July Stundie Nominations [Archive]

Grizzly Bear

3rd July 2009, 03:24 PM

Nom nom nom nom nom nom.... mine mine mine....

Less the 15% you estimate that would leave enough concrete in he rubble to make a single homogenous block of concrete one acre in area and about 10 feet tall. Break that up into the rockery sized pieces I have seen and you should have absolute mountains of the stuff. I see no trace of quantities like this in any photograph I have seen.
EDIT: Removing images at attempt to humor

Something tells me that at 208' x 208' x 4" concrete isn't going to stand having a building crash down on it in quite the same way as yummy pancakes or thick floor slabs from a smaller building stack up. Does this sound like a nominee?

Travis

3rd July 2009, 06:48 PM

Nom nom nom nom nom nom.... mine mine mine....

EDIT: Removing images at attempt to humor

Something tells me that at 208' x 208' x 4" concrete isn't going to stand having a building crash down on it in quite the same way as yummy pancakes or thick floor slabs from a smaller building stack up. Does this sound like a nominee?

Um, yeah. Duh.:D;)

triforcharity

3rd July 2009, 08:19 PM

Deleated, sorry. My mistake.

Travis

3rd July 2009, 08:27 PM

We've had a lot of new people lately. Of course I think that is a good thing.

Grizzly Bear

3rd July 2009, 08:33 PM

Um, yeah. Duh.:D;)
In that case PANCAKES FOR ALL!!!
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8809/pancake.jpg

Travis

3rd July 2009, 11:02 PM

That's a lot of pancakes. Does anyone seriously eat that much?

Minadin

4th July 2009, 01:41 AM

I dont know why you bother,ED.
Watching your video that is a little over 2 minutes long i found a mistake.
You say the Boston Globe had the seating arrangements which had the hijackers names and it was NOT a manifest. But we clearly see in the top left corner "American Airlines Flight Manifest". Debunked.

Tweeter argues that the hijackers DID appear on the flight manifest. I'm not exactly sure what sort of truther point he's trying to help here, though.

Cl1mh4224rd

4th July 2009, 12:55 PM

Tweeter argues that the hijackers DID appear on the flight manifest. I'm not exactly sure what sort of truther point he's trying to help here, though.

Tweeter's a troll. He may also be a truther, but his primary activity on this forum is trolling. So he's not trying to make a "truther point" here; he's just trying to score imaginary points and ruffle some feathers by proving a "debunker" wrong, even if it means proving parts of the generally accepted account right. He doesn't care about that.

realpaladin

4th July 2009, 02:57 PM

I nominate Herzblut for the following post:
The guide states: In case of any discrepancies with reality, it is reality that has gotten it wrong.In reality, there's no global warming for a decade despite significant industrial CO2 emissions. Hence, the presumptive fact that "increase of CO2 in the atmosphere results in a global warming" is false or at least wrongly stated.

In an AGW thread... don't know if it counts.

I was trolling with a reference to THHGTTU by Adams and I got a serious response.

J. Wellington Wimpy

4th July 2009, 03:49 PM

Nominating hardy woo perennial bill smith for this Worm Ouroboros-like exercise in perfectly circular "logic (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4872536&postcount=52)":

"Until you guys perform a peer reviewed study of why Bentham is not a legitinate source for the peer review of scientific papers they (and the Jones- Harrit paper) stand unopposed and unchallenged in any way that counts.."

:boggled:

Travis

4th July 2009, 04:23 PM

I nominate Herzblut for the following post:

In an AGW thread... don't know if it counts.

I was trolling with a reference to THHGTTU by Adams and I got a serious response.

Well, the AGW deniers usually allege there is a conspiracy so it would count in that way.

realpaladin

4th July 2009, 04:36 PM

Well, the AGW deniers usually allege there is a conspiracy so it would count in that way.
Problem is Herzblut does not do the denying...

triforcharity

4th July 2009, 08:30 PM

Hello.
Why dont we do a World Trade Center in a virtual world......
It will all be moderated by people from 911 truth groups and likewise that people trust.
If it all work out the truth will be revealed of what happened but in the virtual world.
......
Regards M.Sc. Magnus

Highlight mine. This is some idea for a virtual world vidoe game, but on a sick and tristed idea.

Sword_Of_Truth

4th July 2009, 10:04 PM

I'm going with a subtly different nomination than Triforcharity. The "people trust truthers" remark is stundieable to be certain. But so to is the larger concept of a 9/11 MMORPG.

Can we nominate the same post twice for different but equally retarded reasons?

Hello.
Why dont we do a World Trade Center in a virtual world like Second Life or similar programs but with a moving background scenary of the plane krasches, then the fires and the collaps (explosions) of the buildings.
Like a virtual movie of the catastrofy with a time line through the event.

Then make it possible for people who experienced the event to log in with his own virtual person before it happens and walk around in the event as they did in reallity 9/11 2001 and show people where they were when they saw something. They stop the time and set a marker on the position and time that they witness something and then write, set up pictures and videos that they have.
Then they start the time again and walk, drive and so on to the next place of the disaster where they saw, heard or experienced things, set a marker and set up the information.
Then when thousands of people set up where they where and where they walked, ran or drove a car, people then will be able to see the WTC filled with virtual people who move around in the city and its buildings.
Viewer can then stop the time at any moment of the disaster and zoom in on any place on the street or in a building and read what people experienced at that time by clicking on the person and get the information.

I really want to know where people where in the buildings when they heard explosions and so on.

This would be a open environment so that any whitness can log in and set up theire story. And anybody is allowed to get a copy of the virtual world so they can help build it up with details that is relevant to the catastofic event.
It will all be moderated by people from 911 truth groups and likewise that people trust.
If it all work out the truth will be revealed of what happened but in the virtual world.

It would also be interesting to do other events in history by this way like wars and other disasters and why not social events that people and groups of people have experienced or that historians can build so that people can see what happened in the past, but as a virtual world event.
In this way people can see the event just as they want from any position with any zoom.
If you want to see it all from one person you just follow him through the event or if you want to see it the next time from a fire truck you just follow that one as a invisible flying camera.

Do you want it?

Regards M.Sc. Magnus

240-185

4th July 2009, 11:18 PM

Sheet, I wanted to report that post for the Stundies, but somebody already did it :D

triforcharity

4th July 2009, 11:23 PM

Just remember to vote for it!! Its a doozie!!

Mel Odious

4th July 2009, 11:31 PM

Highlight mine. This is some idea for a virtual world vidoe game, but on a sick and tristed idea.

Magi has started a thread with this at the 9/11 Truth Movement Forums (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=6831) as well. I'm providing a link because I figure there might be a good Stundie nomination or two to be had when the twoofers over there start posting responses.

Mel Odious

4th July 2009, 11:35 PM

I'm not nominating this, but it is the funniest bit I saw at the David Icke Forums this evening.

I think you can guess who said it.

Here is a 279 page thread where I badly bruised the JREF contingent with evidence and reason. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1094631&postcount=13)

(Link mercifully removed)

Travis

5th July 2009, 12:42 AM

I've seen some creative spelling in my day but "krasches" takes it to a whole 'nother level. Awesome nomination the both of you.

I find it amusing that even the Ickeites think Christophera is delusional.

Stacko

5th July 2009, 09:34 AM

Think you're alive, think again. Octopusrex is on to you.

Not just reptilians.

But "reptilian" is actually not exactly correct. I think of them more like zombies. The walking dead. 1 out of 100 humans is actually alive.

My hunch: it has to do with awareness, chakra activation and other stuff.

Now those birds, they were just pointing out to you that they are empathic to your needs.

Or maybe they were trying to tell you about your totem animal.

Link. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1090944&postcount=2)

triforcharity

5th July 2009, 11:36 AM

1 out of 100 humans are alive??? I think this might be factually incorrect, but I could be dead.......

Red3

5th July 2009, 11:44 AM

Can you nominate a person for general all round lunacy?

triforcharity

5th July 2009, 12:57 PM

Here is one I found from some guy named "JFK". Its a doozie. Some guy named Beantownfan247 brings up the CD thing. Here is his response.

....

Ok, so you guys (nobody in preticular) say that because the debris were spread out all over the area, that it was a CD. But yet, WTC7 was also a controlled demolition but its debris was in a relitively contained pile. (Minus the fact that 2 other buildings were severely damaged because of the collapse) So, how can it be both??

Here is JFK's Response??
Wrong.

We argue that it was a CD because of all the steel failing in the manner in which it did.

If a legitimate CD team had been called to demolish the towers they would not have achieved as good of a result IMO.

Hilite mine. So, he's saying that an ILLEGITIMATE did a BETTER job than the EXPERTS!!!

WTH????

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/99915/8/?x=0

Here's the link. Beantownfan247 has been going back and fourth with them for a few pages at this point. Pretty smart guy.

Horatius

5th July 2009, 06:40 PM

Here's one that may be a bit to personal to me to win the Stundies, but:

Guess what WORDS ARE MAGIC. We Spell em out. Language isnt normal, its a remarkable phenom that we somehow created.

It's funny to me, because it showed up in a thread where, very early on, I had posted this:

...you will magically become "subject" to the "admiralty court" ...

This is it in a nutshell. It's classical magical thinking applied to the Court system.

In a lot of magical traditions, knowing the "true name" of a person or entity allows you to gain power over them. This is just a modern twist on this old, old notion.

Thanks to Bluekush623 for so clearly demonstrating my point.

:)

Travis

5th July 2009, 09:07 PM

Can you nominate a person for general all round lunacy?

What exactly do you mean?

Here's one that may be a bit to personal to me to win the Stundies, but:

It's funny to me, because it showed up in a thread where, very early on, I had posted this:

Thanks to Bluekush623 for so clearly demonstrating my point.

:)

Heh. Pretty good. That's a funny thread.

sylvan8798

5th July 2009, 10:17 PM

jhunter1163

6th July 2009, 01:09 AM

I miss the joys of the LCF since I got myself banned over there...

*cough*proxyserver*cough*

Red3

6th July 2009, 02:00 AM

What exactly do you mean?

Not just nominate them for one particular theory or comment but a whole bunch of them. A kind of lifetime achievement award!

JoeyDonuts

6th July 2009, 02:36 AM

Thanks to Bluekush623 for so clearly demonstrating my point.

:)

Ahhh yes. Because, as we all know, modern conventions of government were inspired by the Sci-Fi orignal movie "The Legend of Earthsea."

Well, it did have Kristin Kreuk in it.

Minadin

6th July 2009, 09:42 AM

I know Bill's generally aiming for an award, but in so doing he's aptly demonstrated the average conspiracy theorist's inability to grasp basic mathematical concepts:

You may be misunderstanding me. I do not say there is NO wire mesh. I say that there is far too little by dozens of orders of magnitude.

