for the crew that died. I've perused their Cryptology Museum's thorough collection of research on the event. Hard Copy. Know what that is?
It was an awful mistake, and if the Bush Administration had been half as transparent as the Israeli Government was following the incident, it wouldn't have given rise to as many kooky 9/11 conspiracy theories for kids like you to swallow hook, line, and sinker.
moon1969
2nd April 2009, 09:04 PM
I have always said that since russians seem to hate jews so much than jews must be good people. P.S. it is not like the finnish jews here are fans of the russian horde.
malcolmxwarrior
2nd April 2009, 11:44 PM
Prove any of this. I dare you.
Prove that the IDF had positively ID'd the ship as the USS Liberty before going weapons free.
Prove that it was one of the 'most recognized reconnaissance ships' in its day.
And by the way, kid, you obviously don't know squat about intelligence gathering. A SIGINT AGI that is the 'most recognized reconnaissance ship' is one that isn't doing its job very well.
You can't prove a damn thing. You're spouting internet delusions as if you know what it is you're talking about.
And how exactly was this supposed to have been covered up when the Israeli government apologized profusely, made financial reparations to the U.S. Government - and the USG didn't cover it up either. I've stood at the memorial plaque at Corry Station in Pensacola for the crew that died. I've perused their Cryptology Museum's thorough collection of research on the event. Hard Copy. Know what that is?
It was an awful mistake, and if the Bush Administration had been half as transparent as the Israeli Government was following the incident, it wouldn't have given rise to as many kooky 9/11 conspiracy theories for kids like you to swallow hook, line, and sinker.
An awful mistake? How gullible are you? Aren't you a skeptic?
Look the guys at 9/11 missinglinks do a good job on the attack. http://www.911missinglinks.com/
Israel lied. plain and simple. It was a deliberate attack. Johnson approved of it so that they can broaden the six day war.
I don't care where you've been or what you've seen. If you swallow the whole entire lie that those lying israeli rats fed you than you area traitor in my eyes. That wasn't the first time they have attempted something that dire. If you recall the lavon affair. Watch missinglinks. They will tell you the truth.
This is from wikipedia U.S. rescue attempts: At least two rescue attempts were launched from U.S. aircraft carriers nearby but were recalled, according to David Lewis. Lewis wrote and made an audio recording about a meeting 6th Fleet Rear Admiral Lawrence Geis requested in his cabins: "He told me that since I was the senior Liberty survivor on board he wanted to tell me in confidence what had actually transpired. He told me that upon receipt of our SOS, aircraft were launched to come to our assistance and then Washington was notified. He said that the Secretary of Defense (Robert McNamara) had ordered that the aircraft be returned to the carrier which was done. RADM Geis then said that he speculated that Washington may have suspected that the aircraft carried nuclear weapons so he put together another flight of conventional aircraft that had no capability of carrying nuclear weapons. These he launched to assist us and again notified Washington of his actions. Again McNamara ordered the aircraft recalled. He requested confirmation of the order being unable to believe that Washington would let us sink. This time President Johnson ordered the recall with the comment that he did not care if every man drowned and the ship sank, but that he would not embarrass his allies. This is, to the best of my ability, what I recall transpiring 30 years ago."
Israeli ships' actions after the torpedo hit: Officers and men of Liberty claim that after the torpedo attack and the abandon ship order, motor torpedo boats strafed the ship's topside with automatic gunfire preventing men from escaping from below, and either machine-gunned or confiscated the empty life rafts that had been set afloat [wikipedia
malcolmxwarrior
2nd April 2009, 11:46 PM
In 2003, journalist Peter Hounam wrote Operation Cyanide: How the Bombing of the USS Liberty Nearly Caused World War III, which proposes a completely different theory regarding the incident. In an attempt to explain why there was no support by U.S. forces as backup, Hounam claims that Israel and U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson had secretly agreed on day four of the Six Day War that Liberty would be sunk with complete loss of life. The attack would be blamed on Egypt, allowing the U.S. in turn to attack Egypt, thus helping out Israel. However, according to Hounam's theory, because the Liberty did not sink after two hours, the plan was quickly reversed, Israel apologized for the case of mistaken identity, and a cover-up put into place.
Same conclusion I came to.
I recommend these books for you to read. Unless you have already read them.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b_0_12?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=uss+liberty+dead+in+the+water&x=0&y=0&sprefix=USS+Liberty+
malcolmxwarrior
2nd April 2009, 11:47 PM
Just the Zionist Muslims.
They are much more fun.
I don't think you will find many muslims sympathetic to the zionist cause.
Not funny.
JoeyDonuts
3rd April 2009, 12:18 AM
I don't care where you've been or what you've seen. If you swallow the whole entire lie that those lying israeli rats fed you than you area traitor in my eyes.
That's rich. I've done more to uphold your right to spew this unsubstantiated filth than you can possibly fathom, child.
So even though I celebrate your right to :words: :words: :words: your Protocols of Zion-influenced nonsense, as far as I'm concerned you can ***SELF-EDITED FOR CIVILITY***
And besides, you didn't prove that Israel had positively ID'd the ship as the USS Liberty, or even a US ship of any kind and decided to fire anyway.
And you won't, because that isn't what happened no matter how much your twisted worldview wants it that way.
