Remember when [blank] was supposed to happen

[abenja1]

In this thread, put down the things that CTers have said were going to happen but never did, I'll start.

George Bush was going to amend the Constitution and stop the election of 09 and become President for life.

[defaultdotxbe]

after the 2008 election proceeded normally bush was going to come up with some other excuse to remain in office past 1/20/09


ETA: now that i think about there were some pretty amusing things said about the 1/20/09 thing, a lot of CTers seemed to be under the impression that is bush physically refused to leave the oval office that alone would prevent presidential authority from being transferred

[TS-]

Bush of course knew where Osama bin Laden was, and was going to "capture" him right before the 2004 elections so everyone would vote for him.

I heard that one a lot... ...sometimes, people are stupid.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

George Bush was going to amend the Constitution and stop the election of 09 and become President for life.


Another variation: They™ were going to stage another major terrorist attack just before the elections so that Bush could declare martial law and postpone the elections indefinitely.

I think one truther "predicted" and "accidental" nuclear detonation in Portland, Oregon. I can't remember the date, but we're well beyond it without incident.

I'm pretty sure Alex Jones also "predicted" bone-shattering terrorist attacks on U.S. soil in the years following 9/11 (all of them inside jobs, of course).

[LightinDarkness]

An oldie but a goodie -
Planet X doomsday of 2003. That was extraordinarily amusing and somewhat sad. A lot of idiot Planet X followers killed their pets because they thought the Annuaki were going to fly to their background and pick them up.

A more recent version with a different charlatan -
In October "Blossom Goodchild" a UNFO medium declared that the aliens were finally going to go all visit us at the end of the month and it was time to board the spaceships. With absolutely no proof except Blossom's ranting youtube videos, she got thousands of cult like followers who still insist the Aliens are just around the corner.

The monthly favorite January/February/March/April/May/June/July/August/September/October/November/December of <Insert every year here> will start martial law! -
Prediction success rate: 0%

Finally, at one point on ATS I started to chronicle all the doomsdays because a majority of ATS members are under the delusion that a "majority" have been right when none of them have. After 1 day I had 103 predictions for utter doom within the next 6 months - none of them came true.

[Juniversal]

Martial Law, guns weren't banned and FEMA camps don't exist. This thread title needs to be changed to "Remember when Alex Jones said [blank] was supposed to happen" to see just how laughably bad Alex Jone's track record is.

[skullerello]

Back in January of 07 I was supposed to win the MDC because I correctly predicted that nothing any woo nutjob was going to predict- or had already predicted- would come to pass; further predicting that I, in fact, would not win the MDC. Which I haven't.
Doesn't that qualify?!
Jeff! Jeff!
"Show me da money!"

[Nosi]

I await the garden police. Supposedly, the government wants a stranglehold on the food supply. They've yet to arrest me for growing herbs (Not pot), the occasional small veggie, and even a potato in containers in pots on my staircase landing... Most of my plants are in plain view.:p

[CptColumbo]

I remember back in the mid-90s, when I would be driving home late at night, some former USAF Major on the Art Bell show predicted that the Earth would be destroyed in 2 years.

[JimBenArm]

Weren't we all supposed to be in FEMA death camps by now?

[aggle-rithm]

Well, it's a good thing the troofiness movement came along and stopped all this from happening.

[Ysidro]

We are already in the FEMA deathcamps! They're just THAT GOOD at making you not believe it! :eek:

[Brainster]

after the 2008 election proceeded normally bush was going to come up with some other excuse to remain in office past 1/20/09

I seem to remember too that there was some claim that John Roberts intentionally blew the words to the oath of office so that Obama didn't really become president. Although that doesn't fit the OP of a prediction.

[Brainster]

Here's a good one: Ron Paul was going to be assassinated (http://prisonplanet.com/articles/december2007/121407_assassinating_paul.htm) because he was getting too popular:

"I am getting information from my sources that there are people involved from a higher level of the American establishment who are seriously considering - this has not been confirmed - but assassination is definitely on the agenda and I pray to God that this is not the case," said Estulin.

