It's the End of the World!

[Aitch]

According to 'cereologists', or whatever they call themselves these days. Oh and the Daily Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5540634/Phoenix-crop-circle-may-predict-end-of-the-world.html).

Hoo boy!;)

Final sentence of the piece is, er, interesting.

[realpaladin]

Aw, not the Mayan calendar again...

[Fiona]

It is probably a the design for a new traffic system in Swindon: it can't be worse than what they have

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_(Swindon)

[ToddH]

And I feel fine. :)

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

Final sentence of the piece is, er, interesting.


The formation, measuring 150ft in diameter, is apparently a coded image representing the first 10 digits, 3.141592654, of pi.
I think that is a reference to this crop circle:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2144652/Most-complex-crop-circle-ever-discovered-in-British-fields.html

~~ Paul

[The_Fire]

It is probably a the design for a new traffic system in Swindon: it can't be worse than what they have

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_(Swindon)



:eye-poppi

Please, please, PLEASE tell me that thing is avoidable ! It scares me!

:scared:

[Fiona]

I do not know if it is avoidable: I only know that I was lost and tired and I met it at rush hour without any warning at all

[The_Fire]

i do not know if it is avoidable: I only know that i was lost and tired and i met it at rush hour without any warning at all

ouch!

[JollyRoger]

End of the world hu

OK I got some 1934 champaign who's got the glasses. I have no intention of watching the end of the world sober

[seayakin]

All I can say is someone's pretty artistic, thats a nice looking design.

[Denver]

It doesn't look like a phoenix to me.

It looks more like something aquatic.

Maybe a Buddha-fish.

[philkensebben]

Surely crop circles dont need any more debunking these days, do they?

[Lothario]

Instead of drawing a phoenix, why not just write: "hey i just wanted to let you know the end of the world is coming, k? luv ya! xoxoxo"

[LostAngeles]

The comments on this are a goldmine. A sampling:

The Mayans believed civilisation exists within a series of earth cycles of 144,000 days each with the 13th expiring in December 2012, resulting in Armageddon".
This is absolutely not true.
Who wrote that is twisting the interpretation of the Mayan calendar and feeding fear in the people who read this.
The Truth is: yes we are in the midst of a dimentional shift and if there will be any "end" is for the system as it is now...so the guys who are attached to the present circumstances get ready because is "your" end of affairs that will be deleted for ever...Thanks God!

#

Has anyone ever thought to answer these obvious messages? Apparently when grain or plants are planted in an orderly fashion their life force forms a matrix that possibly emulates occurrances on plants of a similar nature on other fields on other planets in neighboring solar systems. Maybe we need to paint them a picture.


This is so obviously man made! How thick are people anyway? And how stupid do the hoaxers think they all are? Very, apparently. The real circles are a mystery, the rest is a giant p*ss on everyone who is dumb enough to be fooled by it. Wake up and clue in!

I find it quite frightening reading these comments that most people still have no idea what is happening to them. Humanity is ascending to the 5th dimension, some spiritually evolved people have already ascended but most will go towards Dec 2012. we will be living in our physical bodies but on a higher frequency, possibly not even on earth. People please educate yourselves because we will NOT get help from our governments who will have absolutely no power to stop what nature is intending. IT ALL GOOD :@)

[Ashles]

Lucy Pringle, a researcher of crop formations, said: "This is an astounding development - it is a seminal event."

Lucy Pringle?

Once you Crop, you can't stop.

[Twiler]

We do need to prepare for December 21st 2012.

Specifically, we need to make sure that we're ready to mock the apocalypse idiots as soon as the fateful date passes. If we leave it too long, rationalisation patterns will kick in. Ideally, we will commence with the laughing and pointing just as the 'Oh-noes-I-is-alive' expressions are starting to spread across their faces.

[Marduk]

Lucy Pringle?

Once you Crop, you can't stop.

that pringles advert is a lie as well, if it was true they wouldn't sell them in resealable tubes
:D

[Marduk]

We do need to prepare for December 21st 2012.

Specifically, we need to make sure that we're ready to mock the apocalypse idiots as soon as the fateful date passes. If we leave it too long, rationalisation patterns will kick in. Ideally, we will commence with the laughing and pointing just as the 'Oh-noes-I-is-alive' expressions are starting to spread across their faces.