(Bolding mine)

I think it's funny because an order of magnitude is an easily graspable concept, but he doesn't seem to be able to see what the implications of multiplying these to absurdly out of proportion ratios.

One order of magnitude: 10:1
Six orders of magnitude: 1,000,000:1
Twelve orders of magnitude: 1,000,000,000,000:1

Multiple dozens of orders of magnitude: ???

Very basic, common logarithmic scale (http://forums.randi.org/wiki/Logarithmic_scale) stuff.

Horatius

6th July 2009, 11:54 AM

One order of magnitude: 10:1
Six orders of magnitude: 1,000,000:1
Twelve orders of magnitude: 1,000,000,000,000:1

Multiple dozens of orders of magnitude: ???

Very basic, common logarithmic scale (http://forums.randi.org/wiki/Logarithmic_scale) stuff.

Maybe it's homoeopathic mesh? :boxedin:

triforcharity

6th July 2009, 02:20 PM

Or maybe Nano-thermite impregnated, ultra low noise, no flash, invisible nanothermite.

Hush a boom!! This cracks me up every time.

realpaladin

6th July 2009, 02:22 PM

http://www.greyfalcon.us/restored/Antarctica.htm

So cool! All we need is Indiana Jones!

dudalb

6th July 2009, 03:44 PM

1 out of 100 humans are alive??? I think this might be factually incorrect, but I could be dead.......

Did World War Z happen over the weekend, and now 99 out of a 100 humans are now among the Undead?

IMST

6th July 2009, 04:29 PM

Did World War Z happen over the weekend, and now 99 out of a 100 humans are now among the Undead?

brains...

Nick Terry

6th July 2009, 04:51 PM

I feel I ought to highlight a potential lodemine of woo for those seeking new sources of nuclear-grade stupid, namely an interminable (2557 post) 9/11 thread (http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=36554) on the Phora, a place I once described (http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/06/who-created-hoax-inquiring-minds-would.html) as the "playground of demented young pseudo-intellectual racialist fruitloops the world over"

This example can probably be outdone from the self-same thread, but has a certain charm to it, not least for the total disjuncture between the two sentences.

Originally posted by calvin (http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?p=728291#post728291)

9/11 was pulled off by PNAC and the Neocons. We will find out how they did it when a real investigation is conducted sometime in the future after the collapse of the globalist imperium.

Horatius

6th July 2009, 04:53 PM

Did World War Z happen over the weekend, and now 99 out of a 100 humans are now among the Undead?

I'm more worried about the kittehs! (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4874299#post4874299)

Nick Terry

6th July 2009, 04:59 PM

brains...

That takes me back about ten years (http://www.brains4zombies.com/)...

triforcharity

6th July 2009, 08:42 PM

.

Perhaps the comforting silence is because you've out-foxed, out-thunk and out-debated everyone with whom you've crossed swords.

Yeah, Chris. I guess that's one possibility...

Tom

But not the correct one.

This I just had to laugh about. I didn't caatch it the first time, untill someone else (TFK specifically) pointed it out.

So, partial credit to TFK. WOOO HOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! I got two this month!!

defaultdotxbe

6th July 2009, 08:52 PM

Did World War Z happen over the weekend, and now 99 out of a 100 humans are now among the Undead?

brains...
id better grow some pea shooters (http://plantsvszombies.wikia.com/wiki/Peashooter)

dudalb

6th July 2009, 09:40 PM

id better grow some pea shooters (http://plantsvszombies.wikia.com/wiki/Peashooter)

Nah, give me one of the cabbage catapults....

Travis

6th July 2009, 10:06 PM

Summer does seem to bring out the best wrong ideas from the loons.

GlennB

7th July 2009, 08:19 AM

Horatius

7th July 2009, 08:22 AM

Klimax

7th July 2009, 09:03 AM

sts60

7th July 2009, 11:38 AM

Apollo paranoia from David C at Loose Change forum, here (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/51606/34/):

"The evidence that Clavius and Bad Astronomy are government damage-control sites is so damning that the moderators at pro-Apollo sites refuse to even let it be discussed.

You can pretend all you want but I assure you that you look very silly when you play down the importance of the evidence that Clavius and Bad Astronomy are government damage-control sites whose regular pro-Apollo forum posters know perfectly well that Apollo was faked."

eta: booger, it was June. I'm sure he'll pipe up again tho.
Good old paranoid, clueless David. He played cat-toy for a while on Bad Astronomy (http://www.bautforum.com) and apollohoax (apollohoax.proboards.com) before ultimately getting banned for failure to back up his incessant claims we were all gubmint agents.

He was very good at making claims which were quickly and thoroughly debunked, refusing to do any work that might verify or disprove his claims, and rejecting any and all evidence presented which did not fit his worldview. This led to some amusing gyrations; he ultimately wound up denying that the South Atlantic Anomaly even existed.

Best of all, IMHO, was when I finally took up his longstanding claim that the "lurkers and viewers" on the board (apollohoax) knew what was going on, and agreed with him that we are all disinformation agents, etc. I opened a thread inviting all such folks to delurk and chime in with their opinions. Eighteen new people (I did not include those I was familiar with from other fora) piped up, every one of them disagreeing with him and several questioning his mental health.

Red3

7th July 2009, 02:11 PM

Can I nominate this guy - dodeca, for starting the thread below?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39491&page=1&pp=10

Some will ask where is the blue in the last one,well out of the pump comes water and that is blue.:D

GlennB

7th July 2009, 03:20 PM

Oh my god. Look what I found in that thread.....

http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=260260&t=51606

I'm shocked, shocked.

ULTIMA1 saying something reasonable? :eye-poppi

Don't delve too deep. I think I noticed ULTIMA1 saying a fair collection of reasonable things. I might have gone dizzy after the first one though.

GlennB

7th July 2009, 03:23 PM

Good old paranoid, clueless David. He played cat-toy for a while on Bad Astronomy (http://www.bautforum.com) and apollohoax (http://apollohoax.proboards.com) before ultimately getting banned for failure to back up his incessant claims we were all gubmint agents.

He was very good at making claims which were quickly and thoroughly debunked, refusing to do any work that might verify or disprove his claims, and rejecting any and all evidence presented which did not fit his worldview. This led to some amusing gyrations; he ultimately wound up denying that the South Atlantic Anomaly even existed.

Best of all, IMHO, was when I finally took up his longstanding claim that the "lurkers and viewers" on the board (apollohoax) knew what was going on, and agreed with him that we are all disinformation agents, etc. I opened a thread inviting all such folks to delurk and chime in with their opinions. Eighteen new people (I did not include those I was familiar with from other fora) piped up, every one of them disagreeing with him and several questioning his mental health.

Ahah! Now I can probably work out who you are. Luckily we're all NWO agents, so it's just an academic exercise.

p.s. can your space-dog make it through the Van Allen belts OK ?

Grizzly Bear

7th July 2009, 09:19 PM

The plane simply opened up a passageway for some liquid steel to flow out while the majority flowed down the elevator shafts.

The steel supports COLUMNS do not go throughout the entire floor plan they are all located at the core.

Which reminds me, the one plane that hit the corner of the tower likely did not hit one single support column.The plane simply opened up a passageway for some liquid steel to flow out while the majority flowed down the elevator shafts.

The steel supports COLUMNS do not go throughout the entire floor plan they are all located at the core.

Which reminds me, the one plane that hit the corner of the tower likely did not hit one single support column.

Perimeter columns! I'll be damned if they hold the structure up!!! I'll be DAMNED!!!! :boggled:

(double stundie)

http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/september-11th/58603-molten-steel-picture-2.html#post1375662

EDIT:

I hope you guys don't mind me highlighting multiple stundies from a single person. I hit a jackpot

This picture also shows that if there was any collapse at all the floors would have collapsed around the support columns and the columns should have stood in the air like spaghetti noodles while the debris fell around them.
The lower floors should have stood because any weight and debris would have been shed outward.
http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/september-11th/58603-molten-steel-picture-3.html#post1376150

To be fair, the cores actually did stand but the reason for the stundie nomination here is he seems to think that the columns should have permanently supported their entire unbraced lengths.

dudalb

8th July 2009, 02:40 PM

I am going to make a prediction: The Woo Flood about those Evul Masons which will erupt after Dan Brown' next novel is published in September will provide quite a few Studie nominees this fall.

Red3

8th July 2009, 06:39 PM

I am going to make a prediction: The Woo Flood about those Evul Masons which will erupt after Dan Brown' next novel is published in September will provide quite a few Studie nominees this fall.

You should be more understanding; anyone who believes Dan Brown (and a million other things) as being fact have been failed by the system. The only reason woo works is it fits into the gaps in knowledge and understanding. :) ******** fiction's easier to understand than fundamental scientific principles for most people.

Alareth

8th July 2009, 06:41 PM

Dave is on to the true sinister reason the iPhone doesn't have a removable battery:

One thing that bugs me about the iPhone is the innability to remove the battery. And not because I think I'm going to drain the phone ... but because it essentially turns your cell phone into a tracking device that cannot be disabled. I kind of like having the ability to turn big brother off when I choose to do so. And frankly, I'm not entirely convinced that "off" is really "off" on these things.

From the comments on this Engadget article http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/07/sprint-no-longer-selling-pre-over-the-phone/#comments

240-185

8th July 2009, 11:48 PM

I was sure! Anyway, the default wallpaper on iPhones is the Earth, and it is proof that Apple is a NWO patsie!!!111!!!!

UNLoVedRebel

9th July 2009, 02:15 AM

Obama would not be caled "The Black Lincoln" were he white.

This is a general statement that could go in the conspiracy category.

Toke

9th July 2009, 04:47 AM

This is a general statement that could go in the conspiracy category.

And Thacher would not have been called "the iron lady" if she had been male?

Blender Head

9th July 2009, 09:58 AM

Re: Michael Jackson's "Ghost" (Read: Shadow of an employee) at Neverland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y3jlzS_BZc&feature=email):

dude ghost exists just bcuz other people tell u they dont exist doesnt mean they do besides ghost r proven 2 b real

Cl1mh4224rd

9th July 2009, 07:42 PM

Re: Michael Jackson's "Ghost" (Read: Shadow of an employee) at Neverland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y3jlzS_BZc&feature=email):

Ghostbusters was a documentary.

Dave Rogers

10th July 2009, 07:33 AM

Here's a neat piece of excessive precision from our resident Libertarian thread derailer.

the odds of any alleged government conspiracy theory being true are more like 1 in 5 rather than 1 in 720.

Any alleged government conspiracy theory. That means that, of the 50 or so mutually contradictory theories put forward by the truth movement, about 10 are true. A beautiful piece of proof by assertion.

Dave

dudalb

10th July 2009, 12:39 PM

Alex Libman goes batcrap crazy and advoctaes the murder of Federal Law Enforcements officers:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4892397

Lucky that you can give a Stundie to a non member,since Alex is obviously attempting suicide by Mod with inflammatory stuff like this.