Eddie Dane
3rd April 2009, 12:49 AM
In 2003, journalist Peter Hounam wrote Operation Cyanide: How the Bombing of the USS Liberty Nearly Caused World War III, which proposes a completely different theory regarding the incident. In an attempt to explain why there was no support by U.S. forces as backup, Hounam claims that Israel and U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson had secretly agreed on day four of the Six Day War that Liberty would be sunk with complete loss of life. The attack would be blamed on Egypt, allowing the U.S. in turn to attack Egypt, thus helping out Israel. However, according to Hounam's theory, because the Liberty did not sink after two hours, the plan was quickly reversed, Israel apologized for the case of mistaken identity, and a cover-up put into place.
Same conclusion I came to.
I recommend these books for you to read. Unless you have already read them.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b_0_12?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=uss+liberty+dead+in+the+water&x=0&y=0&sprefix=USS+Liberty+
I see that we've moved on to the anti-Semites favourite friendly fire incident and alleged nonsensical, impossible, unworkable and unnecessary conspiracy.
I do admit that I'm really tickled by the concept of one of the world's most recognised spy ships. LOL
And I suspect you're not all that familiar with Malcolm X's later writings. You know, after he stopped being a tool for a nutty hate group?
Sword_Of_Truth
3rd April 2009, 01:26 AM
I don't think you will find many muslims sympathetic to the zionist cause.
You will if you look.
http://arabsforisrael.blogspot.com/2009/02/archive-of-emails-from-arabs-and.html
tsig
3rd April 2009, 06:11 AM
Well, to be part of my little group, you gotta REALLY hate the Romans.
I've hated the Romans since I had to study Latin:
Latin is a dead language
As dead as dead can be
All are dead who spoke it
All are dead who wrote it
All will die who learn it
Oh Latin let me be!
(Anon)
tsig
3rd April 2009, 06:20 AM
Just the Zionist Muslims.
They are much more fun.
I prefer the Christian, Zionist, Nazi Muslim movement.
TriskettheKid
3rd April 2009, 06:41 AM
I don't think you will find many muslims sympathetic to the zionist cause.
Not funny.
I was dead serious.
Zionist Muslims are a fun bunch.
But not nearly as fun as the Cross-dressing Black Midget Jewish Gay Pride branch of the National Alliance.
THOSE guys know how to party.
cwalner
3rd April 2009, 07:44 AM
I was dead serious.
Zionist Muslims are a fun bunch.
But not nearly as fun as the Cross-dressing Black Midget Jewish Gay Pride branch of the National Alliance.
THOSE guys know how to party.
If only I were black, I would have a place to fit in. Curse my low mellanin count!!!
zaphod2016
3rd April 2009, 07:44 AM
Not only do I NOT apologize for my ancestors nailing Jesus to the cross, but I personally CELEBRATE the event every Good Friday!!!
Are you Roman? Because it was the Romans who sentenced Jesus to death, not the Jews. His death was an act of capital punishment (or fiction).
ETA: Eddie Dane beat me to the punch
TriskettheKid
3rd April 2009, 07:53 AM
Are you Roman? Because it was the Romans who sentenced Jesus to death, not the Jews. His death was an act of capital punishment (or fiction).
I've never understood the animosity towards the supposed "killers" of Jesus.
Shouldn't they be being thanked?
Shouldn't the people that killed Jesus be loved the world round?
I mean, as I said before, without the death of Jesus, there is no possible way of being "saved", and therefore no way into Heaven. After all, Jesus dying for the sins of man was the reason for his life, was it not? In order to save mankind, Jesus had to die.
So I'd appreciate a little less of animosity and vitriol, and a little more of the "Thank You."
cwalner
3rd April 2009, 08:11 AM
In 2003, journalist Peter Hounam wrote Operation Cyanide: How the Bombing of the USS Liberty Nearly Caused World War III, which proposes a completely different theory regarding the incident. In an attempt to explain why there was no support by U.S. forces as backup, Hounam claims that Israel and U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson had secretly agreed on day four of the Six Day War that Liberty would be sunk with complete loss of life. The attack would be blamed on Egypt, allowing the U.S. in turn to attack Egypt, thus helping out Israel. However, according to Hounam's theory, because the Liberty did not sink after two hours, the plan was quickly reversed, Israel apologized for the case of mistaken identity, and a cover-up put into place.
Same conclusion I came to.
I recommend these books for you to read. Unless you have already read them.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_b_0_12?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=uss+liberty+dead+in+the+water&x=0&y=0&sprefix=USS+Liberty+
Bolding Mine
See, here is the problem with conspiracy theories. In order for your claims to even seem plausible, there has to be some high ranking US official in on the plan. In this case none other then the POTUS and commander in chief of the US armed forces at the time, Lyndon B. Johnson.
The problem is that this whole issue was brought up because you want to blame the Jews for some nefarious action against the US. However if I were to accept your argument, then LBJ was the mastermind behind this tragedy and the IDF were simply his pawns trying to appease thier powerful American ally. Therefore the one who would deserve condemnation is LBJ, not the IDF, not Isreal, and most defenitely not 'The Jews'.
From where I sit, the official explanation seems much more plausible. There is a concept so endemic to modern military culture that the acronym used to describe it has become common parlance in American English slang. That term is SNAFU and predates the Liberty Incident by at least 20 years (I don't know if was in place before WWII, but I have heard references to at least that far back). This incident is such a classic example of a military SNAFU that attempts to assign nefarious motives to it on anybody's part is just pointless and counterproductive.
zaphod2016
3rd April 2009, 08:14 AM
If anyone should apologise, it's Rick Astley.
