PETA to Virtually Protest Virtual Seal Clubbing

[Cobalt]

http://kotaku.com/5201889/peta-protests-baby-seal-clubbing-in-world-of-warcraft

Really? REALLY? Wow.

Are they desperate for attention? I mean, more so than usual I guess?

[applecorped]

I virtually eat meat. It's difficult but it can be done.

[Vermonter]

Eh, it can't be any worse than when an in-game funeral was crashed...

[Foolmewunz]

Gotta love it. Gamers are sounding all righteous and arguing both sides of this, when you know what each of them is secretly thinking:

(Oh, I wish, I wish, I wish... let Pamela Anderson be there and see how awesome I am at level 80.)

[applecorped]

Eh, it can't be any worse than when an in-game funeral was crashed...


Welcome!!!! I used to live in Vermont (Sutton). To damn cold. ;)

[Fnord]

I don't mean to derail, but every time I hear the word "PETA" or see it in print, my first though is:

People
Eating
Tasty
Animals

[applecorped]

How about:

Prudish
Europeans
Translate
Arabic

[six7s]

Prepubescent
Emos
Threatening
Angst

[shadron]

I don't mean to derail, but every time I hear the word "PETA" or see it in print, my first though is:

People
Eating
Tasty
Animals

http://mtd.com/tasty/ - this used to be www.peta.org, until PETA got ICANN to give it to them.

[Region Rat]

I'm going to virtually club some seals just to spite them. Some really young ones with big sad eyes.

[Cobalt]

I'm going to virtually club some seals just to spite them. Some really young ones with big sad eyes.

You're my kinda person.

[Foolmewunz]

I'm going to virtually club some seals just to spite them. Some really young ones with big sad eyes.

I think the idea is that if you go to the location they're talking about and lurk for a while before the appointed time, you can club some virtual PETAites. How much more pleasant would that be than clubbing virtual baby seals?

Could do a lot for their standing in the community if they allow people to take out their aggressions/hostilities that way.

[MattusMaximus]

I'm going to virtually make fun of the PETA loons.

Here goes: :rolleyes:

[GreyICE]

I can't help thinking this is an April Fool's day prank. I don't know why, but the fact that it makes even less sense than usual when looking at PETA (I mean... The Fjord? What. DHETA is in the Tundra, you nutwits) and the date is just starting to really get to me.

[Vermonter]

Welcome!!!! I used to live in Vermont (Sutton). To damn cold. ;)

Oh, cool! I was born in Bennington, and live in Burlington now. It's fun, but yeah it's cold. I like hearing from fellow Vermonters. :-)

[Vermonter]

I can't help thinking this is an April Fool's day prank. I don't know why, but the fact that it makes even less sense than usual when looking at PETA (I mean... The Fjord? What. DHETA is in the Tundra, you nutwits) and the date is just starting to really get to me.

Oh, probably. Then again, I wouldn't put it past PETA to do this sort of thing. If it's tongue in cheek, it's well played.

[Euromutt]

I think the idea is that if you go to the location they're talking about and lurk for a while before the appointed time, you can club some virtual PETAites. How much more pleasant would that be than clubbing virtual baby seals?

Could do a lot for their standing in the community if they allow people to take out their aggressions/hostilities that way.Alas, the article notes (with some regret) that the realm in which the protest will take place is not a PvP server, probably because the PETA types foresaw your idea.

[ImaginalDisc]

Alas, the article notes (with some regret) that the realm in which the protest will take place is not a PvP server, probably because the PETA types foresaw your idea.

Right. You can, however, flag yourself PVP and stand in the same space as the seals. Such baiting is a common tactic.

[lionking]

I now realise how glad I am to have resisted World of Warcraft.

[Cainkane1]

As bad as I hate PETA in this case I have to agree. Clubbing seal pups to death is a disgusting sight.

[lionking]

As bad as I hate PETA in this case I have to agree. Clubbing seal pups to death is a disgusting sight.

Sure, but at least it gives me the opportunity to ask my cousin who works in the tobacco industry when they are going to improve their popularity by diversifying into seal clubbing.





Sorry

[Drudgewire]

Watch out ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=4048626&sportCat=ncb)!


The Carolina lead mushroomed to 10 after 4:04. To 15 after 7:03. To 20 after 9:38. It was a seal clubbing. The roaring crowd quickly turned into a Lions crowd, muted by watching another blowout of the home team in this building.

