7/7 Inconsistencies Fuel Conspiracy Theories

[Red3]

Conspiracy fever: As rumours swell that the government staged 7/7, victims' relatives call for a proper inquiry

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1197419/Conspiracy-fever-As-rumours-swell-government-staged-7-7-victims-relatives-proper-inquiry.html

[Brainster]

That is a terrible article; conflating the legitimate calls for a public inquiry with the conspiracy theory nuttery, and very much pushing the latter. I still have not yet seen the conspiracy files documentary on this but I'm sure it takes care of the timing questions.

[Red3]

That is a terrible article; conflating the legitimate calls for a public inquiry with the conspiracy theory nuttery, and very much pushing the latter. I still have not yet seen the conspiracy files documentary on this but I'm sure it takes care of the timing questions.

I'm just watching that now. I agree the article is terrible; it's alarmingly inflammatory.

[Undesired Walrus]

A still CCTV photo of the four bombers arriving at the station in Luton is the only one of the four men together on July 7. Controversially, no CCTV images, either still or moving, of them in London have ever been released.

Sheer nonesense.

03:00 in this video:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7538046.stm

The Truth Campaign group is equally sceptical about the bombers' supposed arrival time at King's Cross.
They say it takes seven minutes to walk from the Thameslink line station to the main King's Cross station, where there is an entrance to the Tube network.
Police say the four men were seen on the main King's Cross concourse at 8.26am, although no CCTV footage has ever been made public.
But is this possible? How had the men got there in three short minutes after getting off the Luton train at 8.23am


Because in reality it takes about two minutes.

Awful article.

[8den]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1197419/Conspiracy-fever-As-rumours-swell-government-staged-7-7-victims-relatives-proper-inquiry.html

I wrote a comment on the article, but unsurprisingly it wasn't published. This is shoddy journalism it's obvious the author basically half watched the BBC documentary. There is so much second hand reporting, for example;

Mr Naseem, a well-educated man, had made 2,000 copies of Ripple Effect for members of his mosque. Research has revealed that even before the contentious video came out, one in four British Muslims thought the Government or the Secret Services were responsible for the 7/7 atrocities. Now the number of doubters is growing.

At Friday prayers recently, Dr Naseem asked the congregation to raise their hands if they did not accept the government version of events. Nearly the entire gathering of 150 men and boys did so. He then urged his audience to collect free copies of Ripple Effect at the back of the mosque.

These are obviously culled from the documentary, but the journalist recounts them as if it's a first hand account.

It's the worst kind of dreadful nonsense.

[funk de fino]

All the 7/7 stuff is nonsense. Jihad Jane had a stinker on this subject previously.

[Brainster]

Ah, mystery solved. Article is by Sue Reid, who appears to be the resident conspiracy nutbar at the Daily Mail. Check out this overly credulous report (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-435265/An-explosion-disbelief--fresh-doubts-9-11.html) on Loose Change by Reid from 2007:

Together, the book and the movie have raised the question: could the attack be a carbon copy of Operation Northwoods, an aborted plan by President Kennedy to stage terror attacks in America and blame them on Communist Cuba as a pretext for a U.S. invasion to overthrow Fidel Castro?

In other words, on a fateful September morning in 2001, did America fabricate an outrage against civilians to fool the world and provide a pretext for war on Al Qaeda and Iraq?

This, and other deeply disturbing questions, are now being furiously debated on both sides of the Atlantic.

[Red3]

Is it me or is the tide of woo getting too high for comfort?

[Stellafane]

Is it me or is the tide of woo getting too high for comfort?

This, in a nutshell, is the answer to the age-old question we keep asking ourselves: "Why bother?" Because when we don't, the ignorance peddlers start running around unabated, foisting their paranoid, malicious crap to the uninformed. There needs to be some sort of counter to this stuff, at least for those who are truly interested in learning the truth (those that are not aren't going to listen to reason anyway). I can only imagine how high this tide of idiocy would be running without a few skeptics helping keep it down in the sewers where it belongs.

[peteweaver]

One of the major newspapers erroneously reported that the men had caught the 7.40am from Luton (which was cancelled, but would have got into Kings Cross at 8.16am). Some conspiracy theories claim they couldn't have been at Kings Cross by 8.23 when they were filmed, however the 7.25am service from Luton, (which is the one they caught) gets in at 8.23am.