I have been making a note of everyones e mail addresses who has ever placed any faith in the 2012 bs, I was thinking of sending them a long email explaining how they were fooled and precisely why we aren't now vibrating on another planet, it would have been an epic piece of writing covering all the aspects of pseudo history that they need to look at objectively in order to bring them back to reality gently in a way that is not too traumatic for their delicate sensibilities, and then I thought, "ah screw it", i'm just gonna send this
"you are retard"
I think that should suffice
;)

[Fredrik]

Many of the comments are just sad. This one was a bit funny too:

"The Mayans believed civilisation exists within a series of earth cycles of 144,000 days each with the 13th expiring in December 2012, resulting in Armageddon".
This is absolutely not true.
Who wrote that is twisting the interpretation of the Mayan calendar and feeding fear in the people who read this.

Actually, that's not a bad start. That's what makes it funny. At this point I thought he was going to explain that the calender doesn't end there (it just hits a big round number, 13 baktuns) and that the Mayans didn't actually say that something is going to happen at that time. (They did however have a creation myth that said that one of the failed attempts to create the world was aborted at the end of the 12th baktun).

But then he continues:

The Truth is: yes we are in the midst of a dimentional shift and if there will be any "end" is for the system as it is now...so the guys who are attached to the present circumstances get ready because is "your" end of affairs that will be deleted for ever...Thanks God!

[ToddH]

The comments on this are a goldmine.

Wow. That's a whole lot of crazy.

Is it me or do a lot of these people sound like they're reciting dialogue from Star Trek The Next Generation?

[ExMinister]

Doesn't it occur to any of the believers that the crop circle hoaxers are reading the same magazines and blogs they are and giving them what they expect to see?

[aofl]

:eye-poppi

Please, please, PLEASE tell me that thing is avoidable ! It scares me!

:scared:
I like the line from the Wikipedia article:

In December, a Christmas tree is added to the centre of the roundabout.

I can just imagine it:
Ooh, look at the pretty---<CRASH!>
A

[leafman91]

Wow, this old topic. It's been months...

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=136827

:)

I'm going to spend the 21st of December 2012 on a brand new penthouse!

[CelticRose]

Wow. :eye-poppi Some of those hoaxters have way too much time on their hands.

[iMaGiNaTioN]

These comments are golden:

"I find it quite frightening reading these comments that most people still have no idea what is happening to them. Humanity is ascending to the 5th dimension, some spiritually evolved people have already ascended but most will go towards Dec 2012. we will be living in our physical bodies but on a higher frequency, possibly not even on earth. People please educate yourselves because we will NOT get help from our governments who will have absolutely no power to stop what nature is intending. IT ALL GOOD :@)"

__________________________________________________ _________

Holy crap... the 5th Dimension?!? The Age of Aquarius perhaps?

[Ambrosia]

It is probably a the design for a new traffic system in Swindon: it can't be worse than what they have

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_(Swindon)

aaaarrrggghh!

I used to work 5 mins down the road from TMR a few years back :(

I had almost forgotten about it.

Still gives me shivers.

[LightningStrike]

NO ONE ON THIS THREAD SEEMS TO HAVE PICKED UP THIS RELATED INFO SO HERE IT IS;

A fair few of the crop circles this season are being interpreted as a warning of an upcoming solar flare which will result in a coronal mass ejection headed for the earth. The 7th of July is the interpreted date for the happening. Cropcircleconnector web page has all the current formations.

Interestingly the sun has been very quiet for two years. On 21 June a really big Coronal Mass Ejection happened on the back side of the sun.

Best case scenario for one hitting the earth is widespread aurora borealis displays.
Worst case satellites disabled and power failures.

Super worst case scenario with really big CME: earth's surface becomes electrically charged and this charge finds it's way into the electricity network. This may result in damage to electrical equipment or the transformers themselves. If all are blown at once there are not enough spares to repair the system........even vehicles may not work.

The most effective way to end the world would be to stop the electricity that we are all so absolutely dependent upon. Let's hope that one doesn't happen.

[JcR]

Great! The Sun farts and we all die...:)

[realpaladin]

NO ONE ON THIS THREAD SEEMS TO HAVE PICKED UP THIS RELATED INFO SO HERE IT IS;

A fair few of the crop circles this season are being interpreted as a warning of an upcoming solar flare which will result in a coronal mass ejection headed for the earth. The 7th of July is the interpreted date for the happening. Cropcircleconnector web page has all the current formations.

