Another Building Collapsed In Shanghai - Lets see the TM use this one

[BigAl]

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* [012] Building Collapsed In Shanghai (06/27/2009) (Daqi)

At around 5:30am on June 27, an unoccupied building still under construction at Lianhuanan Road in the Minxing district of Shanghai city toppled over. One worker was killed. According to information, a 70 meter section of the flood prevention wall in nearby Dianpu River and that may have something to do with this building collapse.

http://www.zonaeuropa.com/200906c.brief.htm#012

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[Thunder]

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its already on prisonplanet.

funny how this building was not hit by a 757, did not have raging fires on multiple floors, did not have its thermal insulation blown off, and was not designed with the peculiar steel structure of the wtc towers or wtc 7.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

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[INRM]

Honestly, I just think the Chinese are just really cutting corners at all cost to manufacture and build stuff and they built a building the wrong way and/or with substandard parts and it toppled.


INRM

[R.Mackey]

No good. They'll take this as evidence that all structures should topple over mostly intact, rather than disintegrate as they fall. Jim Hoffman has several similar examples on his website making such an argument.

Of course, little will be made of the fact that this particular building was extremely narrow along the axis on which it toppled, or that it was only about 17 stories high... The Truth Movement has almost no concept of scaling, as I demonstrated with my appearance on Hardfire and the dearth of intelligent response afterward.

Not a comparable event, in my opinion. I doubt we will see the likes of the WTC 1 and 2 collapses again in our lifetimes.

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Huh. Right-mouse-click and open in new tap works in FireFox, at least for me.

For those that do see the problem, open the new story URL and scroll down. You'll see all of them.

[McHrozni]

What's this website the stuff is posted on, by the way? "All the bad things happening in China?"

Not that I mind, most of this stuff doesn't make it into any media outlet anyway, I'm just curius :)

McHrozni

[Travis]

Looking at the pics I can't even see where this building was attached to its foundation outside of those tiny pipes or a freaking foundation for them to fit into at all.

[Newtons Bit]

Concrete structures can (but won't always) do this. Steel structures cannot.

[Travis]

Honestly, I just think the Chinese are just really cutting corners at all cost to manufacture and build stuff and they built a building the wrong way and/or with substandard parts and it toppled.


INRM

You might be on to something.


Yellow River dams verge on collapse

2009-06-19

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-06/19/content_8301942.htm

Several dams on branches of the Yellow River in Gansu province are near collapse only one or two years after their construction.

Improper construction procedures, disqualified workers, embezzlement of construction funds and mismanagement of local water resource departments are threatening the safety of the dams, according to China Youth Daily.

One dike more than 80-m long and 20-m high, built in 2006 in Yuanxian county on the middle and upper reaches of the Yellow River, has developed a breach about 10 meters wide in the middle.

According to nearby villagers, at least five newly-built dams are in very fragile condition, the newspaper said.

All those dikes are part of the soil and water conservation project of the Yellow River under the management of the Ministry of Water Resources. Most of the money for construction comes from the central government.

With a length of 5,464 km, the Yellow River, dubbed the "mother river" of China, suffers the most serious soil erosion in the world, especially along its middle and upper reaches. The average amount of mud and sand washed into the river every year reaches 1.6 billion tons.

[Lennart Hyland]

Look at those pipes....looks like they have been cutted.... interesting :footinmou

[sylvan8798]

A news video with some more shots:

http://multimedia.asiaone.com/Multimedia/News/Story/A1Multimedia20090628-7090.html

If you pause about half-way, you can see that there is a large sort of berm, with a wall and the river to the right. I'd be a little nervous about buying a unit in the building just beyond the collapsed one...

[Toke]

Looks to me like the foundation was a concrete plate with concrete pipes sticking out the bottom. That is they dug in the pipes, then poured the foundation.
The soil got soggy enough for it to tip over.

I am impressed that the building is still in one piece, or at least the pieces are still together.

[Thunder]

Looks to me like the foundation was a concrete plate with concrete pipes sticking out the bottom. That is they dug in the pipes, then poured the foundation.
The soil got soggy enough for it to tip over.

I am impressed that the building is still in one piece, or at least the pieces are still together.

Chinese Communist construction methods. Oy.

[alexi_drago]

Good grief, I don't think I'd be moving into any of the remaining properties there.

Looks to me like the foundation was a concrete plate with concrete pipes sticking out the bottom.

More like a concrete grid with big holes in it than a plate. There may have been steel rod or something through the tubes, one or two have something sticking out the end and some are bent but still connected. Whether or not that's the case and whether or not they were anchored to something deeper it's a bizarre foundation.

[Toke]

For a one story house I have seen foundation made by digging a trench around the floorplan, filling it with concrete foundation blocks, and then pouring the whole plate/floor.

Here the plate have trenches with pipes in it at regular intervals.
Still, obviusly not good enough for these soil conditions. (not sure what would be?)

[bje]

The cut pipes prove Thor-mete (Thermite for concrete). Pictures don't lie.

[Justin39640]

toy factory?
they must have put all the lead for the paint on the one side of the building
;) lol

[KDLarsen]

Bugger, looks like I'll have to change my usual retort to truthers who harp on about WTC7 "looking like controlled demolition". Because in this case it really looks like the building did a backflip ;)

[sylvan8798]

The foundation "poles" appear to be hollow for all but the top 3-4 feet, and have a minimal amount of rebar. Who designs foundations like this?