Linda Gronlund

[tj15]

Isn't Linda Gronlund the woman who was on flight 93 and made a call to a relative that revealed the combination to her safe?

Truthers, how was that call faked?

To me, this little detail is far more important to debunking 9/11 conspiracy theories than most people think. If this call is not fake, then all the calls are very likely to be real. If all the calls are real, then that means that there were real hijackers onboard the airplane, which then hurts the remote control airplane theories. The calls and the CVR then also prove that there really was a struggle for the control of the airplane (as seen by eyewitnesses on the ground).

[dtugg]

I've heard this addressed only by one twoofer. According to the Nazi that posts here, the jooos got a safe from Wal-Mart, planted it at her house with a fake will inside, and gave that combo to the sister in the fake phone call. I don't think I need to explain why that is ridiculous. I believe he also made the disgusting suggestion that the joooos could have paid the sister a hundred thousand dollars or so to just make the whole thing up.

[Dave Rogers]

Isn't Linda Gronlund the woman who was on flight 93 and made a call to a relative that revealed the combination to her safe?

Truthers, how was that call faked?

According to 9/11-investigator, Mossad agents broke into her house, stole her wall safe, and replaced it with one with a combination they knew. No, really, he actually said that. I'm not sure which episode of "Mission Impossible" he got it from.

Dave

[alexi_drago]

According to 9/11-investigator, Mossad agents broke into her house, stole her wall safe, and replaced it with one with a combination they knew. No, really, he actually said that. I'm not sure which episode of "Mission Impossible" he got it from.

Dave

They did all that so they could make up a fake phone call containing the safe combination, the purpose of which was to somehow make events look less suspicious????

Clever stuff, and it only cost 'em 100k.

[MikeW]

Gronlund left a message on her sister's answerphone. The FBI interview said, amongst other things, the message described "where they could find her personal papers in a safe at her home and the combination" (source (http://911myths.com/index.php/Image:Team7_Box12_93Calls_LindaGronlund.pdf)).

As I mentioned elsewhere, though, some of the "remote control" truthers also believe there were hijackers on the plane, but they were just patsies. So showing the calls to be real won't change their minds, and in fact there's a sizeable number of truthers who already believe they were (they're the ones who complain about Griffin's absurd "voice morphing" theories, for instance).

[Horatius]

Clever stuff, and it only cost 'em 100k.



So, the theory is the Jooish conspirators paid retail rates for their shills?

As if!

[T.A.M.]

According to 9/11-investigator, Mossad agents broke into her house, stole her wall safe, and replaced it with one with a combination they knew. No, really, he actually said that. I'm not sure which episode of "Mission Impossible" he got it from.

Dave

you are kidding right? No person sane enough to use the internet would actually believe such a thing, would they???:boggled:

TAM:)

[twinstead]

you are kidding right? No person sane enough to use the internet would actually believe such a thing, would they???:boggled:


T.A.M. You've been on this forum long enough to know your question is rhetorical, right? ;)

[T.A.M.]

T.A.M. You've been on this forum long enough to know your question is rhetorical, right? ;)

I would answer you, but I believe your question of my question is rhetorical.

TAM;)

[KreeL]

I see nothing in the transcripts about a combination to a safe. It would be ideal if we could listen to the recording and judge for ourselves.

[dtugg]

I see nothing in the transcripts about a combination to a safe. It would be ideal if we could listen to the recording and judge for ourselves.

Do you think her sister is a liar? This is a yes or no question, twoofer, not that I expect you to answer.

[beachnut]

According to 9/11-investigator, Mossad agents broke into her house, stole her wall safe, and replaced it with one with a combination they knew. No, really, he actually said that. I'm not sure which episode of "Mission Impossible" he got it from.

Dave
Only a select few 911Truth dolts can repeat that story without laughing to death.

[roundhead]

Do you think her sister is a liar? This is a yes or no question, twoofer, not that I expect you to answer.



Ask me if i think the Olsen's are liars??


If one is lying, the whole story isnt to be trusted.

[T.A.M.]

must be convenient to live in your world.

If one is lying, then it is all bunk.

That is rich...

TAM

[roundhead]

must be convenient to live in your world.

If one is lying, then it is all bunk.

That is rich...

TAM


No, i am wise enough to not believe known liars.

A distinction that has served me spendidly

[T.A.M.]

No, i am wise enough to not believe known liars.

A distinction that has served me spendidly

Well if that is the case, you better give up on all the so called "evidence" the truthers have provided you with, as we have shown them to be, time and time again, liars. And if one of them is a liar, then none of what they say can be trusted...right???

TAM;)

[johnny karate]

No, i am wise enough to not believe known liars.

A distinction that has served me spendidly

Is that the same thing that allows you to identify the FDNY as cowards (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4413684&postcount=164)?

Yeah, bile and irrationality has really served you well. :rolleyes:

[roundhead]

Well if that is the case, you better give up on all the so called "evidence" the truthers have provided you with, as we have shown them to be, time and time again, liars. And if one of them is a liar, then none of what they say can be trusted...right???

TAM;)


I have no problem admitting nobody is 100% correct.

What i have a problem with is people who defend the OCT as if it indeed is 100% correct.

Even i believe little bits and pieces of it.

[FineWine]

Ask me if i think the Olsen's are liars??


If one is lying, the whole story isnt to be trusted.


Barbara Olson was killed on September 11. You are saying that she allowed herself to be murdered to help the conspiracy? Don't you people have a speck of common decency?

[TokenMac]

Barbara Olson was killed on September 11. You are saying that she allowed herself to be murdered to help the conspiracy? Don't you people have a speck of common decency?