Of course, the Ron Paul express was seriously delayed once people actually started voting in the primaries, rather than on internet polls.

[fezzic]

Bush of course knew where Osama bin Laden was, and was going to "capture" him right before the 2004 elections so everyone would vote for him.

I heard that one a lot... ...sometimes, people are stupid.

The way I understood it, Bush had captured bin Laden already, keeping it under wraps, and would produce him at the right time for the 2004 elections.

[Ohnoes]

Wasn't there suppose to be something big that happened in the first 6 months of Obamas presidency? I know a lot has happened, but I think it was suppose to be some terrorist attack or something.

[defaultdotxbe]

Wasn't there suppose to be something big that happened in the first 6 months of Obamas presidency? I know a lot has happened, but I think it was suppose to be some terrorist attack or something.
we still got 2 weeks on that though, dont we?

[Dr. Lao]

Hell, I remember that Clinton wasn't gonna leave office and declare martial law.

What about all the coffins? Millions of them sent.

Or the FEMA camps and the railroads to them?

My favorite, been hearing this for 40 years.

NWO/Bilderbergers/Illuminati/Paul Lynde is gonna take over the world! No more borders, one currency, man, its just about to happen.

[Ohnoes]

we still got 2 weeks on that though, dont we?

Ugh really? Just like those terrorist to wait till the last minute!:rolleyes:

[Horatius]

Ugh really? Just like those terrorist to wait till the last minute!:rolleyes:



Well, what would you expect from government bureaucrats?

:duck:

[aggle-rithm]

1 month before predicted event:

"Just wait till next month! You shills and traitors will get your commupance!!"

1 week before predicted event:

"It's just around the corner! THEN you'll see how things REALLY are!"

1 day before predicted event:

"The day of reckoning is upon us! Better get ready! Things are gonna be different from now on!"

Day after predicted event:

"Oh, that. That was nothing important. Why are you so obsessed about it?"

[geni]

John Titor's predictions. Civil war in 2008 no olympics after 2004 etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor#Predictive_failures

[Alt+F4]

Remember how the NWO would launch false flag attacks on 7/7/07, 6/6/06 and 5/5/05? They couldn't resist those numbers!

[aggle-rithm]

What about all the coffins? Millions of them sent.


I could never figure that one out. FEMA seems much more like the "mass grave" type of evil cabal.

[aggle-rithm]

Remember how the NWO would launch false flag attacks on 7/7/07, 6/6/06 and 5/5/05? They couldn't resist those numbers!

Uh-oh.

In just thirty minutes, it's going to be 12:34:56 7/8/09.

Noooooo!!!

(Of course, that's US central time. If you're on the east coast, you've already experienced the apocolypse.)

[JihadJane]

I remember when they said global oil production was near to peaking. What fools!

[Sunray Breaker]

I just heard of a brand new one that's supposed to (NOT) happen tomorrow. My friend Sarah kept it pretty vague (which is lame cause I wanted to see what nonsense brought up this date and why)

She merely told me that her closest friend was the son of a Freemason and to be away from any major city on July 8th 2009...Nothing will happen, but there'll likely be a small panic (2-5 people)

She's running to the hills as we speak, convinced that a nuclear holocaust won't make it to the mountains, where, even if she does survive, they'll all likely kill eachother by the thousands anyway in a desperate scratch for reliable resources.

So cash in your chips folks, you've got less than 24 hours...Perhaps it's the Sumerian Lizard Joos coming to enslave us for our gold? Too bad we switched to the dollar!!!

SUCKERS!!!

[GeoffreyRunsBrooklyn]

Three words: "Dr." Bill Deagle ...

This guy's Grenada Forum "lecture" claimed that "weaponized" & "engineered' avian flu would kill a majority of the world's population by the end of 2007 ... Then again he also claimed that there were giant cities underneath the United States, he was contacted by aliens to be the "chief of staff" of the Galactic overlord (who is, of course, a reptilian), he was present for the Oklahoma City Bombings, the Columbine shootings & the 9/11 attacks, that Atlantis & Lemuria exist & there was a nuclear war 10,000 years ago in India ... & I could go on, but, golly, you know ...

