Classic xian arrogance...

[the_ignored]

Nothing like gloating over the dead, eh? Check out this example of arrogance: putting words into people's mouths (http://www.raptureready.com/photo/grave/quotes.html).

[c4ts]

Seen it, and it's all pretty stupid. It's just fabrication so the RR whackos can argue from authority.

[clk]

LOL. I especially like this one:
Adolf Hitler - "I am the poster boy for evil. Because I refused to make Christ my moral guide, I allowed Satan to become the master of my fate.”

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by the_ignored
Nothing like gloating over the dead, eh? Check out this example of arrogance: putting words into people's mouths (http://www.raptureready.com/photo/grave/quotes.html).

I say give the Evil Atheists a list of famous Christians and we'll show them how two can play the same game...

Also, see this thread: http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1870184978

[Zep]

Absolutely NO references or sourcing at all. Wonder why...

[Some Friggin Guy]

Yahweh, the problem with your idea is that many atheists don't eblieve in any kind of afterlife, which means that they can't do a "What would they say now that their dead and know the truth" thing. Dead people, after all, can't speak.

[LFTKBS]

That's just bizarre. Even if they'd say something like what the RR people have put in their mouths, why would they say it in such a lame manner?

"Without factoring God into every equation regarding eternal matters, it is impossible to achieve a true understanding of relevancy.”

Relevancy? What? What is that even supposed to mean?

[ceo_esq]

Originally posted by LFTKBS
That's just bizarre. Even if they'd say something like what the RR people have put in their mouths, why would they say it in such a lame manner?This reminds me of how advertisers promote sales events by placing cheap marketing slogans in the mouths of historical figures, e.g. George Washington saying "I cannot tell a lie, this President's Day Sale means big savings for you!"

It's just undignified.

However, I think in this case the author has at least made it sufficiently clear that these are fictional quotations that should not be literally attributed to those historical figures.

[Diogenes]

Originally posted by clk
LOL. I especially like this one:
Adolf Hitler - "I am the poster boy for evil. Because I refused to make Christ my moral guide, I allowed Satan to become the master of my fate.”

No mention of what God was busy doing, while Satan and his poster boy had their way with over 6 million innocents..:rolleyes:

[El Greco]

Originally posted by ceo_esq
However, I think in this case the author has at least made it sufficiently clear that these are fictional quotations that should not be literally attributed to those historical figures.

I wouldn't be surprised if in a couple of years these quotes are seriously attributed to these persons in various quotes sites all around the net.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by El Greco


I wouldn't be surprised if in a couple of years these quotes are seriously attributed to these persons in various quotes sites all around the net.

I was thinking the same thing. From reading snopes I get the impression that similar things happen with alarming frequency.

[Diogenes]

Originally posted by ceo_esq


However, I think in this case the author has at least made it sufficiently clear that these are fictional quotations that should not be literally attributed to those historical figures.



While there is no attempt to suggest the quotes are authentic, the author is rather bold ( is ' bold ' considered an alternative spelling for ' arrogant, assinine, idiotic, holier-than-thou, self righteous, etc.. ? ) in stating:
I think all of the following people would wholeheartedly agree with the quotes I provided.

Why would he imagine that any of them would agree?

[ceo_esq]

Originally posted by Diogenes




While there is no attempt to suggest the quotes are authentic, the author is rather bold ( is ' bold ' considered an alternative spelling for ' arrogant, assinine, idiotic, holier-than-thou, self righteous, etc.. ? ) in stating:

...

Why would he imagine that any of them would agree? Well, I'll allow that it's not especially bold to speculate that Mother Theresa might agree with her "quote".

[Diogenes]

Originally posted by ceo_esq
Well, I'll allow that it's not especially bold to speculate that Mother Theresa might agree with her "quote".


I wouldn't either... But I would think it bold to speculate that she would agree with me, if I were the author.. I trust you understand the difference I allude to..;)

[spejic]

Originally posted by Diogenes
No mention of what God was busy doing, while Satan and his poster boy had their way with over 6 million innocents..:rolleyes: That is because the people in Rapture Ready all know the Bible by heart, and therefore know that God was incapable of stopping Hitler. Hitler's army had tanks, and the Bible clearly says that iron chariots are more powerful than God.

