Anti-9/11 'truth' Facebook Group and Blog [Archive]

alienentity

3rd July 2009, 10:14 AM

Hi all,

Found these today:

A facebook group called 'There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons!'
http://www.facebook.com/s.php?ref=search&sid=52cf50d4ecf3ad99929cc075fd3a3110&init=q&q=there%20is%20no%209%2F11%20conspiracy#/group.php?gid=6232459083

and a blog - Conspiraciesrnotus.blogspot.com

http://conspiraciesrnotus.blogspot.com/2009/04/refuting-another-open-source-journal.html

I absolutely love the words of the originator of the group, Marvin Trahant.
'Marvin Trahant (Bainbridge High School) wrote
at 2:25pm on August 1st, 2008
i need you people to join my group because i was in a argument with 911 conspiracy people and i need people for my group to help prove the point that they are retards.'

Hehe. Way to go Marvin!

Cl1mh4224rd

3rd July 2009, 10:57 AM

A facebook group called 'There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons!'
http://www.facebook.com/s.php?ref=search&sid=52cf50d4ecf3ad99929cc075fd3a3110&init=q&q=there%20is%20no%209%2F11%20conspiracy#/group.php?gid=6232459083

Yeah. There have been a couple times where something posted in that group by a truther has been nominated for a Stundie Award. :)

~enigma~

3rd July 2009, 11:13 AM

i need people for my group to help prove the point that they are retards.'

Hehe. Way to go Marvin!
Marvin is his middle name. First name is Starvin...

Quad4_72

3rd July 2009, 11:48 AM

Here are a couple of my favorites:
"If you believe "Loose Change" we consider you mentally retarded"
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=12910616&ref=profile#/group.php?gid=2210366037

Or

"I'd like to hit Dylan "Loose Change" Avery in the face with a spade"
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=12910616&ref=profile#/groups.php?id=12910616

Cl1mh4224rd

3rd July 2009, 01:55 PM

"I'd like to hit Dylan "Loose Change" Avery in the face with a spade"
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=12910616&ref=profile#/groups.php?id=12910616

That link doesn't seem to be working, but this one should: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=2226323358

scissorhands

3rd July 2009, 03:38 PM

Marvin is his middle name. First name is Starvin...

Did Dylan offer you some money to get the heat off his ass, enigma?
Just asking qwestions dude....:)
All you seem to do these days is try to deflect any criticism of him and his cronies, while berating those who have just discovered what a moneymaking piece of filth he actually is.
If you dont like the fact that Dylan and his ilk are regularly shown to be the profiteering scum that they are, then dont bother reading this forum.
Simple, no?

~enigma~

3rd July 2009, 04:00 PM

Did Dylan offer you some money to get the heat off his ass, enigma?
Just asking qwestions dude....:)
All you seem to do these days is try to deflect any criticism of him and his cronies, while berating those who have just discovered what a moneymaking piece of filth he actually is.
If you dont like the fact that Dylan and his ilk are regularly shown to be the profiteering scum that they are, then dont bother reading this forum.
Simple, no?Do you really not get the South Park reference? I mean my three year old would but you couldn't?

scissorhands

3rd July 2009, 04:13 PM

Do you really not get the South Park reference? I mean my three year old would but you couldn't?

Still deflecting?
What is your drive to stop criticism of the 9/11 truth movement on this forum all about, enigma?
Im fascinated.

Bobert

3rd July 2009, 04:18 PM

LOL sorry just caught the SP joke.
Man I love that show!

kameelyun

3rd July 2009, 04:35 PM

Hi all,

Found these today:

A facebook group called 'There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons!'
http://www.facebook.com/s.php?ref=search&sid=52cf50d4ecf3ad99929cc075fd3a3110&init=q&q=there%20is%20no%209%2F11%20conspiracy#/group.php?gid=6232459083

This is my first post in probably over a year, but I do lurk about once every 2-3 weeks. Since you brought up facebook, and that particular group...

...it has a whopping 28 members!

The group 9/11 Truth Movement (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6232459083#/group.php?gid=2204686781&ref=ts) has over 28,000 members!

And of those 28,000+ members, I would imagine probably that no more than a few dozen, perhaps 100 people at max, joined the group to oppose the movement.

The tide can't be stopped!

:cool:

Sword_Of_Truth

3rd July 2009, 04:38 PM

~enigma~

3rd July 2009, 04:39 PM

The tide can't be stopped!

No wonder it doesn't get my clothes clean.

