ReasonedFaith
25th November 2003, 01:47 PM
Ohhh this site is just about the funniest I have seen yet! You all have to check it out. Sure cure for the blues.
Note that for the "Isis Bronze medium" pendulum model of the famous "Jozef Baj" for example;
"This is a pendulum invented and constructed by one of the highly regarded experts of radiesthetic equipment, Jozef Baj of Warsaw, Poland. Its shape symbolizes the Cross of Life as known to ancient Egyptians. The four parallel disks create an amplifier, making it very sensitive and selective. Isis generates its own energy at a frequency equivalent to the colour white - the synthesis of all colours. This strong, constant radiation makes it perfect for use as a carrying wave" which can be modulated and use in teleradiesthesia. (use of radiesthetic equipment from a distance) It is very safe."
"Isis is a mental pendulum and can be used as a transmitter or receiver, according to the mental command of the operator. It can be used in checking food, herbs, in making health diagnoses and as a generator of carrying wave in work with maps and distance healing. Because of its unique properties and safety it should be considered asic and necessary pendulum of every dowser."
http://www.diviningmind.com/cadillacline.html
Note that some of her other models are even funnier. A "must read". The Osiris brass was one of my favs.
http://www.diviningmind.com/volvoline.html
Also one of the most outrageously irresponsible since healing from cancer is claimed and such. This brass dowse pendulum has to be neutralized and disassemble when not is use so it's extra strong powers won't harm healthy living tissue dontcha know
I had quite an e mail exchange with the quack whack job who sells this Dowsing equipment on the web. (His two e mails at bottom of post).
After finding his site, "Divining Mind"... Dowsing supplies, providing for all your most critical dowsing equipment needs, even "medical radiesthesia", (this must be a close relative to Neurological anesthesia, if you know what I mean), I was compelled to write him and ask about his fraud and/or why he wastes time selling these geegaws when he could just have a dowser take the challenge and split the money or whatever.
His site makes amazing claims. The first page says;
(DIVINING MIND, QUALITY DOWSNING TOOLS FOR BEGINNER OR PRO..."we offer you a large selection of quality dowsing pendulums and divining rods
from Europe, the choice of dowsing tools for discriminating water and mineral dowser, alternative healing practitioner, spiritual counselor, distant healer and others. Properly chosen tools for the task at hand will give you the edge of increased dowsing accuracy as well as the professional image.")
http://www.diviningmind.com/
http://www.diviningmind.com/cadillacline.html
I sent the proprieter of this whack job rip off site (Chris Gozdzik), scientific data and
studies on Dowsing including from the JREF site archives. He told me I should join the "Flat Earth Society", basically because I believe in science!
This was shortly after he changed the subject altogether by invoking goobledegook about "Quantum Physics"..a subject in which he no doubt holds a PhD from a top University.
In his previous e mail he said, "..If you treat seriously people like Randi - you are in BIG trouble."
He also accuses Randi of backing out of a challenge from some Dowser in India named Kirti Betai, "..but he (Randi), "sleazed his way out of the deal". I wrote Randi, Randi says he never heard of this Betai guy).
Chris says if Randi had done this in North America he would be taken to court for "forgery and false advertising". (Forgery??)
I did point out to him that if this great Dowser from India came to Florida to Dowse successfully he could have the $$ Million $$, and I am wondering why Chris didn't put up the expense money for the trip and agree to split the million with Mr. Betai? Let's see, a Million $$ minus
$5,000 or so in expenses, uh, well it's way too complicated a quantum physics problem for me but I'd guess there ought to be a few bucks profit in there somewhere.
I Don't think Chris will be bankrolling Betai's trip and test process though, or working with Betai to set something alternatively up in
India, or writing me back anymore to respond to that question for that matter. He'd rather make $10 or $15 profit apiece on coat hanger wires
and spinning geegaws, (and rocks), than get a $ Million $ bux "dirty money" dontcha know. So I guess JREF's Million $$$ remains "safe for
Sylvia" for just a little while longer. It's a great insurance policy or retirement fund for her in case she ever runs out of people to "help".
Mike L
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Chris Gozdzik e mails below.
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Chris Gozdzik wrote:
>
> Hello Mike,
>
> I see that it's rather pointless to discuss it any further - you have your mind set and
> that's it. That's a very dangerous position. If you are so well versed in scientific
> discoveries - why don't you check the latest developments in quantum physics? You
> will find that the "subtle energy" really exist and very soon the so-called "science"
will
> need to change completely.
> By the way - your hero Randi has been challenged by a fellow dowser from India,
> Kirti Betai, but he sleazed his way out of the deal. If it happened in North America -
> he would be taken to court for forgery and false advertising.
> Anyway - you better join the Flat Earth Society before it's too late!
>
> Good bye,
>
> Chris Gozdzik
************************************************** **************************************************
> > Chris Gozdzik wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Mike,
> > >
> > > If you treat seriously people like Randi - you are in BIG trouble.
> > >
> > > No other comments.
> > >
> > > Take care,
> > >
> > > Chris Gozdzik
> > >
> > > On 21 Nov 2003 at 13:36, Mike ... wrote:
> > >
> > > > Chris,
> > > >
> > > > Why waste time selling this dowsing equipment, when you could
> > > > "easily" take a $ 1 Million endowment, for any legitimate
> > > > demonstration that "dowsing" can work? I think we both know the
> > > > answer don't we??