Mel Odious

10th July 2009, 10:40 PM

Here's an interesting one:

She was coronated on June 2nd, 1953. (2/6/53)
52 years, 1 month, 5 days) later: 52 people murdered.

She became Queen on 6th February, 1952. (6/2/52)
53 years, 5 months, 1 day later, 52 people were murdered.

So much symmetry it burns the eyes.

(bolding as in original post (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1106714&postcount=31) - Mel.)

Thread Title: 7/7 Was for Queen Elizabeth's Jubilee (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71691)

That entire thread is a Stundie goldmine. Feel free to do some prospecting!

Mel Odious

10th July 2009, 10:52 PM

Same guy, next page:

I'd imagine they would have run highly accurate computer simulations to calculate the number of fatalities these bombs were going to produce, occult implications or not.

It wouldn't then be difficult to adjust that number down slightly to guarantee 52 fatalities wasn't exceeded. Easy to then allow a few more of the seriously wounded to die amidst the chaos or behind closed doors to hit the right mark.

And/or, could it be possible that once they had all their occult dates and numbers aligned correctly and invoked the appropriate demon, it then became a certainty that he'd show up and guarantee the right number of deaths?

If powerful occult practitioners really did have the ability to invoke demons and receive reliable information about future events, then not much about any of that seems too implausible to me.

Perhaps 52 innocent victims was the target, and the extra 4 terrorists, being complicit in the ritual itself (albeit under the impression that they were participating in a training exercise) were irrelevant to that.

Link. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1107210&postcount=46)

I'm just nominating the two highlighted paragraphs. The idea that the murderous occultists who secretly rule the world would run computer simulations to help make sure they don't kill too many people in a blood sacrifice for an aging British queen's jubilee is about the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

dudalb

10th July 2009, 11:06 PM

UNLoVedRebel

11th July 2009, 12:42 AM

You are never more incoherent then when you talk about 9/11.

What better way to describe incoherency than to make an incoherent statement.

Klimax

11th July 2009, 08:34 AM

This is good news indeed. The truth Movement can only advance from this. Even this no doubt sanitised version will contain information they did not intend to make known. That's the benefit of having hundreds of thusands if not millions of dedicated researchers all around the world.

You debunkers can see if you can find something too though from long experience we will look very carefully at whatever you find. We don't trust anything about the 9/11 commission report as you know.

Bolded and underlined.
Similar to CIA trustwortiness...

Toke

11th July 2009, 08:41 AM

Alex suceeded in his suicide attempt.

Even if not specificaly in the MA there could be a law against advocating murder, particulary of federal employees.
The ban notice suggest so.

thought_fugitive

11th July 2009, 01:52 PM

Hey everyone! I rather unexpectedly discovered a nomination in an interesting corner of the internet - craigslist discussions. The poster seems to have the same arrogance and idiocy as regular truthers, however the talking points are a bit antiquated.

link: http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/pol/1250859204.html

post in its entirety:
if you believe your government is telling the truth and you really think terrorists had anything to do with 9/11. Your completely emotionally blinded by your government or you literally a complete retard. Go understand basic physics and you will realize there is just way to many first times for a collapsing skyscrapers. Example: each tower fell in less than 10 seconds (supposedly a "pancake collapse"). Now try and clap your hands 110 times in 10 seconds. Bring on the crazy talk, I still dont see your evidence.

The half arguments, poor grammar, and truly absurd fallacies are nothing unusual. However, I think with such experimental methodology as "trying to clap your hands 110 times in 10 seconds," this poster is going to be one of the crown jewels of the new independent investigation! Bring on the crazy talk, gubmint!

:boggled:

Juniversal

11th July 2009, 03:46 PM

I've got a nice collection of youtube quotes that i've saved for pure hilarity or logic. Youtube is a breeding ground for great stundie quotes.

From the 9/11 Truthinator video - 4th july Parade 9/11Protester ARRESTED.
When molten metal & thermite are buried under tremendous weight the PRESSURE causes the metal to remain molten for WEEKS. If you put ALL that material in a PRESSURIZED chamber it would probably burn for YEARS! Are you saying the video of molten metal at ground zero & the thermal imaging from NASA are lying, too? The thermal imaging shows temperatures of over 1200 degrees burning under the rubble for WEEKS.Apparently pressure can cause metal to remain molten for weeks or even years. :rolleyes: Logic be damned.

Cl1mh4224rd

11th July 2009, 03:46 PM

[...] I think with such experimental methodology as "trying to clap your hands 110 times in 10 seconds," [...]

Sounds like a variation of Sofia Shafquat's "clunkity-clunk" argument.

UNLoVedRebel

12th July 2009, 12:38 AM

Consider WTC 1 upper part C as a hen egg and the lower part A as something "stronger" than a hen egg and you are on your way to better understanding reality!

King Heiwa reigns supreme.

Red3

12th July 2009, 03:34 AM

I think the title says it all:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14564

240-185

12th July 2009, 03:44 AM

"I don't see why it's dumb to think that 80% of the population must be killed" (http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/Discussions/politique/bilderberg-planetaire-mondial-sujet_79716_182.htm#t19133329)

C'est quoi le rapport entre d'un côté des êtres humains qui ont un caractère, des projets et des ambitions et de l'autre côté la science. Qu'est ce qu'il y a d'irrationnel dans le fait que des personnes qui détiennent le pouvoir veulent instaurer une dictature mondiale et éradiquer 80% de la population dans un but de survie écologique et pour conserver ce système qui leur assure leurs pouvoirs. C'est complètement rationnel au contraire.

=>

What's the connection between humans who have feelings, projects and ambitions from one side, and science from the other? What's irrational in the fact that some people who have the power want to settle a worldwide dictatorship and eradicate 80% of the population in the ecological plot to survive and keep that system which guarantees them their powers. It's completely rational.

Elizabeth I

12th July 2009, 10:34 AM

I think the title says it all:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14564

WHAT? You mean I quit for no good reason?

Dave Rogers

13th July 2009, 02:45 AM

This one doesn't work without context - in fact, it's purely about context - so it won't stand a gun-toting cat in hell's chance of making the finals, but I thought it better to comment on it here rather than further polluting one of the most informative threads the 9/11 CT subforum has had this year. Here's bill smith's response to the release of the 9/11 Commission's records:

This is good news indeed. The truth Movement can only advance from this. Even this no doubt sanitised version will contain information they did not intend to make known. That's the benefit of having hundreds of thusands if not millions of dedicated researchers all around the world.

You debunkers can see if you can find something too though from long experience we will look very carefully at whatever you find. We don't trust anything about the 9/11 commission report as you know.

So what's funny about this? Well, this is bill responding to the OP at post 427 in the thread. Mike Williams has been delving into these records since mid-January, and finding numerous pieces of information that completely blow various truther arguments out of the water, yet bill smith is suddenly (and belatedly) hailing it as a new truther holy grail.

I have an image of him or her, standing at the finish line of a race that was over six months ago, still cheering for the horse that finished in last place.

Dave

IMST

13th July 2009, 04:18 PM

Here's one that entertained me:
NASA IS NOT A PUBLIC ORGANIZATION. READ THEIR CHARTER. THEY ARE PART OF THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. THEY WENT TO THE MOON ONCE AND DID NOT LIKE WHAT THEY FOUND. THEIR DESTINY. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY NEVER WENT BACK. THE MOON IS HOLLOW, NOT A MOON AT ALL. A SPACE STATION BUILT BY THE BOYS ZACHARIA SITCHENS WROTE ABOUT. HUMANS WERE TOLD TO GET OFF AND STAY OFF. DURING TRANSMISSIONS BETWEEN THE MOON LANDING CRAFT AND HOUSTON CONTROL THE CODE WORD FOR ALIEN SIGHTING WAS SANTA CLAUSE. WHENEVER A CRAFT WAS SIGHTED SHADOWING THE LUNAR MODULE THE ASTRONAUT WOULD RADIO THAT THEY HAVE SIGHTED SANTA AND HIS REINDEERS IF MORE THAN ONE UFO CRAFT. THIS IS TRUTH.
link (http://www.prisonplanet.com/bill-banning-forced-identity-chip-implants-clears-house.html#comments)
Unfortunately, this one's in the middle of the comments somewhere. Best to search by a couple words in the quote if you want to see the original. Emphasis mine, ALLCAPS original.

Cl1mh4224rd

13th July 2009, 04:30 PM

[...] yet bill smith is suddenly (and belatedly) hailing it as a new truther holy grail.

And then poops all over his own claim by saying, "We don't trust anything about the 9/11 commission report as you know."

defaultdotxbe

13th July 2009, 04:49 PM

Here's one that entertained me:

link (http://www.prisonplanet.com/bill-banning-forced-identity-chip-implants-clears-house.html#comments)
Unfortunately, this one's in the middle of the comments somewhere. Best to search by a couple words in the quote if you want to see the original. Emphasis mine, ALLCAPS original.
there arent many people on the side of woo, youd think theyd take care to remember their names (its Zecharia Sitchin, not Zacharia Sitchens)

FWIW his books are pretty interesting, even if batcrap crazy

Horatius

14th July 2009, 01:29 PM

I think the title says it all:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14564

"Says it all"? Not even close!

Alan Watt says so. I've had this theory in mind for sometime now. It's the most logical explanation for the WAR on smokers. Apparantly us smokers are also more intelligent lol. And more awakened, to what's going on.

Each line just gets better and better....

Arus808

14th July 2009, 01:44 PM

"Says it all"? Not even close!

Each line just gets better and better....

in that same thread;

AND it has been shown to prevent Alzheimers disease too.

geezes...that forums is the sewer of stupidity

eta: my great uncle was a 60 year smoker. He developed dementia and also Alzheimers. He died 10 years ago to emphysema....so I dont know what study the idiot is pulling this crap from.

IMST

14th July 2009, 03:54 PM

Here's one that entertained me:

link (http://www.prisonplanet.com/bill-banning-forced-identity-chip-implants-clears-house.html#comments)
Unfortunately, this one's in the middle of the comments somewhere. Best to search by a couple words in the quote if you want to see the original. Emphasis mine, ALLCAPS original.

I'd been thinking about this since I first found the nomination I'm quoting above. I decided I couldn't resist actually doing it.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/180064a5cfe496e2cc.jpg

Blue Mountain

14th July 2009, 04:44 PM

in that same thread;

AND it has been shown to prevent Alzheimers disease too.
geezes...that forums is the sewer of stupidity

eta: my great uncle was a 60 year smoker. He developed dementia and also Alzheimers. He died 10 years ago to emphysema....so I dont know what study the idiot is pulling this crap from.
It makes sense, though. Alzheimer's is a disease that manifests itself with advancing age. If smokers die of lung cancer or emphysema before the symptoms of Alzheimer's become noticeable, that would reduce the rate of diagnosed Alzheimer's in that population.