Interestingly the sun has been very quiet for two years. On 21 June a really big Coronal Mass Ejection happened on the back side of the sun.

Best case scenario for one hitting the earth is widespread aurora borealis displays.
Worst case satellites disabled and power failures.

Super worst case scenario with really big CME: earth's surface becomes electrically charged and this charge finds it's way into the electricity network. This may result in damage to electrical equipment or the transformers themselves. If all are blown at once there are not enough spares to repair the system........even vehicles may not work.

The most effective way to end the world would be to stop the electricity that we are all so absolutely dependent upon. Let's hope that one doesn't happen.
Ok.

(I love the 'Super worst case', it almost made me believe there's a 'reasonably worst case' to go with it)

[babbits]

Great! The Sun farts and we all die...:)

Or the sun dies and we all fart. Then someone lights a match....

[dogguy]

It is probably a the design for a new traffic system in Swindon: it can't be worse than what they have

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Roundabout_(Swindon)

Hey! I've been there, fortunately as a passenger with a driver who was familiar with it. We went around several times to see all the different routes you could take.

[Cuddles]

Specifically, we need to make sure that we're ready to mock the apocalypse idiots as soon as the fateful date passes.

Why do we need to wait until 2012 to mock them?

Doesn't it occur to any of the believers that the crop circle hoaxers are reading the same magazines and blogs they are and giving them what they expect to see?

Not necessarily. A lot of it is just art. Like a lot of graffiti it's also illegal vandalism, but in a lot of cases the motivation is likely nothing more than a combination of drawing something pretty and the desire to make a big, anonymous "I wos 'ere". Sure, there are plenty of genuine hoaxes around as well, but the crop circle scene has changed a lot since it started, and I think it's mostly now just a different form of expression rather than anything to do with woo.

Interestingly the sun has been very quiet for two years.

Well, not really that interesting, we just happen to be at a minimum in the regular cycle at the moment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Solar-cycle-data.png

On 21 June a really big Coronal Mass Ejection happened on the back side of the sun.

Do you have a link for this? I can't find any reports mentioning it.

Best case scenario for one hitting the earth is widespread aurora borealis displays.
Worst case satellites disabled and power failures.

Close enough.

Super worst case scenario with really big CME: earth's surface becomes electrically charged and this charge finds it's way into the electricity network. This may result in damage to electrical equipment or the transformers themselves. If all are blown at once there are not enough spares to repair the system........even vehicles may not work.

Complete nonsense. The Earth's surface will not become electrically charged. Damage to electrical grids is certainly possible, but that is simply a part of the worst case you already listed above.

The most effective way to end the world would be to stop the electricity that we are all so absolutely dependent upon. Let's hope that one doesn't happen.

Not really. Any damage caused by a CME would be an instantaneous phenomenon, not a lasting problem that prevents electricity working ever again. It could cause some big problems for modern civilisation, but would be nothing that couldn't be repaired, and many things wouldn't even be damaged at all (to start with, everything on the night side of the Earth when the CME arrived). Problems, yes, but not the end of the world.

[Aitch]

Why do we need to wait until 2012 to mock them?


Good manners? ;)

[ExMinister]

Not necessarily. A lot of it is just art. Like a lot of graffiti it's also illegal vandalism, but in a lot of cases the motivation is likely nothing more than a combination of drawing something pretty and the desire to make a big, anonymous "I wos 'ere". Sure, there are plenty of genuine hoaxes around as well, but the crop circle scene has changed a lot since it started, and I think it's mostly now just a different form of expression rather than anything to do with woo.


I don't know. I was thinking of Dave and Doug, the two who claimed to have been responsible for the circles in England in the beginning, and how they said part of the fun for them was getting the reaction from the UFO believers. I suspect the phoenix is playing on the 2012 beliefs of that community, and that many of the creators are still hoping their artwork will be taken as messages from the ETs.

But like you said it has definitely become something of an art form these days as well, so there will be a variety of motivations. My personal favorite being the giant jellyfish. If there's some woo message to that one, I haven't been able to figure it out.

[LightningStrike]

On 7 JULY signs interpreted in crop circles indicate a CME(coronal mass ejection) headed for us.

Cuddles, regarding the power outages caused by a large CME:

The cause of complete power failure to large regions of the world would be this;

Swift changes in the electro-magnetic field of earth induce a current in the long stretches of wiring of the power network.

These currents melt the copper core of the transformers.