Seconded.
tsig
3rd April 2009, 10:33 AM
Bolding Mine
See, here is the problem with conspiracy theories. In order for your claims to even seem plausible, there has to be some high ranking US official in on the plan. In this case none other then the POTUS and commander in chief of the US armed forces at the time, Lyndon B. Johnson.
The problem is that this whole issue was brought up because you want to blame the Jews for some nefarious action against the US. However if I were to accept your argument, then LBJ was the mastermind behind this tragedy and the IDF were simply his pawns trying to appease thier powerful American ally. Therefore the one who would deserve condemnation is LBJ, not the IDF, not Isreal, and most defenitely not 'The Jews'.
From where I sit, the official explanation seems much more plausible. There is a concept so endemic to modern military culture that the acronym used to describe it has become common parlance in American English slang. That term is SNAFU and predates the Liberty Incident by at least 20 years (I don't know if was in place before WWII, but I have heard references to at least that far back). This incident is such a classic example of a military SNAFU that attempts to assign nefarious motives to it on anybody's part is just pointless and counterproductive.
Incompetence beats out evil every time.
malcolmxwarrior
3rd April 2009, 02:07 PM
Bolding Mine
See, here is the problem with conspiracy theories. In order for your claims to even seem plausible, there has to be some high ranking US official in on the plan. In this case none other then the POTUS and commander in chief of the US armed forces at the time, Lyndon B. Johnson.
The problem is that this whole issue was brought up because you want to blame the Jews for some nefarious action against the US. However if I were to accept your argument, then LBJ was the mastermind behind this tragedy and the IDF were simply his pawns trying to appease thier powerful American ally. Therefore the one who would deserve condemnation is LBJ, not the IDF, not Isreal, and most defenitely not 'The Jews'.
From where I sit, the official explanation seems much more plausible. There is a concept so endemic to modern military culture that the acronym used to describe it has become common parlance in American English slang. That term is SNAFU and predates the Liberty Incident by at least 20 years (I don't know if was in place before WWII, but I have heard references to at least that far back). This incident is such a classic example of a military SNAFU that attempts to assign nefarious motives to it on anybody's part is just pointless and counterproductive.
No, Incorrect.
Tel aviv and washington together. Hand in hand.
It's not that much of a stretch given the events that took place that day. Not too mention they have lied over and over again. John Pollard and the lavon affair and the gaza offensive that happened a few months ago. They lie constantly.
They like to work hand in hand with washington BTW. Like that guardian article last year that stated Olmert had asked bush if he could attack Iran but bush said wait. It's not that Bush wanted was a hero or saved us from war. Oh Ney ney. He just was like "come on, gimmie a break." "can't you wait until obama is prez?" "we already launched a covert war against Iran in August" "relax" "Lets see if these plans work first"
That's the gist of it right there.
malcolmxwarrior
3rd April 2009, 02:12 PM
That's rich. I've done more to uphold your right to spew this unsubstantiated filth than you can possibly fathom, child.
So even though I celebrate your right to :words: :words: :words: your Protocols of Zion-influenced nonsense, as far as I'm concerned you can ***SELF-EDITED FOR CIVILITY***
And besides, you didn't prove that Israel had positively ID'd the ship as the USS Liberty, or even a US ship of any kind and decided to fire anyway.
And you won't, because that isn't what happened no matter how much your twisted worldview wants it that way.
How? By killing a bunch of brown people for the jews?
If you are referring to military, Then I don't appreciate you guys forcing democracy with a barrel of a gun. Killing a million people in Iraq that had nothing to do with 9/11 and dropping depleted uranium on innocent people. How is that defending freedom? that is post WW2 propaganda and I am sorry for you suckers that bought into all the Full metal jacket gun-ho BS.
malcolmxwarrior
3rd April 2009, 02:21 PM
I see that we've moved on to the anti-Semites favourite friendly fire incident and alleged nonsensical, impossible, unworkable and unnecessary conspiracy.
I do admit that I'm really tickled by the concept of one of the world's most recognised spy ships. LOL
And I suspect you're not all that familiar with Malcolm X's later writings. You know, after he stopped being a tool for a nutty hate group?
You know I don't remember cynthia mckinney or Ray Mcgovern being anti-semties? dL_B4vSaYGw
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/27489
Are you gonna call Ray Mcgovern and Cynthia Mckinney Anti-semites?
How can there be so many defenders of such racist hateful people? It boggles my mind.
Jews are some of the most racist people on the planet. They only marry other jews and condemn marrying someone that is not jewish.
And why is it that every-time a gentile marries a jew, the GENTILE has to convert?
Can one of you jews answer that for me please? Cynthia mckinney
cwalner
3rd April 2009, 02:26 PM
How? By killing a bunch of brown people for the jews?
If you are referring to military, Then I don't appreciate you guys forcing democracy with a barrel of a gun. Killing a million people in Iraq that had nothing to do with 9/11 and dropping depleted uranium on innocent people. How is that defending freedom? that is post WW2 propaganda and I am sorry for you suckers that bought into all the Full metal jacket gun-ho BS.
MXW,
I also have strong disagreements with many of policies my government (US) especially with regards to its use of the military, but I would never, ever considering laying that kind of blame upon the servicemembers like Joey.
