Proof of alien spacecraft visitation website

[BTox]

Must read the commentary for each pic... ;)

alien website (http://www.bentsoup.com/ufopics.html)

[SFB]

From the home site http://www.bentsoup.com/ufo.html :

"We have had more than enough of these space aliens. If coming down to Earth and filling silos full of piss is their idea of fun then I suggest their planet needs a few moral adjustments. We at the AAA plan to send a satellite into space next year as a warning to these aliens. On board will be messages of abuse from angry farmers, such as cursing etc., drawings of angry people looking at dead cattle and a bill for the damage. Hopefully they may also find enlightenment as we will be including a few verses from the Bible and the music of the Stereo MC's.

We are also looking for people who may be willing to travel into space on a search for the aliens home planet. If so, we need people with large bladders who would be willing to piss on their crops and also one vacancy still exists for a man required to bugger cows, although my neighbor George says he is willing to take on all the cattle they have single handedly. We need a large amount of money, up to 2 billion pounds, to fund this project and also some coloured pencils so we can draw the pictures of the angry farmers. Please if you can help then email us at aaa@bentsoup.com and the fight back can begin."
[Bold mine]

Kookie? It's about as far out-there that I've seen on the Internet!

[MRC_Hans]

Another joke site.

Hans

[joyrex]

This one (http://www.theprojectatearth.com/) probably isn't :eek:This is Jaan, by council title. His presence is easily distinguished from others' by his strong telepathic effects. At three feet tall, his size and delicate manner are especially appealing to young children. Because of this, Jaan and his accompaniment are often the first to introduce alien life to affilitated human children.Jacko must be one of them!

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by BTox
Must read the commentary for each pic... ;)

alien website (http://www.bentsoup.com/ufopics.html)

:D

:dl:

[joyrex]

http://oreverb.hypermart.net/img/es.jpg

It is confirmed now ... I'm psychic. (See my earlier post, the quote was from her website) :o

Certain is that we'll have good conversations with her in the near future, I'm sure. ;)

[EarthSister]

Good evening, Everyone. Thank you, joyrex.

I followed the path of a bunch of hits to my web counter and found you guys.

I am a teacher in the ufo field. I teach about the aliens. Yes, they are real. But most of what you hear about them is not.

Everything I know and teach about the alien races, I learn from the aliens themselves. They are awesome, to say the least.

I will just look around for a while. Thank you to everyone who visited my site!

[WildCat]

Originally posted by EarthSister
Good evening, Everyone. Thank you, joyrex.

I followed the path of a bunch of hits to my web counter and found you guys.

I am a teacher in the ufo field. I teach about the aliens. Yes, they are real. But most of what you hear about them is not.

Everything I know and teach about the alien races, I learn from the aliens themselves. They are awesome, to say the least.

I will just look around for a while. Thank you to everyone who visited my site!
:jaw:

Now this is gonna be good! Better than Muscleman even.

[Paladin]

Originally posted by EarthSister
Good evening, Everyone. Thank you, joyrex.

I followed the path of a bunch of hits to my web counter and found you guys.

I am a teacher in the ufo field. I teach about the aliens. Yes, they are real. But most of what you hear about them is not.

Everything I know and teach about the alien races, I learn from the aliens themselves. They are awesome, to say the least.

I will just look around for a while. Thank you to everyone who visited my site!
Real, in the physical sense? Or are they composed of trans-dimensional energy? I can't help but wonder how they can station their ships nearby without being detected.

[EarthSister]

>>Real, in the physical sense? Or are they composed of trans-dimensional energy? I can't help but wonder how they can station their ships nearby without being detected.<<

Ohrryp

Yes, real in the physical sense. They are as alive and physical as we are. They are people, just different race to race. Our biologies all fit our own worlds and atmospheres we have evolved with.

Advanced races use other dimensions by technologies to travel and conceal themselves while here except for when they want us to see them. They have always been visiting Earth.

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by EarthSister
Good evening, Everyone. Thank you, joyrex.

I followed the path of a bunch of hits to my web counter and found you guys.

I am a teacher in the ufo field. I teach about the aliens. Yes, they are real. But most of what you hear about them is not.

Everything I know and teach about the alien races, I learn from the aliens themselves. They are awesome, to say the least.

I will just look around for a while. Thank you to everyone who visited my site!

could you perhaps invite an alien to join this forum and post? i'm sure we would all just LOVE to talk to an alien.

p.s. we aren't interested in illegal aliens. "Right right...someone said aliens, she thought they said illegal aliens and signed up " - PFC. Hudson

[EarthSister]

>>could you perhaps invite an alien to join this forum and post? i'm sure we would all just LOVE to talk to an alien.<<

EdipisReks

No, they do not communicate with humans that way. If anybody tells you they do, they are at least mistaken. If anybody claims to be an alien being posting over the Internet, they are lying.

[Paladin]

Originally posted by EarthSister
>>Real, in the physical sense? Or are they composed of trans-dimensional energy? I can't help but wonder how they can station their ships nearby without being detected.<<

Ohrryp

Yes, real in the physical sense. They are as alive and physical as we are. They are people, just different race to race. Our biologies all fit our own worlds and atmospheres we have evolved with.

Advanced races use other dimensions by technologies to travel and conceal themselves while here except for when they want us to see them. They have always been visiting Earth.
Yes, yes...Sarfatti (http://www.stardrive.org/) is making some progress toward dimensional travel, but seems to be bogged down in the mathematics. One particular problem involves energy differentials. Basically, producing an effect such as concealment would require an awful lot of energy -- presuming that the systems operate according to local laws of physics.

Intriguing, that they've been visiting for so long. Have they involved themselves with governments, or are they primarily here as observers?

[thaiboxerken]

I followed the path of a bunch of hits to my web counter and found you guys.

Good, maybe we can pull you out of your delusions now. I doubt it though.

I am a teacher in the ufo field. I teach about the aliens. Yes, they are real. But most of what you hear about them is not.

Yes, there are many aliens in the USA from Mexicans to Japanese. Extra-terrestials, however, are not evident and thus not real.

Everything I know and teach about the alien races, I learn from the aliens themselves.

I highly doubt that you have communicated with extra-terrestials. Until you produce evidence of an alien to scientists and media, I will conclude that you are either delusional or a storyteller. Didn't your mom tell you that fibbing is wrong?

[EarthSister]

>>Yes, yes...Sarfatti is making some progress toward dimensional travel, but seems to be bogged down in the mathematics. One particular problem involves energy differentials. Basically, producing an effect such as concealment would require an awful lot of energy -- presuming that the systems operate according to local laws of physics.

Intriguing, that they've been visiting for so long. Have they involved themselves with governments, or are they primarily here as observers?<<

Ohrryp

The differentials dimension to dimension is the value of time. Advanced races use advanced methods of energies, so we can't use our own to project the actions of thiers. Human physics are too incomplete to project everything our visiting races can do also.

They are here as observers and much more. They have always interacted with individual humans, and a few of them have had some runins with some of our govts. The visiting races want to build a diplomatic relationship with our world, and have offered their assistance to some of our leading govts, but so far our govts decline. But that will change.

The alien races do not work directly with our govts, rather they treat our humanity as a whole.

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by EarthSister
>>Yes, yes...Sarfatti is making some progress toward dimensional travel, but seems to be bogged down in the mathematics. One particular problem involves energy differentials. Basically, producing an effect such as concealment would require an awful lot of energy -- presuming that the systems operate according to local laws of physics.

Intriguing, that they've been visiting for so long. Have they involved themselves with governments, or are they primarily here as observers?<<

Ohrryp

The differentials dimension to dimension is the value of time. Advanced races use advanced methods of energies, so we can't use our own to project the actions of thiers. Human physics are too incomplete to project everything our visiting races can do also.

They are here as observers and much more. They have always interacted with individual humans, and a few of them have had some runins with some of our govts. The visiting races want to build a diplomatic relationship with our world, and have offered their assistance to some of our leading govts, but so far our govts decline. But that will change.

The alien races do not work directly with our govts, rather they treat our humanity as a whole.

do you perhaps have anything to give in the way of evidence to any of this? if not then, i have no choice but to quote Ellen Ripley. "Bullsh*t".

[thaiboxerken]

I suggest you visit your local shrink and tell him all about the aliens. I'm sure he would be very interested in your tales.

It's one thing to enjoy the movie "MIB", but to actually think it's true is not right.

[EarthSister]

thaiboxerken

I am completely honest, morally and mentally sound. I have had these experiences all my life. I take enough crap, trust me. And if I am going to be attacked and flamed, tell me right now and I will leave.

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by EarthSister
thaiboxerken

I am completely honest, morally and mentally sound. I have had these experiences all my life. I take enough crap, trust me. And if I am going to be attacked and flamed, tell me right now and I will leave.

if you aren't going to produce any evidence then i suggest that you leave.

[thaiboxerken]

I am completely honest, morally and mentally sound.

No, you are either telling lies or delusional.

I have had these experiences all my life. I take enough crap, trust me. And if I am going to be attacked and flamed, tell me right now and I will leave.

Wait, you haven't heard about the million dollars you can get for simply asking one of your alien buddies to show himself to James Randi. ONE MILLION DOLLARS!! It's all yours to claim.

[thaiboxerken]

Originally posted by EdipisReks


if you aren't going to produce any evidence then i suggest that you leave.

I predict that she will offer none, then call us closed-minded and leave in a huff.

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken


I predict that she will offer none, then call us closed-minded and leave in a huff.

oh, i'm sure. i just want to give her a sporting chance. come on, EarthSister, give us something!

[Paladin]

Originally posted by EarthSister
thaiboxerken

I am completely honest, morally and mentally sound. I have had these experiences all my life. I take enough crap, trust me. And if I am going to be attacked and flamed, tell me right now and I will leave.
Unfortunately, that is likely to be the case. :(

[EarthSister]

>>oh, i'm sure. i just want to give her a sporting chance. come on, EarthSister, give us something!<<

Sorry, can't help ya. I've been through it enough and it's an ass kickin' stinkin' waste of my time. This is no place for anybody to learn anything right, it's just a flame war. Good luck.

[WildCat]

Originally posted by EdipisReks
if you aren't going to produce any evidence then i suggest that you leave.
No no no!! This is just getting started, my popcorn isn't even done popping yet. Please stay, pretty please?

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by EarthSister
>>oh, i'm sure. i just want to give her a sporting chance. come on, EarthSister, give us something!<<

Sorry, can't help ya. I've been through it enough and it's an ass kickin' stinkin' waste of my time. This is no place for anybody to learn anything right, it's just a flame war. Good luck.

if you don't mind me asking, why do you even bother then? if you have no evidence, then why believe it? i like Cthulhu an awful lot, but i don't have any evidence that he exists, and thus i don't believe it is him when the voice in my head tells me to devour people.

[thaiboxerken]

Originally posted by EarthSister
>>oh, i'm sure. i just want to give her a sporting chance. come on, EarthSister, give us something!<<

Sorry, can't help ya. I've been through it enough and it's an ass kickin' stinkin' waste of my time. This is no place for anybody to learn anything right, it's just a flame war. Good luck.

Yet another believer that passes up ONE MILLION DOLLARS. Just think of all of the good things she could've done with that money. I guess she really doesn't care enough about people to claim this money and help out.

Go find a therapist, you freaking nutball!

[thaiboxerken]

I find it funny that she has a whole page on her website devoted to understanding why people lie. LOL.

[WildCat]

You guys could have humored her just a little bit. Party poopers. :(

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by WildCat
You guys could have humored her just a little bit. Party poopers. :(

hey, i tried.

[Wolverine]

Originally posted by Yahweh


:D

:dl:

I'll see your :dl: and raise you a :big:

Too funny. :D

[tracer]

Darn it, I didn't get to ask EarthSister how the aliens communicated with her.

(And if her answer was "telepathy," how she knew that it was aliens communicating with her telepathically and not, say, Jesus, or hallucinated voices in her own head, or a bunch of pranksters that had gotten ahold of a telepathy broadcasting machine and were only telling her that they were aliens, or something.)

[Jeff Corey]

Originally posted by BTox
Must read the commentary for each pic... ;)

alien website (http://www.bentsoup.com/ufopics.html)

Also, on their main page, you can contact Lucas Gadd at the Anti Alien Alliance to volunteer to fight those buggers.

[EarthSister]

>>Darn it, I didn't get to ask EarthSister how the aliens communicated with her.

(And if her answer was "telepathy," how she knew that it was aliens communicating with her telepathically and not, say, Jesus, or hallucinated voices in her own head, or a bunch of pranksters that had gotten ahold of a telepathy broadcasting machine and were only telling her that they were aliens, or something.)<<

tracer

We communicate both vocally and by telepathy. I know who is talking to me by the sound and sensation of their "voice" once I get to know them. If they are with me and I see them and they are looking at me and I hear them telepathically and I answer them back telepathically etc., there can be no confusion. After that, I just recognize them or I ask them who they are and they tell me.

Most races of people cannot prounounce each other's language sounds, and telepathy is much easier and more exact anyway.

Telepathy is just like prayer the way it is done, except that it's just common conversation between people. Prayers are only directed to God in the way of your own holy or divine beliefs.

My imagination is very familiar to me and does not come in from the outside in somebody else's voice. Although some of my alien friends' telepathy is more subtle than some others', if I get it wrong they repeat it for me.

If I was hallucinating any of this, my husband would not hear the same thing at the same time.

In all my life, through all my experiences with my alien contacts, they have never mislead me or has anything come out to be wrong that they have said. This is not because they are never wrong, but because they are very careful and have a tremendous grasp of how their actions are going to effect things.

I know they are alien people because they tell me they come from other worlds. Every being can speak telepathically and does, whether they are physically aware of it or not. If you can be aware of it, then you can be aware of telepathy from any other being or kind of being. However, humans' abilities are as primitive as we are naturally, but further advanced beings can cause us to use our abilities more than we can on our own.

[joyrex]

Originally posted by EarthSister
If I was hallucinating any of this, my husband would not hear the same thing at the same time.I wonder, are you and your husband capable of communicating telepathically with each other? A simple test for this could be set up and this kind of wonderful phenomenon could be proved true.

[WildCat]

EarthSister, you will have to come up w/ some evidence to support your claims. This is a skeptic board after all, and an extraordinary claim such as yours requires evidence if you have any hope of convincing us. For instance, if the aliens really want to help us surely it would be a simple matter for such an advanced species (who are able to travel at many times the speed of light) to drop off in your living room a cure for AIDS, or the common cold, or cancer.

It also seems to me that their diplomatic skills are somewhat lacking, as they only seem to reveal themselves to obscure people in a manner that mimics precisely the symptoms of schizophrenia. Why not just hijack a communications satellite and reveal themselves to the world during a World Cup or Super Bowl telecast?

[EarthSister]

>>I wonder, are you and your husband capable of communicating telepathically with each other? A simple test for this could be set up and this kind of wonderful phenomenon could be proved true.<<

joyrex

Once in a while by surprise, never on demand.

[EarthSister]

>>EarthSister, you will have to come up w/ some evidence to support your claims. This is a skeptic board after all, and an extraordinary claim such as yours requires evidence if you have any hope of convincing us. For instance, if the aliens really want to help us surely it would be a simple matter for such an advanced species (who are able to travel at many times the speed of light) to drop off in your living room a cure for AIDS, or the common cold, or cancer.

It also seems to me that their diplomatic skills are somewhat lacking, as they only seem to reveal themselves to obscure people in a manner that mimics precisely the symptoms of schizophrenia. Why not just hijack a communications satellite and reveal themselves to the world during a World Cup or Super Bowl telecast?<<

WildCat

The only evidence I own or control is personal experience and experiences with a number of other people besides my husband and my children. What I do is help introduce people who already have alien contact, to their alien contacts, help them relax and communicate, and figure out how and why things happen the way they do.

I do not hope to convince anybody. What I do is share information with other people too, such as the investigators, and anybody else who just wants to know about it. Evidence does not prove anything at all. Any evidence can be a trick and it usually is, isn't it? The alien races have their own process of giving our world evidence and it does not include handing a piece of it to an individual human, at least not like you are asking.

If the aliens showed themselves on TV, you would not believe it, and you shouldn't believe it. Right after that, every trickster would be claiming ownership, copy-catting, going on Jerry Springer, etc. That would be no good. But when enough people learn enough true facts about the aliens and why they are here, so that open contact can be productive and progressive, it will happen. Education is the first key to it, not evidence.

I am not defensive, and I do not expect people who have not had any kind of similar experience to believe what I say. It would not be prudent to just believe me. But if you or anybody you care about had any kind of experience of an alien kind, this is information you would want to know.

The advanced races will one day help us humans with cures for our diseases and cleaning up our world, feeding everyone, uniting our countries, etc. if and when we we are ready to ally with ourselves and then with them. It happens to every world.

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by EarthSister
>>EarthSister, you will have to come up w/ some evidence to support your claims. This is a skeptic board after all, and an extraordinary claim such as yours requires evidence if you have any hope of convincing us. For instance, if the aliens really want to help us surely it would be a simple matter for such an advanced species (who are able to travel at many times the speed of light) to drop off in your living room a cure for AIDS, or the common cold, or cancer.

It also seems to me that their diplomatic skills are somewhat lacking, as they only seem to reveal themselves to obscure people in a manner that mimics precisely the symptoms of schizophrenia. Why not just hijack a communications satellite and reveal themselves to the world during a World Cup or Super Bowl telecast?<<

WildCat

The only evidence I own or control is personal experience and experiences with a number of other people besides my husband and my children. What I do is help introduce people who already have alien contact, to their alien contacts, help them relax and communicate, and figure out how and why things happen the way they do.

I do not hope to convince anybody. What I do is share information with other people too, such as the investigators, and anybody else who just wants to know about it. Evidence does not prove anything at all. Any evidence can be a trick and it usually is, isn't it? The alien races have their own process of giving our world evidence and it does not include handing a piece of it to an individual human, at least not like you are asking.

If the aliens showed themselves on TV, you would not believe it, and you shouldn't believe it. Right after that, every trickster would be claiming ownership, copy-catting, going on Jerry Springer, etc. That would be no good. But when enough people learn enough true facts about the aliens and why they are here, so that open contact can be productive and progressive, it will happen. Education is the first key to it, not evidence.

I am not defensive, and I do not expect people who have not had any kind of similar experience to believe what I say. It would not be prudent to just believe me. But if you or anybody you care about had any kind of experience of an alien kind, this is information you would want to know.

The advanced races will one day help us humans with cures for our diseases and cleaning up our world, feeding everyone, uniting our countries, etc. if and when we we are ready to ally with ourselves and then with them. It happens to every world.

looks like i'll have to quote Ellen Ripley again.

[thaiboxerken]

The only evidence I own or control is personal experience and experiences with a number of other people besides my husband and my children.

Anecdotes are unreliable as evidence, this is backed by history. You can tell whatever stories you like, but until you can back them with empirical evidence, it's just a story.

What I do is help introduce people who already have alien contact, to their alien contacts, help them relax and communicate, and figure out how and why things happen the way they do.