[Mashuna]

If you play Kingdom of Loathing, it's a character class (http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Seal_Clubber).

Of course you have to work your way up to it, through being a Lemming Trampler, Puffin Intimidator, Reindeer Threatener and so on.

[ImaginalDisc]

As bad as I hate PETA in this case I have to agree. Clubbing seal pups to death is a disgusting sight.

So's a full baby diaper. "Eiw" does not constitute moral suasion.

[fuelair]

I'm going to virtually club some seals just to spite them. Some really young ones with big sad eyes.
Be sure to leave the meat behind, poisoned and use the pelt by cutting out the very best strip to make a pinky ring from and paint PETA BITES (or better)in permanent paint to make the rest of the skin useless. Waste much, Want More!:D






I hate PETAwists!!!

[dudalb]

I'm going to virtually club some seals just to spite them. Some really young ones with big sad eyes.


You will have to get in line after me.

[Alt+F4]

I can't help thinking this is an April Fool's day prank. I don't know why, but the fact that it makes even less sense than usual when looking at PETA.

I would have thought so too, then I remembered the "sea kittens".

http://www.peta.org/sea_kittens/

[MattusMaximus]

What? Hunh? Owww... my brain hurts.

[ravdin]

Club a godless, communist baby seal for Christ.

[AK-Dave]

Too bad you couldn't use baby seals to club the PETA people.

- David

[I Ratant]

Oh, cool! I was born in Bennington, and live in Burlington now. It's fun, but yeah it's cold. I like hearing from fellow Vermonters. :-)
.
I heard those guys living in New Hampshire were really glad when it was split off from Vermont.. Couldn't take another Vermont winter, they said.

[I Ratant]

Club a godless, communist baby seal for Christ.
.
What ever happened to :
"Nuke a gay baby whale for Christ"..?
Aimed at Green Peace, ISTR.

[JimBenArm]

I have no problem with clubbing seals, providing they are of legal age. I don't think they should be out if they are underage, and they should have a designated driver, too.

[ParanoidAndroid]

I don't understand why PETA cares. These left-wing nutjobs never let up. :rolleyes:

If seals want to waste their time and money in dancetoriums, who should stop them?

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_2323449dce8c852ca8.gif (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=15966)


:D

ETA: Damn, JimBenArm just beat me to it.

[fuelair]

Too bad you couldn't use baby seals to club the PETA people.

- DavidFrozen ones work best!!:D

[GreNME]

Are they desperate for attention?

Yes, all the time.

I mean, more so than usual I guess?

This is usual for PETA.

[six7s]

I would have thought so too, then I remembered the "sea kittens".

http://www.peta.org/sea_kittens/Thanks for the link...

http://www.peta.org/sea_kittens/about.asp
...what all this really means is that fish need to fire their PR guy—stat. Whoever was in charge of creating a positive image for fish needs to go right back to working on the Britney Spears account and leave our scaly little friends alone. You've done enough damage, buddy. We've got it from here. And we're going to start by retiring the old name for good. When your name can also be used as a verb that means driving a hook through your head, it's time for a serious image makeover. And who could possibly want to put a hook through a sea kitten?How sad...

Even if they were on the right track (which I doubt), it seems that they have no idea about PR

[Aitch]

And they're getting sillier (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7991324.stm)! :confused:

[Cobalt]

And they're getting sillier (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7991324.stm)! :confused:
Oh dear. They're just plain ridiculous.

[Egil]

I got a bad joke...

A baby seal walks into a club.

[shawmutt]

http://home.comcast.net/~shawmutt/1210442468137mx1.jpg

More nonsense: Germany Blocks PETA Campaign Linking Meat-Eating to Holocaust (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601100&sid=aRhceh.xQH9E&refer=germany)

[Eddie Dane]

I am virtually disgusted by all this!

Join me in Second Life, as I virtually sue these bastards for millions of Linden Dollars!

(and maybe get some wild virtual sex while we're there)

[Cobalt]

I am virtually disgusted by all this!

Join me in Second Life, as I virtually sue these bastards for millions of Linden Dollars!

(and maybe get some wild virtual sex while we're there)

I'll arrange a sit in on Playstation Home, since, er, that's all you really can do....

[asmodean]

I got a bad joke...

A baby seal walks into a club.

And walks up to the bar. The bartender asks "What do you want?"

The seal replies, "Anything but a Canadian Club".

