explosives in WTC 1, 2 & 7

[firecoins]

can someone please show me pictures of the bombs placed inside the WTC buildings?

Who put them there?

How is it this group went unnoticed?

The PAPD often checked for explosives with bomb smelling dogs. How did these bombs get past them?

when the bombs were put there?

why did the general public who worked inside the WTC complex never see them?

[Thunder]

The PAPD often checked for explosives with bomb smelling dogs. How did these bombs get past them?

the dogs were "in on it"

:D

[FineWine]

can someone please show me pictures of the bombs placed inside the WTC buildings?

Who put them there?

How is it this group went unnoticed?

The PAPD often checked for explosives with bomb smelling dogs. How did these bombs get past them?

when the bombs were put there?

why did the general public who worked inside the WTC complex never see them?


This is easy. The explosives were invisible as well as soundless. They were placed by teams of demolition workers who swore everyone who worked in the buildings to secrecy. A few people refused to go along with the scheme so, by the oddest coincidence, they were the ones who were killed on 9/11. Don't you know anything?

[firecoins]

Don't you know anything?
According to Steven Jones, No I do not.

[Edx]

Invisibility cloak (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7553061.stm)

[FineWine]

According to Steven Jones, No I do not.


And Jones is an expert. ;)

[Ozric]

The PAPD often checked for explosives with bomb smelling dogs.

Do you have any more information on this?

(Sorry- I'm a 9/11 n00b :)).

[Dog Town]

Do you have any more information on this?

(Sorry- I'm a 9/11 n00b :)).

From:
http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_bomb_sniffing_dogs.html
Police K9 Sirius... ...was an Explosive Detection Dog with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey Police Department. Sirius, along with his partner, Police Officer David Lim, were assigned to the World Trade Center in New York, where their primary duty was to check vehicles entering the Complex, clear unattended bags and sweep areas for VIP safety...
On the morning of September 11, 2001, Sirius and Officer Lim were at their Station located in the basement of Tower Two...
http://www.novareinna.com/bridge/sirius.html

[GwionX]

The dogs were paid not to bark.

It is mindblowing how deep this rabbit hole goes.

[beachnut]

Dr (super-Thermite) Jones said the just entered with sack of explosives. At night. With the lights off. Late. They were fused with radio controls so they would fail due to building interference.

here it is pictures of bombs in the WTC!!!!
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/bombCeilingTiles.jpg

But a guy who looks like he is a meth quality control worker said it was a layer of thermite ... it gets "better" ...
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/blasting_scenario.html

If you laugh please send 10 dollars to my paypal account for research charges.




(Some WTC businesses had their own security to check things out!)
Rescorla was head of security for the company and directed the evacuation in which he had long drilled them. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2005/09/011472.php

[oldhat]

I do not agree with your versions of the Truth, ergo you are all paid disinfo agents.

The Port Authority planted the soundless, odorless explosives within the walls at the time the WTC was built. Then, several decades later, when the time was right BOOM! NWO, fascist Amerika.

Back and to the left.

[beachnut]

I do not agree with your versions of the Truth, ergo you are all paid disinfo agents.

The Port Authority planted the soundless, odorless explosives within the walls at the time the WTC was built. Then, several decades later, when the time was right BOOM! NWO, fascist Amerika.

Back and to the left.
That is 911Truth; you nailed that

[firecoins]

This specific topic has frustrated me with the truth movement. They want to claim explosives were used in at least WTC 7 if not WTC 1 & 2 as well. They insist on how the buildings collpased were impossible. But its impossible to have rigged the building for collapse without the tenants noticing this was going on.

The WTC 1 & 2 were open 24 hours. Cantor Fitzgerald lost the most employees on 9/11. Is that correct? There office was trading bonds on the European markets. Many employees arrived the night before in order to do this since European markets are open 8 hours prior to US markets.

[FineWine]

The dogs were paid not to bark.

It is mindblowing how deep this rabbit hole goes.


They weren't real dogs. They were shills dressed as dogs.

[gambling_cruiser]

The NWO used sheep disguised as dogs, sheep don't know explosives and can't bark.
It's TRUE!!!

[FineWine]

The NWO used sheep disguised as dogs, sheep don't know explosives and can't bark.
It's TRUE!!!

