Sr Project Engineer(Electrical)For Wtc joins AE911 Truth

[roundhead]

Put this is your pipe and smoke it.. (http://www.ae911truth.org/info/50)


Richard Humenn, photo from time period of WTC buildings construction, joins petition effort. Among more than 600 architects and engineers who have signed our petition, one doesn't get much closer to the inner workings of the WTC than Richard Humenn, our Petitioner of the Month for April. Humenn was the Senior Project Engineer-Electrical who worked on the construction of the WTC from the bidding period to several decades afterward.
Humenn earned a bachelor's degree in electrical engineering from Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute in 1954. Shortly after graduating, he spent three years as a first lieutenant and electrical engineer in the US Army, building power plants in South Korea after the Korean war. Upon his return in the late 1950s, he went to work for Joseph Loring, whose firm would eventually win the electrical contract for the construction of the WTC. He began his work on the WTC project around 1963 and continued to be involved until his retirement in 1997.
Last year, AE911Truth arranged an interview with Humenn to get further insight. In that discussion, Humenn admits the building collapses didn't look right. Recalling the robust cage structure of the core columns, exterior columns and hefty girders, he said, "I couldn't visualize the core columns coming down with the floors." He was also surprised that the collapse initiation was at the top instead of the point of impact. After watching the presentation by Richard Gage, Humenn says, "I was compelled to want to see some further investigation."
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[lapman]

Oh gee. An electrical engineer that has no idea of structural engineering has been fooled by the 911twoof liars. Big deal.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I've removed all the unecessary and pointless crap from your post, leaving only the pertinent information:

Humenn admits the building collapses didn't look right. Recalling the robust cage structure of the core columns, exterior columns and hefty girders, he said, "I couldn't visualize the core columns coming down with the floors." He was also surprised that the collapse initiation was at the top instead of the point of impact. After watching the presentation by Richard Gage, Humenn says, "I was compelled to want to see some further investigation."

In other words, yet another tool who doesn't know anything about how buildings collapse says the WTC collapses, to his ignorant and uninformed opinion, "didn't look right".

Thr 9/11 twoof movement: Running on Empty Since 9/12/2001

[MikeW]

Humenn signed up with ae911truth in February 2008. Nothing really changed then, and I can't imagine repeating his quotes now will have much effect, either.

[16.5]

Put this is your pipe and smoke it..

That is some awful fancy typing, Round.

Anyway, nice fallacious appeal to improper authority, lack of foundation, and perhaps the single most Milquetoast show of support for Cardboard and the Pizza Boxes we have ever seen.

On the other hand, maybe I am all wet about this, maybe the Cardboard and the Pizza Boxes have a history of honoring individuals with an established history of solid study of 911, with a firm understanding of the physics involved. Lets look at the March honoree, shall we.....?

Hee hee hee!

[T.A.M.]

Put this is your pipe and smoke it..

From AE911:


Richard Humenn, photo from time period of WTC buildings construction, joins petition effort. Among more than 600 architects and engineers who have signed our petition, one doesn't get much closer to the inner workings of the WTC than Richard Humenn, our Petitioner of the Month for April. Humenn was the Senior Project Engineer-Electrical who worked on the construction of the WTC from the bidding period to several decades afterward.
Humenn earned a bachelor's degree in electrical engineering from Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute in 1954. Shortly after graduating, he spent three years as a first lieutenant and electrical engineer in the US Army, building power plants in South Korea after the Korean war. Upon his return in the late 1950s, he went to work for Joseph Loring, whose firm would eventually win the electrical contract for the construction of the WTC. He began his work on the WTC project around 1963 and continued to be involved until his retirement in 1997.
Last year, AE911Truth arranged an interview with Humenn to get further insight. In that discussion, Humenn admits the building collapses didn't look right. Recalling the robust cage structure of the core columns, exterior columns and hefty girders, he said, "I couldn't visualize the core columns coming down with the floors." He was also surprised that the collapse initiation was at the top instead of the point of impact. After watching the presentation by Richard Gage, Humenn says, "I was compelled to want to see some further investigation."

Yah...tell him to produce a paper with calculations, indicating how the WTCs, any of them, were brought down by controlled demolition.

Otherwise...SO!!!

TAM:)

[beachnut]

Put this is your pipe and smoke it..

From AE911:...
... Humenn admits the building collapses didn't look right.
... After watching the presentation by Richard Gage, Humenn says, "I was compelled to want to see some further investigation."
Didn't look right? Wow, great evidence he is using his engineering skills for that revelation.