Travis

15th July 2009, 02:30 AM

I'd been thinking about this since I first found the nomination I'm quoting above. I decided I couldn't resist actually doing it.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/180064a5cfe496e2cc.jpg

Priceless.:D

Red3

15th July 2009, 03:49 AM

in that same thread;

geezes...that forums is the sewer of stupidity

eta: my great uncle was a 60 year smoker. He developed dementia and also Alzheimers. He died 10 years ago to emphysema....so I dont know what study the idiot is pulling this crap from.

I think you're giving them far too much credit there...I don't think there is, nor will be a study; at least not one they've read! I think they just make stuff up and pass it on.

Dr Adequate

16th July 2009, 07:25 AM

Travis

16th July 2009, 08:27 AM

That's like the worst analogy......ever.

Grizzly Bear

16th July 2009, 05:19 PM

Screw Newton's laws of physics, bill smith's got his own:

Smith's Law
''Whatever downwards force the moving body exerts on the stationary body of identical construction fixed in the ground is reciprocated by the stationary body equally and oppositely. After that it depends which body is rendered non-viable by mutual erosion first.''

Horatius

16th July 2009, 09:07 PM

I think bill is channeling "Net Force = Zero" Boy. Whatever happened to that poor fellow?

Minadin

16th July 2009, 10:51 PM

A Birther writes: (http://washingtonindependent.com/51177/birther-soldier-fired-from-his-civilian-defense-contracting-job)
Well, as to cases, it took Edison a thousand or so tries before he found the right filament for the light bulb, so I'm not too shook up by a few hundred attempts.

:boggled:

Insanity. The proper analogy would be if he had tried the same damned material over and over until it finally worked. Of course, he didn't do that, because he wasn't stupid.

Travis

17th July 2009, 06:26 AM

It seems like the understanding of analogies is located in the same region of the brain that needs to be damaged to become a Conspiranoid Loon in the first place.

Trojan_Jockey

17th July 2009, 07:54 AM

Apparently there is no gravity on the moon. Newton got it all wrong.

From drc: "I've seen 0 gravity. Several times. And what that flag is doing can't be achieved if there is no gravity around."

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1124304&postcount=13

Travis

17th July 2009, 08:22 AM

I'd like to know what Apollo footage he was watching.

dudalb

17th July 2009, 11:16 AM

There seems to be a huge uptick in the acitivites of the Moonbat community with the 40 anniversary of the First Moon Landing coming up. This should furnish a lot of Stundie material.

Red3

17th July 2009, 02:06 PM

It worries me that the "theories" these people come up with are so easy to debunk, but it's nearly impossible to get them to listen when you do. It's like they have a mental block towards anything remotely sensible. That flag waving business makes my feckin' blood boil!

It's a while since I've seen it (years in fact) but doesn't it wobble cause he's trying to get the pole to stick in the ground?

Toke

17th July 2009, 02:56 PM

Yes, and it wobbles longer afterwods than you would expect to see in atmosphere.
If you have gravity and atmosphere, and the lack of it sufficiently mixed up that will clearly prove something or other.

Squidgy

17th July 2009, 09:30 PM

The stupidist comment I have ever seen(apart from some of my own of course)

how many "big name" conspiracy researchers do people need for gubbins sake? surely one is enough? aka if you've read david icke why do some people need to go on and check out other researchers? or if someone has listened to alex jones then why do they also need to follow icke? surely one researcher (whoever that be) is enough to give people the impetus to go on from there and do their own research?

it's the info that is important, not the person providing it.

Cl1mh4224rd

18th July 2009, 07:51 AM

The stupidist comment I have ever seen(apart from some of my own of course)

Nice!

(You need to include a link to it, though.)

Aitch

19th July 2009, 02:08 AM

I know this isn't a CT quote, and therefore isn't eligible, but it made me sit up and blink rapidly when I saw it. Its from a thread on GUT called Complexity-Whats in it for the universe?

how do the four fundamental forces explain mental activity, perception and consciousness ? I would suggest at least a fifth fundamental force, some kind of telepathy/resonance - not present during BB - how did any of them evolve ?

Travis

19th July 2009, 06:57 AM

The stupidist comment I have ever seen(apart from some of my own of course)

Nice, but I need to know the source.

Dr Adequate

19th July 2009, 08:10 AM

For best use of the phrase "out of the blue".

Isn't it pretty convenient hate crimes start appearing out of the blue as they were trying to pass this hate crime bill.

dtugg

19th July 2009, 02:10 PM

Rabid Holocast denying bigots say the darndest thing.

I have been told that on cheap vacations people have to wear badges with numbers on it. Not impressed. There is no difference between a numbered tattoo and your social security number. It's a way for the state to identify you.

Dr Adequate

19th July 2009, 06:08 PM

Least. Plausible. Fantasy. Ever.

America is a luxury European Civilization can no longer afford.

So you need to go. And that's what you will. And 9/11 will be the catalyst. And it will be brought about by a temporarily alliance between Europe, Russia, China, Japan, Iran and others and patriotic forces within the US (Constitutionalists, think Ron Paul). And after 9/11 will come the abolition of the FED, an institution captured by Jewish private bankers located in London in 1913 and currently costs Euro-America 40 million $ per hour on interest payments with which its complete political system is corrupted, bought and paid for.

Next we are going to liberate you. Ever.

Hokulele

19th July 2009, 08:54 PM

Least. Plausible. Fantasy. Ever.

Ever.

You know, I would be willing to start a consortium to raise the money to get Ron Paul to lead something like this.

Just think of the Comedy Central broadcast revenue...

Sword_Of_Truth

19th July 2009, 11:48 PM

Mac53 has a bizarre definition of "predicted 9/11":

This not specifically say 9/11. He does not say 9/11 is going ot happen on 9/11/2001. he does not say its the twin towers and he does not say those towers would collapse because airplanes hit them and fire burned em down.

But just because Bill Cooper predicted 9/11 does not mean 9/11 was an inside job.

Rogue1stclass

20th July 2009, 12:22 AM

Least. Plausible. Fantasy. Ever.

Ever.

I...I want to read the thread that caused that insane rant.

I love a good insane rant. Link?

Edit: Nevermind, I believe I found it.

shawmutt

20th July 2009, 12:53 AM

Klimax

20th July 2009, 02:26 AM

The stupidist comment I have ever seen(apart from some of my own of course)

google can't find it...

Klimax

20th July 2009, 03:31 AM

I'm telling you that a regular Linux cluster with comparable hardware specs could be put together for less than $20,000, using commodity hardware. What custom cards are you referring to?

Right.Computing cluster for really long running computation can be put together from consumer-grade parts.
(I do build computers and it is sometimes too easy to get bad motherboard or memory module...)

NWO Sentryman

20th July 2009, 04:51 AM

America is a luxury European Civilization can no longer afford.

So you need to go. And that's what you will. And 9/11 will be the catalyst. And it will be brought about by a temporarily alliance between Europe, Russia, China, Japan, Iran and others and patriotic forces within the US (Constitutionalists, think Ron Paul). And after 9/11 will come the abolition of the FED, an institution captured by Jewish private bankers located in London in 1913 and currently costs Euro-America 40 million $ per hour on interest payments with which its complete political system is corrupted, bought and paid for.

Next we are going to liberate you.

'Storming the opposite beach'.

Goodnight.
right, and Russia/America just agreed to reduce nuclear missiles as well as NATO still being around is just an illusion as well as Iran's election crisis.

dudalb

20th July 2009, 12:06 PM

Travis

20th July 2009, 01:07 PM

Damn,somebody beat me to 9/11 Investigator's "We Are Going To Invade America To Overthrow the Jews" rant.

If it was not for the Anti Semitism, I would suspect it of being a viral publicity stunt for a remake of "Red Dawn".

A Wolverines reference will have to accompany it should it make the finals.......and I'm betting it will.

dudalb

20th July 2009, 02:08 PM

A Wolverines reference will have to accompany it should it make the finals.......and I'm betting it will.

I almost was going to put "Wolverines!" in big block letters at the bottom of my post, but thought it was a little too obvious joke.

"Red Dawn" is one of those film that you know is pretty silly going in, but you like anyway.

NWO Sentryman

20th July 2009, 02:23 PM

I almost was going to put "Wolverines!" in big block letters at the bottom of my post, but thought it was a little too obvious joke.

"Red Dawn" is one of those film that you know is pretty silly going in, but you like anyway.

you should have put in "OPERATION SEALION!" It's a little private joke on the AH threads when someone mentions an invasion of britain.

IDK if Hitler had plans for invading the United States, but he'd be crazy to do so.

Justin39640

20th July 2009, 03:27 PM

i dont know if this has been stundied yet
but it was posted on youtube just a few days ago
IAk1V5lQFZI
2 parts of woo lol

Justin39640

20th July 2009, 03:56 PM

IDK how good this is
but apparently according to Deep44
the computers that the NIST used to build the collapse models did not have GPU's (graphics processing unit)

Why would I need GPUs to build a Linux cluster that is comparable to the cluster described by NIST in their report? They didn't use GPUs.

sylvan8798

20th July 2009, 06:53 PM

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4921018#post4921018

Some posters might appreciate this:

Angular momentum is defined as L = r X p, where r is a position vector from the body to the ORIGIN or point about which the body is rotating, p is the linear momentum of the body, and you are taking the cross product.
Response:

That's if you're talking about an individual particle. I'm guessing you googled this equation and missed that small point. Think about it for one second. If we are talking about a body like a planet rotating around its centre of mass then what is r? It can't be zero because to get the cross product (r x p) you start with the product of their magnitudes (rp). And if r is zero then p becomes meaningless (as 0p = 0). It can't be the radius of the body either because not all of the mass is located at that position.

I will give you 10/10 for effort though. Nice try. But this is not the way to combat truthers. I heard you can fight fire with fire but I don't think that applies in this instance.

Moral: Never try to combat truthers with actual physics.

Calculus, anyone?

dudalb

20th July 2009, 07:03 PM

Calculus is sort of useless as proof when you are dealing with somebody who probably does not grasp basic arithmetic.

Cl1mh4224rd

20th July 2009, 07:30 PM

Elizabeth I

20th July 2009, 08:18 PM

Calculus is sort of useless as proof when you are dealing with somebody who probably does not grasp basic arithmetic.

...and even with some of us who do grasp basic arithmetic...

:o

Slayhamlet

20th July 2009, 11:24 PM

Magi has started a thread with this at the 9/11 Truth Movement Forums (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=6831) as well. I'm providing a link because I figure there might be a good Stundie nomination or two to be had when the twoofers over there start posting responses.

There is indeed:

Magi, you wrote :

quote :
"The original disaster were filmed with cameras in set positions."

On what grounds/available evidence have you established for yourself this belief ?
Olie was trying to tell you that the 9/11 imagery was originally made in the virtual world.