He also had the audacity to come back during the recent swine flu epidemic & essentially claim the same thing ... Unreal.

[JimBenArm]

I remember when they said global oil production was near to peaking. What fools!
Yeah.

[jmcvann]

Uh-oh.

In just thirty minutes, it's going to be 12:34:56 7/8/09.

Noooooo!!!

(Of course, that's US central time. If you're on the east coast, you've already experienced the apocolypse.)

Uhh...Today is 7/7. We have 24 hours left before THE END OF THE WORLD! (Unless you're a time-traveler! Are you here to save us??? Take me! Take me!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

[timhau]

Weren't we all supposed to be in FEMA death camps by now?

Yeah, but you see... there are so many of us, that instead of putting us all in death camps, They TM decided to just put a fence around the planet.

[Björn Toulouse]

The false flag sinking of the USS Enterprise (http://iraqwar.mirror-world.ru/article/104451).

[Dr. Lao]

The aliens are just about to land, its true!
A new global currency is about to be introduced!
A new genetic virus is about to be unleashed!
Y2K will cause global uproar!
The poles are about to shift, causing massive death!
500 MPH winds will sweep the planet, soon!

What are these nuts going to do when 2012 comes and goes and nothing happens?

[Foolmewunz]

We had at least fifteen different deadlines ever-shifting (I think there are a few coming up) for when the invasion of Iran would start.

Over on ATS they even had someone doing a Lauro Chavez, pretending to work on the flight deck of the Reagan and having been involved in sooper sekret late night drills that could only have been in preparation for the long inland flights to get to Teheran.

I think there were a dozen such "friend of mine in the service" experts who knew for a fact that it was "set for the 5th"(or whatever date they named in their post).

[linusrichard]

I know a CTer on another forum who often will sign his posts in numbers, counting down. So one day he'll sign his posts "32," and the next day "31," and so on. But he never actually says what he's counting down to. Once he gets down to 0 he just stops, and doesn't say anything. Then he'll start it up again a while later.

I think he's just hoping that someday, out of sheer dumb luck, something major will happen on or near "day 0," and he'll look like a genius.

Most recent countdown was to June 23, 2009. Anything earth-shattering happen that day that I may have missed? Was he counting down to the death of Ed McMahon? Was Ed McMahon killed by the NWO because he knew too much? Connect the dots, people.

[JimBenArm]

I know a CTer on another forum who often will sign his posts in numbers, counting down. So one day he'll sign his posts "32," and the next day "31," and so on. But he never actually says what he's counting down to. Once he gets down to 0 he just stops, and doesn't say anything. Then he'll start it up again a while later.

I think he's just hoping that someday, out of sheer dumb luck, something major will happen on or near "day 0," and he'll look like a genius.

Most recent countdown was to June 23, 2009. Anything earth-shattering happen that day that I may have missed? Was he counting down to the death of Ed McMahon? Was Ed McMahon killed by the NWO because he knew too much? Connect the dots, people.
It's because he sucked at security. Every time we had Johnny in a safe location, he'd pop up with "Heeeeere's Johnny!" and we'd have to move him again!
That, and that annoying laugh...

[linusrichard]

That, and that annoying laugh...

A side effect of too much exposure to nanothermite, no doubt. And chemtrails.

[aggle-rithm]

I know a CTer on another forum who often will sign his posts in numbers, counting down. So one day he'll sign his posts "32," and the next day "31," and so on. But he never actually says what he's counting down to. Once he gets down to 0 he just stops, and doesn't say anything. Then he'll start it up again a while later.

I think he's just hoping that someday, out of sheer dumb luck, something major will happen on or near "day 0," and he'll look like a genius.

Most recent countdown was to June 23, 2009. Anything earth-shattering happen that day that I may have missed?

That's the beauty of conspiracy theories. Nobody has to notice anything! The fact that no one noticed PROVES what a huge and powerful conspiracy it is.

It happened, people! Whatever it was! Wake up!!!