What you are doing is feeding other's delusions so that you can feel better about your delusion. I think you watched MIB a few too many times.

I do not hope to convince anybody. What I do is share information with other people too, such as the investigators, and anybody else who just wants to know about it. Evidence does not prove anything at all. Any evidence can be a trick and it usually is, isn't it?

Trickery is deception, not evidence. Yes, evidence can be falsified, but that's why there are qualified people around to help keep people from cheating. Evidence does give a claim substance, your claim has no substance. You can easily PROVE to the world that you have alien friends by having them show up with you on Oprah or any of your other favorite media programs. You can make yourself an instant millionaire by showing up at JREF with your alien buddy. I suspect you'll find plenty of evasions for that, though. Probably "humans aren't ready for aliens" or something to that affect.

The alien races have their own process of giving our world evidence and it does not include handing a piece of it to an individual human, at least not like you are asking.

Yea, I guess it's more like giving it to certain individuals and evading science. That way they make the people they choose look like foolish and insance people. That's just profound. You are simply doing what you can to make your claim unfalsifiable and evade the requirement of backing your claim up with evidence.

If the aliens showed themselves on TV, you would not believe it, and you shouldn't believe it.

Yea, maybe not the first time, however if they repeatedly did so I would start to believe. I would also accept it if they simply showed up to claim the million bucks from James Randi.

Right after that, every trickster would be claiming ownership, copy-catting, going on Jerry Springer, etc. That would be no good.

LOL. That's true, just like there are so many copycat tricksters that claim to talk to aliens. TV isn't the only media, there are live events that they can show up on. If they existed, it would be easy to verify their existence... as long as they cooperated. I'm sure there are plenty of scientists that would be interested in aliens and interviewing one. You are finding excuses. You know that you don't have alien buddies, so you make up these lame-ass excuses to not provide evidence of them.

But when enough people learn enough true facts about the aliens and why they are here, so that open contact can be productive and progressive, it will happen. Education is the first key to it, not evidence.

False, evidence is a requirement of education. If you want to learn about something, wouldn't you want actual evidence that the something existed? Otherwise, let me teach you all about how Ice Dragons live and how they are affecting your life right now.

I am not defensive, and I do not expect people who have not had any kind of similar experience to believe what I say. It would not be prudent to just believe me. But if you or anybody you care about had any kind of experience of an alien kind, this is information you would want to know.

So you cater to the insane. I understand, you have a need not to be alone in your insanity.

The advanced races will one day help us humans with cures for our diseases and cleaning up our world, feeding everyone, uniting our countries, etc. if and when we we are ready to ally with ourselves and then with them. It happens to every world.

LOL. You really should lay off of the drugs and maybe stop reading the science fiction for a while.

I love reading science fiction myself, but I really don't believe that there are Vulcans.

[EarthSister]

thaiboxerken

I understand your position, and you are right about almost everything you have said. All I can say is if you want to know about the aliens, ask me. All I can do is explain as much as I know from my own experience. If you really don't think the aliens are real, that's fine too, it doesn't really matter.

I have no interest in proving anything or in that million dollars.

[thaiboxerken]

Originally posted by EarthSister

I have no interest in proving anything or in that million dollars.


Of course not, believers in this nonsense all-too-often aren't interested in that milliondollars. You know, that million dollars could help out your favorite charity. Then again, I guess you really don't care about helping out anyone but other insane people like yourself.

[WildCat]

Originally posted by EarthSister
I have no interest in proving anything or in that million dollars.
From EarthSister's web site:

Item Name: Video Interview with Jack and Nancy Malacaria
Item Number: 2032
Price: $22.00

Meet Jack & Nancy. Hear them describe their personal experiences,
their work with The Project and their alien contacts. 30 min.

Yet you are interested in selling videos and are also publishing a book. Frankly, this has all been done before here (http://www.zetatalk.com/) and numerous other places. Why should we believe you when you have a profit motive and are just repeating what many others have done before you?

Just don't make any specific predictions about the future, and you can milk this longer than Nancy did w/ Planet X.

[EarthSister]

>>Of course not, believers in this nonsense all-too-often aren't interested in that milliondollars. You know, that million dollars could help out your favorite charity. Then again, I guess you really don't care about helping out anyone but other insane people like yourself.<<

thaiboxerken

There are many kinds of minds and people in this field. Including skeptics, and believers, and EXPERIENCERS. I am an Experiencer. I am honest and sincere, and I am mentally stable.

I work very hard for my money and always have. I would not take advantage of other people or risk losing their trust by taking their money for my spiritual work.

Just because some unfortunately insane people claim some wild things, does not mean that those things do not exist at all. And some insane people actually do experience some of what they claim no matter how wild they seem to be.

I represent the alien races, not the insane.

[geni]

Originally posted by EarthSister
thaiboxerken

I understand your position, and you are right about almost everything you have said. All I can say is if you want to know about the aliens, ask me. All I can do is explain as much as I know from my own experience. If you really don't think the aliens are real, that's fine too, it doesn't really matter.


Well lets go through the standard where are they from? What do they look like and what are they made from?

[EarthSister]

>>Yet you are interested in selling videos and are also publishing a book. Frankly, this has all been done before here and numerous other places. Why should we believe you when you have a profit motive and are just repeating what many others have done before you?

Just don't make any specific predictions about the future, and you can milk this longer than Nancy did w/ Planet X.<<

WildCat

I am writing three books. The first two are my journals from the first 18 months, and then the next 2 years of my family's educational experiences with our alien contacts. If you don't want to buy my video or my books, don't. I still speak for free, and I will tell you anything you want to know that is in them.

I have no profit motive at all in this work. I run cleaning businesses for the money it takes to live and support my family.

I know all about Nancy and Planet X, and that is a sad story of how she lost her way.

[EarthSister]

>>Well lets go through the standard where are they from? What do they look like and what are they made from?<<

geni

The 218 races that visit Earth are from "nearby" in our galaxy, our own arm Orion, and just a few from our neighboring two arms. These are our neighbors that are advanced enough to get here, and close enough to get back home within a reasonable amount of time so that they can set up here and stay to work, but still visit their families. All advanced races visit and work at their neighboring worlds.

They all look like people, but some have additional shapes as well. We are all in some ways similar and all in some ways unique. All the race that can get here are much further evolved than we are.

Their bodies are made of the stuff of their own worlds, as well ours are made of our own stuff.

[ImpyTimpy]

Have you ever asked yourself how it is that you are the selected one to pass all this information on? Why wasn't someone more important selected to communicate these messages to the rest of the world.

Obviously "because the world is not ready" is incorrect, since you are here attempting to communicate to and teach the rest of the world about these different aliens. So why you, the insignificant human, chosen to distribute something as ground breaking and unique as alien life visiting our planet?

[geni]

They look roughly human and are made of stuff you can make planets out of. That means they are going to be carbon or at a pinch silicon based. So they are basicly going to have to obey the same laws of physics as us. Is that right?

[Jeff Corey]

Originally posted by EarthSister
They all look like people, but some have additional shapes as well. We are all in some ways similar and all in some ways unique. All the race that can get here are much further evolved than we are.
Let me struggle to understand. They look like people, but some have additional shapes?
Like another head-shaped thing on one its shoulders?
I saw on of them a couple of times. His name was Veedlebrox or something, I couldn't understand too well, he had a funny accent.

[Aussie Thinker]

ARRRRGHHHHHH.. Enough LADS !

Please don’t afford this idiot any more of our time.

She has produced NOTHING..

She has provided NO evidence

She even has a badly made up story.. MIB had a better plot !

Her site is even more laughable than the COMIC one this thread was started for… and all the more hilarious because it takes itself seriously !

WE all know she doesn’t believe the crap she writes so she is just a crude LIAR anyway. If she was plain insane I might humour her.. but the insane don’t whack $ 20 price tags on their videos !

[EarthSister]

>>Have you ever asked yourself how it is that you are the selected one to pass all this information on? Why wasn't someone more important selected to communicate these messages to the rest of the world.

Obviously "because the world is not ready" is incorrect, since you are here attempting to communicate to and teach the rest of the world about these different aliens. So why you, the insignificant human, chosen to distribute something as ground breaking and unique as alien life visiting our planet?<<

ImpyTimpy

Yes, and it took time and experience to understand it. Mostly it is because my husband and I are able and willing to do what we do. What we do is meet our own alien contacts, learn things from them, then help others who have contact to meet their own contacts too. Contact is never random. Every human who has personal alien contact is related to his contacts by spirit. The relationship is lifelong and longer than lifelong, but how far contact can progress between the human and the aliens depends on how well the human can handle it, or is willing to handle it and the disruptions it causes to normal life.

Many more people have alien experiences, than the number of people who even know they do. Most do not even know it on a physical level, or do not know what kind of experiences they are having. It is very difficult for the aliens to approach the individuals they work with, and most courses stop due to the difficulties.

Many of the humans who have ongoing, productive contact with alien life are professionals in our human fields, and because of this, they would never tell you they have contact. Experiencers in govt positions, or politics or science, work with alien life inside of their professions, and if anybody really knew, they would lose their positions anyway. The things people learn about from the aliens are the things they need to know to do what they need to do with the aliens. Scientists learn about science, doctors learn about medicine, public speakers learn about the nature of the aliens, and help other people get to know them. I am free to speak with no high position to lose, and at no great risk of harm by those who would stop me, because I am an ordinary person not running a revolt or starting a cult. I just teach about the nature of contact and most of it is misunderstood by those who have never experienced it anyway.

[EarthSister]

>>Let me struggle to understand. They look like people, but some have additional shapes?
Like another head-shaped thing on one its shoulders?
I saw on of them a couple of times. His name was Veedlebrox or something, I couldn't understand too well, he had a funny accent.<<

Jeff Corey

Some can naturally change their shapes to appear as something completely different from their original shape.

[Aussie Thinker]

Actually forget my last post.

Here is a picture of Earth Sister (from her site)

http://users.froggy.com.au/steveryan/Nancy.jpg

Looks pretty damn good for having 5 kids.

Now she is either a con artist and I can admire her cleverness or she is a completely gullible idiot in which case.. Nancy.. can you sent me a private email I would like you to come over and look at my Alien stamp collection….

[Iamme]

EarthSister---Are aliens making crop circles?

Do aliens believe in Jesus?

Do aliens believe in John Edward?

Why would aliens have lights on their flying saucers or craft? I watched a show about UFO's last night. There was this triangular shaped craft flying in some foreign country with three lights on the bottom of it. They tried to intercept it with military craft, but couldn't locate it, as radar seemed to have no affect on it. They don't THINK it was our stealth aircraft.

Why don't brave aliens take a chance and land here and try to shake our hand, and see what happens? Surely there must be some brave ones amongst themselves.

[El Greco]

Darn, this is better than X-Files http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0903/alles_moegliche/mixed-smiley-014.gif

[geni]

form the project at earth This is Zar, Leader of The Project. His race is the most elite of The Project races and in this part of the Universe. He is five feet tall in body form and has round black eyes and a tiny nose and mouth. His body is made out of light and his home is a star which takes 17 days to get to at greater than light speed. His ships are made out of light too. He's about 500 Earth years old and in his first life. Jack and Zar are family by soul

If the body is made out of light the eyes could not be black. If the planet of the being were mde out of light that would need a suficatly high mass the thier escape veloicity would be in excess of 299792458 M per sec. Such an ojebct is know as a black hole.

[EarthSister]

>>EarthSister---Are aliens making crop circles?

Do aliens believe in Jesus?

Do aliens believe in John Edward?

Why would aliens have lights on their flying saucers or craft? I watched a show about UFO's last night. There was this triangular shaped craft flying in some foreign country with three lights on the bottom of it. They tried to intercept it with military craft, but couldn't locate it, as radar seemed to have no affect on it. They don't THINK it was our stealth aircraft.

Why don't brave aliens take a chance and land here and try to shake our hand, and see what happens? Surely there must be some brave ones amongst themselves.<<

lamme

Many of our visiting races make crop circles. Unfortunately, many human groups make them too for professional reasons. The fakes are pushed for front coverage and the authentic ones are hidden as much as possible. The desired effect of the special interest groups is to confuse the issues, and it works. Our leading crop circle specialists are paid off to keep quiet, and unfortunately that works too. However, we have a documented history of the authentic coded messages that humans cannot reproduce, and that history will be of the most value to our understanding of what the aliens are really like.

All known advanced races believe in God as the one God. Jesus was body of man here, spirit of God. That is how God lived in our race with us. God has been to live inside many races on many worlds, but not all races needed that, some God could just talk to.

I have never asked my alien contacts specifically about John Edward. But I know from my own experience that what John Edward is claiming to do, can be done.

I do not know why alien crafts have lights on them, but when the lights draw your attention so you can see what it is, that is the reason they are there and the lights are on at that moment. Every technology our military has, the aliens have better that can override them.

If the aliens just landed and stepped out, they would die immediately. Everything is different world to world, temperatures, germs, chemicals of air and humidity, light, atmospheric pressure, etc. The ways the aliens have to approach us by technology and natural abilities such as telepathy and out of body travel, look like magic to us, and it's not easy to accomplish a well received meeting. When they do manage to approach, the humans flip out, or go believing the horror stories and propaganda they have heard, or they tell their pastor and he tells them it was the devil, or they tell their doctor and he tells them they need medication, etc. Even if the human wants to proceed, often it just can't be productive.

Our visiting races have already been offering their assistance and friendship to the leaders of our nations for a very long time. The leading nations and the factions of our humanity already have their own way of operating and the aliens' ways are still unwelcome by those who run our world. But that is changing rapidly now.

[Aussie Thinker]

Geni,

Darn it.. we ARE gunna scare her away now (real facts are NOT allowed damn it).. and I had some Alien etchings I wanted her to come up and see !

Nancy ignore my first post.. we want to hear more from you !

[geni]

Originally posted by Aussie Thinker
Geni,

Darn it.. we ARE gunna scare her away now (real fact are NOT allowed damn it).. and I had some Alien etchings I wanted her to come up and see !

Nancy ignore my first post.. we want to hear more from you !

She does have her own forum....

[EarthSister]

>>If the body is made out of light the eyes could not be black. If the planet of the being were mde out of light that would need a suficatly high mass the thier escape veloicity would be in excess of 299792458 M per sec. Such an ojebct is know as a black hole.<<

geni

Good point about his eyes. Maybe they are black due to a lack of light, or appear to be black in contrast to his brightness. I never asked him that but his eyes always look the same- black.

The object that is his home is a star, but I don't know anything about the velocity of a black hole.

[El Greco]

Is there anything special about "experiencers" ? Can we estimate how many "experiencers" are there ?

[Aussie Thinker]

Nancy all jokes aside…

I am coming to Boston soon to do some work with Stainless Steel Studios in Cambridge.

I am sure we could get together and discuss Alien adventures.

Your husband won’t mind I am sure.. (but don’t bother bringing him along)

Here is my email stephen.ryan@doi.vic.gov.au.

I will staying at the Marriot in Cambrige (near MIT) from the 15th 20th Dec 2003. I will bring my etchings and stamps….

[EarthSister]

>>She does have her own forum....<<

Anyone is welcome in my forum if they have serious and respectful questions about my work.

[geni]

Originally posted by EarthSister

The object that is his home is a star, but I don't know anything about the velocity of a black hole.

Stars are made out of plasma and super hot gas not light.

[volant]

Originally posted by geni
They look roughly human and are made of stuff you can make planets out of. That means they are going to be carbon or at a pinch silicon based. So they are basicly going to have to obey the same laws of physics as us. Is that right?

Hey now, we're talking about alien spacecraft... Don't be bringing up the P word.

:wink:

[Aussie Thinker]

Geni..

Spoilsport…

She has this great little fantasy story worked out and you keep ruining it with science..

[Iamme]

This is fascinating. I am gettin that same spooky feeling I had by listening to EarthSister as I did 20 years ago in Texas when I thought I was approached by a real angel and he explained how gravity could work (he worded it in such a way as to be coy by saying "could be", instread of "Is", to sort of keep a question mark in my head as to who this blond haired blue eyed guy was who said he was from down the road, but I never had seen him before.

EarthSister---Could you quickly point out to me who you are exactly? Are YOU an alien? Or, are you some laison for them?

[EarthSister]

>>Is there anything special about "experiencers" ? Can we estimate how many "experiencers" are there ?<<

El Greco

What is special about alien Experiencers is that we are related by spirit to an advanced race of people. That means that we have a natural relationship which affords us the potential of personal contact. When a being bears a child, the being's spirit bears the child's spirit. By spirit, we inherit the spiritual nature of our parents and ancestors just as by body we inherit genetics. That does not guarantee alien contact though, nor does it guarantee access to or use of advanced natural abilities. Successful contact has much more to do with nurturing than with nature, just as the child of a concert pianist cannot just play piano the same way.

40 to 42% of the entire population of our world is related to some other race by spirit. 10% of those used to be in life on another world before. The rest of the Experiencers are offspring of the 10%. These numbers have very little to do with ongoing contact or courses. Not all alien experiences have permanent contact, and most of them do not recall a blessed thing. Of those that figure it out, most are completely confused, understandably.

I didn't make it up, I didn't read it anywhere and I didn't get it wrong. I have talked about it a number of times with my alien contacts.

[EarthSister]

>>Stars are made out of plasma and super hot gas not light.<<

geni

You might know better than I do. But my understanding is that light is a physical substance, and is made of many more elements than we know yet. Light is also a mixture of various amounts of different elements, which means there are many kinds of light.

Zar's race's bodies are made from materials that match their home. He looks like light to me, and he calls it light. He also calls what his race is made of, "intelligent energy."

[EarthSister]

>>They look roughly human and are made of stuff you can make planets out of. That means they are going to be carbon or at a pinch silicon based. So they are basicly going to have to obey the same laws of physics as us. Is that right?<<

geni

Yes, they are based of carbon too. They told us that a long time ago, but never anything about silicon.

Yes, they are bound by the same physics that exists, but our understandings of physics are just too incomplete yet to use them exclusively to determine what such further advanced races can do or not do with their natural abilities and technologies.

[geni]

Originally posted by EarthSister


geni

You might know better than I do. But my understanding is that light is a physical substance, and is made of many more elements than we know yet. Light is also a mixture of various amounts of different elements, which means there are many kinds of light.


Nope Light is not made from elements it is made from photons.

[EarthSister]

>>EarthSister---Could you quickly point out to me who you are exactly? Are YOU an alien? Or, are you some laison for them?<<

lamme

I am Nancy Malacaria. Human. I have a great deal of alien contact, and it is my opportunity and my choice to help other people who have alien contact, and anybody interested. I do it for the benefit of both the aliens and the humans, and for the relationship.

Eventually, our whole world will have open contact with all our visiting races. It happens to every newer race, but for us humans it is taking an awful long time to figure out through all the dogma, propaganda and commercialism.

The only way a human can be alien, is by spirit, and that is the natural way of life throughout the Universe. No alien people live on Earth or inside of Earth at all.