Your idea is good - but founded on a wrong premise : that the 9/11 footage was filmed with real cameras. However, your idea (adequately revised) could serve an excellent, educational purpose : to show how, today, even a small-budget set-up could reproduce even superior virtual imagery than that sorry mess proposed on TV on September 11, 2001. In that sense, I'd encourage you to go ahead with such a project - although I cannot promise you my support...as I am by now pretty well fed-up with scanning virtual imagery :p!

These people are sad.

Mel Odious

21st July 2009, 12:13 AM

Your idea is good - but founded on a wrong premise : that the 9/11 footage was filmed with real cameras.

Sorry, everyone, I just can't help myself ...

:dl:

grmcdorman

21st July 2009, 09:01 AM

Category: Dazed and Confused

On the topic of the LRO (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/main/index.html) images of the Apollo landing sites (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html):

I have had been looking at the Apollo landing site pictures today.
Very poor quality and not much to see. What seemed really weird was that the
objects were a lot brighter than their surroundings and seemed to cast long straight shadows.

I wondered why no other object in the surrounding area cast shadows like the orbiters. (Linky (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread483424/pg#pid6735296). ATS, of course, 2nd home of the paranoid, after the David Icke forums.)

[For the slow: The landers - not orbiters - are not in areas where there are large boulders because, well, it would be a wee bit dangerous to land there, y'know. And long shadows? It's a lunar morning picture.]

grmcdorman

21st July 2009, 09:17 AM

Oh boy. The LRO images are really bringing them out. Another ATS thread:So couldn't we put bigger lens with a huge light on an orbiter?Yeah, that'd work. :rolleyes: (Linky (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread483085/pg7), currently second post on page 7.)

ETA: Point is "huge light", of course, not bigger lens.

triforcharity

21st July 2009, 11:27 AM

carlitos

21st July 2009, 04:27 PM

I win: 10s of thousands of Stundies:

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=RMINSD7MmT4

I even got in there somewhere with my own Stundie when I started accusing the moon landing deniers as being Chinese spies recruited to undermine the US government.
Thanks for that. Here's the topmost comment, from "erosensai"

Yea, its not hard to shoot a UMV on the moon soo idk why that was brought up, im talking about putting a man on the moon, having enough fuel and the cunning edge technology in order to do so man. Think about it, Technology has such a rapid rate of change, if we DID do that in 1969, why hasnt it been done already?

jaydeehess

21st July 2009, 04:38 PM

Planet X/ Niburu is sent by God to punish mankind. Its in da Bible!
The only ones who really know about this are those corrupt politicians who are preparing their lairs to attempt to survive.

Perhaps only the good will die young.

posted by fibrotj :

Ppl, get ready because according to a number of resources, Planet X should be making it's "entrance on the last stage-scene" very, very soon!! The stupid government thinks they have us ALL fooled, while they continue to build their underground "safehavens," allthewhile, taking more & more of the ppl's money, so they can afford their ongoing-construction of their underground fortresses!! God will see to their doom anyways...it's written in His Word in the last book of Revelations, and prophesied by numerous ancient Prophets including John the Revelator, Daniel, King David, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Isaiah, & Malachi...just to name a few!!!!

If there is anyone on here who does NOT know GOD & His son, Jesus Christ as Lord & Savior, I would KINDLY & with Love, suggest opening a Bible, & studying for yourself, the Holy Word of God!!! His Word has NEVER been off (in error), one inkling...every prophecy mentioned in the Bible has come to pass with 100% accuracy, & the prophecies yet to come...will certainly come to pass as well!!! GOD SAID SO!! NO OTHER PROPHET (aside from the prophets of God), can claim this...not even Nostradaumus!! JESUS IS COMING SOON...SO IS PLANET X!! Be ready!!

http://community.theblackvault.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1028

IMST

21st July 2009, 04:53 PM

This one's borderline given that it's mostly religion, but I think the research methods being employed here are rather similar to those used by our CT friends.
Atheists, how did leap year occur? While computing the days of rotation of earth around sun, one extra day..?
..was found which could not be adjusted since it wasn't a full day. So, the extra day was called a leap day which was added to every consecutive fourth year. Now, how did this occur? Where did this extra day come from?

In Bible, it says in the book of Joshua that God stopped Sun in the sky which did not move until Israelites won a war. It means, the rotation of the earth was stopped for sometime, which caused extra time requirement for the earth to finish its regular rotation around the sun, thus causing extra time added to the whole period of 365 days.

You see, everything is true in Bible when scientifically explore each of its incidents.

ETA: Forgot the link (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ag1emctK6XljkikvePy63O3d7BR.;_ylv=3?qid =20090714225527AAExOqy)

Obviousman

21st July 2009, 05:03 PM

Does have to be on this board? Anyway...

I just saw the photos! WHAT A JOKE!

It is obvious that NASA made an egregious mistake. The show SHADOWS OF
ALL THE LUNAR MODULES. This is ridiculous because THE ASTRONAUTS USED
THE LUNAR MODULES TO RETURN, otherwise they would still be on the moon!
This will not fool anyone except the public.

The modules (which they name on all photos) returned to the orbiter, allegedly.
Only thing left behind were the skinny base with pipe legs which would cast
miniscule shadows. What a gaffe!

They faked all previous photos. These seem to be faked also.

Jack

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/uploads/post-667-1248187371.jpg

The infamous Jack White.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14585&view=findpost&p=170106

grmcdorman

21st July 2009, 05:04 PM

Argh! Obviousman beats me to it by a minute!

However, check the immediately previous post to Mr. White's. The poster goes to the trouble of using the Orbiter sim to render the descent stage on the ground, in the lighting conditions corresponding to the LRO image (lunar afternoon). He then shows an overhead view at the same approximate scale as the LRO image - and it's nearly an exact match (different angle, slightly different shadow length).

Epic fail.

ETA: The render is of AS-506, i.e. Apollo 11. Mr. White's image, above, is of Apollo 14. The point stands, however.

Cl1mh4224rd

21st July 2009, 06:32 PM

This one's borderline given that it's mostly religion, but I think the research methods being employed here are rather similar to those used by our CT friends.

ETA: Forgot the link (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ag1emctK6XljkikvePy63O3d7BR.;_ylv=3?qid =20090714225527AAExOqy)

The Israelis won "a war" in 6 hours? In that case, did God really need to "stop the Sun"?

That's completely ignoring the fact that the Earth's rotation has absolutely nothing to do with the length of a year.

Unbelievable...

Elizabeth I

21st July 2009, 07:36 PM

Yea, its not hard to shoot a UMV on the moon soo idk why that was brought up, im talking about putting a man on the moon, having enough fuel and the cunning edge technology in order to do so man. Think about it, Technology has such a rapid rate of change, if we DID do that in 1969, why hasnt it been done already?

Oh, wow...I absolutely love the phrase "cunning edge technology." I may start a campaign to get it to replace "cutting edge..."

Myron Proudfoot

21st July 2009, 07:38 PM

Here's one that isn't quite a stundie, but certainly a good one.

"The low casualty count at the Towers and the minimal damage to neighboring structures or pedestrians made it possible for Rumsfeld and Cheney to stonewall any real investigations into the event."

Huh?? almost 3000 people killed, many BILLIONS of dollars of damage to other buildings, MANY of which didn't survive?? Ok, I can understand that.

Linky?? Yep. Here you go.

http://progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=218&topic_id=10676&mesg_id=10686

This forum is FULL of stundies. Too bad it is VERY difficult to navigate.

Ah yes, "Progressive Independent." Its membership is largely those who were kicked off of the Democratic Underground for refusing to keep their conspiracy posts in the designated forum (i.e. the Dungeon). The PI, also know as the "Pigsty," is also very anti-semetic and hardly "independent." If you don't agree with the mods (some of which, seriously, show signs of severe mental illness) you're booted off as a "shill."

Arus808

21st July 2009, 09:01 PM

Thanks for that. Here's the topmost comment, from "erosensai"

"erosensai" .. the guy could even get the NAME of a character correct (ero-sensei)

sylvan8798

21st July 2009, 10:12 PM

from the youtube moon landing comments:

If this interstellar travel and return from another world was in fact achieved 40 years ago, then it was the most monumental achievement accomplished by the human race. Why would you erase the film of it on purpose to save money when your budget its countless billions. This is what NASA is in fact telling us they did. I just can't *********** buy it. It's like 1000000 times worse than taping over your wedding with the superbowl.
Who is redoing the copies? Hollywood of course.

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=RMINSD7MmT4

Little did we know that our moon is attached to some other star...

SpitfireIX

21st July 2009, 10:58 PM

Oh, wow...I absolutely love the phrase "cunning edge technology." I may start a campaign to get it to replace "cutting edge..."

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/1706047fac2835f0ab.jpg

"I have a cunning plan, m'lord." :D

Travis

21st July 2009, 11:17 PM

Wow.....we have some good ones coming along this month.

Minadin

22nd July 2009, 12:57 AM

from the youtube moon landing comments:

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=RMINSD7MmT4

Little did we know that our moon is attached to some other star...

It was a soundstage on Mars (http://xkcd.com/202/).

Arus808

22nd July 2009, 01:17 AM

woot, just frm that one youtube video, a slew of stundies to pick from...oh this month JUST had to be the 40th anniversary of the Moon Landing....the kooks just came out in droves...

UNLoVedRebel

22nd July 2009, 02:49 AM

Calculus is sort of useless as proof when you are dealing with somebody who probably does not grasp basic arithmetic.

This is probably why they're anxious to make see-saw analogies.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=3963514#post3963514

grmcdorman

22nd July 2009, 09:13 AM

Jack White continues to view a different reality than the rest of this; immediately following a post where someone shows a freaking picture of the descent stage left behind on the moon (taken via the remote-controlled Lunar Rover camera):Did NASA booboo in saying LUNAR MODULES were left on the moon?

Linky. (http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14585&view=findpost&p=170127)

(There's an image in his post, but I can't view it. I suspect it's the same one as before, though, or nearly so.)

(Also read the text of the image in obviousman's post (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4927271#post4927271). Mr. White is still insisting the entire LM returned to orbit.)

Horatius

22nd July 2009, 10:07 AM

Jack White continues to view a different reality than the rest of this; immediately following a post where someone shows a freaking picture of the descent stage left behind on the moon (taken via the remote-controlled Lunar Rover camera):

Linky. (http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14585&view=findpost&p=170127)

(There's an image in his post, but I can't view it. I suspect it's the same one as before, though, or nearly so.)

(Also read the text of the image in obviousman's post (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4927271#post4927271). Mr. White is still insisting the entire LM returned to orbit.)

Forget photos, Mr. White makes with the funny just with language:

This will not fool anyone except the public.

"This won't fool anyone, just almost everybody..."