When properly used the US military does protect our freedoms as Joey has stated. When improperly used there are serious problems, but those need to be addressed with the politicians who make those policies, not the brave and loyal servicemembers who implement them.
cwalner
3rd April 2009, 02:28 PM
You know I don't remember cynthia mckinney or Ray Mcgovern being anti-semties? dL_B4vSaYGw
You jewish appeaser.
How can there be so many defenders of such racist hateful people? It boggles my mind.
Jews are some of the most racist people on the planet. They only marry other jews and condemn marrying someone that is not jewish.
And why is it that every-time a gentile marries a jew, the GENTILE has to convert?
Can one of you jews answer that for me please? Cynthia mckinney
well, that's news to my brother and his Catholic wife.
ETA: and to my nieces. several years ago my eldest niece (about 6 at the time) was talking about how one set of her grandparents celebrated Christmas and the other celebrated Channukah. When asked what she celebrated, she answered with the unabashed averice of youth 'Both!!!'
malcolmxwarrior
3rd April 2009, 02:31 PM
MXW,
I also have strong disagreements with many of policies my government (US) especially with regards to its use of the military, but I would never, ever considering laying that kind of blame upon the servicemembers like Joey.
When properly used the US military does protect our freedoms as Joey has stated. When improperly used there are serious problems, but those need to be addressed with the politicians who make those policies, not the brave and loyal servicemembers who implement them.
So if you believe the original story of 9/11 like I assume you do, the presence of American military troops like joey, was the reason why Osama was able to recruit so many hijackers on 9/11! It's called blowback. You reap what you sow. And by looking at what the US military has done SINCE 9/11. They are gonna reap some disasters!
cwalner
3rd April 2009, 02:52 PM
So if you believe the original story of 9/11 like I assume you do, the presence of American military troops like joey, was the reason why Osama was able to recruit so many hijackers on 9/11! It's called blowback. You reap what you sow. And by looking at what the US military has done SINCE 9/11. They are gonna reap some disasters!
You do actually have a valid point, much to my surprise. Yes, US foreign policy regarding the middle east did play a part in fomenting the hatred towards us that fueled the fervor of the 9/11 attackers. To claim otherwise is folly.
It is bigger folly however to claim that it was the only reason and that US military presence in Muslim countries with the approval of those countries own governments justifies the murder of 6,000 people, mostly civilians.
Rogue1stclass
3rd April 2009, 04:06 PM
How? By killing a bunch of brown people for the jews?
Aren't Jews themselves "brown people"?
I mean, if it applies to Arabs then it would surely apply to Jews as well. In fact, the term is so uselessly generic it seems to apply to anyone with the ability to tan and is frequently used as such.
Tell me this, who could the United States go to war with that wouldn't be considered "killing brown people"?
malcolmxwarrior
3rd April 2009, 10:47 PM
You do actually have a valid point, much to my surprise. Yes, US foreign policy regarding the middle east did play a part in fomenting the hatred towards us that fueled the fervor of the 9/11 attackers. To claim otherwise is folly.
It is bigger folly however to claim that it was the only reason and that US military presence in Muslim countries with the approval of those countries own governments justifies the murder of 6,000 people, mostly civilians.
Well, the US installs puppet dictatorships in egypt and bribe the monarchy in jordan. Not too mention saudi arabia who sold out years ago. The house of saud have no souls.
"The countries which do not agree to become the U.S. slaves are China, Iran, Libya, Cuba, Syria [Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iraq, Sudan, Indonesia, Malaysia] and Russia"
That's straight out of the spooky terrorists mouth. ALthough he is wrong about libya, pakistan and indonesia.
here's the link http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html
malcolmxwarrior
3rd April 2009, 11:04 PM
Aren't Jews themselves "brown people"?
I mean, if it applies to Arabs then it would surely apply to Jews as well. In fact, the term is so uselessly generic it seems to apply to anyone with the ability to tan and is frequently used as such.
Tell me this, who could the United States go to war with that wouldn't be considered "killing brown people"?
I was channeling my inner bill hicks. Np6_b-72H3E
Iraq, Afghanistan, pakistan. Brown people.
Anyway you asked if jews are brown people. Well, jews are complicated. The sephardic jews have lived with the arabs in palestine for YEARS. I believe they are blood relatives. However the ashkenazi jews that come from khazaria and are eastern european jews, were in farrakhans words "johnny-come-latelys" Who converted for mere political purposes.
Now this reminds me of what my friend had said. He said to me, if the devil came to earth, how do you think he would come? Would he come all red face and snarling teeth with big horns? No! OF course not. He would come looking like you, dressed like you, talking in your language befriending you Etc. Then he said, take a look at these zionist jews in America. Don't they look like a bunch of white dudes? Don't they look like me?
Now take a look at politics today. What do you see? Is the real evil the scary bearded ayatollahs in Iran? Who have never done anything sinister in decades?
Or is the real evil hidden? In disguise? Posing as your friend, saying your interests are one in the same?
Just food for thought.
Skeptic
3rd April 2009, 11:48 PM
They STILL haven't apologized for killing Jesus
"The Jews" killed Jesus is SO friggin' general. WHICH Jews?
I am happy to report the responsible parties have been apprehended: the Jews who killed Jesus are the writer of these lines, and his uncle, Solomon (Brooklyn, NY, USA).
Can the rest of the Jews be released on bail?