I was compelled to see further investigation? After the doltish Gage junk? The guy sure is ignorant on 911 issues. He has no clue.

Great post exposing yet another gullible do nothing dolt who fell for Gage parade of A&E with no knowledge to save them from the fraud of Gage lies, hearsay and dumb delusions.

Looks like Humenn cut and pasted into his brain some stupid ideas on 911, just like you cut and pasted the latest person falling for the nut case ideas of Gage. Another who lets other people think for him.

Add Humenn's pile of evidence to Gage's, and you have zero evidence; holding at zero for more than 7 years. ... thanks for reminding me Gage is a fraud.

[boloboffin]

the collapse initiation was at the top instead of the point of impact.

Huh?

[Shrinker]

Huh?

Yeah.... what's he talking about Roundhead?

[boloboffin]

Oh, I bet it's the "descending antenna on WTC 1" argument.

[tsig]

Put this is your pipe and smoke it..

From AE911:


Richard Humenn, photo from time period of WTC buildings construction, joins petition effort. Among more than 600 architects and engineers who have signed our petition, one doesn't get much closer to the inner workings of the WTC than Richard Humenn, our Petitioner of the Month for April. Humenn was the Senior Project Engineer-Electrical who worked on the construction of the WTC from the bidding period to several decades afterward.
Humenn earned a bachelor's degree in electrical engineering from Brooklyn Polytechnic Institute in 1954. Shortly after graduating, he spent three years as a first lieutenant and electrical engineer in the US Army, building power plants in South Korea after the Korean war. Upon his return in the late 1950s, he went to work for Joseph Loring, whose firm would eventually win the electrical contract for the construction of the WTC. He began his work on the WTC project around 1963 and continued to be involved until his retirement in 1997.
Last year, AE911Truth arranged an interview with Humenn to get further insight. In that discussion, Humenn admits the building collapses didn't look right. Recalling the robust cage structure of the core columns, exterior columns and hefty girders, he said, "I couldn't visualize the core columns coming down with the floors." He was also surprised that the collapse initiation was at the top instead of the point of impact. After watching the presentation by Richard Gage, Humenn says, "I was compelled to want to see some further investigation."

When he says ""I was compelled to want to see some further investigation." does he mean that Gage pulled a gun on him?.

Just goes to show you to what depths of depravity some will sink to.

You should be ashamed to support such conduct Roundhead.

[Grizzly Bear]

Put this is your pipe and smoke it..

Last year, AE911Truth arranged an interview with Humenn to get further insight. In that discussion, Humenn admits the building collapses didn't look right. Recalling the robust cage structure of the core columns, exterior columns and hefty girders, he said, "I couldn't visualize the core columns coming down with the floors." He was also surprised that the collapse initiation was at the top instead of the point of impact. After watching the presentation by Richard Gage, Humenn says, "I was compelled to want to see some further investigation."

Fine with me, all he has to do now is present his professional opinion on what he thinks is wrong with the collapse. If his work does better that AE911truth's other efforts then maybe he'll be the first from that group produce something compelling. It would be far more than anything the group as a whole has done so far. Best of luck...

[twinstead]

I may be missing something, but isn't "the collapse initiation was at the top instead of the point of impact" completely, hopelessly, breathtakingly wrong?

[tsig]

Oh gee. An electrical engineer that has no idea of structural engineering has been fooled by the 911twoof liars. Big deal.

It's OK 'cause the truthers have no answers but only watts.

[Grizzly Bear]

I may be missing something, but isn't "the collapse initiation was at the top instead of the point of impact" completely, hopelessly, breathtakingly wrong?

Probably an indication that I shouldn't be holding my breath about him being the first from AE911 to produce anything compelling

[AJM8125]

An electrical engineer who wired up the WTC you say? Excellent. Hey Roundhead, why don't you ask your electrical engineer how much det cord it would take to wire up demolition charges. Should be an easy answer for someone who's actually pulled wire through its conduits and risers. And as a follow up, ask him how this could be done clandestinely.

Thanks.

[Hokulele]

I may be missing something, but isn't "the collapse initiation was at the top instead of the point of impact" completely, hopelessly, breathtakingly wrong?


As well as the comment about the core columns coming down with the floors.