Oh, and:

Yeah, Jack is really grasping at straws with that one. Worthy of a Stundie, I think. (http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=14585&view=findpost&p=170119)

Fess Up! Who here is Evan? ;)

SpitfireIX

22nd July 2009, 10:15 AM

Jack White continues to view a different reality than the rest of this; immediately following a post where someone shows a freaking picture of the descent stage left behind on the moon (taken via the remote-controlled Lunar Rover camera):

Did NASA booboo in saying LUNAR MODULES were left on the moon?

Linky. (http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14585&view=findpost&p=170127)

I think Charles Babbage said it best, when he said, "I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint:

Travis

22nd July 2009, 12:00 PM

Forget photos, Mr. White makes with the funny just with language:

"This won't fool anyone, just almost everybody..."

Oh, and:

Fess Up! Who here is Evan? ;)

Awesome. The Stundie Movement spreads. Soon we* will get a Cracked article about it and then we will know we* have arrived.

*I have no idea who I am referring to with "we.":D

Blender Head

22nd July 2009, 12:08 PM

From here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=148639), regarding Bill Cooper's mental state:

Why would an obviously insane man be a threat to people?

Think about it...

UNLoVedRebel

22nd July 2009, 02:18 PM

He better not say that at Virginia Tech.

dudalb

22nd July 2009, 02:46 PM

And Cain, our self proclaimed contrarian, destroys whatever credibility he has left:

Good question. For reasons not unlike why I would have favored the Japanese or Germans taking over in World War II
:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp

Dave Rogers

23rd July 2009, 09:45 AM

This one has to go in here somewhere, as one of the most outstanding demonstrations of poor mathematical skills in the illustrious history of the 9/11 truth movement, that international centre of excellence for innumeracy.

Now that we all agree that 9/11 was an inside job [...]

"Federal officials either participated in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or took no action to stop them".
59% "not likely"

That's right; a truther is quoting a survey that gives 59% actively disagreeing with the primary tenet of the truth movement, as evidence that everybody now agrees with them. I'm not sure whether it's the incompetence or the lack of self-awareness that's more impressive.

Dave

NWO Sentryman

23rd July 2009, 10:37 AM

This one has to go in here somewhere, as one of the most outstanding demonstrations of poor mathematical skills in the illustrious history of the 9/11 truth movement, that international centre of excellence for innumeracy.

That's right; a truther is quoting a survey that gives 59% actively disagreeing with the primary tenet of the truth movement, as evidence that everybody now agrees with them. I'm not sure whether it's the incompetence or the lack of self-awareness that's more impressive.

Dave

Damn! Someone beat me to it

Travis

23rd July 2009, 01:25 PM

This one has to go in here somewhere, as one of the most outstanding demonstrations of poor mathematical skills in the illustrious history of the 9/11 truth movement, that international centre of excellence for innumeracy.

That's right; a truther is quoting a survey that gives 59% actively disagreeing with the primary tenet of the truth movement, as evidence that everybody now agrees with them. I'm not sure whether it's the incompetence or the lack of self-awareness that's more impressive.

Dave

I guess he interprets it as saying that it is possible, just not likely. I guess they take what they can in that department.

Mr.D

23rd July 2009, 03:49 PM

That's completely ignoring the fact that the Earth's rotation has absolutely nothing to do with the length of a year.

Unbelievable...

Errr ... When you're measuring the length of a year in terms of the number of rotations about the Earth's axis it does.

It doesn't invalidate the stundie nom though - I really have no idea why the one time period not being an integer multiple of the other should matter one iota to the atheists the OP is addressing (apart from potential tidal forces, but I'm sure that's way above the OP's head)

Cl1mh4224rd

23rd July 2009, 04:29 PM

Errr ... When you're measuring the length of a year in terms of the number of rotations about the Earth's axis it does.

D'oh. You're right.

Mel Odious

23rd July 2009, 11:05 PM

A new spin on the "they're trying to kill us with the swine flu vaccination" woo ...

Now call me crazy, I believe it is good to question everything. But suppose when the second strain comes, that strain may be harmful to the people and the masses that take the vaccine will be immunized from the flu. Now the people who have learned about what the vaccine could contain, won't take the shot and that could be used to cull alternative media followers such as you and I who have been warned not to take the vaccine if the second strain is in fact deadly or more harmful. This could at the same time be used to discredit alternative media by saying something like "See they thought they wouldn't get swine flu and look what happened".

You guessed it. DI Forums. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1141334&postcount=1)

sylvan8798

23rd July 2009, 11:08 PM

Checked in at LCF on the lab computer at work today (banned at home), and they have a randomly dumb thread going about sagging trusses in WTC. Didn't have time to pick up any of the posts, but the "Do You Ever Wonder" post about how the firemen reported the fires as being mostly out, "as you would expect in an office building", is amazing stupid. Looks like the guys over there are talking to themselves more and more these days...

jaydeehess

23rd July 2009, 11:46 PM

Title this one: "If two things occur on the same date they were arranged that way on purpose"

Another jewel from one of my favs at the Blackvault;

In response to one woo mentioning this;

"May seem like a small thing but you do know that September 11 was the day they broke ground on the Pentagon? Odd coincidence?"

Cole trickle writes:
Since 9-11 was a planned Military OP I see nothing odd about it, it's far from coincidence of any kind. The people who pull these kinds of things love to make it known, they want you to know as if to say " YEAH, WE DID IT NOW WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT?"

Some things are just too obvious when it comes to the lame cover up, one I found almost insulting was/were the actors who were already in place on 9-11. Fox just happened to be on the spot to interview these clowns as witnesses ( EYE WITNESSES ) that is, shortly after the collapse.

http://community.theblackvault.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=25&start=430

Travis

24th July 2009, 03:12 AM

A new spin on the "they're trying to kill us with the swine flu vaccination" woo ...

You guessed it. DI Forums. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1141334&postcount=1)

So......if we kill ourselves, through our own paranoid lunacy, it's still the other sides fault?????????????????????

Blender Head

24th July 2009, 11:44 AM

So......if we kill ourselves, through our own paranoid lunacy, it's still the other sides fault?????????????????????

Having your cake and eating too?

It's win friggin' win, baby!

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5176/griffinpeter.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/griffinpeter.jpg/)http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/griffinpeter.jpg/1/w344.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img194/griffinpeter.jpg/1/)

NWO Sentryman

24th July 2009, 11:46 AM

Travis

24th July 2009, 12:29 PM

Horatius

24th July 2009, 12:42 PM

I still can't get over that post where they say they wouldn't take the vaccine, even though it would save their lives, because they're afraid of some nebulous toxins! It's like refusing to put out the fire in your house because you're afraid of the fluoride in the water.

What I'm tyring to figure out is, do they think the "toxins" stories were created by the NWO in order to get them to refuse the vaccines?

Toke

24th July 2009, 02:00 PM

What I'm tyring to figure out is, do they think the "toxins" stories were created by the NWO in order to get them to refuse the vaccines?
No, it sounds more like they have seen through the NWO plot of controlling them through toxins in the vaccines, and are spreading the stories to those in the know.
Of course it could also be a NWO ploy within a rouse.

Horatius

24th July 2009, 02:07 PM

No, it sounds more like they have seen through the NWO plot of controlling them through toxins in the vaccines, and are spreading the stories to those in the know.
Of course it could also be a NWO ploy within a rouse.

A ploy within a ruse wrapped in a deception covered in subterfuge sauce with a trick on top.

sylvan8798

24th July 2009, 02:08 PM

that is because only dylan, korey and jason are on the LCF

well, and craig (shudder) and aldo...

Toke

24th July 2009, 02:17 PM

A ploy within a ruse wrapped in a deception covered in subterfuge sauce with a trick on top.
Yes, no wonder woo's appear confused.:D

defaultdotxbe

24th July 2009, 04:18 PM

IMST

24th July 2009, 04:25 PM

The Denver airport will be used as a transfer center for Christians and those who oppose the New World Order in the time of the end. It has a huge underground prison for detainees on their way to internment camps located through out America.
link (http://www.christianforums.com/t7386013/#post52398534)
If I were to be illegally detained at an airport due to my faith and opposition to a political aim, I can hardly think of a more senic one.
I wonder where they'll send the non-xians...

Cl1mh4224rd

24th July 2009, 04:45 PM

wait, the 2 tallest buildings in the city were hit by planes and been on fire for nearly an hour, and hes SURPRISED fox "just happened" to be on scene when they collapsed?

And not just that they were there, but that they actually interviewed people. It's highly suspicious for a news organization to do such a thing. :rolleyes:

defaultdotxbe

24th July 2009, 04:46 PM

And not just that they were there, but that they actually interviewed people. It's highly suspicious for a news organization to do such a thing. :rolleyes:
or that there were people around willing to be interviewed, i mean really, who wants to be on TV these days?

Horatius

24th July 2009, 04:51 PM

link (http://www.christianforums.com/t7386013/#post52398534)
If I were to be illegally detained at an airport due to my faith and opposition to a political aim, I can hardly think of a more senic one.
I wonder where they'll send the non-xians...

What I don't get about the whole "Denver Airport" thing is, if they think we're going to round up all the Christians and put them in camps....why would we send them by air? Cattle cars on trains not good enough anymore?

"Oh, we're going to put you all into Happy Camps now, but first, please enjoy this in-flight movie..."The Omen"..."

Comic time.....

Grizzly Bear

24th July 2009, 05:08 PM

Kind of plane-nose-shaped ypu mean no doubt. lol

What is mere massive steel against such such strength.

http://nomoregames.net/presentations/Madison_No_Planes_Final_August_07.ppt_files/slide0045_image034 Nose Cone

bill smith, launching from reality at the speed of light!

Horatius

24th July 2009, 05:12 PM

bill smith again...

PS. What Judy Wood incursion re you talking about ?. I only talked about the giant hurricane bigger than Katrina that was off the coast of New York on 9/11...

Yes, of course....everyone else was also talking about the giant hurricane....

Horatius

24th July 2009, 06:05 PM

I think RM talked about 'high-pressure water cutting steel' as some kind of example. I didn't pay too much attention after that.

RM == Ryan Mackey. Damn him for bringing up those boring "facts" 'n ****.

Cl1mh4224rd

24th July 2009, 07:46 PM

Because everybody knows that water can't cut steel. Feh! :rolleyes:

Elizabeth I

24th July 2009, 07:57 PM

Now call me crazy, I believe it is good to question everything. But suppose when the second strain comes, that strain may be harmful to the people and the masses that take the vaccine will be immunized from the flu. Now the people who have learned about what the vaccine could contain, won't take the shot and that could be used to cull alternative media followers such as you and I who have been warned not to take the vaccine if the second strain is in fact deadly or more harmful. This could at the same time be used to discredit alternative media by saying something like "See they thought they wouldn't get swine flu and look what happened".

Huh?

Mel Odious

25th July 2009, 01:38 AM

Huh?