I don't know who or what you saw that time you described.

[EarthSister]

>>Nope Light is not made from elements it is made from photons.<<

Okay, but do you think it could be made of other things we do not know about yet?

[geni]

Originally posted by EarthSister


geni

Yes, they are based of carbon too. They told us that a long time ago, but never anything about silicon.

Yes, they are bound by the same physics that exists, but our understandings of physics are just too incomplete yet to use them exclusively to determine what such further advanced races can do or not do with their natural abilities and technologies.

Zar, Bja and The Gendar are cleary not carbon based as they are made of light. Since Zar lives on a star wich mean a minium tempreture of abot 15000 degrees C we can be sure that he is not in any way carbon based .

Do you know which star The Blue come from?

[geni]

Originally posted by EarthSister

Okay, but do you think it could be made of other things we do not know about yet?

We know what light is. It is a stream of photons (ok this is not quite true but it is as close as you are going to get to the truth without getting a degree in physics).

[Loki]

The 218 races that visit Earth are from "nearby" in our galaxy, our own arm Orion, and just a few from our neighboring two arms.
Gasp! That adds up to 3 arms!! I'm convinced - I mean, what sort of human has three arms!....oh...wait...you meant spiral galaxy arms...nevermind.

[EarthSister]

>>Do you know which star The Blue come from?<<

geni

The Blue comes from a planet and is our closest neighbor. His race is who lives inside of Mars.

Light beings' homes are stars. Physical matter beings' homes are planets. Except for Bja, because his race is rare in that each person changes at a point in their lives, from more physical matter to more of light. Bja's home is a planet.

[Aussie Thinker]

Nancy,

Thanks for the email .. but I was just kidding..

Seriously just look at all the contradictions Geni is showing your Alien stories to have..

No one will take you seriously without any sort of realisitc proof.

I hope you aren't leading your kids into this fantasy world !

[EarthSister]

>>I take it you are ignoring my posts !!<<

Aussie Thinker

I answered you to your email.

I can't tell which proposition you are serious about and which you are joking about. But I am not interested in any extracurricular relationship in any case.

[EarthSister]

>>Thanks for the email .. but I was just kidding..

Seriously just look at all the contradictions Geni is showing your Alien stories to have..

No one will take you seriously without any sort of realisitc proof.

I hope you aren't leading your kids into this fantasy world !<<

Aussie Thinker

I see your points. I am not concerned about being believed by all- If I was, I would not stick my neck out. I have no physical proof that could be taken by everybody at face value. The proof of visitation to those who do not have their own experiences is up to the aliens.

Our children have had their own experiences all their lives and are very comfortable with the aliens. They are not as comfortable with some human people they meet though, as you can imagine.

You call it a fantasy world, so I have to reply to that again and say, I am honest and not mentally ill in any way. It's real and I speak strictly from my own life-long experience.

I know what it sounds like to you. But those who have their own experiences take me seriously. I don't blame those who don't, except when they are hostile.

[Aussie Thinker]

Nancy,

There are people in asylums who are quite sure their experiences are real also.

Here is how to cure yourself.

Just pretend for a while that your “experiences” with aliens are in your own mind (and in others) and they are not real.

Now find yourself some other proof outside of your mind (and others) this should be easy if Aliens are so prevalent as you say... when you do not find any use the rational part of you that remains to discern that your alien “experiences” are part of a mental problem you have.

If you do find some proof (other than unprovable mental experiences) you can then provide it here.

[EarthSister]

Aussie Thinker

Thank you kindly.

[thaiboxerken]

There are many kinds of minds and people in this field.

What are your credentials?

I am an Experiencer. I am honest and sincere, and I am mentally stable.

I doubt it. It's more likely that you are either dishonest or mentally ill. Until evidence is provided to support your claim, those are the two logical conclusions.

I work very hard for my money and always have. I would not take advantage of other people or risk losing their trust by taking their money for my spiritual work.

Except by taking their money by selling the tapes and books, right? I guess it does take some hard work to con people, but it's not honest work. What would be honest would be taking the million dollars from James Randi by bringing one of your alien buddies with you to his building.

I represent the alien races, not the insane.

Listen to yourself. What would you think if someone said "I reprensent the blue smurfs that live in my basement, not the insane"? Clearly, you need some therapy. Have you even considered that you and your husband are not mentally stable? Have you gone to get your minds examined by a professional? If I saw such weird things, that would be my first priority, to get it established that I'm not insane.

I have no profit motive at all in this work.

What's your profit margin on these books?

I know all about Nancy and Planet X, and that is a sad story of how she lost her way.

You are just like Nancy, just with a different claim. She, like you, didn't have any evidence to support her claims. Why should anyone believe you?

Every human who has personal alien contact is related to his contacts by spirit

What is a spirit? Now you have introduced another paranormal thing into your claims.

Many of the humans who have ongoing, productive contact with alien life are professionals in our human fields, and because of this, they would never tell you they have contact.

LOL. Ahh, the alien conspiracy for good. LMAO.

Experiencers in govt positions, or politics or science, work with alien life inside of their professions, and if anybody really knew, they would lose their positions anyway.

That's because most people don't want the insane governing them. How we ended up with Bush as president disturbs me though. Maybe Bush talks to aliens, but calls them "God", eh?

Scientists learn about science, doctors learn about medicine, public speakers learn about the nature of the aliens, and help other people get to know them.

No, humans gain knowledge by themselves using scientific method. Please don't discredit people by blaming the aliens for their successes.

I am free to speak with no high position to lose, and at no great risk of harm by those who would stop me, because I am an ordinary person not running a revolt or starting a cult.

But it appears that you ARE starting a cult with your selling of books and tapes. Your website is aimed at convincing people. You claim that many high-position people know of aliens, along with many other people. Well, if so many people know of these aliens.. doesn't that mean we're ready for official "contact", instead of having to listen to the rantings of insane fools like you? Take your alien to Oprah and the high-position officials would no longer be in risk of losing their jobs by declaring that they talk to aliens as well, right?

, many human groups make them too for professional reasons.

No, they make them to fool people like you. Even when caught, you are still fooled. Don't let the evidence hurt your belief system, right?

Our leading crop circle specialists are paid off to keep quiet, and unfortunately that works too.

More conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories are convenient, as they make your claim unfalsifiable because the conspiracy can be blamed for covering things up and thus producing a lack of evidence.

All known advanced races believe in God as the one God.

I guess they aren't that advanced then, as the belief in "god" is a rather primitive thing.

Jesus was body of man here, spirit of God.

Jesus is a mythological hero, a tall tale.

But I know from my own experience that what John Edward is claiming to do, can be done.

Yet no person can pass the JREF challenge by doing exactly that.

Every technology our military has, the aliens have better that can override them.

Another convenience added to your story to justify there being no evidence to support your position.

If the aliens just landed and stepped out, they would die immediately.

They are so advanced, yet the concept of an environmental suit evades them?

The ways the aliens have to approach us by technology and natural abilities such as telepathy and out of body travel, look like magic to us, and it's not easy to accomplish a well received meeting.

More claims, telapathy is not an established phenomena. "Out of body travel" is also another paranormal claim.

The leading nations and the factions of our humanity already have their own way of operating and the aliens' ways are still unwelcome by those who run our world. But that is changing rapidly now.

I doubt it. I predict that within the next... millenia, we won't see any of these so called aliens of yours. I predict that there will not be an alien enlightenment period. I predict that nothing you say will ever be validated with evidence.

40 to 42% of the entire population of our world is related to some other race by spirit.

Then we should be more than ready for you to bring an alien to the news media.

I didn't make it up, I didn't read it anywhere and I didn't get it wrong. I have talked about it a number of times with my alien contacts.

Did those alien contacts use Harris as their polling agency?

But my understanding is that light is a physical substance, and is made of many more elements than we know yet. Light is also a mixture of various amounts of different elements, which means there are many kinds of light

You should go to school again.

Yes, they are based of carbon too.

I thought you just said you knew one that was made of light. Light is not made of carbon.

No alien people live on Earth or inside of Earth at all.

But they work on earth and visit their home planet sometimes, right? So, i guess temporary residency isn't "living on earth".

Okay, but do you think it (light) could be made of other things we do not know about yet?

No.

His race is who lives inside of Mars.

LOL, Martians!! Hey, is there really a Martian named Marvin? Really, there is no life on Mars. We are discovering that there may have been though.

have no physical proof that could be taken by everybody at face value.

Do you have any evidence at all?!

Our children have had their own experiences all their lives and are very comfortable with the aliens.

Now you are brainwashing your children into this insanity?! I think child-protection services should be called in now.

You call it a fantasy world, so I have to reply to that again and say, I am honest and not mentally ill in any way.

LOL. No matter how often you declare that you are honest and mentally fit, it will not convince anyone that you are. I suggest you seek a professional opinion about your mental state. Why not just eliminated the possibility of insanity to yourself?

That is, if you aren't just lying to make money with your books and tapes.

[EarthSister]

thaiboxerken

Thanks for holding off so long to let me have some say. I really appreciate it.

I understand where you are coming from and if I didn't know better, I would feel the same way.

[thaiboxerken]

Hey, I could use a million bucks. Think you can ask an alien to help me out in claiming the JREF money?

[Aussie Thinker]

Ken,

I already gave her my address and asked her to send them round.. I promised they wouldn’t scare me !

The answer was…

“If you already have contact, then tell your alien friends to visit you. I can't set you up, and I don't want to be endorsed. I prefer to lay low, but thank you anyway.
I don't think you really think I am delusional either.”

Hmmm .. weird that.. I was sure they would come around STRAIGHT AWAY.. I was SHOCKED that Nancy can’t even ASK them to visit me..

Damn … and for once I thought we had the real deal … !

[ImpyTimpy]

Originally posted by EarthSister
>>Have you ever asked yourself how it is that you are the selected one to pass all this information on? Why wasn't someone more important selected to communicate these messages to the rest of the world.

Obviously "because the world is not ready" is incorrect, since you are here attempting to communicate to and teach the rest of the world about these different aliens. So why you, the insignificant human, chosen to distribute something as ground breaking and unique as alien life visiting our planet?<<

ImpyTimpy

Yes, and it took time and experience to understand it. Mostly it is because my husband and I are able and willing to do what we do. What we do is meet our own alien contacts, learn things from them, then help others who have contact to meet their own contacts too. Contact is never random. Every human who has personal alien contact is related to his contacts by spirit. The relationship is lifelong and longer than lifelong, but how far contact can progress between the human and the aliens depends on how well the human can handle it, or is willing to handle it and the disruptions it causes to normal life.

So once again why you. Seems to me this "contact" does not benefit anyone except you, considering you have plans to make a book out of it. Why would the aliens be interested in talking to you if all you're going to do is make a book of it in the end? What do the aliens get out of it? Nothing. What do you get out of it? A book. For an advanced race they sure seem idiotic.

Doesn't make sense...


Many more people have alien experiences, than the number of people who even know they do. Most do not even know it on a physical level, or do not know what kind of experiences they are having. It is very difficult for the aliens to approach the individuals they work with, and most courses stop due to the difficulties.

Interesting that everyone describes their aliens differently wouldn't you say? Yet each one person claims to be the one that knows all there is to know, you included. How is it we have so many different "aliens" with different ideas and each person presenting them say they are the ones who know they are right. Remember the heaven's gate people? They also knew they were right... They're dead now, but they knew they were right. What's different here? Nothing. Another "nobody" who says they are in touch with higher beings.


Many of the humans who have ongoing, productive contact with alien life are professionals in our human fields, and because of this, they would never tell you they have contact. Experiencers in govt positions, or politics or science, work with alien life inside of their professions, and if anybody really knew, they would lose their positions anyway.

Now that's just insane. If tomorrow some of the greatest scientific minds announced that aliens are in fact real, I assure you, they wouldn't lose their jobs nor their status in the scientific community. Far from it, I'm sure the human race could benefit greatly from such advanced life forms.


The things people learn about from the aliens are the things they need to know to do what they need to do with the aliens. Scientists learn about science, doctors learn about medicine, public speakers learn about the nature of the aliens, and help other people get to know them. I am free to speak with no high position to lose, and at no great risk of harm by those who would stop me, because I am an ordinary person not running a revolt or starting a cult. I just teach about the nature of contact and most of it is misunderstood by those who have never experienced it anyway.
So once again, why such a great and advanced civilisation isn't making contact with credible people? Why do they only make contact with people who are, well, for the lack of a better word, worth nothing?

Better still, how do we know you're the one with all the answers about the aliens, considering we have Nancy telling us she is in direct contact with the aliens too. We have had heaven's gate organisation who was also in direct contact with the aliens. All these people having all this contact yet not a single credible person among them. Why is that?

[EarthSister]

ImpyTimpy

>>So once again, why such a great and advanced civilisation isn't making contact with credible people? Why do they only make contact with people who are, well, for the lack of a better word, worth nothing?<<

Worth nothing? Thanks a lot. That feels like a solid punch in the stomach. Did you ever consider that maybe once somebody says they have contact, they just become worth nothing to you but somebody to punch.

>>Better still, how do we know you're the one with all the answers about the aliens, considering we have Nancy telling us she is in direct contact with the aliens too. We have had heaven's gate organisation who was also in direct contact with the aliens. All these people having all this contact yet not a single credible person among them. Why is that?<<

You don't know the difference between the truth and a lie when it comes to alien life. It's all the same to you, that's why you can't know who or what to believe. It's not your fault.

[Aussie Thinker]

Nancy…

*Sigh*

Worth nothing? Thanks a lot. That feels like a solid punch in the stomach. Did you ever consider that maybe once somebody says they have contact, they just become worth nothing to you but somebody to punch.

You are a nobody Nancy.. just like me and Impy Timpy and Ken..

We are VERY important to ourselves.. In fact we are the centre of our own little universes .. but to everyone else we are worth nothing…

Face it.. getting huffy about being told that is pointless .. IT is just stating a fact.

He is saying to ask why wouldn’t the Aliens contact someone who WOULD have some credibility.. Why do you yourself even question.. “Why me ?”

No one believes me so are the Aliens just setting me up to look like and idiot ?

Nice guys…

Why won’t they provide me with any proof so I DON’T look like and idiot..

Some Pals..

Its about NOW you should question wether they exist only in your mind !

[New Ager]

Earth Sister,

How do you communicate with aliens?

When was the first time you communicated with an alien?

Have you ever seen an alien ship?

Have you ever been inside an alien ship?

Are aliens basically all very nice?

When will aliens decide to talk to the masses?

How can I talk to an alien?

[thaiboxerken]

You are a nobody Nancy.. just like me and Impy Timpy and Ken..

I'm somebody, goddammit!!


We are VERY important to ourselves.. In fact we are the centre of our own little universes .. but to everyone else we are worth nothing…

No, I'm the most important person on the planet. Most people just haven't realized it yet.


You don't know the difference between the truth and a lie when it comes to alien life. It's all the same to you, that's why you can't know who or what to believe. It's not your fault.

Wrong, what you have said is both self-contradictory and absurd scientifically. Therefore, I know not to believe you until you provide evidence for your claim. It's YOUR fault that I don't believe because you refuse to support your claim with evidence. It's YOUR fault because you contradict your own statements and your story is not consistent.


I have a question, Nancy, do you play the lottery?

[joyrex]

Originally posted by EarthSister
Once in a while by surprise, never on demand.How about you inquire from the aliens ways to make on-demand telepathy? Looks like the aliens know how to do it. Wouldn't it be very worth learning? If every sentient being is capable of it, I think it's a potential wasted if it's not being learned.

[El Greco]

What's the exchange rate between alien money and euros ?

[The Don]

Originally posted by El Greco
What's the exchange rate between alien money and euros ?

I expect the alien money is pretty much tied to the dollar. The greatest percentage of sightings are in the U.S. so it'd make sense. If you're an alien you probably don't have much time for currency hedging.

So the alien/Euro rate is set to change to be even more favourable if you hold Euros. If you hold the alien money I suggest that you buy gold as a means of limiting the downside of your exposed currency position.

[Groo]

Originally posted by El Greco
What's the exchange rate between alien money and euros ?

Aaah, you got it all wrong. The exchange rate is between alien money and Europeans. Apparently they leave an amount of money when they abduct someone.

[Jeff Corey]

You must be thinking of the Tooth Fairy.

[EarthSister]

New Ager

>>How do you communicate with aliens?<<

Usually by telepathy, sometimes vocally.

>>When was the first time you communicated with an alien?<<

My earliest clear memory of an event with the aliens is at 4 years old, but I saw them from my crib as an infant.

>>Have you ever seen an alien ship?<<

Yes.

>>Have you ever been inside an alien ship?<<

Yes

>>Are aliens basically all very nice?<<

"Professional" is a better word, but most are pleasant. Some are abrasive to us due to differences in nature.

>>When will aliens decide to talk to the masses?<<

They have always talked with individuals, and have been working toward open contact with our world for a very long time. The time for open contact is based on our own way of life, nature, politics, beliefs, reactions, etc. It will happen "soon" which means "before much changes from the way they are now."

>>How can I talk to an alien?<<

First you have to have a natural connection with alien life that you are born with, because contact is never random. Then all you do is think of them and think to them. It helps to have an understanding of what is going on and who the aliens are. And it helps to have a clear mind and relaxed body. If you have contact, it is more of a discovery that you have always had it once you meet the aliens face to face.

[EarthSister]

>>How about you inquire from the aliens ways to make on-demand telepathy? Looks like the aliens know how to do it. Wouldn't it be very worth learning? If every sentient being is capable of it, I think it's a potential wasted if it's not being learned.<<

joyrex

Every intelligent being is capable of communication. Telepathy is an ability, not a trick. You can enhance what you have by concentration and practice, but the simpler the being, the simpler the communication. Our natural abilities increase with the evolution of our race, and what we can use now is still relatively primitive.

[EarthSister]

>>What's the exchange rate between alien money and euros ?<<

El Greco

None of our visiting races use forms of money.

[EarthSister]

>>I have a question, Nancy, do you play the lottery?<<

thaiboxerken

Once in a while.

[Humphreys]

Well, I don't know about anyone else but I am not totally convinced that EarthSister really is in communication with aliens.

[Psiload]

EarthSister posted:

If the aliens just landed and stepped out, they would die immediately. Everything is different world to world, temperatures, germs, chemicals of air and humidity, light, atmospheric pressure, etc.

Makes perfect sense. You're made of light, and you live on a star... of course your ears are going to pop really bad, and you're going to catch a chill when you step out of your spaceship.