1337m4n
4th April 2009, 12:50 AM
I hope everyone realizes that this thread STARTED as an April Fool's joke.
Rogue1stclass
4th April 2009, 01:07 AM
I was channeling my inner bill hicks. Np6_b-72H3E
Iraq, Afghanistan, pakistan. Brown people.
Anyway you asked if jews are brown people. Well, jews are complicated. The sephardic jews have lived with the arabs in palestine for YEARS. I believe they are blood relatives. However the ashkenazi jews that come from khazaria and are eastern european jews, were in farrakhans words "johnny-come-latelys" Who converted for mere political purposes.
Now this reminds me of what my friend had said. He said to me, if the devil came to earth, how do you think he would come? Would he come all red face and snarling teeth with big horns? No! OF course not. He would come looking like you, dressed like you, talking in your language befriending you Etc. Then he said, take a look at these zionist jews in America. Don't they look like a bunch of white dudes? Don't they look like me?
Now take a look at politics today. What do you see? Is the real evil the scary bearded ayatollahs in Iran? Who have never done anything sinister in decades?
Or is the real evil hidden? In disguise? Posing as your friend, saying your interests are one in the same?
Just food for thought.
Take an Arab, get him out of the desert sun and third world working conditions and you know what you get?
Casey freaking Kasem.
cwalner
4th April 2009, 04:26 AM
Take an Arab, get him out of the desert sun and third world working conditions and you know what you get?
Casey freaking Kasem.
Zoinks Scooby!! You have a point.
cwalner
4th April 2009, 04:33 AM
Well, the US installs puppet dictatorships in egypt and bribe the monarchy in jordan. Not too mention saudi arabia who sold out years ago. The house of saud have no souls.
And this justifies the murder of 6,000 people in the US how?
"The countries which do not agree to become the U.S. slaves are China, Iran, Libya, Cuba, Syria [Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iraq, Sudan, Indonesia, Malaysia] and Russia"
I beleive I stated that thier greivence was with US military presence with the permission of the local government. Please remind me which of the above countries had a US military base prior to 9/11 and makes your comment somehow relevant?
cwalner
4th April 2009, 04:37 AM
I hope everyone realizes that this thread STARTED as an April Fool's joke.
I think everybody but MXW does. But just because you started this thread as an excuse to rickroll us (you miserable misanthropic bastard, you) does mean that MXW will be given a free pass to speew his vitriolic nonsense unchallenged.
Eddie Dane
4th April 2009, 06:09 AM
You know I don't remember cynthia mckinney or Ray Mcgovern being anti-semties? dL_B4vSaYGw
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/27489
Are you gonna call Ray Mcgovern and Cynthia Mckinney Anti-semites?
Sure. If you really want me to.
I have already apologized for killing Jesus, why not go the whole hog?
Ray Mcgovern and Cynthia Mckinney are anti-semites.
Happy now?
Rogue1stclass
4th April 2009, 06:19 AM
I hope everyone realizes that this thread STARTED as an April Fool's joke.
As a member of the JREF, I apologize for hijacking the thread.
As an American, I apologize for the Trail of Tears. As a Cherokee, I accept my apology. So that's one issue resolved.
BTW, does being a quarter Cherokee make me "brown"?
cwalner
4th April 2009, 06:54 AM
Sure. If you really want me to.
I have already apologized for killing Jesus, why not go the whole hog?
Ray Mcgovern and Cynthia Mckinney are anti-semites.
Happy now?
I will second that. I have neither heard of either before, so the only thing I have to go on is what Ms. McKinney says in the video and what Mr. McGovern writes in the linked article.
Based on that limited exposure, both appear to be antisemitic.
According to Ms. McKinney, her boat was the victim of an unprovoked ramming by an Israeli patrol boat. The fact that they were attempting to run a blockade imposed by the Israeli navy does not constitute provocation in her mind, I guess.
Yes, I understand that she disputes the validity and morality of that blockade, but she was willfully and intentionally attempting to violate that blockade so her protests of the attack being unprovoked are ludicrous.
Furthermore, when the reporter attempted to challenge her story with contrasting it to the official report filed by the IDF, rather than dispute the facts of the report, she raises the non-sequitor of the Liberty stating it was another boat attacked by Israel.
So yeah, sounds like an antisemite.
cwalner
4th April 2009, 06:57 AM
As a member of the JREF, I apologize for hijacking the thread.
As an American, I apologize for the Trail of Tears. As a Cherokee, I accept my apology. So that's one issue resolved.
BTW, does being a quarter Cherokee make me "brown"?
Silly boy. Injun's are red not brown. Get your racist terminoligy correct!!
tsig
4th April 2009, 09:42 AM
As a member of the JREF, I apologize for hijacking the thread.
As an American, I apologize for the Trail of Tears. As a Cherokee, I accept my apology. So that's one issue resolved.
BTW, does being a quarter Cherokee make me "brown"?
Upper right quadrant yes
Upper left quadrant no
Reverse for lower half.
abenja1
4th April 2009, 02:11 PM
I can see that MxW knows just as much about world politics as he does about the economy: nothing. Keep reading the MSM like you always do MxW. Your hypocrisy and misinformation knows no bounds
malcolmxwarrior
4th April 2009, 02:14 PM
I can see that MxW knows just as much about world politics as he does about the economy: nothing. Keep reading the MSM like you always do MxW. Your hypocrisy and misinformation knows no bounds
Ok troll.
