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bpesta22
4th May 2009, 09:49 AM
Greetings

Does anyone know of a fairly recent citation that's semi academic (i.e., not a web site, but a book or journal article) that makes the argument that one cannot be moral unless one believes in god?

TIA
Hokulele
4th May 2009, 04:28 PM
This is going to sound snarky, but I really am serious. You may want to ask Stone Island.
UndercoverElephant
4th May 2009, 04:29 PM
Greetings

Does anyone know of a fairly recent citation that's semi academic (i.e., not a web site, but a book or journal article) that makes the argument that one cannot be moral unless one believes in god?

TIA

I can point you to an argument that one cannot be moral unless one believe we have free will, but that's not quite what you asked.
bpesta22
4th May 2009, 04:45 PM
UE, thanks, but I don't think I could use the free will thing. Hok, thanks, but I honestly don't know who stone island is?!
Hokulele
4th May 2009, 05:37 PM
UE, thanks, but I don't think I could use the free will thing. Hok, thanks, but I honestly don't know who stone island is?!


He is a poster here who has often argued for a connection between morality and belief in God (specifically the Christian version) and almost every post is a link to some article, book, what have you. You can take a look at one of his other threads and maybe try a PM.
Foster Zygote
4th May 2009, 07:31 PM
This is going to sound snarky, but I really am serious. You may want to ask Stone Island.

I read the thread title and thought "Stone Island". Then I saw that you'd replied last and I thought "I'll bet she beat me to it".
bpesta22
5th May 2009, 08:45 AM
Thanks, I will pm him!
INRM
5th May 2009, 07:44 PM
Why should we give you ammunition to use against athiests to claim that all atheists are amoral?
Foster Zygote
5th May 2009, 08:13 PM
Why should we give you ammunition to use against athiests to claim that all atheists are amoral?

You're kidding, right?
ImaginalDisc
5th May 2009, 10:05 PM
What, you don't have a phone book? Call a few houses of worship and ask the assorted shamans whether or not someone needs to believe in their god, or at least a god, to be moral. I'm sure some will say no, but I doubt you'll wear your fingers out before you collect many quotes affirming that position.