Hey everybody... let's play Spot the looney ...

http://users.froggy.com.au/steveryan/Nancy.jpg

[sophia8]

Originally posted by EarthSister
>>What's the exchange rate between alien money and euros ?<<

El Greco

None of our visiting races use forms of money.
So what is their economy based on then? Every social group has to have some form of economic exhange ("Hey, you make me a good bleeblefetzer and I'll give you six new grobblits and this used verboonx - is it a deal?") even if it's purely barter or exhange of labour.
The Star Trek type of economy - everybody takes only what they need and there is enough for everybody - is nice, but it depends on very Utopian conditions (an infinite supply of materials and energy) and very Utopian people (people who don't want to own more bleeblefetzers and grobblits than anybody else on the planet). So how do the aliens run their economy, then? For that matter, how do they run their society? Is there an Earth society that you know of that is similar to the aliens'?
Also, when they speak to you, do they use English words and phrases? This could be quite important, because language shapes the way we think. The type of phrasing, the words the aliens use, could therefore tell us something of how their minds actually work. It might even give us a glimpse of their neurology.

[Tricky]

After looking at Earth Sister's site (http://www.TheProjectAtEarth.com) that she has in her sig, I am convinced that she is just having us on. She is just another game player, trying out her "dungeon" on the web to see who else she can get to play. But this is obviously D&D for beginners. The characters are very cartoonish and have the look of things that were drawn by an adolescent. Some of the "characters" wear clothes (which is odd for creatures made of light).

Okay, Nancy. The jig is up. You're outed, so you might as well drop the front and tell us how you came to create a D&D world based on aliens. I admit, it is pretty creative, albiet still a beginner's game.

And you should check out the Arts and Literature forum. Your writing talents could be put to work there.

[sackett]

Earth Sister: Do you accept donations?

[Hamish]

Originally posted by EarthSister


>>When was the first time you communicated with an alien?<<

My earliest clear memory of an event with the aliens is at 4 years old, but I saw them from my crib as an infant.



Ok, EarthSister you claim to be non-delusional and sane. You claim that you have always seen aliens. It appears to me that you cannot possibly know you are delusional since you have never been anything but delusional.

Seriously, if someone had been delusional their entire life, they would not be in a position to say that they were or were not since they have never seen both sides of the coin, so to speak.

I maintain that:

1) You are delusional
2) You always have been
3) You can not recognise the difference between a delusional state and a non delusional state because of points 1 and 2.
4) You are not qualified to make assertions about your own sanity or whether you are delusional or not due to points 1, 2 and 3.

Claiming that you are not delusional does not make it so. You are just deluded into believing that you are non-delusional.

Otherwise, prove me wrong with good, solid evidence.

Of course, if all this is just a joke, I'll apologise wholeheartedly and laugh along with everyone else.:)

[geni]

Originally posted by EarthSister
>>Do you know which star The Blue come from?<<

geni

The Blue comes from a planet and is our closest neighbor. His race is who lives inside of Mars.



Mars can't be holow. If there was a civerlisation of any complecty living on/in mars why don't we pick up any electromagnetic radition?

[EarthSister]

Sophia8

>>So what is their economy based on then? Every social group has to have some form of economic exhange ("Hey, you make me a good bleeblefetzer and I'll give you six new grobblits and this used verboonx - is it a deal?") even if it's purely barter or exhange of labour. The Star Trek type of economy - everybody takes only what they need and there is enough for everybody - is nice, but it depends on very Utopian conditions (an infinite supply of materials and energy) and very Utopian people (people who don't want to own more bleeblefetzers and grobblits than anybody else on the planet). So how do the aliens run their economy, then? For that matter, how do they run their society? Is there an Earth society that you know of that is similar to the aliens'?<<

Everybody studies and contributes. All personal needs and education are provided for, ensured by those who head their societies and worlds. They trade also, but it is not a condition of basic needs. Everybody on a world works together for the benefit of world and all the people. Nobody is denied care or left to fend for themselves. It is more accurate to say that because advanced races have reached a level of society, they do not need money. Some primitive races don't use money either, just because they take care of each other and themselves already. I don't know the details of how advanced races run their economies, but it's not the money that makes the difficulties for us, it is our systems that makes us keep score. It's not that advanced races live in a state of Utopia, it is that they apply the advanced knowledge and experience they have, and actually implement the best solutions they have to their problems. They also help each other world to world. When there is a problem, they solve it the best way they can. Not everybody always gets exactly what they want, but they get what they all want most which is peace.

Many of our social and economic problems are due to the way we live. For instance, crime and some medical and mental illnesses are directly caused by abuse, stress and destitution. When we begin to run our world better and protect and provide for all our people, more will be happier and healthier and we will have less daily global strife. When we unite our countries, help each other and share what we have, there will be enough recourses to meet everybody's needs. Who knows how long that will take, but when our world allies with our neighboring advanced races, they will be able to assist us with mediation, materials to clean up our world and technologies to run clean machines. They all got the help they needed at their own beginnings too.

>>Also, when they speak to you, do they use English words and phrases? This could be quite important, because language shapes the way we think. The type of phrasing, the words the aliens use, could therefore tell us something of how their minds actually work. It might even give us a glimpse of their neurology.<<

They speak to us in our own languages and phrases deliberately to the closest possible way we can understand between us. My husband and I speak English so they talk to us in English. Sometimes we hear them speaking in their own language with our ears, but receive what they are saying by telepathy in English.

They know how we are receiving what they say even as they are saying it, and what we think of what they say before we answer back, and if we misunderstand what they mean, they adjust the discussion, just as you and I would do for each other in a discussion, or similar to how an adult would have a discussion with a child, not that they are condescending to us, but they take care to make sure we understand each other. Because they can mentally read humans so well, it is generally easier for us to have an even sharper understanding with them than it is between humans, but only if the human can "hear" or receive the aliens when they talk by telepathy.

[EarthSister]

>>Earth Sister: Do you accept donations?<<

Sackett

No, but if I had to I might. My overhead is low for this work, and our cleaning businesses do very well. I pay for and upkeep my site myself and we use a sponsor to travel when we give talks to distant groups.

If somebody wanted to help by donating their time or materials or something, I would accept that if it would help others. I might eventually need somebody to help moderate my forums, or keep a mailing list or something. But I don't need any cash and would not accept it.

I offer a video on my site of an interview my husband and I did for a cable show. The video is owned by the owner of the production company who made it, and I bought a few of them from him to offer to groups who are considering having us do a talk. I am writing three books about my family's experiences and what we are learning from them, and if they are ever published, the publishing house will charge whatever fair market value is for them and I will get the going royalty.

Still, we speak and share information for free and always will and that is the best way for people to get exactly what they need from us.

[EarthSister]

>>Mars can't be holow. If there was a civerlisation of any complecty living on/in mars why don't we pick up any electromagnetic radition?<<

geni

I don't know what we are capable of picking up from them. But what makes you think we don't?

[geni]

Originally posted by EarthSister


geni

I don't know what we are capable of picking up from them. But what makes you think we don't?

None of our radio telescopes pick up anything from the planet. None of our landers or orbiting probes pick up anything either.

Going back to the beings made of light.
If they glow they are constantly loosing photons (particles of light). Where do they get new ones from?

[Suezoled]

You guys are all mean. And smart. I wish I were smart. I'm just mean. :(

And why do all alien races seem to be from "higher races" than the Earth folks? Certainly interplanetary travel would be a sign of intelligence, but that doesn't make them morally superior. And what's this about them believing in the One God? Who's that? Yahweh? Ed? Nameless Christian God? Neo? Nylarlathotep? Hel, Queen of Nifleheim?

Seems kinda sad that human folks on earth would rely so much on a cosmic babysitter like aliens who believe in god.

on the other hand:
Seems kinda cool that aliens can disobey the laws of thermodynamics and the like.

[Psiload]

Next on the runway, here comes Zylem!

http://www.theprojectatearth.com/Zylem.html

He's going casual in an apricot velour short sleeve pull-over with a plunging V-neck. Whether it's crossing the vastness of space at superluminal velocities, or just strolling through the mall with his life partner, Einstein, this leggy six-footer keeps comfortable in relaxed fit sans-a-belt denim slacks, and shabby-chic penny loafers by Land's End. A designer bag by Veebelbrox of Rigel 5 rounds out our sassy, gender bending buff brunette's ensemble.

Zylem shows that although you may be a genetically-advanced being from another galaxy, you can still look down to Earth!

:rolleyes:

It's just so damned silly.

[EarthSister]

geni

>>None of our radio telescopes pick up anything from the planet. None of our landers or orbiting probes pick up anything either.<<

We would have to have the equipment to detect the very kinds of energies and technologies they use. They may not use radio or magnetics for any of what they do, I don't know if they do or not. They evolved long before us and may never have used those or any of the other common things we use. We may not use electromagnetics in 1,000 years or even 100 years. Also, any technologies we have, they have better and can count our detection if they want.

Besides, the publics of Earth are not told everything; we do not know everything our leaders know about who lives inside Mars.

>>Going back to the beings made of light.
If they glow they are constantly loosing photons (particles of light). Where do they get new ones from?<<

Zar's body does not cast a shadow or brightness. He does not light up a dark room by being there, but he can if he wants to. I don't know if his body regenerates similar to ours, but I do know that all races of people have a lifespan natural their own race and grow old and die pretty much the same way we do.

[Psiload]

Originally posted by EarthSister
geni

>>None of our radio telescopes pick up anything from the planet. None of our landers or orbiting probes pick up anything either.<<

We would have to have the equipment to detect the very kinds of energies and technologies they use. They may not use radio or magnetics for any of what they do, I don't know if they do or not. They evolved long before us and may never have used those or any of the other common things we use. We may not use electromagnetics in 1,000 years or even 100 years. Also, any technologies we have, they have better and can count our detection if they want.

Besides, the publics of Earth are not told everything; we do not know everything our leaders know about who lives inside Mars.

>>Going back to the beings made of light.
If they glow they are constantly loosing photons (particles of light). Where do they get new ones from?<<

Zar's body does not cast a shadow or brightness. He does not light up a dark room by being there, but he can if he wants to. I don't know if his body regenerates similar to ours, but I do know that all races of people have a lifespan natural their own race and grow old and die pretty much the same way we do.

EarthSister,

Your "alien" friends certainly sound like they are incredibly advanced, both evolutionary, and technologically. It also seems that they are very compassionate, capable, and benevolent.

Why is it that squash down our wheatfields when there are people starving on this planet?

All of their amazing capabilities, and all they do is trample our crops, probe our butts, kill our cattle, and carry on 10 + years worth of telepathic conversations with the owners of a small janitorial services company?

Seems like they're more constructive things they could be doing for our wayward, feeble race, besides taking the occassional few of us on joy rides in their spaceships...

just sayin'

[EarthSister]

Suezoled

>>And why do all alien races seem to be from "higher races" than the Earth folks? Certainly interplanetary travel would be a sign of intelligence, but that doesn't make them morally superior.<<

"Advanced Immorality" is an oxymoron, but you are right. It is about demonstrating over evolution all the things that add up to morality, such as responsibility, integrity, consideration for all life, success in peace, etc. If a race does not work toward peace, they will not get very far very fast. The more direct they are at their goals, the faster they will advance. All our visiting races are much further advanced than we are, hundreds of thousands, to millions to billions of years evolved. Most other intelligent races of people are. There are some other races less evolved than we are but not a lot and they can't get here yet.

There is an order to space, and a primitive, hostile race who gains too much technology ahead of its responsibility is not allowed advanced interplanetary travel, or else they would do out there what they do at home. We have just begun to gain travel- and that is one of the things that makes it time for the other races to clue us in.

>>And what's this about them believing in the One God? Who's that? Yahweh? Ed? Nameless Christian God? Neo? Nylarlathotep? Hel, Queen of Nifleheim?<<

Whatever you call God does not matter. But don't confuse dogma with God, they are not the same thing.

[Wolverine]

Originally posted by EarthSister
We would have to have the equipment to detect the very kinds of energies and technologies they use. They may not use radio or magnetics for any of what they do, I don't know if they do or not.
...
Also, any technologies we have, they have better and can count our detection if they want.

If you don't specifically know what sorts of "energies or technologies" they allegedly use:

1) how can you conclude that our equipment would not be able to detect them on Mars...

...and...

2) that they have the ability to evade detection?

[Starrman]

Nancy,

Instead of all the crayon drawings on your web site, could you please snap a picture of one of the aliens and post it for the forum to see? How about a recording of the 'audible' voices you hear.

Thanks,
Jeff

[EarthSister]

Psiload

I just love your commentary on Zylem, such a good laugh, thank you very much.

>>Your "alien" friends certainly sound like they are incredibly advanced, both evolutionary, and technologically. It also seems that they are very compassionate, capable, and benevolent.<<

They are the best of the best of their races, the representatives and diplomats. They were not individually all so capable or motivated but are now all working together under one organization, sharing the best methods and abilities for working with humans.

>>Why is it that squash down our wheatfields when there are people starving on this planet?<<

There is no global loss of food because of authentic crop formations. The vegetations they put them are the best for the job. Don't worry, the aliens don't even break the stalks and they grow right back up quickly- unless the place gets trampled by the media and scientists, or the farmers plow them out to keep all those people away.

Each authentic alien crop formation is a coded message, and each tells a piece of the story of visitation and intention. We have them cataloged and will decipher them to tell a valuable history that nobody on Earth will be able to hide or deny to anybody else on Earth. The codes are carefully placed and interlinked. All of the counterfeit formations created on land and paper by special interest groups and their diabolical reasons for creating them will be apparent in the history as well.

>>All of their amazing capabilities, and all they do is trample our crops, probe our butts, kill our cattle, and carry on 10 + years worth of telepathic conversations with the owners of a small janitorial services company?<<

Don't confuse disinformation with true information.

>>Seems like they're more constructive things they could be doing for our wayward, feeble race, besides taking the occassional few of us on joy rides in their spaceships...<<

I understand your position. The alien races want to make open contact with our world so they can open communication and start helping us, but our leading govts refuse the aliens' offers and spread propaganda to help keep the publics afraid, confused and in disbelief. The military threat to the aliens is against the aliens and the individual humans the aliens work with. When the aliens show up, the military can move in and do something that the uninformed will blame on the aliens.

All the aliens can do is continue to increase sightings and spread more true information about themselves through the publics.

[EarthSister]

>>If you don't specifically know what sorts of "energies or technologies" they allegedly use:

1) how can you conclude that our equipment would not be able to detect them on Mars...

...and...

2) that they have the ability to evade detection?<<

Wolverine

I have been told by the aliens in general terms some of the many different energies and technologies they use to travel with. I do not know what the race who lives in Mars uses, or if they emit any of those from Mars that we would be able to detect with our equipment. I do know that our leading govts (not the public govts) know that there is a race of people living inside of Mars. I have been told by the aliens and witnessed that they have technologies to counter every kind of detection device we have, and that they use many different ones that we don't have any devices of detection for.

I do not know if the people in Mars use any energies or technologies that we can detect with our equipment, except for when their crafts show up on our radar, but I would suspect that they probably do. The govts on Earth that know there is an alien race inside of Mars, do not tell the rest of our world.

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Starrman
Nancy,

Instead of all the crayon drawings on your web site, could you please snap a picture of one of the aliens and post it for the forum to see?
Anyone else notice how much Nancy's cartoon aliens look somewhat elven? David Brin wrote an excellent sci-fi short story called Those Eyes (http://www.davidbrin.com/thoseeyes1.html) about this.

The gist is that people have always had a need to believe in supernatural beings. Space aliens fill very much the same notch as elves did years ago. They even look alike.

[geni]

Originally posted by EarthSister

Zar's body does not cast a shadow or brightness. He does not light up a dark room by being there, but he can if he wants to. I don't know if his body regenerates similar to ours, but I do know that all races of people have a lifespan natural their own race and grow old and die pretty much the same way we do.

Since photons don't interact with each other what hold him together? why don't the photons just shoot off as the speed of light?

[thaiboxerken]

Originally posted by EarthSister
>>I have a question, Nancy, do you play the lottery?<<

thaiboxerken

Once in a while.

So you really would like a million dollars without working for it. Well, the Randi Million is a sure thing for you if you simply show the JREF your alien.

[DickK]

EarthSister, may I ask what your take on the Martian Cydonia formations is?

[thaiboxerken]

There is no global loss of food because of authentic crop formations. The vegetations they put them are the best for the job. Don't worry, the aliens don't even break the stalks and they grow right back up quickly- unless the place gets trampled by the media and scientists, or the farmers plow them out to keep all those people away.

This is false, all crop circle formations result in the loss of product which costs the farmer a lot of money. It also stops that crop from being harveted. You should research your facts before you fabricate stories, it would make your lie more believable.

Don't confuse disinformation with true information.

You want us to believe your lies, and not others, of course.



All the aliens can do is continue to increase sightings and spread more true information about themselves through the publics.

No, they can actually show up for scientists to verify. You really have no faith in the human ability to accept evidence. Your type is common among UFO believers, they always claim that society can't handle the truth. It's just another evasion.

[Wolverine]

Originally posted by EarthSister
I have been told by the aliens in general terms some of the many different energies and technologies they use to travel with.

Could you describe these please? (As specifically as possible, thanks.)

[Aussie Thinker]

Lads….

Can you believe we have wasted over 100 posts on this idiot.

We must be really starved for entertainment.

She looks better than your local UFO looney but her stories are pathetic.

Did any of you see those crayon drawings of the aliens ?? My 9 YO Daughter could do better. Couldn’t someone pop out a digital camera ?

The only REAL photos on the whole site are of her pets and her (I’m still tossing over who is in charge).. that Cat looks pretty smart.. and I bet HE doesn’t see Aliens !

[Psiload]

Originally posted by EarthSister
Psiload

I just love your commentary on Zylem, such a good laugh, thank you very much.

>>Your "alien" friends certainly sound like they are incredibly advanced, both evolutionary, and technologically. It also seems that they are very compassionate, capable, and benevolent.<<

They are the best of the best of their races, the representatives and diplomats. They were not individually all so capable or motivated but are now all working together under one organization, sharing the best methods and abilities for working with humans.

>>Why is it that squash down our wheatfields when there are people starving on this planet?<<

There is no global loss of food because of authentic crop formations. The vegetations they put them are the best for the job. Don't worry, the aliens don't even break the stalks and they grow right back up quickly- unless the place gets trampled by the media and scientists, or the farmers plow them out to keep all those people away.

Each authentic alien crop formation is a coded message, and each tells a piece of the story of visitation and intention. We have them cataloged and will decipher them to tell a valuable history that nobody on Earth will be able to hide or deny to anybody else on Earth. The codes are carefully placed and interlinked. All of the counterfeit formations created on land and paper by special interest groups and their diabolical reasons for creating them will be apparent in the history as well.

>>All of their amazing capabilities, and all they do is trample our crops, probe our butts, kill our cattle, and carry on 10 + years worth of telepathic conversations with the owners of a small janitorial services company?<<

Don't confuse disinformation with true information.

>>Seems like they're more constructive things they could be doing for our wayward, feeble race, besides taking the occassional few of us on joy rides in their spaceships...<<

I understand your position. The alien races want to make open contact with our world so they can open communication and start helping us, but our leading govts refuse the aliens' offers and spread propaganda to help keep the publics afraid, confused and in disbelief. The military threat to the aliens is against the aliens and the individual humans the aliens work with. When the aliens show up, the military can move in and do something that the uninformed will blame on the aliens.