[johnny karate]

I guess because this guy has "WTC" in his resume he's automatically an authority on how the towers collapsed. (What's the over/under on how long before Truthers dub him a "whistleblower" due to his association with the WTC?)

What deluded conspiracy theorists like roundhead never seem to understand is it's not who is saying it, but rather what is being said. And in this guy's case, it's tantamount to nothing.

Also, I'm wondering if roundhead would care to explain how this electrical engineer became interested in the details of 9/11 in manner that coincides with his claim that the majority of the world's building-related engineers are uninterested or unaware of them.

[nicepants]

Put this is your pipe and smoke it..


Another example illustrating that goal of truthers is not a new investigation, but the (self-perceived) "PWNAGE" of their opponents on the internet.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Haha. I like how roundhead put the word "electrical" in parentheses after the word "engineer", as if it's a minor detail with no significance to the discussion whatsoever. I suppose the only reason he didn't just leave it out completely is because he actually figured that someone here would call him out on it.

[Doubt]

An electrical engineer who wired up the WTC you say? Excellent. Hey Roundhead, why don't you ask your electrical engineer how much det cord it would take to wire up demolition charges. Should be an easy answer for someone who's actually pulled wire through its conduits and risers. And as a follow up, ask him how this could be done clandestinely.

Thanks.

ummm.....

You do know that det cord is an explosive, right? No wire there.

Just nit picking.

[roundhead]

Ok, OK...i get it.

If somebody slurps out of the same rancid punch bowl as you OCT slurpers, they are knowledgable and have an informed opinion.

And if they dont......

[NutCracker]

the building collapses didn't look right. Recalling the robust cage structure of the core columns, exterior columns and hefty girders, he said, "I couldn't visualize the core columns coming down with the floors." He was also surprised that the collapse initiation was at the top instead of the point of impact. After watching the presentation by Richard Gage, Humenn says, "I was compelled to want to see some further investigation."


Another one doubting on the grounds of personal disbelief. Disbelief founded on a shallow, ignorant opinion.

This TM seems to be a dolt magnet indeed. Very impressive. Please RH give us more to smoke, it's like N2O.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

ummm.....

You do know that det cord is an explosive, right? No wire there.

Just nit picking.


I think the point he was making is that someone who probably had a hand in figuring how much wire to run throughout the towers would be able to give a good estimate of how much det cord it would take to connect any alleged explosives.

Ok, OK...i get it.

If somebody slurps out of the same rancid punch bowl as you OCT slurpers, they are knowledgable and have an informed opinion.

And if they dont......


Don't be an idiot. Our so-called "rancid punch bowls" are actual, working structural engineers. Your "punch bowl of enlightenment", as I assume that's how you must view your own people, are only engineers in an extremely general sense.

Or are you suggesting that an electrical engineer would have insight into the failure of a structure that a structural engineer would not?

[roundhead]

I think the point he was making is that someone who probably had a hand in figuring how much wire to run throughout the towers would be able to give a good estimate of how much det cord it would take to connect any alleged explosives.



I think an Engineer who was involved from pretty much day one with the towers would be in a position to have a unique perspective.


Kinda like another guy, Frank Martini, the project construction manager, who also uttered a professional opinion not in sync with the fecal slurping windbags that infest this place.

Gee, what is it with high ranking engineers that helped build the towers that they wont slurp out of the OCT punchbowl

[Bobert]

Roundhead,
I take it you found someone who is not a "weenie sucker"?
Good job there bud!
Take that off of your list of people that you slander
NYFD and stroke victims.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Kinda like another guy, Frank Martini, the project construction manager, who also uttered a professional opinion not in sync with the fecal slurping windbags that infest this place.


Frank DeMartini can't possibly have an opinion, professional or otherwise, about the collapses. He died on 9/11.

Gee, what is it with high ranking engineers that helped build the towers that they wont slurp out of the OCT punchbowl


I really hope you don't consider 2 to be a large number...

[johnny karate]

Ok, OK...i get it.

If somebody slurps out of the same rancid punch bowl as you OCT slurpers, they are knowledgable and have an informed opinion.

And if they dont......

Why do keep having us slurp out of a "rancid punch bowl"? That implies the punch was at one point palatable, and as it is punch, possibly delicious. You're not trying to imply the OCT was at some point delicious are you? I recommend "trough" or "toilet". If you're going to make feeble attempts to insult us with lame metaphors, at least make the metaphors internally consistent.

