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Travis
3rd July 2009, 01:41 AM
In a Stundie awards first (at least on my watch) we had a tie for the best of the worst from May.


The FDR is added to track systems it is not a part of the plane.
Where might one find an FDR?
It is in the tail of the plane.
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If you go up in a helicopter in New York and hover for 4 hours and then come back down to earth you should be in Los Angeles, not New York ( if the Earth were really moving ).
Gravity does not account for the copter still being in New York, it would only account for the copter not falling out of the sky back to Earth.

If Copernicanism can be proven wrong, that the universe is geocentric or geostatic and not heliocentric then
Darwinism will fall, then Marxism will fall and then Freudism will fall. All Satans lies will fall like dominoes one afer the other.

Were both deemed so awesome they both won.

So double congrats.

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Teh 28th Annual Stundie Awards Finals of June 2009

1) Remember THAT randomly capitalizing CERTAIN words in your WRITING totally gives YOU so MUCH MORE credibility. After all who needs sound arguments when you got that awesome Caps Lock key?
I believe they CONCENTRATED MAGNETS onto the site of the WORLD TRADE CENTERS... to BRING THEM DOWN, INSTANTLY.. by PUSHING some BUTTON to some SATELLITE MACHINE Hoovering over the Towers in Space or maybe something here on the ground.. POINTED at the TOWERS to 'GET THE CURRENT RUNNING' ...all while smiling wickedly, watching it LIVE on closed circuit DISPLAYS SCREENS.
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2) This would be curious only if aircraft engines came with that "self excavating" option Pratt & Whitney is always pushing.
So you think Flight 93 buried itself into the ground, except for some smaller pieces, yet the closest thing we have to a picture showing any of this buried plane being excavated, is part of an engine rotor curiously poised by the backhoe bucket.
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3) Well, I guess we should start figuring out what clade Mothman should be classified in.
There is at least one witness to the Pentagon flyover. If you have an eyewitness, it is no longer a theory.
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4) I guess someone was trying to get their work featured as an example of a non sequitur.
Obama's mom had a passport. Her husband was from Kenya. So Obama's mom was in Kenya when Barry was born.
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5) I somehow doubt this will work.
NEVER say you understand when talking to a judge, cop, or any other sleazy gov agent. in legalese you would be admitting you stand under their authority or their charges and you give your freedom away. you don't understand. you don't grasp, seize, comprehend, nor fathom. you're just plain stoopid hehe
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6) To defeat them we will have to do nothing! Awesome, I'm off to an AM/PM for a Red Bull and Doritos to help with the fight.
This is the formula of the New World Order: lure the people into attacking The New World Order (chaos), and use that chaos to engineer a greater and greater power for the New World Order: order out of chaos, or, what I will call in this article, order out of attacking the New World Order.
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7) Debunking Moon Hoaxes is nice but it would help to....oh, I don't know....consult a science book or wikipedia beforehand.
They went there to take pictures of the moon. The cameras weren't designed to take pictures of stars.

Cameras are designed to record light bouncing off objects. Thats what stars do, reflect light.
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8) Piles of debris and subways are now airtight and PATH didn't exist....who knew?
How did the oxygen get under thousands of tons of debris?
Where do the subway tunnels lead under the building? Were there holes in the roof of the subway tunnel to allow oxygen to the fire
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9) Who says that stupid ideas need to be consistent?
The odds of both collapsing in the same manner in approx the exact amount of time is an absolute impossibility despite the fact that they were indeed " TWINS "
Why did Tower 2 collapse before Tower 1 did? Was the fire hotter in Two despite the fuel being exactly the same?
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10) That the powers didn't just get GWB to appoint Barrack as his VP then mysteriously die of a heart attack can only prove the NWO fetish for over-complication and redundancy.
The whole plan was to get 8 years of bitching and whining about conservatives so they could put a left wing kook in the White House. THEY don't want the US to be a superpower any more and they know that what made the US a superpower in the first place was Capitalism and American Conservative Values. So to eliminate the US as a superpower they had to eliminate conservatives. And 8 years of non-stop bashing, lying, made up gunk, garbage about Bush, getting pissed at every tiny thing, like no-bid contracts in Iraq chasing Halliburton out of the country, and Blackwater, and ***** GITMO! (who gives a CRAP?!) accomplished the task. It got Republicans out and the ANOINTED ONE in, didn't it! Now look at the country. Its F-ed for the next century. The rest of your natural life.
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11) Where there is no air there is no equal and opposite reactions. Take that Newton!
Man never set foot on the moon. If a Cessna 172 were in space would a spinning propeller have any effect on forward movement, or would the plane not move because of no air molecules?