Judges 1:19

[the_ignored]

Originally posted by spejic
That is because the people in Rapture Ready all know the Bible by heart, and therefore know that God was incapable of stopping Hitler. Hitler's army had tanks, and the Bible clearly says that iron chariots are more powerful than God.

Judges 1:19
Actually, I think the fundies have found a way out for that one...in this "Apologetics Press" article (http://www.apologeticspress.org/abdiscr/abdiscr39.html).

As a final word, notice that Joshua said that “the mountain country” and “its farthest extents” were the promised possession of the Israelites. In Judges 1:19, the children of Israel did, indeed, drive out “the inhabitants of the mountains.” Unless we force the phrase “its farthest extents” in Joshua 17:18 to read “lowland” as in Judges 1:19, then there is absolutely no hint of a contradiction, and this entire explanation is unnecessary. as well as two other dodges before that.

Mind you, I think that one of those dodges falls flat, a bit, since they say that it was a "conditional promise". Ok, but then why where they able to beat the first set of guys they came across then, if god was ticked at them. Also, the verse says that they couldn't beat the others NOT because they failed their promise to god, but specifically because the other guys had iron chariots!

That's all.

These people are probably THE ones to look at when you're looking for the apologists' ways to avoid contradictions...Beat them, and I think you've beaten them all.

[athon]

I was expecting the following:

Henry Ford:

"Now that I've seen how they make souls, I am disappointed to understand that I am not the first to invent mass manufacture."

Charles Darwin:

"God actually looks like a giant orang-utan. It all makes so much sense now!"

George Burns:

"Hey, I just found out that God and I are brothers! If he shaved he would look just like me."

John Lennon

"Hey, I just found out that Jesus and I are brothers! If he shaved he would look just like me."

Marilyn Monroe

"I can see my house from here!"

Sigmund Freud

"After carefully analysing the situation, I think Jesus has one hell of an Oedipus complex."

Athon

[c4ts]

Originally posted by Zep
Absolutely NO references or sourcing at all. Wonder why...

Apparently evidence is evil. That's why they have speculation and misinterpretation instead.

[UnrepentantSinner]

What are famous Christians saying now?

Paul:
St. Thomas Aquinas:
St. Anselm:
Francis of Assisi:
Cotton Mather:
Mother Theresa:

Wow, that speaks volumes doesn't it. :D


(with respect to the Chick Parody Archive for inspriation)

[DialecticMaterialist]

This isn't arrogant-this is desperate. I mean, has anyone actually considered what drives a person to make something like this? Something so uncreative, irrelevant and self-serving? Does he honestly think anyone will change their mind because they imagined what Hitler *might* say if he's disembodied and there is a Xian God?

[DialecticMaterialist]

BTW CEO_esq, I had a question a while back concerning the legality of the Patriot Act here: http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30528

And I was wondering if you would perhaps be kind enough to comment. I ask mainly because I know you are a lawyer who is fairly knowledgeable on similiar legal subjects, which for many of us (or me at least) remains quite controversial and complex.

[ceo_esq]

Originally posted by DialecticMaterialist
BTW CEO_esq, I had a question a while back concerning the legality of the Patriot Act here: http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30528

And I was wondering if you would perhaps be kind enough to comment. I ask mainly because I know you are a lawyer who is fairly knowledgeable on similiar legal subjects, which for many of us (or me at least) remains quite controversial and complex. Don't know how that thread escaped me. Let me collect my thoughts on that one and I'll get back to you.

[c4ts]

Originally posted by DialecticMaterialist
This isn't arrogant-this is desperate. I mean, has anyone actually considered what drives a person to make something like this? Something so uncreative, irrelevant and self-serving? Does he honestly think anyone will change their mind because they imagined what Hitler *might* say if he's disembodied and there is a Xian God?

Hitler would say: "I only want to be remembered as a good Christian who died for his country."

[DialecticMaterialist]

Originally posted by ceo_esq
Don't know how that thread escaped me. Let me collect my thoughts on that one and I'll get back to you.

Thank you CEO_esq, I'll look forward to your response. :)