[Sword_Of_Truth]

If you were a hippy child living in a california commune with plans to attend last years PETA seal hunt protest in Newfoundland, Canada, travel costs would have been around 600 to 700 dollars from American Airlines.

Travelling to this years PETA seal hunt protest will only be ~50 dollars (startup costs, 15 dollars for the month if you're already there) from the makers of World of Warcraft
(http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/04/07/peta-rally-to-protest-seal-slaughter/)
No... really. (http://blog.peta.org/archives/2009/04/help_battle_sea.php?c=pwowgb09)

A handful PETA supporters in World of Warcraft will be playing seal hunters. They will be prowling the coastline of the games arctic zones killing seals in-game while others are being invited to come and hunt the hunters.

PETAs past attempts at attention-whoring have variously been accidentally hilarious or crassly tasteless and insensitive (http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1037244664212_30/?hub=Canada), but this time it is already blowing up in their faces. The official Warcraft forums (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16137217275&sid=1&pageNo=3) are already up in arms and are planning a counter-attack:

It seems PETA is going to use WoW to hold an anti seal-clubbing protest...WHO WANTS TO GO BUST IT UP?!!?
Bunch of retards imo.
Precisely why we should @#$% THEM UP!
Link what server they'll be on, and I will SO be there to gank.
I'm quite serious I'll transfer to kill+camp them off the game.
Is whisperwind pvp? Cuz corpse camping PETA would rock so hard.

Somedays... you have to wonder if PETA isn't secretly working for the meat industry?

[Sir Robin Goodfellow]

Well, I support their right to protest whatever however they feel is best as long as they are not breaking any laws in doing so. Even if the way they are protesting doesn't really make any sense.

[neltana]

I'm confused.

PETA is holding an "event" in WOW where they will have players killing virtual seals. They want other players to show up and kill these seal killers. People on the forums are planning to disrupt this by showing up and killing...who exactly?

If they kill the virtual seal hunters, won't they be indistinguishable from folks showing up to support PETA? Corspe camping these guys is what PETA is asking you to do, isn't it?

The only protest that makes any sense is, I guess, going and defending the virtual seal hunters and killing anyone who comes near them. And, frankly, I'm not sure that makes much sense either.

[DC]

WoW :hb:

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I'm confused.

Exactly.

PETA is holding an "event" in WOW where they will have players killing virtual seals. They want other players to show up and kill these seal killers. People on the forums are planning to disrupt this by showing up and killing...who exactly?

If they kill the virtual seal hunters, won't they be indistinguishable from folks showing up to support PETA? Corspe camping these guys is what PETA is asking you to do, isn't it?

The only protest that makes any sense is, I guess, going and defending the virtual seal hunters and killing anyone who comes near them. And, frankly, I'm not sure that makes much sense either.

World of Warcraft is divided into two warring factions; Horde and Alliance. PETAs mock hunters will be playing as horde, while the alliance will be brought in to defend the seals.

The server the protest is being held on is a PVE server, meaning that player vs player combat is optional. If you choose to flag yourself for pvp, then players from the opposing faction will be able to attack you.

From what I've read, the PETA volunteers pretending to be hunters will be playing horde characters and will be flagged for pvp. Players "protesting" the hunt be playing as Alliance. Players involved in the counter attack will likely be from both factions. The horde will be able to attack the protesters directly, while alliance can amuse themselves by slaughtering the seals.

[Lisa Simpson]

They also want the band the Pet Shop Boys to change their name to Rescue Shelter Boys. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7991324.stm)

[neltana]

World of Warcraft is divided into two warring factions; Horde and Alliance. PETAs mock hunters will be playing as horde, while the alliance will be brought in to defend the seals.

The server the protest is being held on is a PVE server, meaning that player vs player combat is optional. If you choose to flag yourself for pvp, then players from the opposing faction will be able to attack you.

From what I've read, the PETA volunteers pretending to be hunters will be playing horde characters and will be flagged for pvp. Players "protesting" the hunt be playing as Alliance. Players involved in the counter attack will likely be from both factions. The horde will be able to attack the protesters directly, while alliance can amuse themselves by slaughtering the seals.
Well, now that I understand the operational details it all makes perfect sense...

So, we'll have Horde seal killers (pro-PETA),
Alliance seal killer killers (pro-PETA),
Alliance seal killer fans (anti-PETA) and
Horde seal killer killer killers (anti-PETA)

The Horde seal killers only kill seals, so they don't have care who is pro- or anti-. The Alliance seal killer killers know that any Horde is either a seal killer or an anti-PETA. The Alliance seal killer fans aren't flagged PVP and they can work on maxing out their valuable fishing skills.

