Newspaper Ad calls for Obama's Assassination

[Thunder]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090530/twl-newspaper-ad-called-for-obama-assass-3fd0ae9.html

This is why I hate conspiracy theorists, right-wing loonies, neo-con jackasses, and all the other anti-Obama folks.

They are feeding into all the violent anti-Obama rhetoric and some day some fool may decide to act on it.

:(

[Ziggurat]

This is why I hate conspiracy theorists, right-wing loonies, neo-con jackasses, and all the other anti-Obama folks.

Nothing quite like lumping everyone who disagrees with you together, that's what I always say.

[Drysdale]

Whats the problem?

Was'nt there a movie depicting the assasination of Bush?

[Dr Adequate]

Whats the problem? Someone advocated the assassination of the President.

Was'nt there a movie depicting the assasination of Bush? There is a difference between making something the premise of a movie and advocating it. This is why Martin Scorsese hasn't been arrested under the RICO Act.

[Thunder]

Oh, and I just had a nice little chat with the Secret Service. They are interested in the comment under the article that lists more targets and seems to think this is a good idea.

Believe it or not, the guy had no idea what Prisonplanet.com was. I had to explain it to him.

:)

[webfusion]

parky76, when you call the Secret Service on a Sunday and get a random 'Customer Care' representative who is just answering the phones, perhaps you really shouldn't expect too much. Just sayin'

[Thunder]

parky76, when you call the Secret Service on a Sunday and get a random 'Customer Care' representative who is just answering the phones, perhaps you really shouldn't expect too much. Just sayin'

it was not a "customer service rep.". he was the real deal. he got my address, phone #, and i helped him find the page.

and he thanked me for being a concerned citizen.

:)

[Skeptic]

If you read the text of the ad, a very different interpretation comes to mind.

Far from being the work of right-wing zealot, I'm almost certain the real story here is a drunken bar bet. Somebody bragged that they can get an ad calling for Obama's assassination published in the local paper without the idiot editor noticing what he had just accepted, his somewhat skeptical drinking buddies disagreed, and they've bet the evening's beer tab on it.

He won the bet, but will now get a visit from the secret service (which I can't blame for doing their job, just in case...) Still, I agree this is a very serious matter. Do you have any idea what that night's beer tab was?

[INRM]

The last thing I want would be for a President to be assassinated. Not really because I like Obama, or his predecessor all that much, but because if it happened, it would be grounds for martial-law and our civil rights would be done for and for good.

Even if it didn't amount to that, it could lend credence to the attitude that any critic of the government is a threat to national-security and the definition of terrorist would soon be elaborated to any person who's criticized the government, and with proposals floating around regarding preventive detention, it doesn't take a gigantic leap of imagination to determine how bad that could end up.


INRM

[corplinx]

I'm almost certain the real story here is a drunken bar bet.

2 simple rules for jokes in the US
1. dont joke about killing the president
2. dont joke about bombs, terrorism, or drugs in an airport

Anyone ignorant of those two rules deserves the green glove in their body cavity.

[corplinx]

Oh, and I just had a nice little chat with the Secret Service.

Stop snitchin

[Thunder]

Stop snitchin

don't #### with my President, and I won't snitch.

:)

[Thunder]

anyways, wouldn't it be interesting if the guy I reported was actually planning on doing something..and I saved the day??

:D

I guess they gave me a shiny gold badge for a reason.

[Travis]

The last thing I want would be for a President to be assassinated. Not really because I like Obama, or his predecessor all that much, but because if it happened, it would be grounds for martial-law and our civil rights would be done for and for good.

Um, no. Unless nationwide riots broke out, that can't be controlled by the police, there would be no martial law as a result of his assassination. If there was no martial law when JFK was killed, when attempts on Ford and Reagan were made or when 9/11 happened for goodness sakes instituting it for this would be hugely inappropriate and everyone would know it.

Even if it didn't amount to that, it could lend credence to the attitude that any critic of the government is a threat to national-security and the definition of terrorist would soon be elaborated to any person who's criticized the government

Somehow, I don't think so.

and with proposals floating around regarding preventive detention, it doesn't take a gigantic leap of imagination to determine how bad that could end up.


INRM


Actually that is a "gigantic leap of imagination" so be proud, not everyone is that creative.:rolleyes:

[Thunder]

Not really because I like Obama, or his predecessor all that much, but because if it happened, it would be grounds for martial-law and our civil rights would be done for and for good.

Dude, seriously. Let this go. we have had several presidential assassinations and no martial law.

[tyr_13]

Oh wow! The Warren Times Observer? I'm twenty miles from Warren PA.

I can totally see that happening down there. Even more conservative than this area.

[Tin Foil Timothy]

Oh, and I just had a nice little chat with the Secret Service. They are interested in the comment under the article that lists more targets and seems to think this is a good idea.

Believe it or not, the guy had no idea what Prisonplanet.com was. I had to explain it to him.