> > > >
> > > > Mike
Note that for the "Isis Bronze medium" pendulum model of the famous "Jozef Baj" for example;
"This is a pendulum invented and constructed by one of the highly regarded experts of radiesthetic equipment, Jozef Baj of Warsaw, Poland. Its shape symbolizes the Cross of Life as known to ancient Egyptians. The four parallel disks create an amplifier, making it very sensitive and selective. Isis generates its own energy at a frequency equivalent to the colour white - the synthesis of all colours. This strong, constant radiation makes it perfect for use as a carrying wave" which can be modulated and use in teleradiesthesia. (use of radiesthetic equipment from a distance) It is very safe."
"Isis is a mental pendulum and can be used as a transmitter or receiver, according to the mental command of the operator. It can be used in checking food, herbs, in making health diagnoses and as a generator of carrying wave in work with maps and distance healing. Because of its unique properties and safety it should be considered asic and necessary pendulum of every dowser."
http://www.diviningmind.com/cadillacline.html
Note that some of her other models are even funnier. A "must read". The Osiris brass was one of my favs.
http://www.diviningmind.com/volvoline.html
Also one of the most outrageously irresponsible since healing from cancer is claimed and such. This brass dowse pendulum has to be neutralized and disassemble when not is use so it's extra strong powers won't harm healthy living tissue dontcha know
I had quite an e mail exchange with the quack whack job who sells this Dowsing equipment on the web. (His two e mails at bottom of post).
After finding his site, "Divining Mind"... Dowsing supplies, providing for all your most critical dowsing equipment needs, even "medical radiesthesia", (this must be a close relative to Neurological anesthesia, if you know what I mean), I was compelled to write him and ask about his fraud and/or why he wastes time selling these geegaws when he could just have a dowser take the challenge and split the money or whatever.
His site makes amazing claims. The first page says;
(DIVINING MIND, QUALITY DOWSNING TOOLS FOR BEGINNER OR PRO..."we offer you a large selection of quality dowsing pendulums and divining rods
from Europe, the choice of dowsing tools for discriminating water and mineral dowser, alternative healing practitioner, spiritual counselor, distant healer and others. Properly chosen tools for the task at hand will give you the edge of increased dowsing accuracy as well as the professional image.")
http://www.diviningmind.com/
http://www.diviningmind.com/cadillacline.html
I sent the proprieter of this whack job rip off site (Chris Gozdzik), scientific data and
studies on Dowsing including from the JREF site archives. He told me I should join the "Flat Earth Society", basically because I believe in science!
This was shortly after he changed the subject altogether by invoking goobledegook about "Quantum Physics"..a subject in which he no doubt holds a PhD from a top University.
In his previous e mail he said, "..If you treat seriously people like Randi - you are in BIG trouble."
He also accuses Randi of backing out of a challenge from some Dowser in India named Kirti Betai, "..but he (Randi), "sleazed his way out of the deal". I wrote Randi, Randi says he never heard of this Betai guy).
Chris says if Randi had done this in North America he would be taken to court for "forgery and false advertising". (Forgery??)
I did point out to him that if this great Dowser from India came to Florida to Dowse successfully he could have the $$ Million $$, and I am wondering why Chris didn't put up the expense money for the trip and agree to split the million with Mr. Betai? Let's see, a Million $$ minus
$5,000 or so in expenses, uh, well it's way too complicated a quantum physics problem for me but I'd guess there ought to be a few bucks profit in there somewhere.
I Don't think Chris will be bankrolling Betai's trip and test process though, or working with Betai to set something alternatively up in
India, or writing me back anymore to respond to that question for that matter. He'd rather make $10 or $15 profit apiece on coat hanger wires
and spinning geegaws, (and rocks), than get a $ Million $ bux "dirty money" dontcha know. So I guess JREF's Million $$$ remains "safe for
Sylvia" for just a little while longer. It's a great insurance policy or retirement fund for her in case she ever runs out of people to "help".
Mike L
************************************************** *************************************************
Chris Gozdzik e mails below.
************************************************** *************************************************
Chris Gozdzik wrote:
>
> Hello Mike,
>
> I see that it's rather pointless to discuss it any further - you have your mind set and
> that's it. That's a very dangerous position. If you are so well versed in scientific
> discoveries - why don't you check the latest developments in quantum physics? You
> will find that the "subtle energy" really exist and very soon the so-called "science"
will
> need to change completely.
> By the way - your hero Randi has been challenged by a fellow dowser from India,
> Kirti Betai, but he sleazed his way out of the deal. If it happened in North America -
> he would be taken to court for forgery and false advertising.
> Anyway - you better join the Flat Earth Society before it's too late!
>
> Good bye,
>
> Chris Gozdzik
************************************************** **************************************************
> > Chris Gozdzik wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Mike,
> > >
> > > If you treat seriously people like Randi - you are in BIG trouble.
> > >
> > > No other comments.
> > >
> > > Take care,
> > >
> > > Chris Gozdzik
> > >
> > > On 21 Nov 2003 at 13:36, Mike ... wrote:
> > >
> > > > Chris,
> > > >
> > > > Why waste time selling this dowsing equipment, when you could
> > > > "easily" take a $ 1 Million endowment, for any legitimate
> > > > demonstration that "dowsing" can work? I think we both know the
> > > > answer don't we??
> > > >
> > > > Mike