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knife fight colobus
1st July 2009, 02:54 PM
I'm putting together a massive collection of skeptical debates so I've been searching for 911 CT debates among other skeptical topics.
Anyways, I've run across a few debates which featured this 911 CT debunker named John Brown. He's usually introduced as being a former special forces guy and he has a BA in Political Science.
So far I've come across three different radio debates where he was representing the rational side. All IIRC involve Kevin Barrett and one debate I listened to had him go up against David Ray Griffin, Kevin Barrett, Steven Jones, Richard Gage AND Tony Szamboti.
This guy does IMHO does a great job in all the debates and I know nothing about him at all. His stuff is from a couple years back but the thing with 911 CT is that they are the exact same incorrect claims that are argued today.
I'll post links to the debates in a short while, I need to do some stuff that will take up some time.
T.A.M.
1st July 2009, 06:24 PM
Don't recall hearing about him. Check out the "Hardfire" debates, for some excellent shows. Mark Roberts (Gravy on this forum) tears them a new one in superb debunker fashion.
TAM:)
~enigma~
1st July 2009, 06:29 PM
Don't recall hearing about him. Check out the "Hardfire" debates, for some excellent shows. Mark Roberts (Gravy on this forum) tears them a new one in superb debunker fashion.
TAM:)
If he tore em a new one why are they full of feces?
T.A.M.
1st July 2009, 06:31 PM
If he tore em a new one why are they full of feces?
You know what they say...
"You can take a man out of the dungpile, but you can't take the ...."
TAM:)
Brainster
1st July 2009, 06:44 PM
I covered John Brown's debate (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2009/01/good-work-by-john-brown.html) with Christie Czajkowski back in January. Christie's a real piece of work, but John does a good job. Note that there's a link there to the rest of the debate; I only put up one segment.
BTW, kfc, haven't forgotten about getting those MP3s to you.
knife fight colobus
1st July 2009, 08:01 PM
Don't recall hearing about him. Check out the "Hardfire" debates, for some excellent shows. Mark Roberts (Gravy on this forum) tears them a new one in superb debunker fashion.
TAM:)
Oh yes, I love the Richard Gage one the most, especially when Gravy used the quote from Steven Jones which stated that it was incorrect to claim that the buildings were turned into super double almost invisible powder-dust.
Once I finally have time I'm gonna post links to the call-in Hardfire ep Gravy and pomeroo did a while back, the Ron Craig v Richard Gage debate, the Infidel Guy 911 debate and scores of others.
I covered John Brown's debate (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2009/01/good-work-by-john-brown.html) with Christie Czajkowski back in January. Christie's a real piece of work, but John does a good job. Note that there's a link there to the rest of the debate; I only put up one segment.
BTW, kfc, haven't forgotten about getting those MP3s to you.
Thanks for the link, I'll check it out. Yeah John is pretty good, especially cause it seems like everyone is against him whenever he debates. I like how five of the leading Truthers will jump at the opportunity to debate one guy in their own ballpark but they won't debate Gravy (except Gage, gotta give him credit for taking up the challenge).
I love this statement about Christie, "apparently she got kicked out of the Minutemen organization because she was too extreme even for them" It reminds of a Simpsons episode where gymnasts tell Lisa that their gymnastics coach is so hardcore that he defected IN to Eastern Germany.
I'm looking forward to the mp3s Brainster!
parky76
1st July 2009, 08:24 PM
I'm putting together a massive collection of skeptical debates so I've been searching for 911 CT debates among other skeptical topics.
Anyways, I've run across a few debates which featured this 911 CT debunker named John Brown. He's usually introduced as being a former special forces guy and he has a BA in Political Science.
So far I've come across three different radio debates where he was representing the rational side.
don't you mean the winning side?
;)
knife fight colobus
1st July 2009, 08:25 PM
OK, here is the debate between John Brown vs. all of the TM,
http://www.radiodujour.com/mp3/20080508_richardgreene_scholarsdebate.mp3
I got this from SLC:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/05/steven-jones-suggests-magic-paint-took.html
Here is the link to both of the John Brown v Kevin Barrett debates:
http://911underground.com/2007-08-18_Kevin_Barrett_Debates_9-11_Debunker_John_Brown.MP3
http://911underground.com/2007-08-24_Kevin_Barrett_Debate_with_John_Brown_Round_Two. MP3
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