They weren't sheep. They were sheeple. Sheeple shills. One of them was named Shirley. She used to shell sea shells by the sea shore, after her shipwreck.

[JimBenArm]

I do not agree with your versions of the Truth, ergo you are all paid disinfo agents.

The Port Authority planted the soundless, odorless explosives within the walls at the time the WTC was built. Then, several decades later, when the time was right BOOM! NWO, fascist Amerika.

Back and to the left.
Obviously you are misinformed.

The explosives were C-4, which was made into a coating that was placed on the rebar in the entire building.

This rebar was 3" in size, and placed at 4' centers.

This was only shown in a special one time, on PBS, in the 70's. All copies of the video were subsequently gathered and destroyed, and all memories of it erased except for that of one intrepid investigator who doggedly pushed the truth here for months before having his voice forever silenced. At least here.

The realistice of it all!

[T.A.M.]

can someone please show me pictures of the bombs placed inside the WTC buildings?

The bombs were covered by the steel columns, walling, aluminum, etc...

Who put them there?

Ebil Navy Seals and Jack Bauer.


How is it this group went unnoticed?

Dressed up in Painter and Janitor suits and did it night time, and with the power downs, doncha know.


The PAPD often checked for explosives with bomb smelling dogs. How did these bombs get past them?

Amazing supernanothermite as fuses, and hermeticly sealed bomb casings.


when the bombs were put there?

during da power downs and when ever traffic in the towers was light.


why did the general public who worked inside the WTC complex never see them?

dumb sheeple, dontcha know.

TAM:)

[Edx]

Someone in another fourm says :

"could swear that I've heard about each entire floor (weeks prior to 9/11) being emptied for some kind of safety check (or routine, that wasn't routine), which had never happened before in the history of those towers. I believe it was an employee of the WTC that made such a statement."

I remember hearing that guy in a truther video. I think they misrepresented him though. Anyone remember specifically?

EDIT: is it this? He doenst say "power downs" though he says "emptied". wtf?
http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_power_down.html

[T.A.M.]

EdX:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=3089122

Found via Gravy's weblinks.

TAM:)

[Edx]

Thanks! When he says he thinks he heard about each floor being "emptied" that is nonsence right?

[johnny karate]

can someone please show me pictures of the bombs placed inside the WTC buildings?

Who put them there?

How is it this group went unnoticed?

According to some (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4640901&postcount=2555), Turner Construction prepped the towers for a controlled demolition under the guise of performing renovations.

Despite the fact that Turner Construction is not in the controlled demolition industry and lacks any particular knowledge or expertise in that field. :rolleyes:

[firecoins]

According to some (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4640901&postcount=2555), Turner Construction prepped the towers for a controlled demolition under the guise of performing renovations.

Despite the fact that Turner Construction is not in the controlled demolition industry and lacks any particular knowledge or expertise in that field. :rolleyes:

How did the dogs not smell the explosives they were brining in?

Did Turner Construction have access to all necessary suites?

Why have tenants of those suites not comefoward with odd stories of unnecessary renovations?

How long timewise were these renovations?

[Homeland Insurgency]

I don't know if bombs were placed in the towers.

You don't know that none were.

But there were plenty of people who could have if they wanted to.

Kroll.

[tuc0]

I don't know if bombs were placed in the towers.

You don't know that none were.

But there were plenty of people who could have if they wanted to.

Kroll.


Name three.

[johnny karate]

How did the dogs not smell the explosives they were brining in?

Did Turner Construction have access to all necessary suites?

Why have tenants of those suites not comefoward with odd stories of unnecessary renovations?

How long timewise were these renovations?

All reasonable questions unfortunately beyond the grasp of those addled with the cognitive dissonance required to believe something as stupid as a controlled demolition masterminded by a reputable construction firm.

[alexi_drago]

... it gets "better" ...
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/thermite/blasting_scenario.html

If you laugh please send 10 dollars to my paypal account for research charges.


Only $10 for a laugh like that?

Jim's after a job in the movies I think, writing the next Die Hard or Mission Impossible but I doubt he'll get anywhere since they'll probably be looking for something a bit more plausible than what he's come up with there.

