Anti-paedo vigilantism

[arcticpenguin]

Mobs are on the move against paedophiles.

Here's a report of a known sex offender being killed in his own home: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/3251094.stm


The body of sex offender Arnold Hartley, 73, was found early on Saturday morning at his home in Redcar, Teesside.

Here's a report of a paediatrician being driven out of her home by an illiterate mob: http://www.guardian.co.uk/child/story/0,7369,361031,00.html


Self-styled vigilantes attacked the home of a hospital paediatrician after apparently confusing her professional title with the word "paedophile", it emerged yesterday.
(Thanks to Peter Jenkins for this link in another thread)

Are these two reports signs of an organized movement, or just coincidence?

[Checkmite]

Considering the two incidents are seperated in time by three years, I'm leaning more toward "coincidence".

[geni]

The second one was due to a lot of hysteria wipped by the n**s of the w***d publishing the names and addresses of sex offenders. I don't know about the first one but I doubt there is a link between the two or the riots in portsmouth (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/865289.stm)

[American]

Confusing "paediatrician" with the word "paedophile" is an entirely seperate issue. The stupidity is more worrisome than the crime.

If they actually get the right target, I don't feel badly about mob justice. What's the difference whether community members execute justice or a corrupt system of crooked cops, ineffectual prosecutors, overpaid scum lawyers, politically appointed judges, and 12 shmucks who resent their jury duty.

Pitch-fork justice is fine with me! :th:

[hammegk]

Did The Fool fly up to participate, or did he just pray for successful exterminations?

[The Don]

Originally posted by American
Confusing "paediatrician" with the word "paedophile" is an entirely seperate issue. The stupidity is more worrisome than the crime.

If they actually get the right target, I don't feel badly about mob justice. What's the difference whether community members execute justice or a corrupt system of crooked cops, ineffectual prosecutors, overpaid scum lawyers, politically appointed judges, and 12 shmucks who resent their jury duty.

Pitch-fork justice is fine with me!

I really do hope you are joking.

On the subjec tof trial by jury, I agree, most people are too stupid to stand in judgement over anything more important than a houseplant. I favour a legal system based on omnesience - or trial by ordeal.

Whipping mobs up into a rage is a popular way of gaining sales in today's competitive tabloid market.

[JamesM]

Originally posted by The Don
I favour a legal system based on omnesience - or trial by ordeal.

I prefer Trial by Jury, by which I mean if you know the words and tune to any part of the Gilbert and Sullivan operetta then you must be a good cove and therefore not guilty.

[arcticpenguin]

Originally posted by Joshua Korosi
Considering the two incidents are seperated in time by three years, I'm leaning more toward "coincidence".
Good point, I didn't notice the date on the scond clipping.

[American]

Originally posted by The Don

I really do hope you are joking.

You think a broken system is any better? It's worse in many ways. Institutionalized lies and people getting rich off of injustice. Misuse of the bench for politics and personal agendas. Wrongful convictions, criminals walk free due to loopholes and technicalities. Makes an angry mob look pretty good to me.

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by American


You think a broken system is any better? It's worse in many ways. Institutionalized lies and people getting rich off of injustice. Misuse of the bench for politics and personal agendas. Wrongful convictions, criminals walk free due to loopholes and technicalities. Makes an angry mob look pretty good to me.
Except when it's an angry mob which is motivated by a media-sponsored moral panic (always good for selling newspapers), which carnt tell the difference between a paedophile and a paediatrician and doesn't always bother to verify the details of the 'paedo' there hounding down. The UK govt. refuse to consider publicising the details of known paedophiles, and going on the behaviour of these lynch mobs, for good reason. It's not simply to protect the guilty, but also to protect their families, as well as people who share similar details, such as surname or address.

[American]

Originally posted by BillyTK

Except when it's an angry mob which is motivated by a media-sponsored moral panic (always good for selling newspapers), which carnt tell the difference between a paedophile and a paediatrician and doesn't always bother to verify the details of the 'paedo' there hounding down. The UK govt. refuse to consider publicising the details of known paedophiles, and going on the behaviour of these lynch mobs, for good reason. It's not simply to protect the guilty, but also to protect their families, as well as people who share similar details, such as surname or address.


Well I'm not a big fan of paediatricians anyway....

[Skeptic]

Here's a report of a paediatrician being driven out of her home by an illiterate mob:

Yeah, we don't want none of them perver padeatricians in OUR neighborhood!

[Suddenly]

Originally posted by American


You think a broken system is any better? It's worse in many ways. Institutionalized lies and people getting rich off of injustice. Misuse of the bench for politics and personal agendas. Wrongful convictions, criminals walk free due to loopholes and technicalities. Makes an angry mob look pretty good to me.