Lots of conspiracy freaks think the swine flu vaccine will actually be an attempt to cull the population. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74038)

Or to implant a microchip in everyone. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74504)

Or (fill in the blank with your own loony idea).

My nominee is saying - at least I think - that if some of the anti-vaccine nuts die from the swine flu because they refused the vaccine due to their own paranoid delusions, that will play right into the NWO's hands.

Or something like that.

Actually, I think "Huh?" sums it up better! :D

EvilBiker

26th July 2009, 01:51 AM

Here's a nice one from Enver at the Pfft website (http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=16215):

Assuming that the government account is true, for the sake of argument only, wouldn't the Boeing 757 have veered right when the right wing struck the face of the Pentagon?

The right wing would strike before the left wing, and cause the plane to swing to the right. This fact alone makes the official explanation not credible.

dudalb

27th July 2009, 11:35 AM

The Jews Are The Evil Force Behind Everything!
9/11 Investigator lets it all hang out, finally:

It's the other way around. European Civilization (either in Europe or America) has always been the beacon of the world. European Civilization is the Godliest there has ever been on this planet. All other civilizations crumble in comparison. And here comes a bunch of Ukrainian Khazars calling themselves Jews since 800 AD or so and want to subjugate us and destroy us in order to replace us with the hordes of the third world in order to divide society so you can function as middlemen and hold all the power. You want to kill the aristocrats like you did in Russia ('Kill the best Gentiles'/'Tob Shebbe Goyim Harog!'). You represent the ugliest, cruellest, most tyrannical and loveless creatures to walk the surface of this planet. That's why you killed The Best Gentile JFK: he wanted to take the FED from you. He wanted to prevent Israel acquiring nuclear weapons. And most of all you wanted to get this Texan Jew Lyndon Baines Johnson in power without the hassle of getting him elected first. The first thing he did was signing the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 that laid the basis of the destruction of European Society on American soil which is now irreversible thereby finishing almost a century of preparation to achieve this goal.

Here is the URL http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=148049&page=17

If he keeps going on this rate, our little investigator will win a Stundie by acclamation.

Cl1mh4224rd

27th July 2009, 04:57 PM

The Jews Are The Evil Force Behind Everything!
9/11 Investigator lets it all hang out, finally:

Here is the URL http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=148049&page=17

If he keeps going on this rate, our little investigator will win a Stundie by acclamation.

Sooo... The Jews have been trying to subjugate the world for twelve centuries, but have only begun making anything that resembles progress... within the last century?

And we should be... afraid? Or just hateful?

dudalb

27th July 2009, 05:02 PM

It's the other way around. European Civilization (either in Europe or America) has always been the beacon of the world. European Civilization is the Godliest there has ever been on this planet. All other civilizations crumble in comparison.

The Chinese might have problems with that.

Damien Evans

27th July 2009, 09:00 PM

And Cain, our self proclaimed contrarian, destroys whatever credibility he has left:

:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp

I wouldn't take anything he says seriously, he's just a particularly annoying troll.

Damien Evans

27th July 2009, 09:03 PM

The Chinese might have problems with that.

And the Japanese, and ....

Well, everyone else, really.

D'rok

27th July 2009, 10:41 PM

A challenger appears...

Resident FOTLer (Freeman on the Land) Bluekush623 gets frustrated with hearing it like it is:

you guys are so caught up in the way the world is, you distant yourselves from truth and reality.

Dave Rogers

28th July 2009, 04:15 AM

Oh, wow. That's just beautiful.

Dave

Myron Proudfoot

28th July 2009, 08:17 AM

I think the following was meant seriously. If so, I think it's a contender...

THIS IS A FAKE STORY. Please realize the FOLLOWING FACTS: 1. Obama BARRY SOETERO was born in A MUD HUT IN KENYA to TWO BLACK PARENTS; his mother was ADOPTIVE; he is actually 100% black AND ARAB; 2. The State of hawaii, the US Government, Department of Homeland Security are all players in a massive conspiracy to hide the fact that BARRY SOETERO WAS NOT AND HAS NEVER BEEN AN AMERICA CITIZEN! With the money he ilegitimately received from his land deals, he has paid off over 60 government officials to destroy his Kenya Birth Certificate, and some of those officials have since Dead!; 3. There are multiple lawsuits in the highest iof surpeme courts to challenge his citizneship because he was born in KENYA and later moved to IRAQ; the bird certificate is FAKE and this story has bee pushed by the lib MEDIA!!

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/07/28/20090728obamahawaii28-ON.html#comments

dudalb

28th July 2009, 11:16 AM

you guys are so caught up in the way the world is, you distant yourselves from truth and reality.

That is worthy of Homer Simpson.

Elizabeth I

28th July 2009, 11:59 AM

NWO Sentryman

28th July 2009, 04:00 PM

from you-know-where, with my comments in double-quotes...

Lazar was a scumbag, but that does not mean every jew is an evil conspiratorial demon. Honestly, i do not see how the actions of a few jewish people amount to them being the fount of all evil.

They were the top people who organized huge mass murders. And you want to downplay that to 'a few Jews'?

I think you will scream unfair if i said every European thought like Heydrich, Himmler, Goring and Hitler.

That's interesting! All over sudden Kaganovich and Trozky are in the same league as Himmler and Hitler. Well the Hollywood Himmler/Hitler that is.

jaydeehess

28th July 2009, 04:17 PM

wait, the 2 tallest buildings in the city were hit by planes and been on fire for nearly an hour, and hes SURPRISED Fox "just happened" to be on scene when they collapsed?

Not quite.
He is SURPRISED not only that Fox was there to interview the eyewitnesses, he is also SURPRISED that there were eyewitnesses.
:eek::jaw-dropp

jaydeehess

28th July 2009, 04:20 PM

bill smith again...

Yes, of course....everyone else was also talking about the giant hurricane....

I am SURPRISED that Fox was not on hand at the hurricane to interview eyewitnesses to it.:D

Cl1mh4224rd

28th July 2009, 05:10 PM

defaultdotxbe

28th July 2009, 06:43 PM

Wait... this just struck me. I understand the "not American-born", umm... "concern"... but how many of these freaks are actually trying to claim Obama is a wholly illegal immigrant (as in, never went through the naturalization process)?
this guy is saying his mother isnt even his mother, and hes ARAB (look, he even puts in all caps)

bet he claims hes not racist too

jaydeehess

29th July 2009, 05:49 AM

Where can I get a bird certificate?

carlitos

29th July 2009, 08:21 AM

Where can I get a bird certificate?
They issue it when loons apply to the highest iof surpeme courts to challenge your citizneship.

Dave Rogers

29th July 2009, 09:58 AM

This is a long one, but it's about time SteveAustin's sterling work got the recognition it deserves. Those with math skills too good to be allowed membership in the 9/11 truth movement may divine the significance of the bold type.

In the last 40 years America and the CIA have carried out over 3, 0000 operations and over 10, 000 minor operations. Resulting in a MINIMUN of six million people killed, mostly from the third world.

1, China 1945 – 1960s
2, Italy 1947 – 1948
3, Greece 1947 – 1950
4, The Philippines 1940s & 1950s
5, Korea 1945 – 1953
6, Albania 1949 -1953
7, Eastern Europe 1948 -1956
8, Germany 1940s
9, Iran 1953
10, Guatemala 1953 – 1954
11, Costa Rica Mid 1950s
12, Syria 1956 – 1957
13, Indonesia 1957 -1958
14, Western Europe 1950s & 1960s
15, British Guyana 1963 – 1954 [Dude, wait... what? Time travel?]
16, Soviet Union 1950s & 1960s
17, Italy 1950 – 1970s
18, Vietnam 1950 – 1973
19, Cambodia 1955 – 1973
20, Laos 1957 – 1973
21, Haiti 1959 – 1963
22, Guatemala 1960
23, France/Algeria 1960s
24, Ecuador 1960-1963
25, The Congo 1960 – 1964
26, Brazil 1961 – 1964
27, Peru 1960 – 1965
28, Dominion Republic 1960 – 1966
29, Cuba 1959 – 1980s
30, Indonesia 1965
31, Ghana 1966
32, Uruguay 1964 – 1970
33, Chile 1964 – 1973
34, Greece 1964 – 1974
35, Bolivia 1964 – 1975
36, Guatemala 1962 - 1980
37, Costa Rica 1970 -1971
38, Iraq 1972 – 1975
39, Australia 1973 – 1975
40, Angola 1975 – 1980s
41, Zaire 1975 – 1978
42, Jamaica 1976 – 1980
43, Seychelles 1979 – 1981
44, Grenada 1979 – 1984
45, Morocco 1983
46, Suriname 1982 – 1984
47, Libya 1981 – 1989
48, Nicaragua 1981 -1990
49, Panama 1969 – 1991
50, Bulgaria 1990
51, Iraq 1990 – 1991
52, Afghanistan 1979 – 1992
53, El Salvador 1980 – 1994
54, Haiti 1986 – 1994
54, Yugoslavia 1999
55, Afghanistan 2002 and still there for the opium
56, Iraq 2003 and still there for the oil

All I can say is, it's been a looooooong 40 years.

Dave

NWO Sentryman

29th July 2009, 10:09 AM

This is a long one, but it's about time SteveAustin's sterling work got the recognition it deserves. Those with math skills too good to be allowed membership in the 9/11 truth movement may divine the significance of the bold type.

All I can say is, it's been a looooooong 40 years.

Dave

I think he was copying from John Stockwell, the highest ranking cia case officer to go public. Over Angola AFAIK.

Dave Rogers

29th July 2009, 10:44 AM

I think he was copying from John Stockwell, the highest ranking cia case officer to go public. Over Angola AFAIK.

The point is in the dates; look where "the last 40 years" appears to start.

Dave

Horatius

29th July 2009, 10:44 AM

This is a long one, but it's about time SteveAustin's sterling work got the recognition it deserves. Those with math skills too good to be allowed membership in the 9/11 truth movement may divine the significance of the bold type.

All I can say is, it's been a looooooong 40 years.

Dave

To be fair, every now and then I forget we're most of the way to 2010 already.

Of course, I don't go advertising my memory lapses all over the Internet.

Well, okay, not usually! ;)

NWO Sentryman

29th July 2009, 10:54 AM

The point is in the dates; look where "the last 40 years" appears to start.

Dave

well, i think i meant to say he copied stockwell and forgot to change dates.

Dave Rogers

29th July 2009, 11:01 AM

well, i think i meant to say he copied stockwell and forgot to change dates.

It wouldn't surprise me. Plagiarism and lack of attention to detail are signature moves in the truth movement.

Dave

NWO Sentryman

29th July 2009, 11:05 AM

It wouldn't surprise me. Plagiarism and lack of attention to detail are signature moves in the truth movement.