Nope, they love to dance on the victim's grave while yelling about how thier "doing it for the families".

Oh, and they also love to call the victim's family in on the whole thing too.

[T.A.M.]

I have no problem admitting nobody is 100% correct.

What i have a problem with is people who defend the OCT as if it indeed is 100% correct.

Even i believe little bits and pieces of it.

Well kindly point out one person here who has said that the commission got everything correct, or that the official account of the attacks is 100% accurate?

TAM:)

[BCR]

You silly people...Flight 93 did not crash at all, but landed safely at NWO airflield in the Bahama's. Ms. Gronlund is now living it up with a new identity with a beach-bum in an NWO tropical beach house.

[tsig]

You silly people...Flight 93 did not crash at all, but landed safely at NWO airflield in the Bahama's. Ms. Gronlund is now living it up with a new identity with a beach-bum in an NWO tropical beach house.

Yes the NWO has this flashlight like thing that removes memory.

[AJM8125]

Yes the NWO has this flashlight like thing that removes memory.

note to self; hit tsig again, he remembers the flashy thing.

[Horatius]

You silly people...Flight 93 did not crash at all, but landed safely at NWO airflield in the Bahama's. Ms. Gronlund is now living it up with a new identity with a beach-bum in an NWO tropical beach house.



An idyllic existence only slightly marred by the Mossad Agents constantly breaking into her room to change her safe on her.

[FineWine]

Nope, they love to dance on the victim's grave while yelling about how thier "doing it for the families".

Oh, and they also love to call the victim's family in on the whole thing too.


He said "Olsens"--plural. He thinks that a woman who was murdered by the hijackers was part of the plot.

[9/11-investigator]

According to 9/11-investigator, Mossad agents broke into her house, stole her wall safe, and replaced it with one with a combination they knew. No, really, he actually said that. I'm not sure which episode of "Mission Impossible" he got it from.

Dave

I'm amazed that you actually remembered my story,which obviously I completely made up. The point however was to show that you cannot conclude with 100% certainty that the voice morphing scenario is debunked by the safe story. And as Kreel says, there is no reference to the call in the transscript. Here is my story again:

http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com/#fake

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Debunkers like to point to the phone call from Linda Gronlund. She called her sister and told her the secret code from the safe containing her will. How was it possible for Mossad agents to know this code. Her is a possible explanation:

It's 18:25 as Joe Deluca picks up his cell phone to call his girlfriend Linda Gronlund.

Two seconds after he selects her number from his buddy list a red light starts to blink in a gray office building in Herzliya, Israel. A girl in that office quickly puts on her headset, grabs a pencil and a writing pad and starts to listen attentively. Joe Deluca was put on a watch list after it was known that he had had booked on flight93 to San Francisco.

triiinnng

Linda: hello?
Joe: hi sweetheart, it's me.
Linda: Oh hi, darling!
Joe: just calling to say that I will be a little late tonight. Did you have dinner?
Linda: no, not yet. I had a busy day. I can wait for you to come home so we can have dinner together.
Joe: fine. Did you go to the notary today?
Linda, yeah, I did. Went very smooth actually. I just had to sign and I could take a copy of my will with me. I have put the papers on the pile of mail on the drawer I have to work through but I am too tired now. I'll do that after we return from Frisco. I am really looking forward to that trip next week.
Joe: yeah, me too. OK, I have to hang up. I'll see you in an hour. I have forgotten to bring the keys though.
Linda: Oh, I'll take a bath first. Just in case I am not ready, you know where to find the key, do you?
Joe: sure, see you later.

Click.

In the office the girl puts off her headset and leans backward and muses for 10 minutes and then starts to smile...

On the morning of 9/11 a car is parked 50 meters from Linda Gronlund's house with a man sitting in it. Although it is still dark, the man is wearing sunglasses and is reading a newspaper with 2 holes in it, just not to draw attention. At 6:05 Linda Gronlund leaves her house. When her car is out of sight, the man leaves his car, walks towards the house with a metal box under his arm.Without hesitation he takes a key from under a flower pot, opens the door and goes in to return after 5 minutes without the metal box. He steps into the car and drives off.

P.S. march 12, 2009. Today a new article from C. Ketcham (http://www.alternet.org/audits/130891/breaking_the_taboo_on_israel's_spying_efforts_on_t he_united_states/?page=entire) about Israeli eavesdropping in the US telecom systems. It is clear from this article that long before 9/11 Israel was able to listen in on most of the telephone conversations on US soil. Hence there can be no doubt that the Mossad was able to collect data and sound samples from future 9/11 passengers.

[dtugg]

Nazis will make up any ridiculous fantasy so long as it has something to do with making jooos look evil.

[9/11-investigator]

Nazis will make up any ridiculous fantasy so long as it has something to do with making jooos look evil.

Whatever you say, comrade dtugg.

[Dave Rogers]

I'm amazed that you actually remembered my story,which obviously I completely made up.

It's hard to forget anything that laughable, even amongst all the other stuff that you obviously completely made up.

Dave

[MikeW]

as Kreel says, there is no reference to the call in the transscript.
Page 3 of the PDF file I linked to earlier (http://911myths.com/index.php/Image:Team7_Box12_93Calls_LindaGronlund.pdf) has Elsa Strong talking about a message received on her answer phone, ending "the rest of the message was of a personal nature, relating how much she loves them and where they could find her personal papers in a safe at her home and the combination".

[dtugg]

Whatever you say, comrade dtugg.

It's true and you prove it with every single post that you make. And comrade? LOL! That's a good one. Do you think that one has to be a Soviet style communist to hate Nazi scum like you? News flash: everybody hates Nazi scum like you.