You have already lied numerous times.
I taught you what a depression is.
malcolmxwarrior
4th April 2009, 02:18 PM
I will second that. I have neither heard of either before, so the only thing I have to go on is what Ms. McKinney says in the video and what Mr. McGovern writes in the linked article.
Based on that limited exposure, both appear to be antisemitic.
According to Ms. McKinney, her boat was the victim of an unprovoked ramming by an Israeli patrol boat. The fact that they were attempting to run a blockade imposed by the Israeli navy does not constitute provocation in her mind, I guess.
Yes, I understand that she disputes the validity and morality of that blockade, but she was willfully and intentionally attempting to violate that blockade so her protests of the attack being unprovoked are ludicrous.
Furthermore, when the reporter attempted to challenge her story with contrasting it to the official report filed by the IDF, rather than dispute the facts of the report, she raises the non-sequitor of the Liberty stating it was another boat attacked by Israel.
So yeah, sounds like an antisemite.
Yeah ok :rolleyes:
The jews in Israel lie. Plain and simple.
Also, a blockade is a provocation and an act of war.
It's good to see how wrong you guys are on the issues.
parky76
4th April 2009, 02:20 PM
Yeah ok :rolleyes:
The jews in Israel lie. Plain and simple.
Also, a blockade is a provocation and an act of war.
It's good to see how wrong you guys are on the issues.
Malcom X was a liar, a cheat, a thief, and a homosexual. How can you name yourself after him?
malcolmxwarrior
4th April 2009, 02:23 PM
And this justifies the murder of 6,000 people in the US how?
I beleive I stated that thier greivence was with US military presence with the permission of the local government. Please remind me which of the above countries had a US military base prior to 9/11 and makes your comment somehow relevant?
It doesn't in my opinion.
I condemn the atrocities in New york, just like I condemn the atrocities on the USS liberty, The lavon affair, the USS cole, the Iraq war, the "war" in serbia, Afghanistan, the atrocities in Lebanon and gaza and the west bank. supporting dictators in Iraq, killing thousands of women and children in the process.
I condemn all of that. It's positively sinful.
malcolmxwarrior
4th April 2009, 02:28 PM
Malcom X was a liar, a cheat, a thief, and a homosexual. How can you name yourself after him?
Hey there you are!
Were you suspended or something?
I'll play your little lawyer games for a change.
Can you prove that MX was a liar, a cheat, a thief and a homosexual?
Tell me, I get the impression that you are either really old (60-70) or really young (18)? Am I right?
The answer to your question is because he had courage and stood up for what he believed in and I admire that. He spoke the truth to the best of his abilities and was killed for it. He was a victim of the nation, but who hasn't fallen victim to something before. He made the white man very nervous and they tried to label him a commie. The guys a hero to millions of people.
My other hero is muhammad ali. Maybe I should have used THAT name?
dudalb
4th April 2009, 02:38 PM
OK , I am calling sockpuppet on Malcolm. He just sounds too much like Sunni Man.
malcolmxwarrior
4th April 2009, 02:40 PM
OK , I am calling sockpuppet on Malcolm. He just sounds too much like Sunni Man.
No. Trust me.
parky76
4th April 2009, 04:33 PM
Hey there you are!
Were you suspended or something?
No..but YOU were. :D
Sunni Man.
Eddie Dane
5th April 2009, 12:46 PM
No..but YOU were. :D
Sunni Man.
I don't think so Parky.
Sunni Man trolled with viewpoints from within the Wahhabi philosophy. These viewpoints were internally consistent and had a logic in Sunni Man's teeny weeny universe.
MXW is of the Rage Against The Machine school of political thought.
An incoherent hodgepodge of kinda-sorta ideas ran though a mixer and selectively filtered through a Youtube video thrown together by a stoned truther.
Then again, maybe Sunni Man has undergone a lobotomy.
I'll start up Windows Movie Maker to make a Youtube video about that theory, giving it that much needed credibility. *takes bong hit*
Eddie Dane
5th April 2009, 12:47 PM
When and why was Sunni Man banned?
I missed that.
malcolmxwarrior
5th April 2009, 02:30 PM
I don't think so Parky.
Sunni Man trolled with viewpoints from within the Wahhabi philosophy. These viewpoints were internally consistent and had a logic in Sunni Man's teeny weeny universe.
MXW is of the Rage Against The Machine school of political thought.
An incoherent hodgepodge of kinda-sorta ideas ran though a mixer and selectively filtered through a Youtube video thrown together by a stoned truther.
Then again, maybe Sunni Man has undergone a lobotomy.
I'll start up Windows Movie Maker to make a Youtube video about that theory, giving it that much needed credibility. *takes bong hit*
Is that right?
I'm in the same boat with Zach de la rocha and Tom Morello? Thanks bro!
Wait, calling me a "truther"? Is that supposed to discredit me?
THey are higher on the totem pole than you so you shouldn't throw those stones bro.
I will embrace the Word "Truther". IF you are referring to 9/11 truth where they want a further investigation into 9/11. I fully whole-heartedly support that.
The response is usually, "the US government can't waste their time on it " blah blah blah.
But they're not wastin' time passing chimp legislation and pardoning boxers that have been dead for 50 years?
Gimmie a break. INvestigate 9/11. Expose the Jewish cabal behind the wars in IRaq and Afghanistan. Expose the "neocon' lies.
cwalner
5th April 2009, 03:10 PM
Is that right?