All the aliens can do is continue to increase sightings and spread more true information about themselves through the publics.

Bullsh*t.

Bullsh*t, bullsh*t, bullsh*t. Oh yeah, and one more thing...

Bullsh*t.

The aliens want to make open contact, but the guv'mint is preventing them?...

Bullsh*t.

A race of aliens that has supposedly mastered superluminal intersteller space travel is being prevented from communicating with the inhabitants of Earth by the U.S. goverment? The same government has proven themselves to be incapable of suppressing incidences as mundane as the POTUS getting a hummer from an intern?

A super advanced alien race that can travel across the universe, and the best method of communication they can come up with is trampling fancy patterns into cornfields? Why don't they broadcast a message across space? Hell we here on Earth have been doing it for nearly what? Fifty years now? Why don't they just tap into our communication systems... radio, television, internet? Hell, why don't they try spraypainting their 'tags' onto bridge overpasses? Even preadolescent Earth hooligans have realized how effective a media that can be. Trampling our crops... that's the best they can come up with?

Bullsh*t

Military threat? Military threat? A bunch of guys with planes that have barely just broken the speed of sound, are indimidating to a race of aliens that are capable of violating the laws of physics whenever they feel like it? What's that term again? Oh yeah...

Bullsh*t.

Sorry, your story just doesn't even begin to pass the sniff test. It seems much more like a logically hole-riddled product of someone's imagination, rather than a plausible alien visitation scenario. It comes across as science fiction... and bad science fiction at that. In a word...

Bullsh*t.

[hammegk]

LOL, Sis. See the n.c.i. part of my sig.

BTW, have any of these sly lads fessed up that "light" is indeed very specific in wavelengths involved for specific (chemical) elements?

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by Aussie Thinker
Lads….

Can you believe we have wasted over 100 posts on this idiot.

We must be really starved for entertainment.


what are you talking about? i get off on loonies, so i've been masturbating to this thread for hours.

[geni]

Originally posted by Aussie Thinker
Lads….

Can you believe we have wasted over 100 posts on this idiot.

We must be really starved for entertainment.



You have seen tttwnd?

[EarthSister]

>>Instead of all the crayon drawings on your web site, could you please snap a picture of one of the aliens and post it for the forum to see? How about a recording of the 'audible' voices you hear.<<

Jeff

We have no physical evidence that we could show you that could prove our claims to you. Even a photograph would not prove anything to you. If I showed you a photo of my alien contacts, and you believed that it was authentic, you would be attacked by others as I am for being so gullible. The evidence would be taken away from me, and used to publicly declare me a proven fake. If it was ever proven authentic by any authority, it would be declared that authority was tricked and/or that I had stolen it anyway, and whatever else to discredit me. The aliens would never give us or any individual that kind of physical evidence. That would be like painting a target on our foreheads, take us away from the work we are meant to do, and it would not prove anything you might hope it would. Instead, with no evidence we are free to speak as no threat to those who would stop us. It is the same with their voices, if you heard a recording of them, you would think it could be anything, you would never believe it was of alien voices, and you shouldn't. People who claim to have that kind of personal evidence are lying, and it's apparent.

It doesn't matter that certain people don't believe us. It only matters that we are free to help others who have personal contact. The aliens take care of all of the evidence of themselves. They have shown themselves to certain members of our families and some of our friends, but have not given them any physical evidence to show others either.

[Loki]

EarthSister,

If I showed you a photo of my alien contacts, and you believed that it was authentic, you would be attacked by others as I am for being so gullible
I'll take that chance. I'll keep quiet. You can PM me a photo, and I promise not to show it to anyone else (without your permission).

[Tricky]

Come ON, guys! EarthSister is taking the p!ss. This is just an elaborate joke on her part. I am extremely skeptical that anyone would take her "coloring book" website seriously.

Ha ha, Nancy. You got a lot of people to say bad words. You successfully misled a bunch of skeptics. Congrats. Now 'fess up.

[Iamme]

Hi again, EarthSister. I feel like you are the equivalent of Jesus (the reveler of God), and we are your disciples. That said, I have always taken issue with the New Testament of the Bible, from the standpoint that Jesus, who claimed to be not only a reveler of God, but God himself, let alot go unsaid. If I was a disciple of his back then, I would have asked lot more questions than we got answers for, from him, so I could pass it on for the benefit of humanity.

You are like the Jesus. So tell me; if you know as much as you do about them, and why they are doing what they are doing, and the fact that you know that some of the alien civilizations who have visited us are billions of years ahead of us, and you are able to communicate with them, and you have been on their ships......then how come you can't tell us exactly what gravity is? Don't THEY know either? Haven't you bothered to ask them? When you were in their ship; didn't you bother to ask them what that stuff that looked like steel really was made of? Didn't you think to ask them about their propulsion system which allowed them to come here? Did you ask them how LONG it takes for them to get here, considering the nearest star cluster is almost 5 light years (or a tad less than 30 trillion miles) away? Didn't you ask them what the meaning of life is? (For earthlings, we are to reproduce, follow some God, live by this God's ordinances so that we ourselves can die and enter the 'plane' of eternity/immortality).

That's all I will bog you down with for now. Thanks for your reply, Nancy.

[BTox]

Dang, my joke alien thread got hijacked by a joker. :p

[thaiboxerken]

Have you noticed how she has acknowledged that her story makes absolutely no sense?

And then she keeps going on with it!

I think she is just a failed Sci-Fi writer looking for attention. Or, maybe she has been working too long with cleaning agents.

[EarthSister]

>>Since photons don't interact with each other what hold him together? why don't the photons just shoot off as the speed of light?<<

I don't know, geni.

[ImpyTimpy]

Holy sh*t guys, I just got contacted by the FendiMendiPendi Order of the Aliens, they're one of the 1000 races of super super (not regular super! they hate to be called regular super, unleaded's alright but regular super really rubs them the wrong way) aliens. They told me, through special telepathic means that only other "special" people are aware of, that Earth Sister is a government lacky. She's trying to spread disinformation about this superior race. Once the government comes clean they will reveal themselves to the rest of you. Peace on earth will reign supreme, economy will be abolished and everyone will live according to their means. They realise this sounds like communism but fellow skeptics, hear me and them out! It's far from communism, it only sounds and looks exactly like it but it's far from it.

I would give some proof but the government and their secret military would shut me down. Only when you become one of the "special" chosen few, you will understand what I mean.

Well I guess I'll just have to contend myself with writing a book about this and selling it... After all, I have needs and they include making money off the gullible.

[ImpyTimpy]

Originally posted by EarthSister
>>Since photons don't interact with each other what hold him together? why don't the photons just shoot off as the speed of light?<<

I don't know, geni.

Geni, it's even better then that, if her aliens were made out of light that somehow stuck together you wouldn't see them.

[EarthSister]

>>LOL, Sis. See the n.c.i. part of my sig.

BTW, have any of these sly lads fessed up that "light" is indeed very specific in wavelengths involved for specific (chemical) elements?

Thank you, hammegk. And no, but that's okay.

[Iamme]

Now I've really come to wonder if NASA knows already what Mars is about, and is sending the latest Explorer mission there to see if it's possible that the underground aliens there have pushed up face sculptures from below. We'll never know, till we get there...WILL we?!

[WildCat]

Originally posted by BTox
Dang, my joke alien thread got hijacked by a joker. :p
Don't worry about it BTox. It's a 5 star thread now! :p

[WildCat]

Now we know what really made that last Mars spacecraft crash. I never believed that lame "we punched in English instead of metric numbers" excuse.

[EdipisReks]

AAAAHHHHAHAHAHGHGHGH CTHULHU ATE MY BRAIN.

[Ed]

I guess I am missing something. The aliens want to contact us but cannot ... why?

[EarthSister]

lamme

>>Hi again, EarthSister. I feel like you are the equivalent of Jesus (the reveler of God), and we are your disciples. That said, I have always taken issue with the New Testament of the Bible, from the standpoint that Jesus, who claimed to be not only a reveler of God, but God himself, let alot go unsaid. If I was a disciple of his back then, I would have asked lot more questions than we got answers for, from him, so I could pass it on for the benefit of humanity.<<

I hope you are kidding me, but that is noble of you and I encourage you.

>>You are like the Jesus.<<

Not at all, but I think everybody should stand up for what they believe in.

>>So tell me; if you know as much as you do about them, and why they are doing what they are doing, and the fact that you know that some of the alien civilizations who have visited us are billions of years ahead of us, and you are able to communicate with them, and you have been on their ships......then how come you can't tell us exactly what gravity is? Don't THEY know either? Haven't you bothered to ask them?<<

If I felt I needed to know that, I would study what our scientists think about it and then maybe ask my alien contacts if that was at all accurate, because it would take up an awful lot of time and work for somebody to teach me all about it, more time than the aliens have to spend with me on something I don't even need to know for my work with them. You probably could not realize how busy they are or how direct they are with their human contacts. I think that the nature of gravity would be a question for the scientist alien Experiencers to ask their own alien contacts. I would probably not understand the first thing about it, and I would not even know what questions to ask. Although, you've got me thinking now.

>>When you were in their ship; didn't you bother to ask them what that stuff that looked like steel really was made of? Didn't you think to ask them about their propulsion system which allowed them to come here? Did you ask them how LONG it takes for them to get here, considering the nearest star cluster is almost 5 light years (or a tad less than 30 trillion miles) away? Didn't you ask them what the meaning of life is? (For earthlings, we are to reproduce, follow some God, live by this God's ordinances so that we ourselves can die and enter the 'plane' of eternity/immortality).<<

Your mind is broad, lamme. Broader than mine. I have not asked what the steel-looking stuff of their crafts is made of but they have told us that their worlds' elements are different world to world, and some worlds share some same elements and some are unique. I don't think we have any names on Earth for any elements we don't already know about, so they could not tell me them. But I have asked them about their propulsion systems and they gave me some information on some of them, which I will post as I catch up...

The average length in earth time that it takes our visiting races to get here is about two weeks.

I did not ask them what the meaning of life is, but I have gathered a lot of how they think of it from my experiences with them and have adopted some of it from them myself. It's hard to put into words, and I have already heard some great human philosophies on it. We don't need the aliens tell us about it.

[ImpyTimpy]

Originally posted by Ed
I guess I am missing something. The aliens want to contact us but cannot ... why?

Because the government won't let them? man, you're so blind to the truth dude. Hopefully we have people like Earth Sister here who aren't afraid to stand up and challenge the might of the military to spread the word.

Sheesh.. some skeptic you are...

:p

[Aussie Thinker]

Originally posted by EarthSister
>>Instead of all the crayon drawings on your web site, could you please snap a picture of one of the aliens and post it for the forum to see? How about a recording of the 'audible' voices you hear.<<

Jeff

We have no physical evidence that we could show you that could prove our claims to you. Even a photograph would not prove anything to you. If I showed you a photo of my alien contacts, and you believed that it was authentic, you would be attacked by others as I am for being so gullible. The evidence would be taken away from me, and used to publicly declare me a proven fake. If it was ever proven authentic by any authority, it would be declared that authority was tricked and/or that I had stolen it anyway, and whatever else to discredit me. The aliens would never give us or any individual that kind of physical evidence. That would be like painting a target on our foreheads, take us away from the work we are meant to do, and it would not prove anything you might hope it would. Instead, with no evidence we are free to speak as no threat to those who would stop us. It is the same with their voices, if you heard a recording of them, you would think it could be anything, you would never believe it was of alien voices, and you shouldn't. People who claim to have that kind of personal evidence are lying, and it's apparent.

It doesn't matter that certain people don't believe us. It only matters that we are free to help others who have personal contact. The aliens take care of all of the evidence of themselves. They have shown themselves to certain members of our families and some of our friends, but have not given them any physical evidence to show others either.

Don’t BS us Sister.

Just post a photograph..

Do you have one anyway..

Oh of course you don’t..

Note to Stephen..

stop banging your head against the brick wall of idiocy
stop banging your head against the brick wall of idiocy
stop banging your head against the brick wall of idiocy
stop banging your head against the brick wall of idiocy
stop banging your head against the brick wall of idiocy
stop banging your head against the brick wall of idiocy
stop banging your head against the brick wall of idiocy

[Theodore Kurita]

Originally posted by EdipisReks
AAAAHHHHAHAHAHGHGHGH CTHULHU ATE MY BRAIN.


:jaw:




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I guess it was for the better...;)

[Theodore Kurita]

Originally posted by EarthSister
lamme

>>Hi again, EarthSister. I feel like you are the equivalent of Jesus (the reveler of God), and we are your disciples. That said, I have always taken issue with the New Testament of the Bible, from the standpoint that Jesus, who claimed to be not only a reveler of God, but God himself, let alot go unsaid. If I was a disciple of his back then, I would have asked lot more questions than we got answers for, from him, so I could pass it on for the benefit of humanity.<<

I hope you are kidding me, but that is noble of you and I encourage you.

>>You are like the Jesus.<<

Not at all, but I think everybody should stand up for what they believe in.

>>So tell me; if you know as much as you do about them, and why they are doing what they are doing, and the fact that you know that some of the alien civilizations who have visited us are billions of years ahead of us, and you are able to communicate with them, and you have been on their ships......then how come you can't tell us exactly what gravity is? Don't THEY know either? Haven't you bothered to ask them?<<

If I felt I needed to know that, I would study what our scientists think about it and then maybe ask my alien contacts if that was at all accurate, because it would take up an awful lot of time and work for somebody to teach me all about it, more time than the aliens have to spend with me on something I don't even need to know for my work with them. You probably could not realize how busy they are or how direct they are with their human contacts. I think that the nature of gravity would be a question for the scientist alien Experiencers to ask their own alien contacts. I would probably not understand the first thing about it, and I would not even know what questions to ask. Although, you've got me thinking now.

>>When you were in their ship; didn't you bother to ask them what that stuff that looked like steel really was made of? Didn't you think to ask them about their propulsion system which allowed them to come here? Did you ask them how LONG it takes for them to get here, considering the nearest star cluster is almost 5 light years (or a tad less than 30 trillion miles) away? Didn't you ask them what the meaning of life is? (For earthlings, we are to reproduce, follow some God, live by this God's ordinances so that we ourselves can die and enter the 'plane' of eternity/immortality).<<

Your mind is broad, lamme. Broader than mine. I have not asked what the steel-looking stuff of their crafts is made of but they have told us that their worlds' elements are different world to world, and some worlds share some same elements and some are unique. I don't think we have any names on Earth for any elements we don't already know about, so they could not tell me them. But I have asked them about their propulsion systems and they gave me some information on some of them, which I will post as I catch up...

The average length in earth time that it takes our visiting races to get here is about two weeks.

I did not ask them what the meaning of life is, but I have gathered a lot of how they think of it from my experiences with them and have adopted some of it from them myself. It's hard to put into words, and I have already heard some great human philosophies on it. We don't need the aliens tell us about it.


Sorry... I just have to get this out of my system after reading this...


:bs:
:hb:
:brk:

after letting all that emotion out... I have to ask this...

:tr:

[thaiboxerken]

BTW, have any of these sly lads fessed up that "light" is indeed very specific in wavelengths involved for specific (chemical) elements?

Thank you, hammegk. And no, but that's okay.

Hammegk is misrepresenting facts, me thinks. Light wavelenths are specific when filtered through various elements and compositions. That is a far cry from saying that light consists of different elements.

[thaiboxerken]

Originally posted by EarthSister


The average length in earth time that it takes our visiting races to get here is about two weeks.

How did they get over the whole mass-gain thing? I mean, as an object approaches the speed of light, it gains mass. Maybe you didn't learn that in HS.

[geni]

Originally posted by EarthSister
Your mind is broad, lamme. Broader than mine. I have not asked what the steel-looking stuff of their crafts is made of but they have told us that their worlds' elements are different world to world, and some worlds share some same elements and some are unique. I don't think we have any names on Earth for any elements we don't already know about, so they could not tell me them.

Due to the way amtos are constructed we know every posible element up too about 110. After that they have such short half lives (much less than a second) that you could not build any from them.
If there is no name for the element just ask for the atomic number and we will know what it is.

[Suezoled]

Originally posted by Psiload


Bullsh*t.

Bullsh*t, bullsh*t, bullsh*t. Oh yeah, and one more thing...

Bullsh*t.

The aliens want to make open contact, but the guv'mint is preventing them?...

Bullsh*t.

(snipped for space)

Bullsh*t.

Well said. All of it. Too bad it won't likely enlighten the enlightener.

[Tricky]

Originally posted by WildCat
Now we know what really made that last Mars spacecraft crash. I never believed that lame "we punched in English instead of metric numbers" excuse.
Hey! It could happen.

According to a September safety hearing, British brain surgeon Donald Campbell, 54, crashed his twin-engine plane into a house (he survived, with head injuries) when he ran out of fuel because he miscalculated when converting "gallons" to "liters" (Shoreham, England). (http://www.newsoftheweird.com/archive/nw031116.html)

[hammegk]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken

Hammegk is misrepresenting facts, me thinks.
TBK = wrong, as usual.

If you ever find something you understand, please advise.

[Suezoled]

Originally posted by EarthSister
Suezoled

>>And why do all alien races seem to be from "higher races" than the Earth folks? Certainly interplanetary travel would be a sign of intelligence, but that doesn't make them morally superior.<<

"Advanced Immorality" is an oxymoron, but you are right. It is about demonstrating over evolution all the things that add up to morality, such as responsibility, integrity, consideration for all life, success in peace, etc. If a race does not work toward peace, they will not get very far very fast. The more direct they are at their goals, the faster they will advance. All our visiting races are much further advanced than we are, hundreds of thousands, to millions to billions of years evolved. Most other intelligent races of people are. There are some other races less evolved than we are but not a lot and they can't get here yet.

Uh huh. Same question: since they're so advanced, why can't they get around our "primitive" governments? How can the governments have worked so long, for generations, despite revolutions and changes of leadership (dictatorship, democracy, etc), to keep these aliens from getting their message across? And if they are so very very advanced because they're direct, how come they're doing a hokey pokey and dancing around the fringes, I mean, since the direct route is the best? And why aren't we visited, then, by hostile aliens? Only the good ones want to mess with our heads? How good can they be, then?

"Advanced Immortality" is your term, anthropomorphic planetary interpretation female, not mine.

There is an order to space, and a primitive, hostile race who gains too much technology ahead of its responsibility is not allowed advanced interplanetary travel, or else they would do out there what they do at home. We have just begun to gain travel- and that is one of the things that makes it time for the other races to clue us in.

>>And what's this about them believing in the One God? Who's that? Yahweh? Ed? Nameless Christian God? Neo? Nylarlathotep? Hel, Queen of Nifleheim?<<

Whatever you call God does not matter. But don't confuse dogma with God, they are not the same thing.

But, but, isn't god the source of dogma? Wait a minute.... I think you're insulting Queen Hel. INFIDEL. May you freeze slowly in the depths of arctic wasteland when Hel petitions for your soul upon death. Unless, of course, you're a penguin or you're chosen for Valhalla.