A rocket may propel on earth, because it pushes against the earth or the air, in outer space, there is no air to push against, rockets are not effective in deep space.
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12) The only thing preventing a horrible dictatorship is term limits. So where were the FDR death camps?
Read and take action. This is a well thought out conspiracy.
Earlier this year, Rep. Jose Serrano, D-N.Y. Introduced H. J. Res. 5, a bill that would repeal The Constitution’s 22nd Amendment which prohibits a president from being elected to more than two terms in office, thus potentially paving the way to make Barack Obama president for life. Not Surprisingly, the corporate media currently caught up in Obama-mania has not covered this story. Will George W. Bush end up being the last true U.S. President?”
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13) Since when are "observations" (even wrong ones) "definitions?" Did the thesaurus auto-replace screw up?
I REPEAT: by DEFINITION: only controlled demolitions look like controlled demolitions. WTC 7 looked like a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION becuase it WAS a controlled demolition.
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14) Short answer: no. Long answer: nope.
Haven't you noticed that governments set up agencies that operate in secret, sometimes with "black" budgets and that sometimes these agencies become autonomous, developing their own independent sources of funding, unaccountable to anyone but themselves?
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15) Strangely I can find no classes for "American Words." Maybe it's hidden in the same place they teach "Iran words."
How is it that the Iran protesters have American Written Words on their signs? I know the CIA is behind this protest. When we protest in America we Americans do not write in Iran words on our protest signs. Something looks fishy Jon....quit watching the ball that the CIA is bouncing Jon. Remember Bush stole the election too. So if an election can be stolen in American then an election can be stolen in Iran. It is not news to the thinkers in the World of Thought. Why do we care who wins the election in Iran when America is borrowing money from China; And America is a economically broke?
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16) So Brazil = Queen Elizabeth sycophants? Murderous sycophants?
I put Brazil in bold because I want to show that that is where Air France 447 originated from, and was blown up because Sarkozy angered the Queen by not inviting her to the 65th anniversary of D-Day. Notice Prince Charles ended up going.
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17) So first we get this:
2 people killed on 2 colliding trains symbolizes 22 and there are 22 connecting pathways of the kabbilistic tree of life. Also just by coincidence it happened on the 22nd day of the month, they love their rituals and the way it bombards the subconsciousness of the unaware.
But then it is announced that four people are dead.
Oh it was 4, well i saw it say 2 confirmed dead on the news when i got back tonight, guess i spoke too soon. Still i believe this was some kind of set up due to the date.
So.....4 dead on 2 colliding trains still symbolizes 22?
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18) Usually a thesis statement is followed by a body of work that will support it. Apparently others disagree.
If the sun’s light could reach "so-called" Mars as the photos from NASA depict, then our night skies would not be dark.

If the Earth was truly spherical then when the earth would spin on its axis away from the sun, the earth's skies would still remain lit-up. Think of it in this matter, when you walk into a room lit-up by a lamp, upon facing the lamp you have the light directly before you, and if you turned your back against the lamp the light would be no longer before you but the surrounding spaces of that room would still be lit-up, same would apply for the space earth is in.

Now many come-back replies will be; “there’s nothing to reflect the sun’s light between earth and Mars to light up our night skies?” But its not the reflection of anything that manages to get the sun’s light to reach us here on Earth in the first place.

Use the room and lamp example again; there could be shiny reflective objects in the room, say a ninja sword, or an over & under shotgun above the fireplace but its not these objects reflections that are illuminating the surrounding space of the room, it’s the lamp (Sun).
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19) It's one thing to conflate Terminal Velocity with Free Fall (gravitational) Acceleration. It's another to do it with such ridiculous arrogance.
Free fall acceleration can only happen in air, there can be no resistence. Deal with that fact and cut the denial double talk. Capish?
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20) So with this established:
Fine,show me just one piece of the many hundreds of pieces of evidence that 911 wasn't an "inside job" that wasn't:

A. provided by the government itself (FBI,CIA,FAA,NORAD,FEMA,NIST etc.)
we transition to this:
“The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”

by: William Colby
(1920-1996) former Director of the CIA
any questions?
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So, that's it for this month folks. There were so many good ones we could have had a whole other poll but.....that would have meant more work.:p

Brainache
3rd July 2009, 02:18 AM
I love the idea that the NWO is luring people to fight them by provoking paranoid loons into inventing them and calling for others to fight them so that they can then have the chaos they so greatly desire. Makes perfect sense to me...

JoeyDonuts
3rd July 2009, 02:24 AM
"Of Sunlight and Ninja Swords" by James Clavell. Soon to be a Lifetime Original Movie starring Judith Light.