Bobert

3rd July 2009, 04:39 PM

Well yours is biggern then mine so
9-11 was an inside job!!!!!!!!!

kameelyun

3rd July 2009, 04:43 PM

Here is the real "no conspiracy you morons" group. (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2211830485#/group.php?gid=2211830485)

That's the biggest anti-truth group I've found too. 1300 members, versus almost 29,000 for "9/11 Truth Movement." And the TM group grows by about 1,000 every 10 days or so. A few months back, when I joined FB, it was at 23,000.

The tide can't be stopped! :cool:

Bobert

3rd July 2009, 04:46 PM

This is my first post in probably over a year, but I do lurk about once every 2-3 weeks. Since you brought up facebook, and that particular group...

...it has a whopping 28 members!

The group 9/11 Truth Movement (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6232459083#/group.php?gid=2204686781&ref=ts) has over 28,000 members!

And of those 28,000+ members, I would imagine probably that no more than a few dozen, perhaps 100 people at max, joined the group to oppose the movement.

The tide can't be stopped!

:cool:
As usual this group disguises its true meanings with language like,
"* the families' questions that were never answered by the 9/11 commission
* what domestic officials and foreign officials knew before and on September 11th, 2001."
Funny I wonder how many members that group would have if you stated in the summary that the government planted explosives in the towers or there were no planes on 9-11 but holographic images were used.
You see kameelyun you are pushing snake oil and my guess is a large portion of those 28k may not even know what they got into.
Also how many of those 28k actually are true, "truthers".
Nice try but you failed.

Bobert

3rd July 2009, 04:48 PM

That's the biggest anti-truth group I've found too. 1300 members, versus almost 29,000 for "9/11 Truth Movement." And the TM group grows by about 1,000 every 10 days or so. A few months back, when I joined FB, it was at 23,000.

The tide can't be stopped! :cool:
8 years and not a SINGLE SHRED OF PROOF has been brought to a major court and takes seriously.
Judy Woods had the guts to go to court even though LOL SHE GOT HER ASS HANDED TO HER!
LOL your tide is sinking dude your ship has sailed.
Your group is DEAD.

dtugg

3rd July 2009, 05:09 PM

That's the biggest anti-truth group I've found too. 1300 members, versus almost 29,000 for "9/11 Truth Movement." And the TM group grows by about 1,000 every 10 days or so. A few months back, when I joined FB, it was at 23,000.

The tide can't be stopped! :cool:

So how many more facebook members will it take for your pathetic "movement" to get its New InvestigationTM?

Cl1mh4224rd

3rd July 2009, 05:42 PM

The group 9/11 Truth Movement (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6232459083#/group.php?gid=2204686781&ref=ts) has over 28,000 members!

Kudos to them. But what are these 28,000 people accomplishing?

The tide can't be stopped!

Apparently it can't be noticed, either.

NickUK

3rd July 2009, 05:46 PM

kameelyun

3rd July 2009, 05:50 PM

^^^So pop culture groups are larger than groups about geopolitical issues. Big surprise.

Cl1mh4224rd

3rd July 2009, 05:53 PM

^^^So pop culture groups are larger than groups about geopolitical issues. Big surprise.

The alphabet is pop culture? :confused:

Anyway...

Stay in Iraq Until the Job is Done (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2207515106) (61,437 members)
Support For Troops in Iraq (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=13468216595) (378,784 members)
100 Million Facebook members for Democracy in Iran (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=105160039272) (200,189 members)

Hell, even this...

Stop Barack Obama (One Million Strong and Growing) (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2256460769) (240,072 members)

kameelyun

3rd July 2009, 05:58 PM

It's a popular part of American popular culture to sing it to the tune of Twinkle.

As for the Support the Troops groups... so there are more blind nationalists in America than there are critical thinkers.

Big surprise.

It's nice to see you guys squirm after I pointed out how pathetically small the "9/11 'debunker'" groups are. :D

Cl1mh4224rd

3rd July 2009, 06:04 PM

As for the Support the Troops groups... so there are more blind nationalists in America than there are critical thinkers.

Then why is the "Stop Barack Obama" group even larger than the 9/11 Truth Movement group?

It's nice to see you guys squirm after I pointed out how pathetically small the "9/11 'debunker'" groups are.

You give yourself far too much credit. Big surprise. We're quite capable of understanding numbers. Pointing out that the 9/11 Truth Movement isn't really that big, either, is hardly "squirming". It's more like trying to give you a little perspective, which you sorely lack. I didn't see anyone claiming that those "debunker groups" were large movements incapable of being stopped.