:)


How did you contact them if they are secret?








:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Chaos]

If you read the text of the ad, a very different interpretation comes to mind.

Far from being the work of right-wing zealot, I'm almost certain the real story here is a drunken bar bet. Somebody bragged that they can get an ad calling for Obama's assassination published in the local paper without the idiot editor noticing what he had just accepted, his somewhat skeptical drinking buddies disagreed, and they've bet the evening's beer tab on it.

He won the bet, but will now get a visit from the secret service (which I can't blame for doing their job, just in case...) Still, I agree this is a very serious matter. Do you have any idea what that night's beer tab was?

Oh, right.

And I guess the Kennedy assassination was just a frat prank that got out of hand, eh?

[technoextreme]

Actually that is a "gigantic leap of imagination" so be proud, not everyone is that creative.:rolleyes:
Have you read his other posts? It is like a bad science fiction novel.

[Thunder]

How did you contact them if they are secret?


Silly dilly. They got an office in Brooklyn.

Ay....yo....fuggetaboutit!!

:D

[Molinaro]

2 simple rules for jokes in the US
1. dont joke about killing the president
2. dont joke about bombs, terrorism, or drugs in an airport

Anyone ignorant of those two rules deserves the green glove in their body cavity.

How do you know it's a green glove? :p

[INRM]

Travis,

Um, no. Unless nationwide riots broke out, that can't be controlled by the police, there would be no martial law as a result of his assassination. If there was no martial law when JFK was killed, when attempts on Ford and Reagan were made or when 9/11 happened for goodness sakes instituting it for this would be hugely inappropriate and everyone would know it.

That's not entirely true. One would consider a presidential assassination to be a terrorist attack. Since 9/11 our last administration operated under the premise that if an other terrorist attack occurred on U.S. soil, it would be grounds for martial-law.

Now granted we have a new Administration, but Obama defends much of the policies that Bush did (he didn't when he was running for office, but now that he's in office, he does). He's even considering going further than Bush allowed -- Preventive Detention.

It's likely that in modern day a presidential assassination would likely end up resulting martial-law declaration.

[Ziggurat]

Since 9/11 our last administration operated under the premise that if an other terrorist attack occurred on U.S. soil, it would be grounds for martial-law.

Evidence?

It's likely that in modern day a presidential assassination would likely end up resulting martial-law declaration.

Evidence?

[dudalb]

2 simple rules for jokes in the US
1. dont joke about killing the president
2. dont joke about bombs, terrorism, or drugs in an airport

Anyone ignorant of those two rules deserves the green glove in their body cavity.

Making jokes about certain sports teams in certain localaties during the football season can also be very hazardous to your health......

[dudalb]

A.I am sure the Secret Service is aware of this and are investigating and
B. I would be the Secret Service finds out it is just drunken bar talk. It's the ones that don't take our ads or talk that worry the Secret Service.
C. Forgive me if I am cynical enough to think that some of the same people here who are outraged would have much less outrage if this happened a year ago with Bush as the target of the ad.

[fuelair]

How did you contact them if they are secret?








:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
It's not Sekrit secret, just normal secret. They just hide it in the phone book!!:D:D:D

[fuelair]

How do you know it's a green glove? :pThey're the ones with the refreshing hint of menthol!*
















*Burning it's way the wrong way into your digestive tract.:D

[Thunder]

It's likely that in modern day a presidential assassination would likely end up resulting martial-law declaration.

is this a prediction..or a wish?

[Chaos]

A.I am sure the Secret Service is aware of this and are investigating and
B. I would be the Secret Service finds out it is just drunken bar talk. It's the ones that don't take our ads or talk that worry the Secret Service.
C. Forgive me if I am cynical enough to think that some of the same people here who are outraged would have much less outrage if this happened a year ago with Bush as the target of the ad.

D. Forgive me if I am cynical enough to think that, had this happened a year ago with Bush, the people who find this entertaining now would have been screaming bloody murder about the evil liberal Democrat lefist progressives, or whatever, and their traitorous terrorist ways.

[Alferd_Packer]

is this a prediction..or a wish?


That is the scary part. It seems that a lot of the far right wing is pushing the nut jobs in that direction.

[Thunder]

That is the scary part. It seems that a lot of the far right wing is pushing the nut jobs in that direction.

it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. or at least they pray it will be.

some..some..of these nuts.....desperately WANT martial law!!

why? so they can start their revolution and rebellion.

this is why i am afraid that will instigate and provicate, as much as they can, to force the authorities to crack down on them more and more.

the more they instigate, the more police bust them, the more they whine, the more they rally forces. its a self-fulfilling cycle.

[Ziggurat]

the more they instigate, the more police bust them, the more they whine, the more they rally forces. its a self-fulfilling cycle.

No it's not. Look at the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing.