Travis
3rd July 2009, 02:41 AM
"Of Sunlight and Ninja Swords" by James Clavell. Soon to be a Lifetime Original Movie starring Judith Light.

:D

Meredith Baxter was unavailable?

J. Wellington Wimpy
3rd July 2009, 02:59 AM
I predict an exceptionally tight race this month, as none of the nominees this time out are anything BUT wholly and utterly deserving of full Stundie dishonors. :D

If I had to lay money on early prohibitive favorites, however: 7, 13, 14, 19 & 20.

Klimax
3rd July 2009, 03:37 AM
Extremely good mont. But looks like I lost definitlya perspective... (No my nominations :( )

Anyway Terminal Velocity is game and good one... (1995 I think)

Dave Rogers
3rd July 2009, 04:04 AM
That was hard. There have been months when any one of these could have been a runaway winner. We've trying to fight ignorance, but it looks like ignorance is fighting back.

Dave

JoeyDonuts
3rd July 2009, 11:03 AM
Extremely good mont. But looks like I lost definitlya perspective... (No my nominations :( )

Anyway Terminal Velocity is game and good one... (1995 I think)

It's like Descent without all the pesky hallways.

jaydeehess
3rd July 2009, 11:31 AM
Had to vote for 'my guys' 9&10 who IMHO and since I have been dealing with these two guys for quite a while, seem oh so deserving of the award.

I do acknowledge though that this month's crop of woo is a strong feild and that to my mind 1, 16 and 18 are woo of the first order.

the total misunderstanding of scientific and technical matters is well represented in this group. (... and geo-political facts such as Brazil's supposed close ties to the British crown , I am speechless concerning that one)

CDRM
3rd July 2009, 12:08 PM
A lot of nuttiness this month, but I'd have to say 4 and 16 are my favs.:)

Horatius
3rd July 2009, 12:26 PM
I can't believe 11 is beating 7. "Rockets have to push against air" is a very common fallacy, but stars that reflect light? That's one of a kind arrogant stupidity!

HeyLeroy
3rd July 2009, 12:47 PM
Whew, another tight race. The ninja sword was soclose to being a deal-breaker; same with the mental image of a gigantic vacuum-cleaner/satellite "Hoovering" over the Towers... American words... reflective stars...
oh, my-- my head is-- http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/61974a4e523a5324c.gif

Grizzly Bear
3rd July 2009, 03:25 PM
I saw #1 and it was an instant winner

IMST
3rd July 2009, 04:26 PM
Ever since I first saw it, I couldn't get over "so-called" Mars

Klimax
3rd July 2009, 04:34 PM
It's like Descent without all the pesky hallways.

Except tunnels... And that secret level ! :D

Travis
3rd July 2009, 06:50 PM
I can't believe 11 is beating 7. "Rockets have to push against air" is a very common fallacy, but stars that reflect light? That's one of a kind arrogant stupidity!

I voted for 7. I'm not even sure what they are messing up to think that stars reflect light.

Cl1mh4224rd
3rd July 2009, 07:02 PM
#7: Reflective stars is just too awesome. Where does the light that they are reflecting come from?

#15: The idea that the people in the CIA responsible for allegedly engineering the Iranian election protests are also such utter morons that they'd see nothing suspicious about putting English words on Iranian signs is great.

#11: The classic mix of insanity and arrogance. Also, it's my nomination. :p

dudalb
3rd July 2009, 09:44 PM
It's like Descent without all the pesky hallways.



Thank the FSM for DosBox. I am replaying Descent, and had forgotten just how much of a blast that game is.

Travis
3rd July 2009, 10:50 PM
It does sadden me that so many people apparently have their science so wrong. It does explain how they can buy into some of the crazier anti-science ideas though.

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3rd July 2009, 11:52 PM
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So, that's it for this month folks. There were so many good ones we could have had a whole other poll but.....that would have meant more work.:p

Travis - I don't wish to be labeled a 'modette' - but - you know you're supposed to mask the profane exclaimations of your incredulity with five asterisks, right? :p

Travis
4th July 2009, 12:20 AM
:eye-poppi ***** I'm so *****!:D

ArmillarySphere
4th July 2009, 12:34 AM
I seem to remember the first line of #7 was what the nominee is responding to, so quote tags would be appropriate. Depends on how careful the nominee was with its own quote tags, though.

Voted for #18 - not only amazingly broken physics, but ninja swords and shotguns? WTF?

Minadin
4th July 2009, 01:36 AM
Some of the space-based entries this month have a lunar chiropteran flavor reminiscent of Malcolm Kirkman's idea that gravity couldn't operate in a vacuum.

