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billiefan2000
4th December 2003, 02:45 PM
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/32003c.asp

A_Feeble_Mind
4th December 2003, 02:49 PM
Obviously, the Living Hope Ministries are lying in their "documentary," as well all know that the Mormons are the one True religion (as documented on South Park.)

Swishy McJackass
4th December 2003, 02:55 PM
Hmm... Christians claiming Mormon mythology is untrue.

Pot calling the kettle black?

Nyarlathotep
4th December 2003, 02:55 PM
Being a Mormon turned atheist I can tell you two things

1) No one but the Mormons believe in the accounts in the Book of Mormon anyway, so telling this to non-mormons is rather like preaching to the choir.

2) Mormons would be totally unfazed by this. When I used to be in the church I had a lot of questions about how the accounts of the Book of Mormon gibed with modern day archeology (or rather didn't gibe). I never got straight answers, just a lot of evasion. I was basically told that maybe God didn't mean for it to be understood. I think the DNA evidence mentioned in the article would get the same thing.

Besides, if I am not mistaken, American Indians were genetically linked to Siberians a long time ago, yet any Mormon worht his salt can tell you that Indians are "Lamanites", desecendants of one of the supposed isrrealites named Laman. That fact never fazed them then, I doubt it will now.

My question is, since you can turn a skeptical eye on a faith that you disagree with, can you turn an equally skeptica eye on your own? Or would you prefer to be like the Mormons I just mentioned?

Yahweh
4th December 2003, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
My question is, since you can turn a skeptical eye on a faith that you disagree with, can you turn an equally skeptica eye on your own? Or would you prefer to be like the Mormons I just mentioned?
Smart smart smart smart...

Yahweh
4th December 2003, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by billiefan2000
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/32003c.asp
From the article:
The Book of Mormon has been held up by the LDS as an accurate early history of the Native Americans and of their faith, despite the fact that no artifacts, remnants of cities, linguistic clues, or other scientific proofs have been found to support these propositions.
Christians rely on the scientific method (and the "no s**t" approach to reasoning) when disproving the literalization of the Mormon faith...

I hope I'm not the only one who sees this as a double standard...

sparklecat
4th December 2003, 04:47 PM
Hey, at least Christianity has got some archaeology backing it up... remnants of cities and such...

Not saying the Bible is perfect, but still better than the BoM.

Yahweh- is it just me or did your avatar freeze over?

Yahweh
4th December 2003, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by sparklecat
Yahweh- is it just me or did your avatar freeze over?

Only for Christmas :)

Here are some of the other colors my avatar comes dressed in. My original avatar I used was the blue one, I changed it to an inverted red pentagram for Halloween, I really liked it so I never bothered to change it.

sparklecat
4th December 2003, 05:04 PM
Nice job on the icicles...

*needs to post more so she can come up with a Christmassy sort of avatar*

Not that I have any ideas, but its nice to at least have the option.

Hexxenhammer
5th December 2003, 08:58 AM
Kramer hopes to bring the truth to the fore. "What we're trying to communicate with the people here in Utah and elsewhere is to give them an understanding that really, all the anthropologists and archaeologists -- they are all in agreement, outside of Mormonism, outside of BYU -- that the principle ancestors of Native Americans are Asian, and not Hebrew," he says. OK Billie, if you buy this statement from scientists, how about a comment on how they got here 12,000 or more years ago? Which is also in common agreement with archaeologists and anthropologists. Or aren't you a young earth creationist?

c4ts
5th December 2003, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Yahweh

From the article:

Christians rely on the scientific method (and the "no s**t" approach to reasoning) when disproving the literalization of the Mormon faith...

I hope I'm not the only one who sees this as a double standard...

Orwell called it "doublethink." It's just like the time Creationists claimed that all the animals on the ark evolved later to account for biodiversity.