Sounds about as pointless as WOW usually is...thanks for clearing that up.

[IMST]

Exactly.



World of Warcraft is divided into two warring factions; Horde and Alliance. PETAs mock hunters will be playing as horde, while the alliance will be brought in to defend the seals.

The server the protest is being held on is a PVE server, meaning that player vs player combat is optional. If you choose to flag yourself for pvp, then players from the opposing faction will be able to attack you.

From what I've read, the PETA volunteers pretending to be hunters will be playing horde characters and will be flagged for pvp. Players "protesting" the hunt be playing as Alliance. Players involved in the counter attack will likely be from both factions. The horde will be able to attack the protesters directly, while alliance can amuse themselves by slaughtering the seals.

Well, now that I understand the operational details it all makes perfect sense...

So, we'll have Horde seal killers (pro-PETA),
Alliance seal killer killers (pro-PETA),
Alliance seal killer fans (anti-PETA) and
Horde seal killer killer killers (anti-PETA)

The Horde seal killers only kill seals, so they don't have care who is pro- or anti-. The Alliance seal killer killers know that any Horde is either a seal killer or an anti-PETA. The Alliance seal killer fans aren't flagged PVP and they can work on maxing out their valuable fishing skills.

Sounds about as pointless as WOW usually is...thanks for clearing that up.

This is an automated response. This computer user's brain has now melted. You will be hearing from his estate's lawyer.

[Cleon]

This is really stupid. Even for PETA.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Well, now that I understand the operational details it all makes perfect sense...

So, we'll have Horde seal killers (pro-PETA),
Alliance seal killer killers (pro-PETA),
Alliance seal killer fans (anti-PETA) and
Horde seal killer killer killers (anti-PETA)

The Horde seal killers only kill seals, so they don't have care who is pro- or anti-. The Alliance seal killer killers know that any Horde is either a seal killer or an anti-PETA. The Alliance seal killer fans aren't flagged PVP and they can work on maxing out their valuable fishing skills.

Sounds about as pointless as WOW usually is...thanks for clearing that up.

Pleased to be of service. :D

[Egil]

Vegetarian= Old American Indian word for poor hunter.

This is why members of PETA should be prevented from voting (http://www.cnn.com/US/9609/06/fishy.name/)

[Rogue1stclass]

These seems an odd venue, as butchering wildlife is much of what WOW is about.

The in-game seals will probably be long dead before the PETA hunters arrive.

[dudalb]

This is really stupid. Even for PETA.

PETA is like the 9/11 Truthers: Everytime you decide there is no way they can make themselves look dumber, they manage to surprise you.

[Egil]

I lost any possibility of giving PETA any respect when they wanted Fishkill, NY to change the town's name.

[ponderingturtle]

Exactly.



World of Warcraft is divided into two warring factions; Horde and Alliance. PETAs mock hunters will be playing as horde, while the alliance will be brought in to defend the seals.

The server the protest is being held on is a PVE server, meaning that player vs player combat is optional. If you choose to flag yourself for pvp, then players from the opposing faction will be able to attack you.

From what I've read, the PETA volunteers pretending to be hunters will be playing horde characters and will be flagged for pvp. Players "protesting" the hunt be playing as Alliance. Players involved in the counter attack will likely be from both factions. The horde will be able to attack the protesters directly, while alliance can amuse themselves by slaughtering the seals.

Well good to see that PETA is for the killing of Orcs...

[ponderingturtle]

I lost any possibility of giving PETA any respect when they wanted Fishkill, NY to change the town's name.

That was just that they hated any recognition of NY's dutch history. Everything must be converted into english.

[Cleon]

I lost any possibility of giving PETA any respect when they wanted Fishkill, NY to change the town's name.

You've got to be *********** kidding me.

ETA: Nope (http://www.cnn.com/US/9609/06/fishy.name/). The stupid, it burns!

[ponderingturtle]

You've got to be *********** kidding me.

ETA: Nope (http://www.cnn.com/US/9609/06/fishy.name/). The stupid, it burns!

They also wanted Hamburg to change its name to Veggieburg.

Fishkill link (http://www.cnn.com/US/9609/06/fishy.name/)

Hamburg NY link (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32191)

I want to know why do they think people in NY would fall for this stupidity.