I guess you know the system is "broken" because you heard on TV that these things happen. Plus, you are sure that OJ was guilty because the television said so, and they are much more reliable than the court system.

Whoops! That can't be right. Circular reasoning and all that. Perhaps you have some basis beyond watching too much Fox News for determining the system is broken?

[American]

Originally posted by Suddenly


I guess you know the system is "broken" because you heard on TV that these things happen. Plus, you are sure that OJ was guilty because the television said so, and they are much more reliable than the court system.

Whoops! That can't be right. Circular reasoning and all that. Perhaps you have some basis beyond watching too much Fox News for determining the system is broken?


No not cause of any of that you jerk! It's broken on account of all the things I already said and I'm not going to repeat it, not for you or anyone cause you didnt bother reading it or else you wouldn't be saying all that stupid stuff you just wrote.

[NoZed Avenger]

Originally posted by JamesM

I prefer Trial by Jury, by which I mean if you know the words and tune to any part of the Gilbert and Sullivan operetta then you must be a good cove and therefore not guilty.

In the reign of James the Second,
it was generally reckoned
as a rather serious crime -
to marry two wives at a time.

That's it.

I'm inspired. I want to change my name to Pirate King or something.

N/A

[Sandy M]

Hark the hour of ten is sounding,
Hearts with anxious fears are pounding,
Halls of Justice crowds surrounding, breathing hope and fear!

For today in this arena,
summoned by a stern subpoena
Edwin sued by Angelina shortly will appear!

*******

At length I became as rich as the Guerneys,
An incubus then I thought her
So I threw over that rich attorney's elderly, ugly daughter.
The rich attorney my character high tried vainly to disparage...
And now if you please I'm ready to try this breach of promise of marriage...


;) Hi, James!!! I'm innocent!!! (or at any rate, Not Guilty!)

[Suddenly]

Originally posted by American



No not cause of any of that you jerk! It's broken on account of all the things I already said and I'm not going to repeat it, not for you or anyone cause you didnt bother reading it or else you wouldn't be saying all that stupid stuff you just wrote.

So you admit to the belief that if a system is not perfect that we should simply ignore it and forget even trying?

Or is it that you think an angry mob full of people that get all their information from mass media is more likely to find the truth than a jury that gets it's information from an ordered court proceeding?

Actually, the real question is why I even respond to you at all, a wannabe hipster doofus who spends most of his time choking on his own ankle...

[geni]

looks like whoever did migh be going to get away with it.

At a press conference on Monday, Detective Superintendent Brian Dunn said: "I am disappointed at the lack of response, in fact we have had only one call into the incident room.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/3254842.stm

[shanek]

Originally posted by arcticpenguin
Mobs are on the move against paedophiles.

Here's a report of a known sex offender being killed in his own home: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/3251094.stm

Here's a report of a paediatrician being driven out of her home by an illiterate mob: http://www.guardian.co.uk/child/story/0,7369,361031,00.html


Another good reason why the public sex offender registry is a bad idea.

[shanek]

Originally posted by geni
The second one was due to a lot of hysteria wipped by the n**s of the w***d

Nuns of the world?
Nods of the weird?

publishing the names and addresses of sex offenders.

I think you mean, "government." :p

[geni]

The government tried to keep it secret. I don't know how the news of the world got hold of it.

[shanek]

Originally posted by geni
The government tried to keep it secret. I don't know how the news of the world got hold of it.

Out of curiosity, why did you asterisk (yes, it's a verb, too, look it up) "news of the world"?

Anyway, your government is far more sensible than ours. Here (http://sbi.jus.state.nc.us/DOJHAHT/SOR/Default.htm) is a publicly-accessible database of all of the sex offenders in the State of North Carolina. You can get their names, addresses, picture, height, weight, hair/eye color, birthdate, state ID number, and offense committed with relevant charges, dates, and sentences.

All in the name of safety.

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by shanek

Anyway, your government is far more sensible than ours.

*blinks*

Can I add this to my sig list, please? :D

[geni]

Originally posted by shanek


Out of curiosity, why did you asterisk (yes, it's a verb, too, look it up) "news of the world"?


Because they are the equivlent of a supermarket tabloid only people take them seriously. By publishing those names they caused an anti-paedophile riot (ok I can't prove cause and effect but the nigh after they published the name there was a riot) in which a lot of damage was done.

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by geni


Because they are the equivlent of a supermarket tabloid only people take them seriously. By publishing those names they caused an anti-paedophile riot (ok I can't prove cause and effect but the nigh after they published the name there was a riot) in which a lot of damage was done.
The subsequent witchhunts can certainly be pinned on The News of the World's cynical publicity campaign; if that sordid little rag hadn't published those names, the people who took part in the subsequent "protests" would have had no-one to vent their anger on.