I'm in the same boat with Zach de la rocha and Tom Morello? Thanks bro!
Wait, calling me a "truther"? Is that supposed to discredit me?
THey are higher on the totem pole than you so you shouldn't throw those stones bro.
I will embrace the Word "Truther". IF you are referring to 9/11 truth where they want a further investigation into 9/11. I fully whole-heartedly support that.
The response is usually, "the US government can't waste their time on it " blah blah blah.
But they're not wastin' time passing chimp legislation and pardoning boxers that have been dead for 50 years?
Gimmie a break. INvestigate 9/11. Expose the Jewish cabal behind the wars in IRaq and Afghanistan. Expose the "neocon' lies.
No, the response is usually typically 'The US government shouldn't waste any more time on it'. the US government already spent 6 years investigating and writing a report (http://www.gpoaccess.gov/911/Index.html)on the findings of that investigation.
However, the 'Truthers' out there just claim that its a cover up and they can't trust the 911 comission report because it came from the government. I see no reason to spend any more of anybody's tax money to try to convince you and other 'Truthers' of the validity of that report because anything that comes from the government is already tainted in your minds and would be a completely wasted effort.
MXW, you, or any other 'Truther', of course are welcome to post a link to any source document that you wish that provides any evidence this alleged Jewish Cabal exists and showing that it had anything to do with 911, the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan, or anything else that you have accused or wish to accuse it of.
Please note that by source document, I mean a document that details or is the product of an actual investigetion that directly shows or implies the accusations that you make. I do not mean a link to another site speculating about causes because of lack of evidence or disbeleif of the evidence of the 'official story'.
When you are any 'Truther' can do that some of us here will start taking your claims seriously.
Rogue1stclass
5th April 2009, 05:54 PM
There has never been a Jewish Cabal (well, except Kabbalah).
The whole stupidity started in medival Europe when Jewish folks were the only ones not forbiden by Christianity to charge interest on lending money. So Jews got rich lending money to Christians, and Christians hated them for it. This went on for hundreds of years and was the reason for many, many atrocities against Jews from the Inquisition to the Holocaust and has remained a part of Western culture long after the Jewish monopoly on banking ended.
But the fact of the matter is that there was never any secret organization of Jews running things behind the scenes. There were individual and small groups of Jews taking advantage of really the only opportunity they had in medival Europe. However, people being how they are, couldn't get past the fact that most bankers tended to be Jews and so assumed they all knew each other, much like racist white folks seem to think most black folks know each other. But the fact of the matter is that there is no overarcing hierarchy in Judaism, and Jews in Spain aren't necessarily going to have any connection at all to Jews in Italy.
cwalner
5th April 2009, 07:08 PM
Rogue,
This is the Conspiracy Theory Subforum, specifically a thread started on April 1st as a RickRoll.
Your sense, logic and knowledge of history has no place here and is not appreciated.
Now, please repost but only use the language of an antisemitic CTer or Zionist Apologist and all will be forgiven.
Rogue1stclass
5th April 2009, 09:16 PM
How about this, then...
Hundreds of years ago, under orders of the Jew Pope, the sons of Shem infiltrated Europe and tempted the naive Christians with free money. However, there was a horrible catch. Not only would the Jews expect repayment, the would also demand slightly more than they lent out! The good Christians could not resist this offer, and slowly the tentacles of the Temple of Solomon constricted around the benevolent powers until only Jews held any real power, working their shadowy magic and rituals behind the scenes, worshiping their obscene god, who was also the God of the Christians and Muslims, but not the way the THEY worshiped Him.
Now, in the modern age, despite the easing of the Christian ban on usury and countless heroic attempts to rid the world of the circumcised plague, the Jewish power is still absolute and has stretched to overtake the entire Western world and, one presumes, their allies in the East such as Japan.
That's the best I can come up with. I did flunk bigotry in high school, as I've mentioned.
Eddie Dane
6th April 2009, 12:36 AM
For the record:
I actually like Rage Against The Machine.
But they're about as good at political philosophy as Samuel Huntington is at rap.
JoeyDonuts
6th April 2009, 12:39 AM
It's too bad the Symbionese Liberation Army isn't around anymore.
He'd have fit right in.
cwalner
6th April 2009, 04:23 AM
How about this, then...
<snip>
That's the best I can come up with. I did flunk bigotry in high school, as I've mentioned.
Thank you, Much better.
Shrike
6th April 2009, 06:49 AM
Anyway, I speak for my whole family when I apologise for: Jeebus, The battle at Teutoburg Forest, Scattering the Jewish tribes, The pacification of Gaul, WWI, the Holocaust, the Nakba, Italo pop (mid eighties), Colonisation of Indonesia, Slavery, Skunk, Dutch music in general, Showgirls-the movie, Geert Wilders, colonisation of Manhattan, the Dutch service industry in general, Mitsubishi Colt, Siege of Leningrad, attacks on Serb villages, Big Brother, wooden shoes and Srebrenica. Did I miss something?
How about one of our kings starting that whole Northern Ireland crap?
Eddie Dane
6th April 2009, 07:21 AM
How about one of our kings starting that whole Northern Ireland crap?
The Orange Marches! Of course!
Mea Culpa and sorry.