[roundhead]

Roundhead,
I take it you found someone who is not a "weenie sucker"?
Good job there bud!
Take that off of your list of people that you slander
NYFD and stroke victims.

Beachie gets zero break from me until he quits calling everybody who disagrees with him callous names.

His mouth is seemingly fine, and that all i know about him, thankfully.

[MarkyX]

Electrical Engineer = doesn't build skyscrapers.

Next.

[Bobert]

Why do keep having us slurp out of a "rancid punch bowl"? That implies the punch was at one point palatable, and as it is punch, possibly delicious. You're not trying to imply the OCT was at some point delicious are you? I recommend "trough" or "toilet". If you're going to make feeble attempts to insult us with lame metaphors, at least make the metaphors internally consistent.
JK,
Stop being a "weenie sucker"!

[roundhead]

Frank Martini can't possibly have an opinion, professional or otherwise, about the collapses. He died on 9/11.




I really hope you don't consider 2 to be a large number...


Wrong...you know what he said even multiple plane impacts would do to the towers....nothing........His opinion is demanding of respect, he built them.

Should i post his quote, when he was asked about planes impacting the towers????

[NutCracker]

Ok, OK...i get it.

If somebody slurps out of the same rancid punch bowl as you OCT slurpers, they are knowledgable and have an informed opinion.

And if they dont......


Cut the transparent inversions please. They are getting boring.

Hmm.. no.. When we analyse the arguments of 9/11 Truthers we observe that they are uninformed. Your triumphant OP contains a fine specimen.

We reject these arguments because they ARE flawed.

It is you rejecting arguments on the grounds that they don't suit your agenda.

[beachnut]

Ok, OK...i get it.

If somebody slurps out of the same rancid punch bowl as you OCT slurpers, they are knowledgable and have an informed opinion.

And if they dont......
Your new found engineer has no evidence to help you or Gage make your delusion real. Another failed engineer falls for lies of Gage, who stole the lies in the first place.

[roundhead]

Frank Martini can't possibly have an opinion, professional or otherwise, about the collapses. He died on 9/11.




I really hope you don't consider 2 to be a large number...



There was a project construction manager, and a project construction electrician manager, both are on record not slurping the OCT.

How many other MANAGERS on the project with the same/like responsibilities can you quote that will slurp with you???

Linky please???????????????

[nicepants]

Ok, OK...i get it.

If somebody slurps out of the same rancid punch bowl as you OCT slurpers, they are knowledgable and have an informed opinion.

And if they dont......

No. If they're experts in electricity, then that's what they're experts on. (not building collapses)

If we got the lead plumber for the WTC towers to come here and say that it was clearly not a CD...does that mean anything? I suppose it would only be significant if he agreed with the truthers...since so few scientists do they have to parade each one around with threads like this.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Wrong...you know what he said even multiple plane impacts would do to the towers....nothing........


But he said nothing about what fire would do to the structure.

Should i post his quote, when he was asked about planes impacting the towers????


Sure, if you want. Post the part where he talks about how the damaged structure would hold up against a multi-floor office fire, too. Oh, wait...

There was a project construction manager, and a project construction electrician manager, both are on record not slurping the OCT.


Please, roundhead. Think. Just a little bit. Frank DeMartini has no opinion about the performance of the towers on 9/11, because he died that day. He can't possibly reject the generally accepted account, because he was not alive when it was coalescing.

His support for your insane cause is entirely within your own head.

[roundhead]

No. If they're experts in electricity, then that's what they're experts on. (not building collapses)

If we got the lead plumber for the WTC towers to come here and say that it was clearly not a CD...does that mean anything? I suppose it would only be significant if he agreed with the truthers...since so few scientists do they have to parade each one around with threads like this.



So, all Engineers at AE 911 who are construction/structural Engineers are correct then.

Thanks, i already knew that, but i am glad you agree. You indeed have hope

[Redtail]

Wrong...you know what he said even multiple plane impacts would do to the towers....nothing........His opinion is demanding of respect, he built them.

Should i post his quote, when he was asked about planes impacting the towers????


Go ahead. Then someone will point out the obvious and you'll ignore it like hundreds of other truthers that have used Martini's quote.

[16.5]

"the collapse initiation was at the top instead of the point of impact."

And we ask for the 4th or 5th time in this thread:

WHAT THE HELL IS HE TALKING ABOUT!

or just go back to calling everyone who asks you a question a "slurper" you are good at that... ^^rolls eyes^^

[Hokulele]

Wow, Gage is having to dredge up signatories from last year.