[Tricky]

Originally posted by Tricky

Anyone else notice how much Nancy's cartoon aliens look somewhat elven? David Brin wrote an excellent sci-fi short story called Those Eyes (http://www.davidbrin.com/thoseeyes1.html) about this.

The gist is that people have always had a need to believe in supernatural beings. Space aliens fill very much the same notch as elves did years ago. They even look alike.
Some quotes from that story. (The premise is that he's a late night talk show host and the UFO loonies are calling in.)

(Copyright © 1991 by David Brin)
***
"... Yeah, sure. The same could apply to UFOs, if you insist.
"But while SETI has to sift a vast cosmos for radio sources -- a real case of hunting needles in haystacks -- it's harder to explain the absence of decent evidence for flying saucers on Earth. It's a small planet, after all. If ETs have been mucking around here as long for as some folks say, isn't it funny they never dropped any clear-cut alien artifacts for us to examine? Say, the Martian equivalent of a Coke bottle?"
***
" ... Oh yes? It's being kept top secret? Okay, here's a second question. Just who do you suppose has been discretely studying the wreckage all this time?
"... Government engineers. Uh-huh. Have you ever met an engineer, pal? They're not faceless drones like in stupid some secret-agent movie. At least most aren't. They're intelligent Americans like you and me, with wives and husbands and kids.
"How many thousands of people would've worked on that alien ship since forty-eight? Picture these retired coots, playing golf, puttering in the garage, running Rotary fundraisers .... and all this time repressing the urge to blab the story of the century?
"All of 'em? In today's America? Come on, friend. Let's put aside this Hangar Eighteen crap and get back to UFOs, where at least there's something worth arguing about!"
***
.
"Ooh, they taught ancient Egyptians to build pyramids! And golly, they had some of my own ancestors scratch stick figures on a stony plateau in Peru! To help spaceships find landing pads, right? I guess the notion's barely plausible, till you ask... why?
"Why would anyone want such ridiculous 'landing pads,' when they could've had much better? Why not open a small trade college and teach our ancestors to pour cement? A few electronics classes and we could've made arc lamps and radar to guide their saucers through anything from rain to locusts!
"... What? They were here to help us? Well thanks a lot, you alien gods you! Thanks for neglecting to mention flush toilets, printing presses, democracy, or the germ theory of disease! Or ecology, leaving us to ruin half the planet before finally catching on! Hell, if someone had just shown us how to make simple glass lenses, we could've done the rest. How much ignorance and misery we'd have escaped!
"You'd credit human innovations like architecture and poetry, physics and empathy, to aliens? ... Really? ... Well I say you insult our poor foremothers and dads, who crawled from the muck, battling superstition and ignorance every step of the way, until we may at last be ready to clean up our act and look the universe in the eye. No, friend. If there were ancient astronauts, we owe them nada, zip, nothing!"
***
"But there's a second, even better answer to this whole UFO business.
"Let's admit a slim chance some of these case histories might actually be sightings of little silvery guys riding spaceships. My reply? We can still rule out contact with Intelligent Life!
"Look at their behavior! Buzzing truck drivers, mutilating farm animals, trampling corn fields, kidnapping people to stick needles in their brains... is this any way for intelligent beings to act?"
"It is the kind of activity you'd expect from meddlesome lunatics, not mature guests visiting our star system. I don't care how much smarter they are supposed to be, or how much more spiritually elevated. A high-IQ vandal in my home is still a vandal!"

***
"Worst of all, if these UFO guys really do exist -- they're refusing to make contact!
"...What? You say they're afraid of us? We, who barely made it to our measly little moon, and couldn't go back now if we tried? We frighten star aliens? Right. And I'm terrified of turtles in the zoo!"
***
"What? ... Hmm. Now that you mention it, that puts a new spin on things. It does seem strange that saucer folk are so often depicted in certain ways. Smooth, arching foreheads. Big eyes. Long, meddling fingers.
"It should've sounded familiar. Look at their supposed behavior -- playing tricks, offering mystic half-truths, never looking honest folk in the eyes...
"Yes ma'am, I think you've hit on something. Saucer people are elves!"
***

[Psiload]

Originally posted by Tricky

Some quotes from that story. (The premise is that he's a late night talk show host and the UFO loonies are calling in.)


" ... Oh yes? It's being kept top secret? Okay, here's a second question. Just who do you suppose has been discretely studying the wreckage all this time? "... Government engineers. Uh-huh. Have you ever met an engineer, pal? They're not faceless drones like in stupid some secret-agent movie. At least most aren't. They're intelligent Americans like you and me, with wives and husbands and kids."

...snipped for brevity...

That touches upon something that has always ticked me off about the claims made by the UFO kooks of EarthSister's ilk... the evil "military" cover-ups, and conspiricies. Hey, I spent some time in the military. It's dowright insulting when military personnel are portrayed as some kind of nameless, faceless, heartless drones operating under the control of some sort of hive mentality. I met a lot of good people in the military. They had bills to pay, children to hug, dogs to pet, etc... just like anyone else.

I'm sure that EarthSister is completely oblivious to the idea that she may actually be insulting someone's father, sister, son, Uncle Morty, etc... when she claims that "the military" is preventing the aliens from leading us down the path to utopia. I'm sure she pictures "the military", and "the government" as a horde of generic storybook bad guys. Let me tell you something, EarthSister... these people love their children too.

[DickK]

Get a grip Psiload, I don't think EarthSister would imply all military personnel are heartless drones, just the ones that ride in the Black Helicopters.

:r: :r:

[Psiload]

Originally posted by DickK
Get a grip Psiload, I don't think EarthSister would imply all military personnel are heartless drones, just the ones that ride in the Black Helicopters.

:r: :r:

Those guys aren't military, they're Illuminati... or Freemasons. Same difference.

[Demigorgon]

EarthSister -

On your website you say Japan was chosen for first contact becuase of their favorable demeanor, becuase they are a peaceful nation, and haven't been involved in any wars in some time. You also state that they are a strong stable nation that can withstand oposition from others.

The only reason Japan is peaceful is because they surrendered to the Allies in WWII. And when it comes to military countries that can defend themselves, they're not really ranked up there too high. What if North Korea or China decide they don't like the aliens and decide to sink the entire island of Japan when contact happens?

But I'm sure the council has already made provisions for this.

[Suezoled]

Originally posted by Demigorgon
EarthSister -

On your website you say Japan was chosen for first contact becuase of their favorable demeanor, becuase they are a peaceful nation, and haven't been involved in any wars in some time. You also state that they are a strong stable nation that can withstand oposition from others.

The only reason Japan is peaceful is because they surrendered to the Allies in WWII. And when it comes to military countries that can defend themselves, they're not really ranked up there too high. What if North Korea or China decide they don't like the aliens and decide to sink the entire island of Japan when contact happens?

But I'm sure the council has already made provisions for this.

actually, just a quick note: having been to Japan myself, had several Japanese classmates, and some wonderful language sensei (to whom I am not doing my lessons from them credit), and meaning no disrespect to Raja-senpai, Kimpatsu-san, or anyone else associated with Japan, its culture, language, etc, please let me say: the aliens are not choosing wisely in their debut nation. The Japanese are way up there on perversion, porn, and real life sexual harassment. Women and girls are regarded as harmless (and even second rate in several things like job status). Women in that nation are starving themselves to be thin. (side note: when I went to the gym, I was not allowed to use the free weights; they were over in the men's section and NO WOMAN was allowed to stray over to them. I was considered incredible for being able to run 2 miles in 18 minutes on their treadmill). The suicide rate for teens is still the subject of several comics. This is the same country that has the saying "the nail that sticks from the board must be hammered down."

Now, I love Japan and the visit there was great; the people were kind, the food nice, the travel exciting, and did I mention the people were kind? But take it with a grain of salt, too, that fact that Japan never did apologize, or even teach in school, the full effects of what they did to the Chinese, Koreans, and Indians durring WWII.

Well, maybe this note wasn't so quick.

[thaiboxerken]

Originally posted by hammegk

TBK = wrong, as usual.

If you ever find something you understand, please advise.

No, you are wrong. Even if you were right, it still doesn't change the fact that light is not made up of "all the elements" or "different elements".

Why do you insist on egging this insane girl on in her fantasy?

[thaiboxerken]

Originally posted by Demigorgon

And when it comes to military countries that can defend themselves, they're not really ranked up there too high. What if North Korea or China decide they don't like the aliens and decide to sink the entire island of Japan when contact happens?

But I'm sure the council has already made provisions for this.

Yes, Japan has Godzilla!! They didn't use Godzilla in WWII because he didn't exist yet. WWII created Godzilla, and now that is Japan's secret weapon. Also, the aliens have taught the Japanese Ninja and Samurai special alien martial arts that can deflect bullets and redirect large missles. The Japanese forces have also been outfitted with light-sabers to be only used when the aliens make official contact. Of course there is no evidence for this, as it's all top-secret. I'm in Japan, though, so I know.

[thaiboxerken]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Suezoled

Women and girls are regarded as harmless (and even second rate in several things like job status).

Ahhh paradise! Oops.. did I type that out loud?

Women in that nation are starving themselves to be thin.

Yea, but women in the USA are just fat.

(side note: when I went to the gym, I was not allowed to use the free weights; they were over in the men's section and NO WOMAN was allowed to stray over to them. I was considered incredible for being able to run 2 miles in 18 minutes on their treadmill).

Yea, they should let the women work out more, then they wouldn't have to starve to be thin.

The suicide rate for teens is still the subject of several comics. This is the same country that has the saying "the nail that sticks from the board must be hammered down."

I heard that, but I wonder why it is. Over crowded population?

But take it with a grain of salt, too, that fact that Japan never did apologize, or even teach in school, the full effects of what they did to the Chinese, Koreans, and Indians durring WWII.

It's probably something they'd rather forget. Besides, who cares about the other asians anyway? They are inferior. J/K.

[EarthSister]

>>EarthSister, may I ask what your take on the Martian Cydonia formations is?<<

DickK

As the martians tell me, the martian cydonia formations were created by the martians. It is not clear to me if they had any help from other races with their pyramids.
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>>This is false, all crop circle formations result in the loss of product which costs the farmer a lot of money. It also stops that crop from being harveted. You should research your facts before you fabricate stories, it would make your lie more believable.
<<

thaiboxerken

You could be right, and I apologize for answering that question because my understanding of whether the formations ruin the crops or not came more from humans than the aliens. I don't study on the subject, but it's what I have heard and I thought it was right. I believe the stalks are not even broken when the aliens are the artists, but humans cannot reproduce the same effect that the aliens have. I will be more careful answering questions about that topic from now on.
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Could you describe these (some of the many different energies and technologies they use to travel with) please? (As specifically as possible, thanks.)<<

Wolverine

Yes, coming up, I have to dig up my notes, but I hope you are not disappointed- it's not very specific.
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>>I guess I am missing something. The aliens want to contact us but cannot ... why?<<

Ed

Please realize that I use the term "govt" loosely. I do not understand any intricacies of "the govt within the govt" so I don't try to name who it is in there that runs these things.

The aliens do contact us, and always have, but mostly individual humans, and this is increasing steadily over all time. Some of our visiting races have had limited contact with some leaders of the US govt and some other leading govts- I do not know which ones, but the leading govts continue to refuse the aliens' offers of diplomacy so far. Basically that is because what the alien races are willing to offer their help with, are not the same kinds of things the govts want their help with. In fact, those things are rather opposite.

The advanced races want to help us cure diseases, feed, clothe, house, and provide medicine for all our people, clean up our world, unite our countries, etc. But our leading govts need the revenue they receive from their publics, like from fuel oil, tobacco, alcohol, etc, and to keep poor countries poor, and want world control, power, weapons technologies for things like weapons and space travel.

The govts threats are to the aliens themselves and some of the individual humans they work with. The threats are of physical harm, propaganda, kidnapping, and blackmail by doing anything publicly that can be blamed on the aliens. The govts also often easily quiet and/or redirect particular humans who become popular in the ufo field by tricking and seducing them with money and fame, or just outright buying their silence.

The alien races cannot take over our social or economic systems, or deny us our natural process of evolution, or split up our humanity by interfering between our govts and our people. They have to treat humanity as a whole. We have to change our own world ourselves, but when we try, the aliens can lend us some assistance within the guidelines of their jurisdiction.

That is the way it is throughout the known Universe.
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[EarthSister]

>>How did they get over the whole mass-gain thing? I mean, as an object approaches the speed of light, it gains mass. Maybe you didn't learn that in HS.<<

thaiboxerken

I learned about mass gain in HS but I have learned and witnessed a great deal from the aliens. All our visiting races use dimensional technologies to travel and conceal themselves while here. Other dimensions have different values of time, so the alien races do not accelerate beyond near light speed. However, if you accelerate to near light speed in another dimension with a greater value of time, that equals "many times greater than" the speed of light. You just get back out of the other dimension when you get to where you are going.

The advanced races can travel at greater than light speed, but there are various degrees of problems with it even for them, maybe the mass gain thing, and it's just not necessary for them anyway.

It still takes a very long time to travel between worlds. That is why our visiting races are all from nearby. All advanced races visit their own neighboring worlds, but share information throughout a network of a union of five galaxies. The unions of galaxies also share information. But don't think they can know everything- space is very big to everybody.
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>>Due to the way amtos are constructed we know every posible element up too about 110. After that they have such short half lives (much less than a second) that you could not build any from them.
If there is no name for the element just ask for the atomic number (what the steel-looking stuff of their crafts is made of) and we will know what it is.<<

geni

I will see if I get a chance to ask about that and if I can get an answer. If so, I will tell you.
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>>Uh huh. Same question: since they're so advanced, why can't they get around our "primitive" governments? How can the governments have worked so long, for generations, despite revolutions and changes of leadership (dictatorship, democracy, etc), to keep these aliens from getting their message across? And if they are so very very advanced because they're direct, how come they're doing a hokey pokey and dancing around the fringes, I mean, since the direct route is the best? And why aren't we visited, then, by hostile aliens? Only the good ones want to mess with our heads? How good can they be, then?<<

Suezoled

See above to Ed.

Also, We live in a kind of fish bowl on Earth, very contained with our information and what we can understand and will believe of what we are told by our leaders. (Just look at the nature of religion to assess the current intellect and habits of human belief.) The dumber we are, the more we can be mislead. So many horror stories about alien life are generated by govts and special interest groups, and of course many individual humans also who are held out front for us, and there is so little true information about alien life available yet, that almost all you ever hear is wrong and negative against the aliens.

The stories go around and around through the grape vines, picking up details, expanding and exaggerating all the time. That is the nature of the groupie. If everybody suddenly saw an alien craft, what exactly would that lend evidence to in all their own minds? It would prove that the stories are true. Even when the wiser people decide to reserve judgment until they can look into the matter, who do they trust to ask and believe? The leading authorities in the UFO field-- but still not the aliens.
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[EarthSister]

>>Get a grip Psiload, I don't think EarthSister would imply all military personnel are heartless drones, just the ones that ride in the Black Helicopters.<<

DickK

That's right and I apologize to Psiload and anybody else I may have offended.

[EarthSister]

>>On your website you say Japan was chosen for first contact becuase of their favorable demeanor, becuase they are a peaceful nation, and haven't been involved in any wars in some time. You also state that they are a strong stable nation that can withstand oposition from others.

The only reason Japan is peaceful is because they surrendered to the Allies in WWII. And when it comes to military countries that can defend themselves, they're not really ranked up there too high. What if North Korea or China decide they don't like the aliens and decide to sink the entire island of Japan when contact happens?

But I'm sure the council has already made provisions for this.<<

Demigorgon

Japan is made up of human people and so is its government. The aliens did not say that Japan was perfect for the job, only that they are best suited of all our nations, and that they are willing to handle first contact responsibly. It is time to make open contact, and the aliens have to work with what they have as soon as possible. The USA was asked by the aliens first, but the USA refused.

[thaiboxerken]

You could be right, and I apologize for answering that question because my understanding of whether the formations ruin the crops or not came more from humans than the aliens. I don't study on the subject, but it's what I have heard and I thought it was right. I believe the stalks are not even broken when the aliens are the artists, but humans cannot reproduce the same effect that the aliens have. I will be more careful answering questions about that topic from now on.

Humans ARE the artists in all crop circles. And yes, it has been exposed as to how they bend the crops without breaking the stalks. Did you not even see the TV special that told all about how to make crop circles? It takes some string, rope and wooden boards. It's not that hard to do.



Yes, coming up, I have to dig up my notes, but I hope you are not disappointed- it's not very specific.

Of course not, you are just a cleaner and all of your fabrications will be based on what you know. If you actually did talk to aliens, you could relay specifics even if you didn't understand them yourself.


The aliens do contact us, ..alien races are willing to offer their help with, are not the same kinds of things the govts want their help with. In fact, those things are rather opposite.

This is just more conspiracy theory that builds off of public distrust of authority.

The advanced races want to help us cure diseases, feed, clothe, house, and ... But our leading govts need the revenue they ..want world control, power, weapons technologies for things like weapons and space travel.

Yep, damn evil governments.. they are all evil!!

The govts threats are to the aliens themselves and some of the individual humans they work with.

I thought the aliens were so advanced that our primitive technology couldn't hurt them. I guess I was mistaken, right? They can build ships that travel faster than light and are more undetectable than our best stealth planes, yet we're tough enough to scare them.

The threats are of physical harm, propaganda, kidnapping, and blackmail by doing anything publicly that can be blamed on the aliens.

I guess all of that high-technology can't overcome human ingenuity.

The govts also often easily quiet and/or redirect particular humans who become popular in the ufo field by tricking and seducing them with money and fame, or just outright buying their silence.

Wow, you really have watched X-Files a few too many times.



The alien races cannot take over our social or economic systems, or deny us our natural process of evolution, or split up our humanity by interfering between our govts and our people.

Why not? Our gov'ts are obviously evil.

They have to treat humanity as a whole. We have to change our own world ourselves, but when we try, the aliens can lend us some assistance within the guidelines of their jurisdiction.

So to help us, we have to overthrow our gov't? Is that the message here?


That is the way it is throughout the known Universe.


Sounds like the "prime directive" from Star Trek. Couldn't you be more original?

[Iamme]

Hi again, EarthSister---I am anxiously awaiting the technologies you are going to give us about the aliens means of propulsion.

You say that even for them, time travel is great, and that is why the aliens who are from stars closest to us visit us...and aliens closer to other planets visit them. You said in some earlier post that it takes the aliens about 2 weeks for them to get here. Are the ones doing this going through that other dimension that you spoke of in the last few posts, where time is more expanded than what our time is, at faster than the speed of light to do so? And if so... did an alien tell you this, or are you just supposing this?

You also said that the aliens are from a 5 galaxy area? For you to know that it is 5...not 3, not 4, not 6, not 7...who told you that? How are they communicating these things to you exactly? What are you doing when you hear from them? Are you working? Sleeping/ dreaming? Do you meet with them somewhere in private? (Excuse me if you've already explained this and I missed reading this)

[thaiboxerken]

You just get back out of the other dimension when you get to where you are going.