[MikeW]

can someone please show me pictures of the bombs placed inside the WTC buildings?
Maybe truthers should start with a motive for planting them at all. Right now that's something of a problem, which is why they have to make them up (insurance fraud, they had to come down because they were "asbestos-ridden white elephants" etc).

[FineWine]

I don't know if bombs were placed in the towers.

You don't know that none were.

But there were plenty of people who could have if they wanted to.

Kroll.


Yes, I know that there were no bombs. I respect the opinions of people who work in the demolition industry. The total absence of any evidence of bombs is something your politics forces you to ignore, but my critical thinking skills won't allow me to ignore.

[BenBurch]

I am 100% certain there were no bombs. Or thermite. Or space beams. Or H-bombs.

Not 99.9999%. 100%

What happened excluded those causes.

I considered offering a sizable wager on this to you truthers, but I know;

1. None of you are honest enough to pay off if you lost.

2. None of you have any money anyway.

[T.A.M.]

Here is what I know;

You cannot "prove a negative" so no, we cannot prove that explosives WERE NOT used.

There is NO EVIDENCE pointing towards the use of conventional explosives in the WTC collapses on 9/11.

So in light of the two things above, in SANE LAND, we like to say that there is no evidence for CD. As well, given we have a plethora of evidence (for WTC1/2, 7 is a different matter) that there were (A) plane impacts, (B) Large fires in the buildings, as well as an exhaustive scientific investigation (by NIST) that concluded the buildings collapsed from said impacts and fires, I am gonna go out on a limb here ;), and say that the buildings came down because the terrorists flew the planes into them.

TAM:)

[HeyLeroy]

Obviously you are misinformed.

The explosives were C-4, which was made into a coating that was placed on the rebar in the entire building.

This rebar was 3" in size, and placed at 4' centers.

This was only shown in a special one time, on PBS, in the 70's. All copies of the video were subsequently gathered and destroyed, and all memories of it erased except for that of one intrepid investigator who doggedly pushed the truth here for months before having his voice forever silenced. At least here.

The realistice of it all!


I'd easily pay $20 for this laugh; unfortunately, it's $20 Canadian.

[firecoins]

You don't know that none were.

But there were plenty of people who could have if they wanted to.

Kroll.
I was in the WTC in February and March of 2001. 99.9999999% could not bring bombs into the building if they wanted to. Nor would they have access to where such weapons would need to be placed.

There is a complete lack of evidence of any explosives in the any building attacked on 9/11. Simplest explaiantion is becasue there wern't any.

[1337m4n]

we cannot prove that explosives WERE NOT used.

Oh, but I think we can. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=121182)

[Edx]

The idea that each floor of the WTC was "emptied" that is nonsence right?

[BenBurch]

The idea that each floor of the WTC was "emptied" that is nonsence right?

Yes.

[Edx]

Yes.

I wonder where they come up with these things. It must be like chinese whispers.

[Gavron]

what is this about Chinese whiskers? ;)

[firecoins]

someone who can talk to the Chinese much like a horsewhisperer. :D

[Ozric]

How did the dogs not smell the explosives they were brining in?

Ok, this one should be fairly obvious.


Explosives utilized in detection training of our bomb dogs include dynamite, plastic explosives, TNT, detonation cord, ammonium nitrate, Flex-X, Slurry Gel and smokeless powder.


I don't know any truthers who believe these explosives were used.

Would the dogs be trained to detect nanothermites?

Of course not.

[Arus808]

nanothermites? please the earliest record of such was in 2004. 3 years after 911. and its only "experimental" no conventional use for such an ineffective incindieary

and by the way, the idiot who proposed the use of Nanotermite is retracting his claim and saying that it ws used AS FUSES for the REAL explosives.

[Galileo]

can someone please show me pictures of the bombs placed inside the WTC buildings?

Who put them there?

How is it this group went unnoticed?

The PAPD often checked for explosives with bomb smelling dogs. How did these bombs get past them?

when the bombs were put there?

why did the general public who worked inside the WTC complex never see them?

I agree, bin Laden and Atta could not have snuck them in. 9/11 was an inside job.

[Edx]

nanothermites? please the earliest record of such was in 2004. 3 years after 911. and its only "experimental" no conventional use for such an ineffective incindieary

and by the way, the idiot who proposed the use of Nanotermite is retracting his claim and saying that it ws used AS FUSES for the REAL explosives.