[Thunder]

No it's not. Look at the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing.

that was pre-internet. :D

[JoeTheJuggler]

2 simple rules for jokes in the US
1. dont joke about killing the president
2. dont joke about bombs, terrorism, or drugs in an airport

Anyone ignorant of those two rules deserves the green glove in their body cavity.

You read my mind. (I'd add a rule number 3 about not shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater when there is no fire.)

If this was the result of a drunken bet, I suspect the guys involved will have a wonderful "opportunity" to get a bit of alcoholism treatment.

[mortimer]

that was pre-internet. :D
No. I recall very vividly discussing the bombing on IRC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irc) that day.

[Thunder]

No. I recall very vividly discussing the bombing on IRC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irc) that day.

did your roommate create Microsoft?

=)

[Travis]

Travis,

That's not entirely true. One would consider a presidential assassination to be a terrorist attack.

That's debatable. It would entirely depend on the circumstances of the assassination.


Since 9/11 our last administration operated under the premise that if an other terrorist attack occurred on U.S. soil, it would be grounds for martial-law.

Got some proof for that or is this just wild speculation? A terrorist attack could, under certain circumstance, necessitate Martial Law. So could a hurricane. Should we fear tropical depressions in the Atlantic?

Now granted we have a new Administration, but Obama defends much of the policies that Bush did (he didn't when he was running for office, but now that he's in office, he does). He's even considering going further than Bush allowed -- Preventive Detention.

Which, to this point in time, seems to be a rumor more than anything.

It's likely that in modern day a presidential assassination would likely end up resulting martial-law declaration.

I still say it's one hell of a stretch to say that it's "likely."

[Thunder]

One would consider a presidential assassination to be a terrorist attack. Since 9/11 our last administration operated under the premise that if an other terrorist attack occurred on U.S. soil, it would be grounds for martial-law.

I'm gonna call this one big lie...cause that's what it is.

[Skeptic]

A.I am sure the Secret Service is aware of this and are investigating and
B. I would be the Secret Service finds out it is just drunken bar talk. It's the ones that don't take our ads or talk that worry the Secret Service.

My point is slightly different. True, drunken bar talk about "somebody should kill Obama!" is not the same as a plan to kill him. But it might not even be that: "betcha I can get the local paper to publish an ad calling for killing the president without them noticing!" doesn't even necessarily imply hatered of Obama, but only despising the intelligence of the local paper's editor -- apparently, it turns out, with good reason.

All this of course does not mean to imply the secret service shouldn't check it out, or that anybody is wrong in reporting this -- to be on the safe side. But I really don't think it's serious.

[billydkid]

Nothing quite like lumping everyone who disagrees with you together, that's what I always say.
This once, I'm with you Zig.

[tyr_13]

My point is slightly different. True, drunken bar talk about "somebody should kill Obama!" is not the same as a plan to kill him. But it might not even be that: "betcha I can get the local paper to publish an ad calling for killing the president without them noticing!" doesn't even necessarily imply hatered of Obama, but only despising the intelligence of the local paper's editor -- apparently, it turns out, with good reason.

All this of course does not mean to imply the secret service shouldn't check it out, or that anybody is wrong in reporting this -- to be on the safe side. But I really don't think it's serious.

Sorry if this sounds callous to anyone from PA, but in that area of Pensiltukey, it is entirely likely that someone wanted to show their hatred for Obama and would have been happy for someone to take them up on the offer.

It's a nice 'healthy' mix of poor white conservatives with some flatout racists along with some rich ass white conservatives hating 'socialism'.

Thankfully, most of the people from down there are really nice, down to earth, and happy to have their economy on the rebound.

[MattusMaximus]

It's likely that in modern day a presidential assassination would likely end up resulting martial-law declaration.

The CT-subforum is two doors down on the right :rolleyes:

[MattusMaximus]

it was not a "customer service rep.". he was the real deal. he got my address, phone #, and i helped him find the page.

and he thanked me for being a concerned citizen.

:)

Good for you, Parky. Can you help me find the comments? I just looked and my web-fu has failed me :(

[Cleon]

Sorry if this sounds callous to anyone from PA, but in that area of Pensiltukey, it is entirely likely that someone wanted to show their hatred for Obama and would have been happy for someone to take them up on the offer.

It's a nice 'healthy' mix of poor white conservatives with some flatout racists along with some rich ass white conservatives hating 'socialism'.

Thankfully, most of the people from down there are really nice, down to earth, and happy to have their economy on the rebound.

I hail from the great city of Pittsburgh, and yeah, that sounds pretty spot-on.

Someone once described Pennsylvania as "Pittsburgh on one side, Philadelphia on the other, and Alabama in-between."

[Thunder]

I hail from the great city of Pittsburgh, and yeah, that sounds pretty spot-on.

Someone once described Pennsylvania as "Pittsburgh on one side, Philadelphia on the other, and Alabama in-between."

I recall the Amtrak ride from Penn Station in NYC to Pittsburgh, on the way to
WVU. The ride between Philly and Pittsburgh always felt like a ride though the wilderness.