I ended up voting for a bunch.

Klimax
4th July 2009, 01:41 AM
Thank the FSM for DosBox. I am replaying Descent, and had forgotten just how much of a blast that game is.

Hehe,no need for Dosbox when 486,P1 133 and P1 188 are available...
(And I have managed to get original copy of Descent II for one and half dollar(30CZK))

Are there any conspiracies about missing datasheets? I should start one...

Travis
4th July 2009, 11:47 AM
I seem to remember the first line of #7 was what the nominee is responding to, so quote tags would be appropriate. Depends on how careful the nominee was with its own quote tags, though.

I wondered about that too because they seemed so incongruous but it was the second line that was funny so I wouldn't sweat it.

Voted for #18 - not only amazingly broken physics, but ninja swords and shotguns? WTF?

Over/under shotgun at that! Makes me wonder what that persons house is stocked with.

Some of the space-based entries this month have a lunar chiropteran flavor reminiscent of Malcolm Kirkman's idea that gravity couldn't operate in a vacuum.

I thought that as well. They also reminded me of Moonman from BAUT.

Standard Dude
4th July 2009, 11:48 AM
Wow, so much ridiculousness, but I just had to go with 17.

NobbyNobbs
6th July 2009, 03:30 AM
I know there is reason for it, but I'm disappointed there aren't links. I'd love to read the discussion that generated some of these.

JihadJane
6th July 2009, 07:07 PM
I know there is reason for it, but I'm disappointed there aren't links. I'd love to read the discussion that generated some of these.

I am also disappointed. What is the reason for it?

Link to entry 14:

"Haven't you noticed that governments set up agencies that operate in secret, sometimes with "black" budgets and that sometimes these agencies become autonomous, developing their own independent sources of funding, unaccountable to anyone but themselves?" (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4819901#post4819901)

Galloping up from behind! VOTE for me NOW!

Foolmewunz
6th July 2009, 09:34 PM
There is too much gold in that one post to not vote for it....

" "So-Called" Mars" !!! Brilliant. I sat on a bench next to this guy in a train station in Taichung, I'm sure. He was on about everything that the USA or China or Taiwan or Hungary (for some reason) was doing, and any time he mentioned any of the them he'd say, "The so-called _________ government", and make the little scare quotes marks in the air with his hands.

But light reflecting off a ninja sword or over-under shotgun? Not a picture? Nor a book-shelf? Not a wall? But reflecting over two specific idiosyncratic weapons! I love this guy!


(Someone PM me the source of this one, please.)

stateofgrace
6th July 2009, 10:02 PM
I am also disappointed. What is the reason for it?

Link to entry 14:

"Haven't you noticed that governments set up agencies that operate in secret, sometimes with "black" budgets and that sometimes these agencies become autonomous, developing their own independent sources of funding, unaccountable to anyone but themselves?" (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=4819901#post4819901)

Galloping up from behind! VOTE for me NOW!

All be it your post is a good effort, please understand you are up against some giants of stupid this month. Please try harder next month.

I voted for one and eleven.

Minadin
6th July 2009, 10:14 PM
3-way tie ATM between 7, 11, and 18, and I don't have a horse in this race, because I voted for all of them.

JoeyDonuts
6th July 2009, 11:01 PM
Galloping up from behind! VOTE for me NOW!

Can't do it, sweetheart.

You were simply outclassed this month. Through and through.

Travis
7th July 2009, 03:16 AM
I am also disappointed. What is the reason for it?


Some months ago it was decided that, in order to make it not appear we are mocking specific posters, the quotes that make into the finals would be anonymous.

There is too much gold in that one post to not vote for it....

" "So-Called" Mars" !!! Brilliant. I sat on a bench next to this guy in a train station in Taichung, I'm sure. He was on about everything that the USA or China or Taiwan or Hungary (for some reason) was doing, and any time he mentioned any of the them he'd say, "The so-called _________ government", and make the little scare quotes marks in the air with his hands.

But light reflecting off a ninja sword or over-under shotgun? Not a picture? Nor a book-shelf? Not a wall? But reflecting over two specific idiosyncratic weapons! I love this guy!


(Someone PM me the source of this one, please.)

Well, if you want to know it's from this thread (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message705297/pg1).

JihadJane
7th July 2009, 03:31 AM
All be it your post is a good effort, please understand you are up against some giants of stupid this month. Please try harder next month.



Thanks, but I prefer effortlessness.

Can't do it, sweetheart.

You were simply outclassed this month. Through and through.

Thanks for your compassion.

Some months ago it was decided that, in order to make it not appear we are mocking specific posters, the quotes that make into the finals would be anonymous.