ETA: Another anti-Obama group that's larger than the 9/11 Truth Movement: One Million Americans Against Barack Obama in 36 Days (Official Group) (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=82685630231) (78,993 members)

kameelyun

3rd July 2009, 06:10 PM

The largest fb group to do with 9/11 at all (http://www.facebook.com/comparethemeerkat?ref=nf#/group.php?gid=2208411966&ref=ts) is only 40,000 members (Never Forget - Gawd Bleyuss Amurka). The tide is low for 9/11 interest right now, but wait til the 10th anniversary. It will blow away the 5th and the FB 911TM group will burgeon.

Comparisons with non-911-related groups are meaningless.

Cl1mh4224rd

3rd July 2009, 06:15 PM

The tide is low for 9/11 interest right now, but wait til the 10th anniversary. It will blow away the 5th and the FB 911TM group will burgeon.

Do you honestly believe that means anything? That group could have a million members, but what would that accomplish? To repeat dtugg's question:

So how many more facebook members will it take for your pathetic "movement" to get its New InvestigationTM?

Comparisons with non-911-related groups are meaningless.

Facebook groups in general are meaningless. What's your point?

kameelyun

3rd July 2009, 06:17 PM

He proudly started this thread calling out to JREF community announcing a facebook group with 28 members! :D

Cl1mh4224rd

3rd July 2009, 06:20 PM

He proudly started this thread calling out to JREF community announcing a facebook group with 28 members!

And you proudly announced a Facebook group with only 28,000 members. You are as "guilty" as he is. So I ask again: What's your point?

kameelyun

3rd July 2009, 06:24 PM

Here's the perspective: However insignificant you claim the truth movement to be, the so-called "debunker" movement (though I prefer the term "anti-truther", which is what most of you are, esp. the ones with say 15K posts in 2 years... how much do you prolific ones get paid?) is thousands of times less significant.

Throughout the thousands of DVD's I've given out on the streets, no one has ever barked back at me "Visit the JREF forum! It debunks all your nonsense!" Only 1 person cited Popular Mechanics, and when he did so, I gave him a free copy of Debunking 911 Debunking.

You claim that the TM is dead. Yet there are those dedicated anti-truthers on this forum who post on here day in, day out, trying to ridicule and attack any and all things 9/11 truth. The desperation of the anti-truthers is palpable. Every anniversary someone posts a new thread stating how as long as the movement exists and shows up at GZ, there will be the debunker community to oppose us.

So, is the movement dead, or not? Make up your debunker minds people! :D

~enigma~

3rd July 2009, 06:39 PM

So, is the movement dead, or not? Make up your debunker minds people! :D
Dead as in the sense of getting nothing and will never get anything done, YES, has been that way for almost 8 years. Dead on this forum, NO because some of the more rational posters (and I use that term loosely) keep dredging you people up (somebody is gonna call me a racist now) unnecessarily. Anyway the group you brought up shows a very interesting fact about the TM. Your group certainly outnumbers the "debunker" group by 1000 to 1 yet your impotent brethren has accomplished what with it's overwhelming paper tiger majority? However much like the Myspace 9/11 truth group I was a member of back in the days of my wild and carefree (read as stupid) youth had over 28000 members and made a huge deal about it. They actually had a moderator who checked logs of the active members and found it to be a core of barely 28 posters. What had happened is people either thought it was "cute" to register for the group or there were members who had 100 socks. Chances are it is the same in your Facebook group but if you prefer to delude yourself I will not stop you.

ETA - Not to mention the 25000 or so "rational" posters who registered only for the sole purpose of calling the group morons and the few hundred or so that registered just to spam. You do realize that banned members were still counted don't you?

Cl1mh4224rd

3rd July 2009, 06:40 PM

Here's the perspective: However insignificant you claim the truth movement to be, the so-called "debunker" movement [...] is thousands of times less significant.

You're mistaking numbers with significance. This isn't a popularity contest, you know that, right?

Five-hundred-thousand people can believe that the sky is pink, and only twenty-thousand may actively oppose that notion. That doesn't make the Pink Sky Believers "significant".

That so few of "us" are needed to counter your movement's insanity is a great thing. It certainly doesn't reflect well on your group.

Throughout the thousands of DVD's I've given out on the streets, no one has ever barked back at me "Visit the JREF forum! It debunks all your nonsense!"