Well thats easy for them to deny. All they have to do is say that the government devloped its own black ops version decades ago.

[BigAl]

According to some (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4640901&postcount=2555), Turner Construction prepped the towers for a controlled demolition under the guise of performing renovations.

Despite the fact that Turner Construction is not in the controlled demolition industry and lacks any particular knowledge or expertise in that field. :rolleyes:

"Turner Construction" doesn't do any actual work, they use the same crew of union craftspeople that they use for all their projects at WTC and everywhere else. Nobody works on a job that isn't in the right union and the union folks get really touchy when strangers show up and try to pass as union workers.

They tend to wear and wave American flags a lot and I'd love to see a Twoofer tell them that any of their union brothers were part of the "inside job". I've been involved from the client side with union labor on a couple large Manhattan gut renovations projects. I have a lot of respect for them.

[T.A.M.]

Well thats easy for them to deny. All they have to do is say that the government devloped its own black ops version decades ago.

exactly.

When you have as the bad guy, this super powerful, holder of all knowledge, villain, you merely have to adjust as you go.

No evidence it existed then - of course, they kept it as a govt/military secret.

No evidence it could be done - well of course not, to allow the average man that knowledge would be dangerous, so they have kept it to themselves.

Photos of plane parts - faked.
DNA samples from bodies - faked
Phone calls from passengers - faked.

And so it goes. Once again, I will restate, it is useless to argue with people who in 2009 still believe 9/11 was an inside job. They will call all evidence against them fake/planted, and will change the story/plot/plan based on what works and what doesn't.

TAM:)

[firecoins]

I agree, bin Laden and Atta could not have snuck them in. 9/11 was an inside job.
In every thread you post with this claim, you have not shown any evidence of explosives existed at all much less who was behind such explosives.

If Bush/Jews/Freemasons/Rockelfellers were plotting an inside job, would hijacking 4 planes and crashing them into buildings not be enough? There was nothing added by the collapse of #7 at all. And anyone who could set up such an inside job would not need to eliminate evidence from building 7 cause no one would have been looking for any there.

[UNLoVedRebel]

Explosives utilized in detection training of our bomb dogs include dynamite, plastic explosives, TNT, detonation cord, ammonium nitrate, Flex-X, Slurry Gel and smokeless powder.
I don't know any truthers who believe these explosives were used.

Would the dogs be trained to detect nanothermites?


Of course not
Damn, I'm too late to stundie this. So what TLB said was the usual "it was a controlled demolition" and he also said nothing used in a controlled demolition was used in a controlled demolition.

May not have won but it would've been competitive.

[firecoins]

yes. No explosives were used in the WTC collpase. At least we are agreed on that. I was thinking the controlled demolitions was caused by a large commercial jet crashing into the buildings and the ensueing fires. but we all know that didn't happen. :rolleyes:

[HeyLeroy]

can someone please show me pictures of the bombs placed inside the WTC buildings?



http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/619745a581c46ea10.jpg

[HeyLeroy]

I don't know if bombs were placed in the towers.

You don't know that none were.

But there were plenty of people who could have if they wanted to.

Kroll.

Correct; we don't know that there weren't any bombs in the towers. But by all available evidence we can be sure that, if there were bombs in the towers, they certainly weren't detonated that day.

[Sam.I.Am]

You cannot "prove a negative" so no, we cannot prove that explosives WERE NOT used.



Sure you can. Explosives tend to not play well with heat and shock. Given that the airplanes hitting the towers provided plenty of shock and then burned for at least 45 minutes I think that it's safe to say that that's substantial proof that there were no explosives. They would've either gone off at the time of impact (shock) or they would've "Cooked Off" soon after impact (heat). Anything stable enough to withstand both, by necessity, must have an exploding mechanism (detonator) with a burster and a booster in which case those would've been even more susceptible to heat and shock.

So, unless you want to claim that there were people running around carrying detonators in the middle of a raging inferno (highly not recommended :D) with a ton of debris blocking their way and then placing them in explosives that nobody saw, I would say that is proof that there were no explosives in the buildings.

[firecoins]

So we had a fake story about 12 fake firefighters setting up a CD 45 minutes before the 1st plane crash.

Any other stories.