How devious!

Klimax
7th July 2009, 03:55 AM
3-way tie ATM between 7, 11, and 18, and I don't have a horse in this race, because I voted for all of them.

What next? Next month 4-way?

jaydeehess
7th July 2009, 04:23 PM
My guys are falling behind...............................

How can "it was the plan to lose power" and "the buildings fell suspiciously identically but not identically enough" compete with the likes of "so called Mars"?:mad:

Foolmewunz
8th July 2009, 01:17 AM
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Well, if you want to know it's from this thread (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message705297/pg1).

reported

Thanks, I think. I just read that entire thread! Wow! Just! Wow! Flat-Earthers.

JihadJane
10th July 2009, 11:11 AM
My guys are falling behind...............................

How can "it was the plan to lose power" and "the buildings fell suspiciously identically but not identically enough" compete with the likes of "so called Mars"?:mad:

I can understand that you're pissed but please spare a thought for aggl-rithm and her impossible question.

I am, however, quietly confident that there will be a late surge.

jaydeehess
10th July 2009, 04:50 PM
I can understand that you're pissed but please spare a thought for aggl-rithm and her impossible question.

I am, however, quietly confident that there will be a late surge.

You will have to give me another clue as to what you are referring to JJ. I don't follow all the instances in which you take exception to what others post.

JihadJane
10th July 2009, 05:08 PM
No, I'm not taking exception. Aggl-rithm is my sponsor in the Stundie championships, Entry 14.

IMST
13th July 2009, 03:18 PM
Got a tie at the top with fake planets proven by ninja swords hanging in close. IOW, bump.

JihadJane
14th July 2009, 03:55 AM
Maybe next month ...

:tsmad:

Travis
15th July 2009, 02:31 AM
Reflective stars takes the lead!

timhau
15th July 2009, 07:01 AM
17 makes my brain hurt. In this context, that counts as praise.

Travis
15th July 2009, 08:47 AM
17 makes my brain hurt. In this context, that counts as praise.

Yes, it had that effect on me as well.

Cuddles
15th July 2009, 09:51 AM
I'm with Horatius here. Thinking rockets need to push against air is a very common misconception that really doesn't belong as a Stundie. Reflective stars and ninjas on the other hand, both thoroughly deserve to be in the lead. I'm a little surprised that non-identical identical collapses and quoting the CIA while denouncing the CIA are getting so little love. Self-debunking is a time-honoured classic Stundie method.

Travis
15th July 2009, 09:26 PM
I'm with Horatius here. Thinking rockets need to push against air is a very common misconception that really doesn't belong as a Stundie. Reflective stars and ninjas on the other hand, both thoroughly deserve to be in the lead. I'm a little surprised that non-identical identical collapses and quoting the CIA while denouncing the CIA are getting so little love. Self-debunking is a time-honoured classic Stundie method.

I think in other months they would but we've had such pearls lately that they get lost in the crowd of science misunderstanding.

jaydeehess
16th July 2009, 11:39 AM
No, I'm not taking exception. Aggl-rithm is my sponsor in the Stundie championships, Entry 14.

Ahhh, I see. Well game try there JJ but simple paranioa got overwhelmed by utter complete and utterscience misunderstanding and malapplication this month.

IMST
19th July 2009, 06:49 PM
Got a tie at the top with fake planets proven by ninja swords hanging in close. IOW, bump.

again.

Dog Town
19th July 2009, 08:26 PM
The number 7; a good name, number, and perfect Stundie!

Although, #8 has sentimental value.

JihadJane
20th July 2009, 03:57 AM
Ahhh, I see. Well game try there JJ but simple paranioa got overwhelmed by utter complete and utterscience misunderstanding and malapplication this month.

Thanks for your compassion.

As for the paranoia bit, what do you think the US myriad intelligence agencies and their retirees do with their massive budgets and illicit earnings?

jaydeehess
20th July 2009, 06:27 AM
start another thread JJ

JAStewart
20th July 2009, 05:05 PM
Number 3 made me laugh

Mel Odious
1st August 2009, 12:38 AM
Oh, my goodness, a three-way tie!

Any last-second voters want to decide who gets the Stundie?

Travis
1st August 2009, 12:44 AM
A three way tie was quite unexpected.

LashL
1st August 2009, 03:20 AM
Oh, my goodness, a three-way tie!

Any last-second voters want to decide who gets the Stundie?

I meant to, but I got sidetracked. ;)

Klimax
1st August 2009, 08:23 AM
I meant to, but I got sidetracked. ;)

That's OK... :D

But it shows when high stupidity can be found.