Oh, so now they are dimensional travellers as well. I guess you do read alot of Sci-Fi.

The aliens did not say that Japan was perfect for the job, only that they are best suited of all our nations, and that they are willing to handle first contact responsibly

Haven't you seen Japanese sci-fi movies?! They like to unleash their SDF upon aliens before asking questions!

It is time to make open contact, and the aliens have to work with what they have as soon as possible.

But not withing any of our lifetimes, right? Your claims of "alien contact soon" will go with you to the grave. You're as bad as the doomsayers that have outrageous claims of the end of the world.. it's always soon, but yet it hasn't happened. Doomsayers have claimed the end of earth for over 2000 years. People have been claiming aliens bring peace to the world for a long time as well. Why is "soon" always such a long time?

[thaiboxerken]

http://www.stopabductions.com/

I am convinced by EarthSister that there are aliens, but I don't believe they are being honest with her of their intentions. They intend to assimilate humankind. I suggest everyone take proper defensive measures!!

Remember, aliens are also very allergic to water, so as a last resort, you can always spit on them!!

[ImpyTimpy]

All these aliens making contact with all these people and it hasn't occurred to them to maybe contact someone credible or well-known in the scientific community in order to promote their little ideas.

It seems the only common story to all these "alien contactees" is the fact they are not very credible and not very well known. As I have already put it, they're simply nobodies. It's interesting how insulted Earthsister got when I used that term though isn't it... One wonders if all this "alien contact" is simply something to make these people feel more important then they actually are.

Surely we humans wouldn't be that shallow... Would we?

[Aussie Thinker]

Impy,

You have actually NAILED it..

The Aliens find the MOST worthless, stupid, meaningless people they can and they SINGLE them out so they can feel special for once in their lives…

These Aliens are just being nice to the nuff nuffs !

Lucky for us they will NEVER contact us.. this implies we are not worthless !

[Lurker]

You know, there is proof that the Japanese can handle alien contact better than we Americans. Anyone see that "documentary" Contact? Yep, the American effort was sabotaged and the Japanese effort made it. The aliens must have seen that documentary and realized the Japanese were the most fit for contact.

Come on! It makes as much sense as EarthSis.

Lurker

[Jeff Corey]

It looks like no one saw that fine documentary film, Men in Black. The govemment is cooperating with the good aliens but we have to watch out for those bad ones that want to turn Earth into a renewable source of protein. That's why Amercans are so obese. The fine marblized prime meat is much prized by certain gourmet alien races.
Sumo sushi is also featured in many galaxy-class restaurants.

[Tricky]

Are you taking all this down, EarthSister? This is some great material for your role-playing game. Maybe you could create a new character with a name like Randak, the skeptic alien.

[Psiload]

EarthSister wrote:

Please realize that I use the term "govt" loosely. I do not understand any intricacies of "the govt within the govt" so I don't try to name who it is in there that runs these things.

So you're not talking about "the government" in the conventional sense of the word... presidents, senate, parliment, dictators, town councils, mayors, commissioner of waste disposal, etc...?

What you're trying to tell us is that there exists a sort of "shadow government" that exists behind the scenes, pulling the strings on the puppet government? An actual Illuminati?

Like I said before... this is bad science fiction.

You know all this about "the shadow government", yet you don't seem to understand any of it. Your space alien friends won't give you any details? You claim that the aliens want to help us, but they are being thwarted by "The illuminati"... yet your alien friends won't give you a single name? A single clue as to where on Earth this evil cabal operates? The location of their secret base? Located in a hollowed out vol-cane-o... surrounded by liquid hot mag-ma, perhaps?

No offense, but it just seems to reinforce what some other people on this forum have suggested... the aliens are picking some real winners. What do the aliens hope to gain by enlisting the help of earthlings as clueless, and impotent as you seem to be? I mean, I'm sure it makes you feel special and all that the aliens have chosen you, but come on... your grasp of even basic science seems tenuous at best, and I doubt you have a firm understanding of how conventional government functions, let alone how The Illuminati might go about keeping the world's population blissfully ignorant.

The aliens do contact us, and always have, but mostly individual humans, and this is increasing steadily over all time. Some of our visiting races have had limited contact with some leaders of the US govt and some other leading govts- I do not know which ones

All the time you spend rapping with your alien buddies about peace, love, and understanding, and it never occurs to you to ask these pertinent questions? Once again... the aliens are picking some real doozies.

The advanced races want to help us cure diseases, feed, clothe, house, and provide medicine for all our people, clean up our world, unite our countries, etc. But our leading govts need the revenue they receive from their publics, like from fuel oil, tobacco, alcohol, etc, and to keep poor countries poor, and want world control, power, weapons technologies for things like weapons and space travel.

Yeah, that Smoking Man is a real bastid'. Once again... bad science fiction.

The govts threats are to the aliens themselves and some of the individual humans they work with. The threats are of physical harm, propaganda, kidnapping, and blackmail by doing anything publicly that can be blamed on the aliens. The govts also often easily quiet and/or redirect particular humans who become popular in the ufo field by tricking and seducing them with money and fame, or just outright buying their silence.

Just when you think it can't get any worse... worse bad science fiction. The aliens have mastered superluminal space travel, but they shake in their little space booties when they're threatened by a race that is still bragging about having walked on the moon?

Puh-lease. :rolleyes:

The alien races cannot take over our social or economic systems, or deny us our natural process of evolution, or split up our humanity by interfering between our govts and our people. They have to treat humanity as a whole. We have to change our own world ourselves, but when we try, the aliens can lend us some assistance within the guidelines of their jurisdiction.

So which is it? Are the aliens unable to defeat the mighty Illuminati, or are they not allowed to as per the guidelines of Zeeepralbod Mandate?

That is the way it is throughout the known Universe.

Fascinating.http://h4h.com/louis/spock/spock3.jpg

[sophia8]

Originally posted by EarthSister
[B The USA was asked by the aliens first, but the USA refused. [/B]
So they never asked us Brits? I take this opportunity to state, on behalf of the entire United Kingdom, that we feel thoroughly insulted by this oversight and we are taking immediate steps to withdraw diplomatic recognition of the Galactic Federation.

And I bet you Canucks don't half feel insulted as well.....

[Lurker]

Originally posted by Jeff Corey
It looks like no one saw that fine documentary film, Men in Black. The govemment is cooperating with the good aliens but we have to watch out for those bad ones that want to turn Earth into a renewable source of protein.

Well, Contact documents the time before MIB when we were first contacting the aliens. MIB documents what happened after the aliens were assimilated into our government.

The NEA, run by Yzreroooea from the planet Szeios, has determined that all this will start to be taught in 2008. Only then will Americans be ready for the truth of MIB.

Lurker

[Lurker]

Psiload:

It isn't the Illuminati that is running the show. Didn't you watch those documentaries from the 60's and 70's? It is SMERSH and even though Bond tried really hard and set them back a long ways, SMERSH has retooled and now is as strong as ever, but they work as a shadow organization.

Evidence of their success is James does not even seem to know they exist anymore. Not one of the documentaries through the 80's, 90's and 00's has James even mention SMERSH. Truly they have mastered the art of being unseen.

Lurker

[Suezoled]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Suezoled


[b] The suicide rate for teens is still the subject of several comics. This is the same country that has the saying "the nail that sticks from the board must be hammered down."

I heard that, but I wonder why it is. Over crowded population?

But take it with a grain of salt, too, that fact that Japan never did apologize, or even teach in school, the full effects of what they did to the Chinese, Koreans, and Indians durring WWII.

It's probably something they'd rather forget. Besides, who cares about the other asians anyway? They are inferior. J/K.

In Japan, it's not the socially acceptable thing to stand out. A very integrated member of society feels enormous pressure not to make waves. If a person does, he gets hammered until he's "back in the board." If rebellion occurs, it's usually in at least a small group. Group dynamics. Incredible pressure. Some kids have been known to commit suicide because their classmates bully them so badly, and the kids feel they have nowhere to go.

But in places, like Kyoto... even that attitude is changing

Oh, and by the way, TBK, have you been carrying a hankerchief around with you? A clean one that is?

[lofgoernost]

EarthSister,

Have you ever had any contact with Whitley Strieber? From the little I have read of his blog, the fellow's been in anguish for years over what may or may not have been extra-terrestial encounters. If you could serve as an intermediary and put him in direct contact with the beings who probed him you could at least put an end to his uncertainty.
It would be a good thing.

p.s. Take a look at Warren Ellis's "Orbiter" and it may give you some ideas for answering lamme's questions on propulsion systems.

[Wolrab]

Why don't we all chip in and purchase her tape. Imagine what a hoot that would be. I'm sure all our questions would be answered to our complete satisfaction.

[Demigorgon]

I learned about mass gain in HS but I have learned and witnessed a great deal from the aliens. All our visiting races use dimensional technologies to travel and conceal themselves while here. Other dimensions have different values of time, so the alien races do not accelerate beyond near light speed. However, if you accelerate to near light speed in another dimension with a greater value of time, that equals "many times greater than" the speed of light. You just get back out of the other dimension when you get to where you are going.

The advanced races can travel at greater than light speed, but there are various degrees of problems with it even for them, maybe the mass gain thing, and it's just not necessary for them anyway.


EarthSister -

as someone who recently did a reasearch paper on time travel, what you have said has left me perplexed.

Since time itself is not linear, and based soley on the observer, is there a universal speed at which all races have agreed upon? If so, what is it? Otherwise would they all reach their destinations at different points in earth's history. And since it's theoriticaly impossible to travel backwards in time, what sort of psycological impact does it have on the different races when they return home, only to find that all of their loved ones and family have long since died?

[Psiload]

Originally posted by Lurker
Psiload:

It isn't the Illuminati that is running the show. Didn't you watch those documentaries from the 60's and 70's? It is SMERSH and even though Bond tried really hard and set them back a long ways, SMERSH has retooled and now is as strong as ever, but they work as a shadow organization.

Evidence of their success is James does not even seem to know they exist anymore. Not one of the documentaries through the 80's, 90's and 00's has James even mention SMERSH. Truly they have mastered the art of being unseen.

Lurker
SMERSH, yeah I remember those guys... they were only quasi-evil. KAOS, on the other hand, they were some seriously evil hombres. You just don't see dedicated agents like James Bond and Maxwell Smart battling the shadow organizations like we had in the 70's. Now we've got to rely on the likes of Nancy & Jack Malacaria to defend the interests of the free world.

We're doomed.:D

[WildCat]

Originally posted by Demigorgon
And since it's theoriticaly impossible to travel backwards in time, what sort of psycological impact does it have on the different races when they return home, only to find that all of their loved ones and family have long since died?
I thought taht was the main advantage of time travel, well that and the fact that you can really clean up on the interest rates. Put $100 in a 3% savings account and jump in your time machine. Come back in 500 years and you now have $262,187,723.40

Ka-ching!

[Psiload]

Hold the phone...

I was just perusing EarthSister's website:

http://www.theprojectatearth.com/AboutTheProject.html

And it turns out that the aliens have been visiting the Earth for thousands of years! As a matter of fact(figuratively speaking), our boy Zar, the leader of the Earth project, is himself 500 years old!

What have these guys been doing for the last thousand years? Living large on the Galactic Federation's expense account? I can understand how they may be foiled by "the government" in this day and age, but a thousand years ago? Five hundred years ago? Hell, even 100 years ago? They're capable of interstellar space travel, yet their attempts at communicating with the people of Earth were thwarted by "the government" back when the best communication technology was pecking out messages in Morse code? Then again, that method seems a damn sight better than stomping messages into rural wheatfields.

I dunno... seems this Zar guy is an incompetent boob. I'd say it's high time The Council ordered an audit of The Project. Time for some big, bulbous heads to roll... get some new blood(or light) running the show.

[WildCat]

And it turns out that the aliens have been visiting the Earth for thousands of years!
You think the US gov't is bad, those Romans made the MIB look like choir boys. Alien tech is no match for a sharp gladius up your arse.

[Andonyx]

My favorite part about this whole thing is that the Aliens are Christian....

Heh heh...I always suspected the Christians were Aliens...

(titty Boom!)

[plindboe]

Hi Earthsister.

Welcome to the board. I find your stories fascinating. It must be great to have such fantasies to make your life all the more interesting.

You can prove to me, and people on this board, that it's more than simple fantasies, by providing pictures of these aliens for us. Will you do this?

[plindboe]

Aussie Thinker

You need to grow up. How do you expect to convince someone by calling them worthless, stupid, meaningless & idiots? Ad hominem leads nowhere. Use arguments instead.

[Tricky]

Originally posted by plindboe
Hi Earthsister.

Welcome to the board. I find your stories fascinating. It must be great to have such fantasies to make your life all the more interesting.

You can prove to me, and people on this board, that it's more than simple fantasies, by providing pictures of these aliens for us. Will you do this?
You haven't seen them, plindboe? They are right here (http://www.theprojectatearth.com/Album.html). Apparently, some of them have taken to wearing 20th century clothing, while others prefer to remain naked.

Those wearing no clothes are the less-ons, but I think Earth Sister is more closely affiliated with the more-ons.

[Psiload]

Originally posted by plindboe
Aussie Thinker

You need to grow up. How do you expect to convince someone by calling them worthless, stupid, meaningless & idiots? Ad hominem leads nowhere. Use arguments instead. I'm afraid these people are far past the stage where rational argument will have any effect on them.

I give you Halo, the official family pet of "The Project Earth":

http://www.theprojectatearth.com/Thumbnails/Hey.jpg

The rabbit's name isn't given, but I'd imagine he's in on "The Project" in some capacity.

This is what we professional credophile researchers would classify as sure-fire indictor of a case to be filed under Lost Cause.

Now if we could get a discussion going with the five "at risk" children involved in the situation... there might just be some hope left for them.

[Aussie Thinker]

Plindpoe,

Aussie Thinker

You need to grow up. How do you expect to convince someone by calling them worthless, stupid, meaningless & idiots? Ad hominem leads nowhere. Use arguments instead.

Oh Plind… are you serious ?

In Denmark you may be a lot more touchy feely politically correct than we are here in Australia.

Here is it quite ok to call an idiot and idiot.

In 5 Pages of posts have you seen an inkling this fool changing her mind ?

She is either demented or a deliberate liar…

Either way NOTHING we can say or do here is changing her story.

It’s time to either leave the thread or start giving this cretin both barrels of the vitriol shotgun..

BTW I didn’t call her worthless etc.. I said the Aliens were contacting worthless people .. as you and I both know NO alien has contacted her so therefore I never called her names… think about it !

[plindboe]

Originally posted by Tricky

You haven't seen them, plindboe? They are right here (http://www.theprojectatearth.com/Album.html). Apparently, some of them have taken to wearing 20th century clothing, while others prefer to remain naked.


Hehe. Nice. But wasn't looking for drawings. I'm interested in photographies.

[plindboe]

Originally posted by Psiload
I'm afraid these people are far past the stage where rational argument will have any effect on them.


But how does that justify ad hominem attacks?

[plindboe]

Originally posted by Aussie Thinker
Here is it quite ok to call an idiot and idiot.


What's the purpose calling her an idiot? What do you hope to accomplish? Only 13 year old boys behave like that.

[Aussie Thinker]

Peter,


I read 5 posts by ES before calling her an idiot.

I gave her plenty of time to outline some evidence for her lunatic assertion.

We got crayons drawings and B Grade Sci Fi plots.

As I stated earlier.. we KNOW for a FACT this girls is either mentally unstable or lying.

If she is lying (which is what I think) then she deserves every piece of crap I can dish out to her.

I did have a private email exchange with her to ascertain her mental state (just to make sure I wasn’t dishing out on someone who couldn’t handle it). She first called me an idiot..

Here is the excerpt of the transcript (not that it means much)




Earth Sister

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" />
You are an idiot.
----- Original Message -----

Nancy

Why doesn't it work they way.. why did they visit you ?

Does the fact that is DOESN'T work that way give you pause to doubt ???

This is what I try and tell you about being delusional.. if ANYTHING that
could prove your case to someone else can't be done you have to start
thinking rationally that maybe you are fooling yourself !

Do you understand that ?

In these cases it is ALWAYS impossible to prove.. that is EXACTLY like the
lunatic in the asylum who thinks he is God.. I can't prove he isn't but I
am damn sure that he isn't

Earth Sister


<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" />
>>BTW Why can't you just give my address to one of your Aliens and ask them
to visit ?<<
Sorry, Stephen. It just does not work that way. I wish I could sometimes.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen.Ryan@doi.vic.gov.au
To: Earth Sister
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: Re:


Nancy,

You are right I don't think you are delusional.. I KNOW you are
delusional.

I KNOW as much as I know the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy do not
exist.

The existence of Aliens as common as you say would be so evident and
obvious that I would not even need to discuss it. The fact that evidence
is
obscure, non-existent and vague implies it doesn't exist.

Aliens very well may exist.. In fact laws of probability imply that in the
billions of planets out there I am sure Aliens exist.

But it is CLEAR they have never visited Earth or at least shown us that
they have !

BTW Why can't you just give my address to one of your Aliens and ask them
to visit ?

Etc Etc.

BTW Peter .. I like your calm style but don’t expect all of us to put up with idiots forever.

[EarthSister]

Hey, Everybody. I have decided to just leave these forums now.

I apologize for not finishing answering all your questions but I can't keep up with them at the same time I am being kicked in the face. I would rather spend the time with my family or visit other more comfortable places to discuss things, or tend to the serious questions in my email, all of which I have been neglecting in order to be here.

It is sickening to be personally ridiculed with this kind of cruelty, as I am sure some of you know. I don't deserve it no matter what any of you think of my alien experiences, and neither does anybody else no matter what their experiences and opinions are.

Good luck, I hope you all find what you are really looking for.

[Aussie Thinker]

Nancy,

Sad to see you go.. but we fully expected you would shoot through pretty soon. When your fantasy world was completely debunked and you could offer nothing but your own mentally unstable assertions you were always going to run away.!

Your lunacy was a source of great amusement for most of here though… so I have to thank you for that at least ! (I guess whenever we need a laugh or feel superior we can always have another look at your website...bwahahaha)

BTW Don’t sook about any perceived abuse.. if you come here and abuse our intelligence with your ridiculous stories (touting them to be real) with NO evidence then expect to have your idiocy highlighted !

[Psiload]

What a shocker... she done went and beat a hasty retreat. I didn't see that one coming across the Brooklyn bridge.

You'd think the aliens would pick people with thicker skins to act as their PR spokespeople.

I hope she doesn't go and tattle to The Council about my boorish behaviour. They're like to zip across the galaxy and trample a nasty message on my lawn... that'd learn me.

[El Greco]

Originally posted by EarthSister
Hey, Everybody. I have decided to just leave these forums now.