[Cleon]

They also wanted Hamburg to change its name to Veggieburg.

Fishkill link (http://www.cnn.com/US/9609/06/fishy.name/)

Hamburg NY link (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32191)

I want to know why do they think people in NY would fall for this stupidity.

I want to know who still gives these froot loops money after they pull ridiculous stunts like that.

[ponderingturtle]

I want to know who still gives these froot loops money after they pull ridiculous stunts like that.

People who truely believe in them?

Remember that the Fundies say the darndest things page has a link to support PETA.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I want to know who still gives these froot loops money after they pull ridiculous stunts like that.

If only "ridiculous stunts" were all that PETA does:

To those people who say, `My father is alive because of animal experimentation,’ I say `Yeah, well, good for you. This dog died so your father could live.’ Sorry, but I am just not behind that kind of trade off.
- PETA celebrity spokesman Bill Maher


If ten people in America died of mad cow disease, in the long run it would save probably millions of lives. Because people would stop eating meat. That’s not a catty thing to say, to say -- in the long run this is what I hope.
- Bill Maher, acceptance speech "“Celebrity Animal Advocate of the Year award” 2003.


Even if animal tests produced a cure for AIDS, we’d be against it.
- PETA Founder Ingrid Newkirk

Arson, property destruction, burglary, and theft are ‘acceptable crimes’ when used for the animal cause.
- PETA co-founder Alex Pacheco


If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course we’re going to be, as a movement, blowing things up and smashing windows … I think it’s a great way to bring about animal liberation … I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows ... Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it.
- Bruce Friedrich, PETA campaign coordinator

More here at Animalscam.com (http://www.animalscam.com/quotes.cfm)

[NoZed Avenger]

These seems an odd venue, as butchering wildlife is much of what WOW is about.

The in-game seals will probably be long dead before the PETA hunters arrive.

It's even worse. They have to pay WoW to do it. Encouraging virtual slaughter by give profit to the MAN.


Just when you think they can't out-dumb themselves.

[six7s]

I want to know who still gives these froot loops money after they pull ridiculous stunts like that.My guess: their parents

[ravdin]

Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughter houses.

-PETA Founder Ingrid Newkirk

[six7s]

Six gazillion brain cells will die in emo heads

Nature abhors vacuuming!

[Agatha]

They also want the band the Pet Shop Boys to change their name to Rescue Shelter Boys. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7991324.stm)

I saw that on the BBC earlier and it made me laugh so hard I snorted tea on my keyboard. I am so attractive sometimes.

There was a spokesman for PETA and a farmer on the radio here (in the UK) this week, discussing PETA's call for a ban on sheepdogs. Apparently, PETA think that sheep should be rounded up by people waving flags and shouting, as this will cause "less stress" to the sheep. :D

Some statistics about the number of dogs euthanised by PETA shelters in the US was brought up - I don't have the figures to hand but it was of the order of 90+% of the animals taken in by the shelters. The Pet Shop Boys would be better off keeping their name, judging by those stats.

[fuelair]

Vegetarian= Old American Indian word for poor hunter.

This is why members of PETA should be prevented from voting (http://www.cnn.com/US/9609/06/fishy.name/)I would happily go a bit further:D!

[shawmutt]

They are against virtual seal killing, but not against skinning and the leather working trade? When I played I killed countless animals, skinned them, and left their corpses to rot (which took about 5 minutes, then they respawned and I did it all over again). They truly have become a parody of themselves.

[six7s]

They truly have become a parody of themselves.Like the Ouroboros, they swallow their own crap

[brodski]

Exactly.



World of Warcraft is divided into two warring factions; Horde and Alliance. PETAs mock hunters will be playing as horde, while the alliance will be brought in to defend the seals.

The server the protest is being held on is a PVE server, meaning that player vs player combat is optional. If you choose to flag yourself for pvp, then players from the opposing faction will be able to attack you.

From what I've read, the PETA volunteers pretending to be hunters will be playing horde characters and will be flagged for pvp. Players "protesting" the hunt be playing as Alliance. Players involved in the counter attack will likely be from both factions. The horde will be able to attack the protesters directly, while alliance can amuse themselves by slaughtering the seals.

is it wrong of me to want to turn up with a bag full of these http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40536 ?

[dudalb]

I want to know who still gives these froot loops money after they pull ridiculous stunts like that.