Not surprising. Very, very few people are actually aware of the existence of this forum. But, more likely, it's because they treat you the same way they treat any fringe religious group handing out material on a street corner. They take what they're given and get the hell out of there. Most people don't like to get into a confrontation with people they think are crazy, especially when they know they only have to suffer a few seconds of their insanity before it's all over.

Only 1 person cited Popular Mechanics, and when he did so, I gave him a free copy of Debunking 911 Debunking.

And what did he do with it?

You claim that the TM is dead.

No, I don't. Please try harder to refrain from engaging in fantasy.

Yet there are those dedicated anti-truthers on this forum who post on here day in, day out, trying to ridicule and attack any and all things 9/11 truth. The desperation of the anti-truthers is palpable.

You call posting on an single Internet forum... desperation? You really do lack perspective.

Every anniversary someone posts a new thread stating how as long as the movement exists and shows up at GZ, there will be the debunker community to oppose us.

Aaaaand?

Sword_Of_Truth

3rd July 2009, 06:59 PM

Comparisons with non-911-related groups are meaningless.

Stay in Iraq Until the Job is Done (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2207515106) (61,437 members) <-- War on Terror
Support For Troops in Iraq (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=13468216595) (378,784 members) <-- War on Terror
100 Million Facebook members for Democracy in Iran (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=105160039272) (200,189 members) <-- Islamic Extremism

Also, adding to what Cl1mh4224rd found:

Support Canadian Troops in Afghanistan (http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=2211830485#/group.php?gid=2262960917) 76,960 members <-- War on Terror
I Support Israel in the War Against Terrorism (http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=2211830485#/group.php?gid=2208363470) 69,588 members <-- War on Terror... in fact... the Israel group is the extreme polar opposite of the "9/11-was-a-jew-job" movement.

So tell me, why did you lie about these groups not being 9/11 related when we could all see that they were just from the titles?

sylvan8798

3rd July 2009, 08:15 PM

The desperation of the anti-truthers is palpable. Every anniversary someone posts a new thread stating how as long as the movement exists and shows up at GZ, there will be the debunker community to oppose us.

So, is the movement dead, or not? Make up your debunker minds people! :D

Why would we be "desperate"? Ya gonna do something bad or somethin?:rolleyes:

eromitlab

3rd July 2009, 08:31 PM

Truthers' evidence that their movement is growing is as solid as their evidence that the people who actively oppose them are paid government shills.

portlandatheist

3rd July 2009, 08:54 PM

One of the comments for the Facebook Truthers:
Iran protesters confess to being bribed by the BBC and voice of America.
What is wrong with these retards? What the hell are they promoting?

Sword_Of_Truth

3rd July 2009, 09:42 PM

What is wrong with these retards? What the hell are they promoting?

Tyranny by a band of close minded religious fanatics.

1337m4n

3rd July 2009, 10:01 PM

To look at it from another perspective, the "The Earth Is Not Flat You Morons" facebook group...does not exist at all. Wheraes there are a number of pro-Flat Earth groups. So by kameelyun's "logic" the Flat Earthers must be winning!!!

Bobert

3rd July 2009, 10:40 PM

Oh man and here I started to believe all this,"round earth" stuff!
Friggin JOOOS hiding all the gold at the very edge of the top side!

Tweeter

4th July 2009, 04:34 AM

need you people to join my group because i was in a argument with 911 conspiracy people and i need people for my group to help prove the point that they are retards.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=26277060722

Bwahahahaaha, i`m glad shes on your side.

Sword_Of_Truth

4th July 2009, 04:40 AM

Bwahahahaaha, i`m glad shes on your side.

Has your movement gotten any indictments yet?

Any arrests?

Any trials?

Any convictions?

Or even that new investigation you've been bitching about since 9/12?

Has your movement achieved anything except the killing of three police officers and a security gaurd?

Why are you laughing again?

Tweeter

4th July 2009, 04:52 AM

Calm down, SOT.
I was just laughing at Marvin`s run on sentence. Heres an idea so you guys can save some "face". Go and get a few jref`ers to join his FB a few hundred times a piece.

Sword_Of_Truth

4th July 2009, 04:58 AM

Calm down, SOT.
I was just laughing at Marvin`s run on sentence.

Yes, I saw that. It's about the only thing you've had to laugh at in nearly 8 years (except for maybe the deaths of those police officers).

Congratulations on your minor victory.

Too bad about letting the perpetrators of the biggest mass murder in US history get away with their crimes and get stinking filthy rich though.