Can I take credit for Doutzen Kroes (http://images.google.nl/images?hl=nl&um=1&ei=ww_aSYuoN9XT-QbT84zLBQ&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Doutzen+Kroes&spell=1) now?
Eddie Dane
6th April 2009, 07:28 AM
It's too bad the Symbionese Liberation Army isn't around anymore.
He'd have fit right in.
Ah, justified violence in the name of the great unifying theory of being against stuff....and stuff.
There was member of the Red Army Fraction that actually said something along the lines of: We didn't understand everything Marx wrote, and I didn't read it all. But we knew that is was right.
Reminds me of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDJeTnLKLEI&feature=PlayList&p=77A1F3BF6ACB0EFB&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=29).
Rogue1stclass
6th April 2009, 10:20 AM
Oh. Wait.
As a person of Christian heritage, I apologize for borrowing money from the Jews throughout European history. And, you know, the persecutions because of it.
And, as a human being, there's that whole Dodo thing.
cwalner
6th April 2009, 11:34 AM
Oh. Wait.
As a person of Christian heritage, I apologize for borrowing money from the Jews throughout European history. And, you know, the persecutions because of it.
And, as a human being, there's that whole Dodo thing.
Nah, you're being too hard on yourself.
As you pointed out, one of the few options available to Jews was that of moneylending. Kinda implies there was persecution before there was moneylending.
As for the Dodo, your apology is accepted, but in order for the human race to be redeemed for the sin of the Dodo, you will have to submit to being clubbed to death like a baby seal so that the rest of humanity will have the chance for redemption, but only if they accept you and the sacrifice you made for them and agree to club to death anybody who is unwilling to accept your sacrifice.
(sorry bit of a cross-post, just got done reading a KK thread)
Shrike
6th April 2009, 11:55 AM
The Orange Marches! Of course!
Mea Culpa and sorry.
Can I take credit for Doutzen Kroes (http://images.google.nl/images?hl=nl&um=1&ei=ww_aSYuoN9XT-QbT84zLBQ&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Doutzen+Kroes&spell=1) now?
What?
Are you her daddy?
Rogue1stclass
6th April 2009, 01:37 PM
Nah, you're being too hard on yourself.
As you pointed out, one of the few options available to Jews was that of moneylending. Kinda implies there was persecution before there was moneylending.
Yeah, but I don't apologize for that persecution. Heathens had it coming.
Eddie Dane
6th April 2009, 01:56 PM
What?
Are you her daddy?
No. But I figured that if I get blamed for killing Jesus, I might as well take credit for stuff I have a vague connection with.
In the case if Doutzen: I'm Dutch, she's Dutch.
While I'm at it I'll take credit for Remy Bonjasky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSvDWj6LEhY&feature=related) too.
He's another successful Dutch export.
With different qualities.
cwalner
6th April 2009, 01:56 PM
Yeah, but I don't apologize for that persecution. Heathens had it coming.
Sheesh. We got a little impatient wating for Moses and built one calf from the gold we had. It wasn't even all that big. One small, stinking, golden calf and we get branded as Heathens for going on 3000 years now.
Tell you what, you agree to cut us a break on the Heathen thing and I can hook you up with this ancient golden statue ... at wholesale.
Rogue1stclass
6th April 2009, 10:53 PM
Sheesh. We got a little impatient wating for Moses and built one calf from the gold we had. It wasn't even all that big. One small, stinking, golden calf and we get branded as Heathens for going on 3000 years now.
Tell you what, you agree to cut us a break on the Heathen thing and I can hook you up with this ancient golden statue ... at wholesale.
Well, there's your problem. When you decide to get all blasphemous and rebelious, you worship a calf god. I gotta tell ya, in the hierarchy of badass gods, a calf god ranks pretty low.
Oh, and I apologize on behalf of my pet Boa Constrictor, Kerouac, for getting us all kicked out of the Garden of Eden. Also, Beatnics.
cwalner
7th April 2009, 07:11 AM
Well, there's your problem. When you decide to get all blasphemous and rebelious, you worship a calf god. I gotta tell ya, in the hierarchy of badass gods, a calf god ranks pretty low.
Oh, and I apologize on behalf of my pet Boa Constrictor, Kerouac, for getting us all kicked out of the Garden of Eden. Also, Beatnics.
I am overwhelmed by the power of Kerouac. I submit.
malcolmxwarrior
9th April 2009, 12:43 PM
For the record:
I actually like Rage Against The Machine.
But they're about as good at political philosophy as Samuel Huntington is at rap.
Again with the stones bro.
Eddie Dane
9th April 2009, 03:05 PM
Again with the stones bro.
No, the Stones are my dad's thing.:D
Saw them live in '96.
tsig
9th April 2009, 03:59 PM
Well, there's your problem. When you decide to get all blasphemous and rebelious, you worship a calf god. I gotta tell ya, in the hierarchy of badass gods, a calf god ranks pretty low.
Oh, and I apologize on behalf of my pet Boa Constrictor, Kerouac, for getting us all kicked out of the Garden of Eden. Also, Beatnics.
Check out these cows:
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/cowswithguns
Rogue1stclass
15th April 2009, 10:43 PM
Yes, but that's the exception that proves the rule.
Also, you know another one of those scary, Brown A-Rabs? Paul Anka.
So, again, if Paul Anka is a Brown person, who isn't one?
Edit: Incidentally, I love Cows with Guns. It's one of my favorate novelty songs.
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