Replacement apparently can take a week by a trained crew of whom there is a handful.
Spare transformers....not enough to go around (could take 12 months to make them to order)

No power for 3 days or more = big trouble

Check it out at http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20127001.300-space-storm-alert-90-seconds-from-catastrophe.html?full=true

[Wauthan]

I don't really get the "without electricity we'll all die" proponents. When I was younger there was a local power failure that lasted a bit over a month, right in the middle of winter. The only bad part out of it was the freaking cold showers and the fact that I was suckered into playing Magic the Gathering.

If everything electronic breaks down there will be deaths and suffering a plenty. Then things will be repaired or replaced and after a few decades noone will even remember it happened. Sure it will be bad, but not the end of modern civilization.

If you're aiming for the end of the world you need to pull out all the stops. Please refer to http://www.exitmundi.nl/ for suggestions on how to create an even better doomsday scenario.

[Cuddles]

Cuddles, regarding the power outages caused by a large CME:

Yes, I know all that already. As I said, it has nothing to do with the surface of the Earth becoming charged, which is what you said before.

Also, do you have any evidence of this CME you say occurred on 21st June?

[Locknar]

On 7 JULY signs interpreted in crop circles indicate a CME(coronal mass ejection) headed for us.Ok, and when this does not happen?

[Moochie]

Again.


M.

[George152]

Again.


M.

It's been done... and we're still here

http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl1.htm

[LightningStrike]

CUDDLES here is the link to the page I viewed http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/westkennett/articles.html

LOCKNAR when this does not happen I shall be slightly disappointed.

[babbits]

Lightnin said:

"On 7 JULY signs interpreted in crop circles indicate a CME(coronal mass ejection) headed for us."

Is that anything like a GBM?

A gritty bowel movement is a toilet experience that includes a feeling of scraping, unnatural chunkiness, or an uncomfortable sand-paper-like feeling.

By the way, the end of the world didn't happen again.

[JFrankA]

NO ONE ON THIS THREAD SEEMS TO HAVE PICKED UP THIS RELATED INFO SO HERE IT IS;

A fair few of the crop circles this season are being interpreted as a warning of an upcoming solar flare which will result in a coronal mass ejection headed for the earth. The 7th of July is the interpreted date for the happening. Cropcircleconnector web page has all the current formations.

Interestingly the sun has been very quiet for two years. On 21 June a really big Coronal Mass Ejection happened on the back side of the sun.

Best case scenario for one hitting the earth is widespread aurora borealis displays.
Worst case satellites disabled and power failures.

Super worst case scenario with really big CME: earth's surface becomes electrically charged and this charge finds it's way into the electricity network. This may result in damage to electrical equipment or the transformers themselves. If all are blown at once there are not enough spares to repair the system........even vehicles may not work.

The most effective way to end the world would be to stop the electricity that we are all so absolutely dependent upon. Let's hope that one doesn't happen.

I had the "Middle But More Towards the Annoying End of the Worst Case Scenario":

On July 7th: I went to go to the DMV to renew my driver's licence........


*cue dramatic music*




:D

[aofl]

On 7 JULY signs interpreted in crop circles indicate a CME(coronal mass ejection) headed for us.

Cuddles, regarding the power outages caused by a large CME:

The cause of complete power failure to large regions of the world would be this;

I almost lost my electricity on July 7. Not because of anything the sun did, but because I hadn't paid my bill in a while :blush:.



No power for 3 days or more = big trouble


My mom was part of the 2007 Oklahoma mass ice storm power outage. She and large parts of the state were without electricity for over a week. I still receive LOLcat emails and phone calls from someone who calls herself my mother so I have to assume against all available scientific predictions that she survived.

A

[babbits]

AFOL complains: 'I still receive LOLcat emails and phone calls from someone who calls herself my mother so I have to assume against all available scientific predictions that she survived.'

Does she nag you about not phoning? If not, it's not your mother. It's a doppelganger wanting to steal your soul. Don't send it money.:eek:

[leafman91]

AFOL complains: 'I still receive LOLcat emails and phone calls from someone who calls herself my mother so I have to assume against all available scientific predictions that she survived.'

Does she nag you about not phoning? If not, it's not your mother. It's a doppelganger wanting to steal your soul. Don't send it money.:eek:

Yeah, then it buys your soul off E-bay. There's no knowing how your soul gets on E-bay, but it's always there. Alcohol catalyzes this effect.:D