France Welcomes Genocidal Dictator Mugabe

[Richard G]

http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/2/21/110312

I hope the French people are armed. It sounds like their oppresive goverment is growing out of control.

[PogoPedant]

Originally posted by Richard G I hope the French people are armed. It sounds like their oppresive goverment is growing out of control.
Mugabe was invited to the meeting as other african contries had threatened not to come if he wasn't. If you paid any attention to the welcoming, you'd notice that most of the african leaders were greeted with to kisses on each chin. Mugabe got a stiff handshake and a cold shoulder. Also, much of what was said in relation with Zimbabwe was a criticism of the regime and it's methods.

Research, research, research.

Pogo

[bangdazap]

OK, Mugabe is bad - but genocidal?

[a_unique_person]

Originally posted by bangdazap
OK, Mugabe is bad - but genocidal?

every day he seems to grow little madder. africa is trying to deal with him the best it can.

[aerocontrols]

Originally posted by bangdazap
OK, Mugabe is bad - but genocidal?

Yes.

Eight years after Rwanda, the world may be witnessing another genocide on the African continent. This one is harder to see because the mechanism of death isn't machetes; it's lack of food. Zimbabwe's Matabele minority has suffered at the hands of President Robert Mugabe's Shona-dominated Zimbabwe African National Union Patriotic Front (ZANU-PF) party for as long as Zimbabwe has been independent. So it is no surprise that they, even more than their oppressed countrymen to the north, withstood threats, beatings, and murders and last March cast their ballots for the opposition Movement for Democratic Change. Tragically, the ZANU-PF bludgeoned and rigged their way to reelection nonetheless, as African leaders throughout the continent cheered. And Mugabe is now taking his revenge in maize. His catastrophic decision to cleanse the country's farms of their white owners has forced the country--once southern Africa's breadbasket--to import food from the world's charities. And Mugabe is making sure little of it enters the south. The government has only permitted half a million tons of maize into Zimbabwe, all of it distributed through the state-operated Grain Marketing Board, one of whose managers told The Times of London, "We only sell to Shona-speakers." Reports of desperate hunger have been trickling out of Matabeleland for months. And Didymus Mutasa, ZANU-PF's administrative secretary and senior bureaucrat, recently admitted that whittling down Zimbabwe's population from its current twelve million is his government's explicit plan. "We would be better off," he said, "with only six million people ... who support the liberation struggle. ... We don't want all these extra people." In the wake of the Rwandan genocide, Washington witnessed an impassioned round of never-agains. It's time for the Bush administration, in conjunction with the world's other great powers, to show that it was listening.

source (http://tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20021230&s=notebook123002zimbabwe)

[shuize]

Mugabe got a stiff handshake and a cold shoulder.
Man, just a handshake and no kisses. They sure showed him. I bet he'll really think twice about starving hundreds of thousands of people now....

[Hypocolius]

Originally posted by bangdazap
OK, Mugabe is bad - but genocidal?

Absolutely, http://www.una-uk.org/Comment/zimbabwetorture.html

[Quote]during the slaughter of some 20,000 people in Matabeleland at the hands of the North Korea-trained Fifth Brigade, the Amani Trust, an Harare-based organization which documents torture and assists its victims, found that 50% of the adult residents of Matabeleland were tortured[Quote].

And, http://www.dailynews.co.zw/daily/2002/January/January30/1173.html
[Quote]After he gained power in 1980, Mugabe ordered his North Korea-trained 5 Brigade to murder 16 000 civilians of the minority Ndebele tribe in western Zimbabwe, an act of violence intended to consolidate his power that the international community simply ignored.[Quote]

[Flo]

Originally posted by shuize

Man, just a handshake and no kisses. They sure showed him. I bet he'll really think twice about starving hundreds of thousands of people now....

Yes, I'm disappointed ... I was expecting him to be shot on sight as he started to climb the stairs of the Elysée ...:rolleyes:

[Trollbane]

Actually it doesnt really matter if they hold a conference or not. Stalin and who knows how many other murderous villains have had meetings with other leaders, so that kinda rules it out. What actually makes me mad about this, is the fact that Mugabe has been banned from entering EU area, but France decided to still recieve him.

[Jon_in_london]

Thanks for posting that 5 brigade stuff hypo- its amazing how few people know wbout that.

I think Europe should stand up and be proud. Tell Mugabe to get stuffed and if other african leaders refuse to attend because of that then stuff them too.

We should all stop molly-coddling these muderous cnuts. No democracy and human rights => No aid & no trade!!!

[a_unique_person]

apart from all that, it's not as if the western world has a brilliant history of treating africa well. From slavery, to colonialism, to exploitation of it's resources and random slicing up of the country, the west itself has plenty to answer for. If the whites in rhodesia had committed to a peaceful handover of power, without forcing the blacks to resort to violent means to get to power, someone who was not as prone to violence would probably not have gotten into power.

that is, peaceful means were not working. they used a man of violence to obtain their freedom. the man of violence is now staying put, using that violence as a means of staying in power.

[Shane Costello]

Originally posted by a_unique_person:
apart from all that, it's not as if the western world has a brilliant history of treating africa well. From slavery, to colonialism, to exploitation of it's resources and random slicing up of the country, the west itself has plenty to answer for. If the whites in rhodesia had committed to a peaceful handover of power, without forcing the blacks to resort to violent means to get to power, someone who was not as prone to violence would probably not have gotten into power.

that is, peaceful means were not working. they used a man of violence to obtain their freedom. the man of violence is now staying put, using that violence as a means of staying in power.

The same analogy could be drawn with the Irish struggle for independence from the British. The difference being that we managed to establish a democracy and face down the men of violence within our own ranks. Neither were pogroms instigated against the Protestant minority who would've been sympathetic to maintaining the link with Britain. Past colonialism shouldn't be used as an excuse or an explanation for Mugabe. Perhaps the most ominous thing about Mugabe is the popularity he enjoys with other African leaders, which doesn't bode well for the future of the continent.

[Ed]

Originally posted by shuize

Man, just a handshake and no kisses. They sure showed him. I bet he'll really think twice about starving hundreds of thousands of people now....

Well, you know those french, they are tigers when roused

[shuize]

If the whites in Rhodesia had committed to a peaceful handover of power, without forcing blacks to resort to violent means to get to power . . . .
More blaming the victims, I see.



Black Rhodesian: Give me your house and farm.

White Rhodesian: No.

Black Rhodesian: Well then, you are forcing me to kill you and your family. . . .