A bunch of dumbass Showbiz celebs, mainly.
You see a lot of them supporting PETA in interviews, so you have to assume that is where a lot of the funding comes from.
Bill Maher is a very strong supporter of PETA. Another reason why, despite his opposition to organized religon, he is not exactly a poster child for Rational thinking.

[dudalb]

Waiting for our resident PETA supporter to show up...3..2..1...

[Polaris]

I can't have been the only one to picture one of these (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hrkOZ2nG4Vg/SVaIQoUirlI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/VOakbcUgITY/s320/PoliceRobot.jpg) with a club that you control from the comfort of your own home with a joystick and CCTV, like a Predator drone.

I mean, who wouldn't want to try that at least once?

[six7s]

Bill Maher is a very strong supporter of PETABummer...

I had no eyed deer...

:(

[dudalb]

Maher also thinks that the Germ theory of Medicine is nonsense ,and shills for "Alternative Medicine" on his show quite a bit.
He is a prime example of how you can reject one kind of woo only to fall for another bigtime.

[pchams]

Bear in mind, that PETA are the intelligentsia that decided comparing murdered women to pigs was kosher:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1081358721269_3/?hub=Canada

[Cobalt]

Waiting for our resident PETA supporter to show up...3..2..1...

We have one of those 'round here?

[Verde]

I would have thought so too, then I remembered the "sea kittens".

http://www.peta.org/sea_kittens/

Colbert, of course, had the definitive word:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=land%20fish

Hmm, land fish, tasty!

V.

[luchog]

We have one of those 'round here?

Two, but I haven't seen either one post in a while.

[fuelair]

is it wrong of me to want to turn up with a bag full of these http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40536 ?I like it!!Though I am still partial to the Starship Trooper's 30-second bomb.:D

[dudalb]

I like it!!Though I am still partial to the Starship Trooper's 30-second bomb.:D



"I am a 30 Second Bomb..I am a 29 Second Bomb"....

[Morrigan]

As bad as I hate PETA in this case I have to agree. Clubbing seal pups to death is a disgusting sight.

1) It's illegal (at least in Canada) to hunt whitecoat seal pups.
2) Seal hunting provides food and income in small coastal areas with limited resources.
3) Seal hunting controls the otherwise overwhelming population of seals.
4) The method of killing is a quick blow directly to the head, killing the animal almost instantly - it's actually one of the most humane form of hunting.
5) PETA are nutjobs and if you find yourself agreeing with them, it's likely you are lacking in facts and going from a purely emotional, reactionary perspective.

Just saying.

[Aerik]

hahahaha. Has Peta heard of 'yeti sports' ?

[six7s]

3) Seal hunting controls the otherwise overwhelming population of seals.3a) Seal hunting sustains an otherwise hungry, cold and cash-poor population of humans.

No?

[Euromutt]

"I am a 30 Second Bomb..I am a 29 Second Bomb"...."Kinder to just shoot a guy."

(Though to be pedantic, IIRC the line was "I'm a 30-second bomb! I'm a 30-second bomb! Twenty-nine! Twenty-eight! ...")

[Stacko]

4) The method of killing is a quick blow directly to the head, killing the animal almost instantly - it's actually one of the most humane form of hunting.

Quick correction on that the method of killing for most of the seals is a rifle shot. The hakapik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakapik) is mainly used for retrieving the dead seals from the ice flow not killing them. This isn't to say that some seals aren't clubbed to death just that hunters found it more efficient to shot them.

[Cleon]

Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughter houses.

-PETA Founder Ingrid Newkirk

Hey Ingrid...That's why they call them broiler chickens!

[fuelair]

"Kinder to just shoot a guy."

(Though to be pedantic, IIRC the line was "I'm a 30-second bomb! I'm a 30-second bomb! Twenty-nine! Twenty-eight! ...")
You recall correctly!!:D

[fuelair]

"Kinder to just shoot a guy."

(Though to be pedantic, IIRC the line was "I'm a 30-second bomb! I'm a 30-second bomb! Twenty-nine! Twenty-eight! ...")
To be also pedantic/accurate, the purpose was to clear people out. IIRC, the use of same in the book was in a heavilly occupied government building - by the time the bomb detonated, it was a mostly empty government building, with limited death/wounding of the occupants.:)

[pchams]

3a) Seal hunting sustains an otherwise hungry, cold and cash-poor population of humans.

No?

Did you miss #2?