Must be a slow month for new recruits...

[LashL]

Wrong...you know what he said even multiple plane impacts would do to the towers....nothing........His opinion is demanding of respect, he built them.
First of all, get your facts straight. The man's name was Frank DeMartini, not Frank Martini. He was the construction manager at the WTC in 2001, not at the time of the original construction of the towers. He did not "build them".

[Seymour Butz]

First of all, get your facts straight. The man's name was Frank DeMartini, not Frank Martini. He was the construction manager at the WTC in 2001, not at the time of the original construction of the towers. He did not "build them".

Correct.

He was hired after the'93 bombings.

[beachnut]

Wrong...you know what he said even multiple plane impacts would do to the towers....nothing........His opinion is demanding of respect, he built them.

Should i post his quote, when he was asked about planes impacting the towers????
Frank did not build the WTC. Got research?

Your new engineer has no evidence.

Frank was correct, the WTC could stop aircraft at 180 mph with an impact kinetic energy of 187 pounds of TNT. Got physics? But Frank did not build the WTC.

On 911 flt 11 and flt 175 were going 470 and 590 mph at impact and were like bombs going off. The impacts were equal in energy to 1300 and 2093 pounds of TNT. This is why the towers were doomed. If you took the time to understand the math, physics and engineering you would not be making up wild ideas about 911.

[nicepants]

So, all Engineers at AE 911 who are construction/structural Engineers are correct then.

No. (Appeal to occupation?)


Thanks, i already knew that, but i am glad you agree. You indeed have hope

As usual, you seem to have missed the point.

Electrical engineers have no authority in making claims about structural engineering issues.

Structural engineers do, but they are not correct simply because they are structural engineers.

[Seymour Butz]

It's even funnier when you examine RH's statement:

DeMartini built the towers (fail) and so his opinion matters on whether or not the towers would fall (fail). But his opinion is above reproach anyways.

But what do you think of his opinion of Robertson, who designed the buildings (yes) and had the opportunity to study after the fact (yes).

Can i win the million dollar prize if I predict that RH will say that Robertson is lying, or wrong, and/or can't be trusted?

[ozeco41]

Fine with me, all he has to do now is present his professional opinion on what he thinks is wrong with the collapse. If his work does better that AE911truth's other efforts then maybe he'll be the first from that group produce something compelling. It would be far more than anything the group as a whole has done so far. Best of luck...

Well G B it never Hertz to agree with your comments. I wonder if this newly transformed convert to truthism has the capacity to add anything to the power factor of AE911. Given the frequency that AE911 comes up with wrong inductions and are never phased by opposing polarity facts it is no surprise that the truthers here are putting up nothing but direct ad homs alternating with every current post with which members seek to rectify the truthers capacity to make revolting remarks about watts said. They should stay at ohm with their tran sisters and compose "die odes" avoiding these duel in line packages .....

OK the surge needs suppressing...... before I run to ground and trip out.

[Galileo]

Since no wiring was found at the WTC, that proves that there weren't any computers, faxes, or telephones in the WTC.

[parky76]

Since no wiring was found at the WTC, that proves that there weren't any computers, faxes, or telephones in the WTC.

another lie. they found everything at the wtc rubble site.

[ozeco41]

another lie. they found everything at the wtc rubble site.

EXCEPT "Demolition Wiring" - most of which is not "wire". :D

So 100% for intention parky.

Sorry only 99% for execution. ;)

[ozeco41]

Since no wiring was found at the WTC, that proves that there weren't any computers, faxes, or telephones in the WTC.

Certainly none that ran off typical detonation wiring of single core nonmultiplexed det cord.

..but it is an interesting idea :rolleyes: :confused:

[Galileo]

another lie. they found everything at the wtc rubble site.

wrong.

The wiring they found was used as det cord to blow the explosives.

[parky76]

im curious, as to how he KNOWS that no wiring was found, within the 300,000 tons of WTC rubble.

[parky76]

wrong.

The wiring they found was used as det cord to blow the explosives.

lolol. prove it.

this is gonna be goooooood.

:p

..on a side note, I would just like to thank all of our wonderful truther friends, for giving me good laughs over the last couple of years.

thanks a bunch guys.

[AJM8125]

ummm.....

You do know that det cord is an explosive, right? No wire there.

Just nit picking.

No worries. I wasn't exactly clear about it.