Dave

i Wonder what Stockwell would make of the truth movement today (very active during Iran Contra, went off the radar after 1991 when the Soviet Union collapsed)

jaydeehess

29th July 2009, 11:10 AM

This is a long one, but it's about time SteveAustin's sterling work got the recognition it deserves. Those with math skills too good to be allowed membership in the 9/11 truth movement may divine the significance of the bold type.

All I can say is, it's been a looooooong 40 years.

Dave

<<sighs>> is it not obvious that he was refering to Martian years?

ETA: my bad, 40 Martian years is the equivalent of more like 75 Earth years

NWO Sentryman

29th July 2009, 12:01 PM

originally posted by skeptic view post
of course we jews control the world, 9/11 investigator! Sure, we do it in a way you inferior whites consider immoral. But as your own hero, hitler, said, morality is just for the weak. The strong, superior people -- like us jews -- don't let those inferior concerns stop them from doing what's necessary to protect their power.

I mean, just like you don't give a damn about the whining of the inferior ape-like blacks about "racism" when you control them -- that's just their whining at their own inferiority -- i don't give a damn about your whining about "jewish deceit". That's just your frustration for being born to the inferior white race instead of to the superior jewish one.

Here is the response to the above...

wow, after 19 pages in this thread i finally convinced (or forced to admit the truth by) somebody. Now it is skeptic and me against the rest of the j-power deniers. I am making progress.

obviously someone doesn't get sarcasm...

rwguinn

29th July 2009, 03:56 PM

Holy Bats!
6 million...Germany...1940's...
The CIA was responsible for the Jewish Purge!
The truth is KNOWN!

dudalb

29th July 2009, 05:03 PM

"Sceptic" in the above post is Jewish, btw.
9/11 Investigator sure wants that Stundie bad.....

fitzgibbon

29th July 2009, 08:02 PM

ihaunter

29th July 2009, 08:39 PM

For your consideration. From Above Top Secret (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread486257/pg3#pid6814047)

"Damage from two Aluminum aircraft at very limited capacity would have barely poked a hole in the screen steel mesh that made up the outside of the Twin Towers, not to mention the giant steel cores."

Thus spake HothSnake

Ever notice when they talk about the towers, its the weak aluminum aircraft, while when they talk about the Pentagon, its the indestructible titanium engines?

Mel Odious

29th July 2009, 09:34 PM

From a thread at the DI Forums entitled: When has Queen Elizabeth got ill or sick? (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75269)

Here's the stundie nomination: (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1156264&postcount=6)

She has had a few, listed as bad colds, bandage on her hand, burst blood vessel in her eye, bad back. nothing major. This was the last few years.

Was it because shes too old too shapeshift and this then caused some of those problems you mentioned.

I'm not joking either.

Hokulele

30th July 2009, 01:53 AM

From the thread about the rather horrid idea for creating a virtual reality WTC so those who suffered through the original events get to live through the tragedy again:

The truth will be filtered out by this technology.

I suppose you should give magi5 kudos for accuracy...

Grizzly Bear

30th July 2009, 11:38 AM

Can I nominate this even though it's a month old? =(

U4IKST8 (1 month ago) Show Hide
The towers were NOT hollow, they would have a similar structure to a rubix cude. A basket ball would be hollow, no structure inside.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8JG7vMQYqA

carlitos

30th July 2009, 12:04 PM

Comment 3296 from the "BBC Blog (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2008/10/caught_up_in_a_conspiracy_theo.html?page=7#comment s)" on conspiracies. This person is correcting a typo that appeared after the 12 question marks, and before the 9 periods in between the quotes inside the parentheses.

3296. At 07:36am on 17 Jul 2009, malleestump wrote:
So sorry to be a bit of a pest, but a couple of things:

In 3295 at one point it should read after:???????????? ( 'I take it that no one did.........') I will not worry about the other typos.

IMST

30th July 2009, 01:27 PM

The moon landings were a hoax. And, reading this, apparently the Americans weren't in on it:
It was a beautiful hoax.
Very impressive even today.
Polls say 75% of Americans still think we went to the moon.
Although it was criminal, you can’t help respecting the Zionists that orchestrated it.
They needed money for the Israeli nuclear program. 100 nukes are expensive.
Submarines, ships, tanks, state-of-the-art fighter jets, cruise missiles are expensive.
Israel can’t afford them with only 7.4million people and a paltry $200Billion GDP.
$3Billion in annual foreign aid doesn’t come close to what they need.
They’ve got very generous social welfare programs that need to be funded also.
They had to steal.
From the United States.
They do it by siphoning $trillions allocated for the United States space program in exchange for well-crafted convincing fake photos, video and narrative that only cost $millions.
Israel has a hostile Eastern flank that needs defending but they can’t afford it so they manipulate Americans with false-flag terrorist attacks to get American slaves to send their sons and daughters to their early deaths in illegal, preemptive, bankrupting quagmire wars for Israel.
ISS, Hubble, and Mars missions are hoaxes also.
The money gets sent to Israel.
Americans are slaves.
link (http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2009/07/the-moon-landings-fact-not-fiction/) Quote's in the comments. Locate it by the time stamp above.

sylvan8798

30th July 2009, 04:10 PM

Can I nominate this even though it's a month old? =(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8JG7vMQYqA

Another entry from the same poster later in the comments:

I'll admit I have no clue and have never heard of an elastic or inelastic collision.

Why people who admit having no clue should quit while they are ahead:

No external forces were involved once the top section of the tower began to move, correct? So saying gravity was the external force is wrong. The body in motion is only moving because of gravity, it should stop, or be slowed down, when it hits the remaining section of the tower.

jaydeehess

30th July 2009, 05:05 PM

Post 210 and 214 contain stundies that
ONCE AGain BlaSt mY guYs ouT of the WaTer!!1!!!11

Dubbi

30th July 2009, 07:30 PM

"BREAKING NEWS!! Richard Gage from AE911Truth has been detained
Richard Gage is being detained at the National Institute for Standards and Technology, in Gaithersburg, MD. Mr. Gage went to deliver a letter to, Shyam Sunder which proves thermite was in the WTO buildings, they were detained and are currently inside, film was confiscated. We Are Change Virginia's Ben Schnitger is on the scene." - "mynameis"

source: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73747

Fortunately, the northern rabbit hole dwellers are trying to calm their southbound brethren on the issue: http://www.911blogger.com/node/20690 and eventually "mynameis" realizes that it's a silly rumor.

IMST

30th July 2009, 11:10 PM

I may not have a winner this month, but I think I've set a personal best for worthy nominations.
I saw a close-up of the “supposed” birth certificate from the Hawaii Dept. of Health. Check it out for yourself….The Certificate Number is: 151 1961 010641

Now pay attention here.

151 + 1961 + 010641 = 12753

Now add up the individual digits….
1 + 2 + 7 + 5 + 3 = 18

You know what that means?

18 = 6 + 6 + 6

Do I have to spell it out for you? 666 people!!!!! THE MARK OF THE BEAST!

Lord Jesus, COME QUICKLY!
Can't get enough numerology. link (http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2009/07/21/this-birther-nonsense-becoming-a-big-problem-for-the-gop/comment-page-3/#comments). Last comment on the page.

Longfellow

30th July 2009, 11:54 PM

I saw a close-up of the “supposed” birth certificate from the Hawaii Dept. of Health. Check it out for yourself….The Certificate Number is: 151 1961 010641

Now pay attention here.

151 + 1961 + 010641 = 12753

Now add up the individual digits….
1 + 2 + 7 + 5 + 3 = 18

You know what that means?

18 = 6 + 6 + 6

Do I have to spell it out for you? 666 people!!!!! THE MARK OF THE BEAST!

Lord Jesus, COME QUICKLY!

In My Spare Time, I think that's a winner. Thank you very much for the side-splitter.

Am I the only one who starts laughing uncontrollably when some whack-job starts crunching numbers in an effort to prove -- well, whatever it is they're trying to prove?

Surely not.

Just now my wife hollered at me from the other room wondering what the **** was so funny. I didn't even bother trying to explain.

Thanks again.

defaultdotxbe

31st July 2009, 12:28 AM

Am I the only one who starts laughing uncontrollably when some whack-job starts crunching numbers in an effort to prove -- well, whatever it is they're trying to prove?
not by a long shot

this one is particularly good as it shows how they apply inconsistent methods to get whatever result they want

NWO Sentryman

31st July 2009, 04:36 AM

This is what the worlds most renowned historian on WW2 (until he started the doubt the official views on the holocaust), David Irving has to say in addition:

I am beginning to think 9/11 investigator should be disqualified from the stundies.

jaydeehess

31st July 2009, 11:26 AM

I need to sneak one in at the last moment here;
I posted on the Blackvault;
Once again the thread topic is 9/11 and once again those who purport to be so very interested in the 'truth' about 9/11 change the topic to something of a political nature.

You guys just make my point for me. You want 9/11 to be a corrupt gov't operation because it then fits your pre-conceived notion that it is a corrupt gov't.

_________________
The response from poster Code Black;

CodeBlack Post subject: Re: 9-11Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:50 pm

.......... I do notice the prevalence of debunkers here. THAT is unmistakable.

Every stinking time I identify the GOV doing something bad the debunkers here on the NEO-BV immediately chime in with dirty corporation stuff. Oy! If you people who seem to have sold your soul to big government really believe in it then you are Eloi. The closest I ever came to being a slave was working for the government. And no amount of b.s. here is going to change that. I believe government is evil. All governments are evil, because they are driven by the quest for power. Far more corrupting than money.

People want money so they can go sit on a beach with an umbrella drink. People want power to control other people's lives. Which is more evil?

http://community.theblackvault.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=25&start=460

Longfellow

31st July 2009, 12:48 PM

not by a long shot

this one is particularly good as it shows how they apply inconsistent methods to get whatever result they want

Yes, I think that's exactly it.

I picture them sitting there, their tongues clinched firmly in their front teeth, fiendishly scribbling numbers and erasing them and scribbling and erasing and scribbling until they get just the right combination. Or even better: Forrest Gump style; mouths moving silently with each addition and subtraction until they get just the right permutation.

jaydeehess

31st July 2009, 03:08 PM

In My Spare Time, I think that's a winner. Thank you very much for the side-splitter.

Am I the only one who starts laughing uncontrollably when some whack-job starts crunching numbers in an effort to prove -- well, whatever it is they're trying to prove?

Surely not.

Just now my wife hollered at me from the other room wondering what the **** was so funny. I didn't even bother trying to explain.

Thanks again.

It ranks up there with those who disect song lyrics to 'prove' that the author knew something was going to occur.

My ex-wife 'knew' that a Leonard Cohen song was about an affair that I had had ( I never had an affair) and that somehow L.C. knew about. (now you understand a little about why she is my ex)
,, and I keep getting a whack job showing me rock song lyrics indicating that the author knew about 911, in the 1970's.