Proof of thermo-nuclear weapon on 9-11

[Thunder]

http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm

oh..this is precious!!

this may have been discussed before, but I never saw this site.

enjoy.

[njslim]

Couple of Whack jobs over at ABOVE TOP SECRET keep posting the same crap, babbling
about 4 th generation thermo nuclear weapons.....

[INRM]

How did a nuclear weapon cause 9/11?

Wouldn't it have blown the city off the map?

[AJM8125]

How did a nuclear weapon cause 9/11?

Wouldn't it have blown the city off the map?

Not a snuke.

[JimBenArm]

It's a nano-nuke.
Made from nano-thermite.

[Pinch]

Couple of Whack jobs over at ABOVE TOP SECRET keep posting the same crap, babbling
about 4 th generation thermo nuclear weapons.....

ATS has really turned into an extension of the whack-job moonbat sect - a second home to every sock that Cap'n Bob and his merry band of extraordinary idiots have ever come up with. It makes for entertaining reading, though, that's for sure.

[BCR]

Thanks Sparky...mystery solved finally. We can all go home now :w2:

[Thunder]

How did a nuclear weapon cause 9/11?

Wouldn't it have blown the city off the map?

one square mile of NYC would have reached about 20,000 degrees fahrenheit in a split second.

[tsig]

one square mile of NYC would have reached about 20,000 degrees fahrenheit in a split second.

But nobody noticed because of gvmt programming. Sheeple!!

[Thunder]

Not to mention that even the smallest nuclear weapon every built, the Davy Crockett, would have spread enough radiation around to kill everyone within a 5 block radius.

[eromitlab]

There's some clown on reddit posting some forum spam, trying to allege much the same thing, that a missile with multiple thermonuclear warheads did the deed at the WTC... while ignoring people telling him that such a weapon would have nuked all of lower Manhattan. Same person has repeatedly posted the "WTC tourist guy" pic with the claim that not only is it real, it proves remote-controlled airplanes, as well as repeating the bigoted tripe about 4000 Jews being warned.
That's just an example of the brainpower required to believe such nonsense.

[Klimax]

I propose nano-antimatter.
Small,high-power (try arguing with E=mc^2 :D ),EM radiation only.

[AZCat]

One of my favorite 'net apps is a Google Maps "mapplet" that lets you place thermal effect radii of various atomic/nuclear weapons on your location of choice. I guarantee hours of fun!

Ground Zero mapplet (http://www.carloslabs.com/node/16)

For example, check out the "Little Boy" overlaid on Manhattan.

[tsig]

Not to mention that even the smallest nuclear weapon every built, the Davy Crockett, would have spread enough radiation around to kill everyone within a 5 block radius.

That's why the used the nuclear hand grenade. It uses nano nuke tech.

[firecoins]

How did a nuclear weapon cause 9/11?

Wouldn't it have blown the city off the map?
NY is no longer represented on Maps. We are still here just not on a map.

[Thunder]

a Davy Crockett mini-nuke would have not have destroyed much of NYC. But it would have shrouded the area in tons of deadly radiation.

Given the average half-life of plutonium or uranium, if there was any sort of nuke at the WTC, I would be dead right now.

[tsig]

a Davy Crockett mini-nuke would have not have destroyed much of NYC. But it would have shrouded the area in tons of deadly radiation.

Given the average half-life of plutonium or uranium, if there was any sort of nuke at the WTC, I would be dead right now.

What are you going to believe, the evidence of your own existence or some nut on the net?

[Sunstealer]

one square mile of NYC would have reached about 20,000 degrees fahrenheit in a split second.Gotcha! That was the cause of all the molten steel seen weeks after! Right, now that's cleared up I'm off to complete Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl.

[ElMondoHummus]

Yeah, breezed through the link. It's nothing more than Dr. Ed Ward repeating himself. We've dealt with his stuff before. Hell, he's even bringing up the old tritium argument, the same one we all commented on back in 2007 (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3078610#post3078610) and treated as a tired old argument in 2008 (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=3422609#post3422609). Ward's not even trying to modify that argument any.

Old, disproven junk. Give him environmental credit for such careful recycling :D but there's no need to take what he says seriously.

[AZCat]

Gotcha! That was the cause of all the molten steel seen weeks after! Right, now that's cleared up I'm off to complete Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl.

Enjoy it, but I'd think twice about playing the prequel, Clear Sky. It's a buggy, mangled mess.

[The Platypus]

Maybe it was a nano thermite nuke...

:D

[tsig]

Maybe it was a nano thermite nuke...

:D

See #14

[Grizzly Bear]

http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm

oh..this is precious!!

this may have been discussed before, but I never saw this site.

enjoy.

It's one of those arguments where if you enter the room... you slowly back the hell out... sanity before crazy I always say

[Sunstealer]

Enjoy it, but I'd think twice about playing the prequel, Clear Sky. It's a buggy, mangled mess.mmn, that reminds me of something, I can't think what mind you. Something to do with paint and nana's thermite.

[Hamradioguy]

One of my favorite 'net apps is a Google Maps "mapplet" that lets you place thermal effect radii of various atomic/nuclear weapons on your location of choice. I guarantee hours of fun!

Ground Zero mapplet (http://www.carloslabs.com/node/16)

For example, check out the "Little Boy" overlaid on Manhattan.

Interesting exercise, but not very accurate. It assumes flat ground with no buildings. Even with "optimum burst height" any variations in topography, weather (clear day vs cloudy, rain, etc.) and structures will radically change those damage circles. Skyscrapers in the process of being destroyed also absorb a lot of thermal, prompt ionizing radiation and blast energy. (Of course that also means a LOT of rather obvious evidence for a nuclear/thermonuclear explosion. Members of FDNY Hazmat Unit didn't find any evidence of ionizing radiation on 9/11. Unless of course someone wants to claim that "they were in on it".)

[twinstead]

Why don't our resident truthers join in threads like this?

[AZCat]

Interesting exercise, but not very accurate. It assumes flat ground with no buildings. Even with "optimum burst height" any variations in topography, weather (clear day vs cloudy, rain, etc.) and structures will radically change those damage circles. Skyscrapers in the process of being destroyed also absorb a lot of thermal, prompt ionizing radiation and blast energy. (Of course that also means a LOT of rather obvious evidence for a nuclear/thermonuclear explosion. Members of FDNY Hazmat Unit didn't find any evidence of ionizing radiation on 9/11. Unless of course someone wants to claim that "they were in on it".)

Well yes, but that's complicated. ;)

Unfortunately a more accurate simulation would require far more horsepower than the hosts of that "mapplet" would be willing to provide.

[Klimax]

Well yes, but that's complicated. ;)

Unfortunately a more accurate simulation would require far more horsepower than the hosts of that "mapplet" would be willing to provide.

It appears to be javascript,so it would require CPU power of guest and that varies a lot.(Not mentioning that JS is quite inefficient)

[AZCat]

It appears to be javascript,so it would require CPU power of guest and that varies a lot.(Not mentioning that JS is quite inefficient)

Yeah, that would be a problem. I don't think the average home (or work) computer could process the requisite calculations very quickly (and by that I mean in months or years). Even simple linearized 1-D heat transfer calculations can become very complex.

[Klimax]

Yeah, that would be a problem. I don't think the average home (or work) computer could process the requisite calculations very quickly (and by that I mean in months or years). Even simple linearized 1-D heat transfer calculations can become very complex.

And we are still assuming program is efficient and optimised.Introduce things like javascript and details and you quickly ran out of time.(and computer power see grid distributed projects and BOINC)