I think the point he was making is that someone who probably had a hand in figuring how much wire to run throughout the towers would be able to give a good estimate of how much det cord it would take to connect any alleged explosives.

Yes, that's what I meant. Truther fantasies often talk about the explosives being concealed within the buildings but they never offer a coherent explanation of how this could be pulled off. An electrical engineer might be able to shed some light on this.

[tsig]

JK,
Stop being a "weenie sucker"!

Just means they like hot dogs right...right...?

[Slayhamlet]

"Galileo" is a troll. He doesn't even believe the crap he spews. Ignore him.

[tsig]

Wow, Gage is having to dredge up signatories from last year.

Must be a slow month for new recruits...

It's their new strategy it's called " The Bum of the Month Club"

[tsig]

Well G B it never Hertz to agree with your comments. I wonder if this newly transformed convert to truthism has the capacity to add anything to the power factor of AE911. Given the frequency that AE911 comes up with wrong inductions and are never phased by opposing polarity facts it is no surprise that the truthers here are putting up nothing but direct ad homs alternating with every current post with which members seek to rectify the truthers capacity to make revolting remarks about watts said. They should stay at ohm with their tran sisters and compose "die odes" avoiding these duel in line packages .....

OK the surge needs suppressing...... before I run to ground and trip out.

Too late you're already blowing breakers.

[Dave Rogers]

Since no wiring was found at the WTC, that proves that there weren't any computers, faxes, or telephones in the WTC.

The wiring they found was used as det cord to blow the explosives.

Would that be the wiring that they did find, or the wiring that they didn't find? Four centuries of being dead seems to have left you a little confused.

Dave

[boloboffin]

Would that be the wiring that they did find, or the wiring that they didn't find? Four centuries of being dead seems to have left you a little confused.

Dave

He doesn't mean anything sensible by it. Galileo is putting together words in a way that he thinks will aggravate the most people here possible. After this last suspension, he doesn't even appear to be trying to make sense.

[eromitlab]

He doesn't mean anything sensible by it. Galileo is putting together words in a way that he thinks will aggravate the most people here possible. After this last suspension, he doesn't even appear to be trying to make sense.

I think Galileo might be trying to trap someone here into either denying that wiring was found in the pile (proving him "right" on the "no wiring was found at the WTC" claim) or asserting that yes, wires were found in the pile (proving him "right" that "wiring was found, therefore that somehow proves it was det wire.).
Now, where Galileo is going with strategery, who knows.

You know, someone should let demolition companies know that they can use regular phone lines and network cables to set off demolition charges. I'm sure the reels of det wire they use are a lot more expensive than reels of telecom wiring, but some unscrupulous salesperson told them that triggering demolition charges with cat 5 cable and phone lines wouldn't work in order to sell them a whole mess of expensive wire.

[A W Smith]

You know, someone should let demolition companies know that they can use regular phone lines and network cables to set off demolition charges. I'm sure the reels of det wire they use are a lot more expensive than reels of telecom wiring, but some unscrupulous salesperson told them that triggering demolition charges with cat 5 cable and phone lines wouldn't work in order to sell them a whole mess of expensive wire.

But of course! Why all you have to do is crimp rj45 jacks onto your explosives, plug them into existing network wall jacks because as we all know, the WTC towers on every single floor were just one huge subnet. and then send detonation data packets from your laptop throughout the entire building with windows messenger.!!:)

[ozeco41]

But of course! Why all you have to do is crimp rj45 jacks onto your explosives, plug them into existing network wall jacks because as we all know, the WTC towers on every single floor were just one huge subnet. and then send detonation data packets from your laptop throughout the entire building with windows messenger.!!:)

There is one weak link in your plan. The "w" word - sure it suffers from the BSOD but the name is not to be taken seriously ...oops must go


"Morning Mr Gates.......

[Klimax]

But of course! Why all you have to do is crimp rj45 jacks onto your explosives, plug them into existing network wall jacks because as we all know, the WTC towers on every single floor were just one huge subnet. and then send detonation data packets from your laptop throughout the entire building with windows messenger.!!:)

Nope,too obvious.I would say SNMP protocol would be better.

There is one weak link in your plan. The "w" word - sure it suffers from the BSOD but the name is not to be taken seriously ...oops must go


"Morning Mr Gates.......

Take care of bad drivers and you won't see BSOD for quite a long time.(I talk about months not hours!)