[hammegk]

OK, what kind of small furry animal should be tortured next? :(

[Iamme]

Good goin'. Ya had to go and wreck it. This was one of the most entertaining threads I have been on in a long time. Some of you would treat God the same way, if God showed up and said, "Here I am...I'm God". You would laugh HIM right out of here.

Some of you think Nancy is a liar or demented. But all *I* know is she was polite and very nice to spend so much time answering as many posted questions as she could. How would YOU like to have to be her...having like a hundred posters against one. It takes balls.

Haven't some of you learned that some of the most gifted people in our history had some form of mental disorder, of some type or another, which actually helped lend to them becoming highly attuned to the ability they were gifted in? There have been famous people that were this way. How do we NOT know that for some reason we can't explain...Nancy has some part of her brain that is like some finely tuned sensing device?

Have any of you ever considered various dimensions whereby time is greater, causing the speed of light to be faster in that dimension? Nancy mentioned such a thing, and I thought to myself, "Hmmmmm...interesting". It could be something out to lunch, but you never know. With someone like her explaining so much stuff...do you realize she could actually hit on some truths by accident? (if they WEREN'T from alien sources as claimed)?

I wish she would come back, because I would like to learn everything she thinks she has learned. It's interesting AND entertaining. You can go ahead and think she's nuts...but being mean spirited about it sure isn't throwing out the welcome mat...that's for sure.

Thanks again Nancy for having the nerve to do what you did; post in a skeptics forum. I gotta hand you a medal for that.:rub:

[Aussie Thinker]

Lamme,

Me think Lamme is in love…

Yes she did look pretty cute.. but a cute loony is still a loony.

Her “courage” had NOTHING to do with her content.

She produced NOTHING but crayons drawing and a few lame sci fi plots.

Her “explanations” about things were pathetic.. my 11 yo son knows more about science than she did.

There comes a time in life (and threads) when you just have to admit to yourself you are dealing with a complete moron and move on.

Serious Intelligent looneys like Hammeg and Interesting Ian (even Tai Chi) are useful to have around as they give us an insight into how the woo woo mind works.. They understand complex issues and add some good insights.

A moron like ES is struggling to understand the simplest of concepts and adds NOTHING to these boards (except amusement)

[Aussie Thinker]

Lamme,

BTW Why do we have to be grateful for someone to come here and LIE or spread their dementia.. I never quite get how being polite makes lies seem more palatable.

John Edwards seems like a nice bloke.. makes his lies all the MORE insidious !

[Psiload]

Originally posted by hammegk
OK, what kind of small furry animal should be tortured next? :( You'll do.

[hammegk]

Bring help ...

I love the snik-clik of a 12 guage pump.

[thaiboxerken]

In Japan, it's not the socially acceptable thing to stand out. ..Some kids have been known to commit suicide because their classmates bully them so badly, and the kids feel they have nowhere to go.

Which is very strange, because the hero's in their tv programs tend to stand out. Oh well.


Oh, and by the way, TBK, have you been carrying a hankerchief around with you? A clean one that is?

Nope, why?

[thaiboxerken]

Originally posted by plindboe
Aussie Thinker

You need to grow up. How do you expect to convince someone by calling them worthless, stupid, meaningless & idiots? Ad hominem leads nowhere. Use arguments instead.

Why do you even &)* care? Have you been reading the thread? It's obvious that this lady is immune to reason, rationale and evidence that here story is fabricated. She is either a stupid liar, or a stupid believer. Either way, she is a worthless, stupid and meaningless idiot.

It's rather silly to try to have a logical argument with the insane.

[plindboe]

Originally posted by Aussie Thinker
She first called me an idiot..


Actually you called her an idiot in your very first post in this thread. You weren't the only one that behaved that way though. Not that it matters much anyway now she has left.


Originally posted by Aussie Thinker
BTW Peter .. I like your calm style but don’t expect all of us to put up with idiots forever.

I know how you feel, since I'm too provoked by the absurd beliefs that people throughout the world hold. Sometimes I feel like yelling "Wake up you deluded morons!!!" to these people. But there will always be "idiots". Nothing in our power can ever change that fact. Mutual respect and sound arguments is the only way to reach results. Insults result in that they will close their minds and any effort from then on will be futile. The reason I spend my time discussing with woo-woos is to try to introduce some skeptical and rational thinking to their circles. Otherwise what's the point of discussing with them?

[Tricky]

She obviously realized she wasn't recruiting any new players for her little game here, so she moved on to greener crop fields.

Oh yeah, she was entertaining for a bit, but very unoriginal and the plot was pretty lame. She'd be better off writing her little stories for pre-teens. But I don't know if that is true either. Since Harry Potter, even they require more sophistication.

[roger]

Do you all entertain yourselves on the weekends by going the the psych ward at your local hospital and hurling epitaphs at the patients? Cause that's how you act on this board.

[thaiboxerken]

What's the purpose calling her an idiot? What do you hope to accomplish?

Hey, Everybody. I have decided to just leave these forums now.

Mission accomplished.

How would YOU like to have to be her...having like a hundred posters against one. It takes balls.

I think you are mistaking stupidity with courage.

How do we NOT know that for some reason we can't explain...Nancy has some part of her brain that is like some finely tuned sensing device?

I don't really care. She is a screwball that is trying to convince people to believe in nonsense.

Have any of you ever considered various dimensions whereby time is greater, causing the speed of light to be faster in that dimension?

I think I read it in a sci-fi novel before. There are many "interdimensional" books that have such a concept. I think there is even a spell in AD&D that uses that concept.

It could be something out to lunch, but you never know.

I could care less if there is no evidence to support the assertion.

With someone like her explaining so much stuff...do you realize she could actually hit on some truths by accident?

I don't care, because she has no evidence to support her "truths". Her "truths" are meaningless if she isn't going to spend the time to use scientific method to validate them. I highly doubt that she is working with scientists to help them in dimensional theory.

You can go ahead and think she's nuts...but being mean spirited about it sure isn't throwing out the welcome mat...that's for sure.

You might welcome her insane story, I certainly don't. If you want to hear more about her story, why don't you go visit HER site? She has a forum.

[plindboe]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
It's rather silly to try to have a logical argument with the insane.

Then don't try. Nobody is forcing you. If you have nothing to add to the thread then feel free to leave. Acting like a child leads nowhere.

[thaiboxerken]

Originally posted by roger
Do you all entertain yourselves on the weekends by going the the psych ward at your local hospital and hurling epitaphs at the patients? Cause that's how you act on this board.

No, why go through all the trouble of going to the hospital when the insane freely come to our forum? Hey, if a Jehova or a Mormon comes knocking on my door trying to sell jeebus, I'll make fun of them too.

[thaiboxerken]

Originally posted by plindboe


Then don't try. Nobody is forcing you. If you have nothing to add to the thread then feel free to leave. Acting like a child leads nowhere.

I was trying until it was clear that she was insane. So, I decided that ridiculing her would be more entertaining. If you don't like it, go to HER forum and discuss her insane stories with her there.

If you don't like what others are doing in the sandbox, leave.

[geni]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken


I was trying until it was clear that she was insane. So, I decided that ridiculing her would be more entertaining. If you don't like it, go to HER forum and discuss her insane stories with her there.
Are you a psychologist? Do have proper clinical reports to back up your claim?

I don't think anyone on this thread believed her. So apart from a simple statement that you though that she was delusional no further comments were necessary. What did you plan to achieve by ridiculing her?

[thaiboxerken]

What did you plan to atchive by ridiculing her?

Originally posted by EarthSister:

Hey, Everybody. I have decided to just leave these forums now.



Mission accomplished.

Oh, and entertainment at her expense as well.

[plindboe]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
What's the purpose calling her an idiot? What do you hope to accomplish?

Hey, Everybody. I have decided to just leave these forums now.

Mission accomplished.


Aha! So that was the plan all along. How nice of you. I suppose you have missed Hal's announcement:

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/announcement.php?s=&forumid=50

[Aussie Thinker]

Plindboe,

If you go to her website… like I did before posting in this thread .. it was clear she was a loon.

I admit I didn’t take her in ANY way seriously from the first post because of the website.. it had enough idiocy in it to show me she could not be reasoned with.

She came here we didn’t go there to “bug” her… if she came here and posts I’m gunn have as much fun as possible !

What on EARTH made you decide she deserved some sort of respect ????

[thaiboxerken]

She was given many, many chances to provide evidence for her claim. And no, her claim was not reasonable.

Feel free to go to her forum to discuss her story with her.

[Aussie Thinker]

Yeah,

I sent Hal a note about that…

Along the lines of .. if they show NO evidence and persist with lunatic claims they are fair game.

Intelligent looneys can give what they get.. and at least add alternative views.

Thin skinned semi moronic idiots like ES are wasting our time anyway.

[geni]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken
Originally posted by EarthSister:

Hey, Everybody. I have decided to just leave these forums now.



Mission accomplished.

So you whant these fourms to be sceptics only? How is that going to increase critical thinking or any other of the various things that it is claimed are the perpose of this forum. Her being here was not harming the forum so there does not appear to be anything gained by getting rid of her.

Oh, and entertainment at her expense as well.

So having fun at the expence of those who you belive to be mentaly ill is ok now?

[geni]

Originally posted by Aussie Thinker

What on EARTH made you decide she deserved some sort of respect ????

She is a human being as such she deserves some level of respect.

[thaiboxerken]

So you whant these fourms to be sceptics only?

Nope, I mean there has to be some nut-balls around to entertain us.

How is that going to increase critical thinking or any other of the various things that it is claimed are the perpose of this forum?

She was a lost cause, she absolutely refused to think critically of any of her story. She was given plenty of chances to provide evidence. It was explained to her why her story is unbelievable. She just didn't care, she was here to "explain aliens" to us, not to change her reasoning skills.

Her being here was not harming the forum so there does not appear to be anything gained by getting rid of her.

Yea, but it sure was fun pointing out how looney her story was.

So having fun at the expence of those who you belive to be mentaly ill is ok now?


Are you a psychologist? Do have proper clinical reports to back up your claim?

[Aussie Thinker]

Geni,

As I said a few times now.. a woo woo with some brains and some insight is ALWAYS welcome..

This moron got 5 Pages of mostly reasonable responses..

She provided NOTHING in return but crayon pictures and B Grade Sci fi stories..

Good riddance I say.

[geni]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken

Are you a psychologist? Do have proper clinical reports to back up your claim?

Read what I said .I was careful to write a person "who you belive to be mentaly ill". I never said that I thought that she was (ie I have inserficant information to come to a valid conclusion).

[Aussie Thinker]

Geni,

I am glad to see European political correctness is alive and well.

I admit you get a free pass for respect for being human.. but she lost any so quickly it would make you head spin.

You KNOW she was first class idiot so why would you really want a dialogue with her anyway.

She answered NONE of your reasonable requests with anything like a real answer. I would say she COMPLETELY disrespected you and your intelligence with how she treated YOU !

BTW.. Have you noted that even though I argue with you and Plind I have NOT called you any names etc ???? Why.. you don’t deserve it…

[geni]

Aussie Thinker

I agree that rational debate had got as far as it could go (she had created a "god of the gaps" with her "the alians didn't tell me" and "they told me but I didn't understand")

My aproach was to stop posting once I had reached this conclusion. Insulting her seems to me to be unessersary.

I feel that there are situaltions where an agresive aproach might be useful. This is where an agresive aproach is likely to make a difference. I could not see this applying in this case.

All in all she got a better reception from most people than I tend to get on belivers fourms but you can bet in the future that she is going to have sceptics marked down as evil people (ok that could be better put but it is 2.30 in the morning here).

[plindboe]

Originally posted by Aussie Thinker
She came here we didn’t go there to “bug” her… if she came here and posts I’m gunn have as much fun as possible !


This is not your private forum. It's not up to you to decide who stays and who goes.

Originally posted by Aussie Thinker
What on EARTH made you decide she deserved some sort of respect ????

What geni said.


Originally posted by Aussie Thinker
I am glad to see European political correctness is alive and well.

You're mistaking political correctness with civility. I call people what they are, when there is a purpose for it.

[Aussie Thinker]

Geni,

I accept your reasonable admonition I will try harder to be less abrasive with mentally unstable woo woos in the future…

(Maybe)

[Aussie Thinker]

Plindboe

This is not your private forum. It's not up to you to decide who stays and who goes.

And of course it isn’t up to me.

I never inferred it was or never tried to remove people from the forum..

In fact I was having a lot of fun with ES.. admittedly childish puerile fun (as you inferred) but then I never really grew up. So what the hey !

ES Removed herself.. like she was ALWAYS going to anyway.. if I speeded it up.. well… stiff !

[thaiboxerken]

This is not your private forum. It's not up to you to decide who stays and who goes.

No one forced her to leave.


You're mistaking political correctness with civility. I call people what they are, when there is a purpose for it.

She's an idiot, the purpose for saying it is so that she might hopefully realize it.

[ImpyTimpy]

Skeptics and skeptichicks, cool your heels for now, I am sure EarthSister will be right back under a different nick. Someone who jumped the second we started visiting her site and came to us is not going to leave so soon...

The aliens told me so...

[El Greco]

Where some well-meaning posters see a problematic person, I see a future Sylvia Brown, an outright liar, and one who in the future will take advantage of believers in order to make money. From whatever mental patients I have encountered, they almost never have so stable mentality and organized thought patterns. So, I agree with Tricky.

[Jeff Corey]

I am not a clinical psychologist, but I have worked in some institutions for the "insane". Sis is not posting with the wildly inconsistent stories that a unmedicated delusional person might.
The posts are consistent with the notion that someone is an adolescent who is practicing a story and is teasing people who bite for it.

[Suezoled]

Originally posted by thaiboxerken

In Japan, it's not the socially acceptable thing to stand out. ..Some kids have been known to commit suicide because their classmates bully them so badly, and the kids feel they have nowhere to go.

Which is very strange, because the hero's in their tv programs tend to stand out. Oh well.


Oh, and by the way, TBK, have you been carrying a hankerchief around with you? A clean one that is?

Nope, why?

Well, that's the thing. Japanese entertainment is not very real life. Ever watch "the Nurses"? It's a hospital tv drama that ran in Japan for a while. Like a soap opera.

The handkerchief is a staple in Japan. Clean handkerchiefs... let me say it this way: outside the primary cities like Tokyo, public bathrooms don't have hand towels to dry your hands on. The handkerchief is used for that. To use a handkerchief to blow your nose on it is crass; you use those little packets of Kleenex to blow your nose. Also, as an aside, most public bathrooms outside the major cities don't have toilet paper. You have to use those kleenexes for the same purpose. Just don't, you know, use the same kleenex for both purposes. :p

[Correa Neto]

I was following the thread without posting. My personal opinion is the there was really no need for offenses. I think the fun could have lasted longer. I would like to see how far she would go and how many (more) contradictions she would fall into.

[The Don]

Originally posted by roger
Do you all entertain yourselves on the weekends by going the the psych ward at your local hospital and hurling epitaphs at the patients? Cause that's how you act on this board.

I hope you meant epithets:

Definition: [n] a defamatory or abusive word or phrase; "sticks and stones may break my bones but names can never hurt me"
[n] descriptive word or phrase

rather than epitaph

\Ep"i*taph\, n. [F. ['e]pitaphe, L. epitaphium a funeral
oration, fr. Gr. ?, orig. an adj., over or at a tomb; 'epi`
upon + ? tomb. Cf. {Cenotaph}.]
1. An inscription on, or at, a tomb, or a grave, in memory or
commendation of the one buried there; a sepulchral
inscription.


Definitions from www.hyperdictionary.com

[roger]

Originally posted by The Don
I hope you meant epithets:I certainly did! Thanks for the correction :)


As for Corey and El Greco - it may very well be as you say. But who knows? Quite a few people travel here to DC to rail against the government, and I've had conversations with them while sitting in McDonalds, in the parks, etc. Some have been quite inconsistant, others, well, very, very bright, logical (if you buy their assumptions), yet completely deluded.

In any case, making a diagnosis online, and heaping abuse on somebody who may or may not be acting unethically, is, I submit, unethical.

[sophia8]

Originally posted by Iamme
Good goin'. Ya had to go and wreck it. This was one of the most entertaining threads I have been on in a long time. Some of you would treat God the same way, if God showed up and said, "Here I am...I'm God". You would laugh HIM right out of here.

Some of you think Nancy is a liar or demented. But all *I* know is she was polite and very nice to spend so much time answering as many posted questions as she could. How would YOU like to have to be her...having like a hundred posters against one. It takes balls.

Haven't some of you learned that some of the most gifted people in our history had some form of mental disorder, of some type or another, which actually helped lend to them becoming highly attuned to the ability they were gifted in? There have been famous people that were this way. How do we NOT know that for some reason we can't explain...Nancy has some part of her brain that is like some finely tuned sensing device?
Here I really must dig out my favourite Marx Brothers quote:
Groucho: "They said Einstein was mad! They said Edison was mad! They said Marconi was mad! They said my uncle Harry was mad...!"
Chico: "Your uncle Harry? But I ain't never hoid of your uncle Harry!"
Groucho: "Aha! That's because he was mad!"

Yes, I'm also rather sorry to see Nancy go - and I think that some of you were way too rough on her. However, she must have known what she was walking into - nobody signs onto a forum and posts without taking a good read through the threads.
So, coming on here, knowing what she knew about how people like her are treated here.....

D'you suppose the aliens told her to do it?

[sackett]

Originally posted by roger
... making a diagnosis online, and heaping abuse on somebody who may or may not be acting unethically, is, I submit, unethical.

And it's so much FUN!

As for the depressing little site under discussion: Take note that there's something for sale. There almost always is. Sample, say, Shroud of Turin sites: the sorry floggers all have a gifte shoppe, and they all accept major credit cards. Tapes, CDs, books, tees, figurines (aka idols), coffee mugs, keyrings, Virgin Mary dishtowel sets -- you can fill your house with the tschotkes they peddle.

We really shouldn't be buying that stuff. We should be selling it.

[The Don]

Separated at birth ?

From EarthSister's site...


....... possibly

[Psiload]

Originally posted by roger
I certainly did! Thanks for the correction :)


As for Corey and El Greco - it may very well be as you say. But who knows? Quite a few people travel here to DC to rail against the government, and I've had conversations with them while sitting in McDonalds, in the parks, etc. Some have been quite inconsistant, others, well, very, very bright, logical (if you buy their assumptions), yet completely deluded.

In any case, making a diagnosis online, and heaping abuse on somebody who may or may not be acting unethically, is, I submit, unethical. Heaping abuse? You think what we did to Earth Sister was an example of "heaping abuse"? You want to see abuse being heaped? just follow any one of ES's five children to school, and watch what happens when the poor, misguided little urchin introduces their alien friends Zylem, and Xandar to the class during show and tell... then you'll see abuse being heaped. With any luck, some of it might make it past the parental brainwashing, and the kid might possibly have a chance at a well-adjusted life. Talk about unethical... how would you like to have been raised in a looney bin like The Project Earth?

...cue The Twilight Zone music...

Just remember... WooWooism isn't always a victimless crime.