6) Culling the sustainable seal herd replenishes the overfished cod population.

[Morrigan]

3a) Seal hunting sustains an otherwise hungry, cold and cash-poor population of humans.

No?
That closely resembles point #2. :)

Quick correction on that the method of killing for most of the seals is a rifle shot. The hakapik (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakapik) is mainly used for retrieving the dead seals from the ice flow not killing them. This isn't to say that some seals aren't clubbed to death just that hunters found it more efficient to shot them.

Hmm, your own link seems to say that it's mostly done this way in Norway, not Canada and Alaska. Also, your own link says that clubbing is generally more humane than shooting:

Although it is often claimed that the hakapik is an inhumane hunting tool, it is favored by sealers because it allows them to kill the seal without damaging the pelt. Also, with a rifle the sealer runs the risk of hurting, but not killing the seal, causing them to flee, wounded, back into the ocean to die slowly. Further, studies by American veterinary scientists on the use of the hakapik on the seal hunt carried out on Pribilof Islands of Alaska suggested that it is an efficient tool designed to kill the animal quickly and humanely when used correctly.[2]



6) Culling the sustainable seal herd replenishes the overfished cod population.

I didn't think of that, but that's a good point.

[six7s]

Did you miss #2?

That closely resembles point #2. :):o

Maybe I was PWIoStWftT: posting whilst incapable of seeing the wood for the trees

[Wildy]

They also wanted Hamburg to change its name to Veggieburg.

Fishkill link (http://www.cnn.com/US/9609/06/fishy.name/)

Hamburg NY link (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=32191)

I want to know why do they think people in NY would fall for this stupidity.

My God. Imagine what would happen if they started doing that in Germany. I mean most of the cities there have foods named after them, most of them made from meat.

I want to know who still gives these froot loops money after they pull ridiculous stunts like that.

Idiots. That's who.

People who truely believe in them?

Remember that the Fundies say the darndest things page has a link to support PETA.

PETA (http://www.aspca.org/)? Really (http://www.fstdt.com/)? The link says "support animal rights", but it doesn't link to PETA.

[NobbyNobbs]

I lost any possibility of giving PETA any respect when they wanted Fishkill, NY to change the town's name.

I suppose that now they want it changed to "SeaKittenSave, NY"?

[Cleon]

Last night at SITP I had a big, thick, juicy steak in PETA's honor.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Last night at SITP I had a big, thick, juicy steak in PETA's honor.

My mouth contains meat eating teeth and plant eating teeth. I too did as God (or evolution, your pick) designed me to do the other night.

I enjoyed a nice light ceasers salad at Outbacks.

Followed by a 16 ounce slab of roast "murder victim" (PETA terminology).

[six7s]

PETA (http://www.aspca.org/)? Really (http://www.fstdt.com/)? The link says "support animal rights", but it doesn't link to PETA.

It seems as though some ASPCA supporters want to distance themselves from PETA

Google: site:www.aspca.org peta (http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awww.aspca.org+peta)
Results 1 - 10 of about 35 from www.aspca.org for peta

[ponderingturtle]

To be also pedantic/accurate, the purpose was to clear people out. IIRC, the use of same in the book was in a heavilly occupied government building - by the time the bomb detonated, it was a mostly empty government building, with limited death/wounding of the occupants.:)

And incite terror.

[ponderingturtle]

PETA (http://www.aspca.org/)? Really (http://www.fstdt.com/)? The link says "support animal rights", but it doesn't link to PETA.

It used to. Seems the site manager got a clue.

Link to thread on that (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=77814)

[Stacko]

Hmm, your own link seems to say that it's mostly done this way in Norway, not Canada and Alaska. Also, your own link says that clubbing is generally more humane than shooting:

Sorry. Forgot to link the main article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_hunt#Hakapiks).

In short:

The hakapik is a tool of hunters in the Gulf of St.Lawrence. Hunters who operate on the 'front' off the northeast coast of Newfoundland primarily use high powered rifles. The hakapik is then used as a last resort in retrieving the animal from the ice floe, and ensuring it is dead.

Since the majority are killed on "The Front" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Canadian_commercial_seal_hunt#Locations_and_q uota) (Newfoundland and Labrador) it seems to me that most seals in Canada are shot and not clubbed. I'm not here dispute that clubbing is more humane than shooting the animal. I'm just pointing out that using that as a defense isn't the best argument to defend the hunt.