[Elizabeth I]

But of course! Why all you have to do is crimp rj45 jacks onto your explosives, plug them into existing network wall jacks because as we all know, the WTC towers on every single floor were just one huge subnet. and then send detonation data packets from your laptop throughout the entire building with windows messenger.!!:)

OMG...are you saying they IMed the controlled demo?

Here's my question about all the "it just didn't look right" objections: since airliners had never before been flown into mega-skyscrapers, initiating collapse, how could we possibly know what it "should" have looked like? We have no prior data.

[1337m4n]

I may be missing something, but isn't "the collapse initiation was at the top instead of the point of impact" completely, hopelessly, breathtakingly wrong?

Whoops.

Wow, that is bad.

[leftysergeant]

"the collapse initiation was at the top instead of the point of impact."

And we ask for the 4th or 5th time in this thread:

WHAT THE HELL IS HE TALKING ABOUT!


I would not count on his knowing that, either. Dude graduated in 1952. That makes him, what, about 75? 80 something?

Senile much?

[boloboffin]

I think he's talking about the antenna dropping first as observed from the north. He thinks it started up there and not at impact.

[leftysergeant]

I think he's talking about the antenna dropping first as observed from the north. He thinks it started up there and not at impact.

He would still need to be a serious dimwit to have seen the south tower starting to collapse and not look for the same thing in the north tower, so...er...

Right, then.

[Texas]

Put this is your pipe and smoke it.. (http://www.ae911truth.org/info/50)


Please use links when citing from other sources. Quote boxes are polite too, so that people can see that the words are not your own. And remember when posting material from other sites, we expect you to make some comment on it, or it may be considerred spamming.

I am also an electrical engineer about the same age as your example. That means both of us are OLD men and I can tell you that neither of us are qualified to even comment on present day Electrical Engineering much less Structural or Civil engineering matters.

[psikeyhackr]

Oh gee. An electrical engineer that has no idea of structural engineering has been fooled by the 911twoof liars. Big deal.
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Oh wow, structural engineering is so much more difficult to understand than electrical engineering.

The electrical work in the Pyramid of Giza was so easy compared to putting up that pyramid 4000 years ago. :D

psik

[leftysergeant]

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Oh wow, structural engineering is so much more difficult to understand than electrical engineering.

The electrical work in the Pyramid of Giza was so easy compared to putting up that pyramid 4000 years ago.

An understanding of one field does not always imply an understanding of another. A theologian, for example, is utterly unqualified to address arson investigations unless he has had direct, relevant training in arson investigations.

That the old doddard electrical engineer thinks that failure occurred remote from the point of impact shows that he is not even capable of assessing available evidence.

He's a loser.

[johnny karate]

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Oh wow, structural engineering is so much more difficult to understand than electrical engineering.

The difficulty in obtaining certain knowledge is irrelevant in a discussion regarding whether someone actually has this knowledge.

The electrical work in the Pyramid of Giza was so easy compared to putting up that pyramid 4000 years ago. :D

A structural engineer will be able to tell you why the pyramids are shaped the way they are, and why your implication is idiotic. Please seek one out and inquire acordingly.

[psikeyhackr]

A theologian, for example, is utterly unqualified to address arson investigations unless he has had direct, relevant training in arson investigations.
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A theologian can't figure out when to put out his hand to catch a ball because he doesn't have a PhD in physics.

You don't suppose you could find some 10 year old kids that are better at shooting pool than some people with PhDs in physics, do you.

Does pool have anything to do with physics? Maybe they shouldn't allow kids to play until they get their PhDs.

psik

[leftysergeant]

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A theologian can't figure out when to put out his hand to catch a ball because he doesn't have a PhD in physics.

Some of them can, some can't. Being smart does not mean having good motor skills.

I was thinking of that numbskull MacQueen who took DeShore's description of burning cars that cooked off as evidence opf explosive charges in the towers. What a collosal idiot!

[nicepants]

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A theologian can't figure out when to put out his hand to catch a ball because he doesn't have a PhD in physics.

Strawman argument.


You don't suppose you could find some 10 year old kids that are better at shooting pool than some people with PhDs in physics, do you.

There certainly could be, and probably are.


Does pool have anything to do with physics? Maybe they shouldn't allow kids to play until they get their PhDs.

psik

Clearly you've missed the entire point, which is that he's not an expert at structural engineering simply because he's another type of engineer.

I don't suppose you'd seek medical advice from anyone with a PHd regardless of the field?