[Praktik]

I know a CTer on another forum who often will sign his posts in numbers, counting down. So one day he'll sign his posts "32," and the next day "31," and so on. But he never actually says what he's counting down to. Once he gets down to 0 he just stops, and doesn't say anything. Then he'll start it up again a while later.

I do this on long waits for the bus. I look down the road longingly, start a countdown from 10, and hope that when I arrive on "1" (or "0" if I need it!) the bus appears.

It hardly ever works...;)

[tsig]

1 month before predicted event:

"Just wait till next month! You shills and traitors will get your commupance!!"

1 week before predicted event:

"It's just around the corner! THEN you'll see how things REALLY are!"

1 day before predicted event:

"The day of reckoning is upon us! Better get ready! Things are gonna be different from now on!"

Day after predicted event:

"Oh, that. That was nothing important. Why are you so obsessed about it?"

You've been reading the "Secrets of Prophecy" by Iama Sham.

[tsig]

The aliens are just about to land, its true!
A new global currency is about to be introduced!
A new genetic virus is about to be unleashed!
Y2K will cause global uproar!
The poles are about to shift, causing massive death!
500 MPH winds will sweep the planet, soon!

What are these nuts going to do when 2012 comes and goes and nothing happens?

Claim that you are the one making things up.

[portlandatheist]

you better buy gold before its too late!

[Zorglub]

Project Lucifer. The evil cabal was supposed to turn Jupiter into a sun with the Gallileo-probe. When that failed they set for the Cassini wich was supposed to turn Saturn into a sun.
-Oh it didn´t work out with Jupiter? Ok, let´s go for the smaller gas giant then.

http://www.universetoday.com/2008/07/31/project-lucifer-will-cassini-turn-saturn-into-a-second-sun-part-2/

http://cyberspaceorbit.com/saturn/lpnew.htm

Oh, there´s a nice list of JAQ:ing at the bottom of the last link.

[LightinDarkness]

you better buy gold before its too late!

A personal favorite of mine. Along with every recession meaning that the economy is collapsing, the great depression II is nigh, and we should all run around in circles and act hysterical.

[aggle-rithm]

Project Lucifer. The evil cabal was supposed to turn Jupiter into a sun with the Gallileo-probe. When that failed they set for the Cassini wich was supposed to turn Saturn into a sun.



Somebody saw the movie 2010.

Why do conspiracy nutters think movies are real?


-Oh it didn´t work out with Jupiter? Ok, let´s go for the smaller gas giant then.


Maybe they should start with something simpler, like turning planets into asteroids.

[aggle-rithm]

A personal favorite of mine. Along with every recession meaning that the economy is collapsing, the great depression II is nigh, and we should all run around in circles and act hysterical.

It's really the only way. ;)

[Zorglub]

Somebody saw the movie 2010.

Why do conspiracy nutters think movies are real?A good question. I once debated with a "open minded" person who claimed that sci-fi movies deliberately wants to make us scared about evil aliens. Eventually They™ are chemtrailing the atmosphere to transform it into some sort of giant cinema screen. They™ will then project an invading alien armada on this "screen". And as we, by the doing of evil sci-fi directors/writers, are already trembling at the thought about aliens They™ will be able to declare martial law to protect us.
Guess he never heard about E.T and Coneheads.



Maybe they should start with something simpler, like turning planets into asteroids.
You know, that asteroid belt between mars and Jupiter......

[rambaldi]

Why do conspiracy nutters think movies are real?


Because they all *know* that Hollywood is run by the same illuminated reptiloid Jews that secretly rule the World...

[Nosi]

We had at least fifteen different deadlines ever-shifting (I think there are a few coming up) for when the invasion of Iran would start.

Over on ATS they even had someone doing a Lauro Chavez, pretending to work on the flight deck of the Reagan and having been involved in sooper sekret late night drills that could only have been in preparation for the long inland flights to get to Teheran.

I think there were a dozen such "friend of mine in the service" experts who knew for a fact that it was "set for the 5th"(or whatever date they named in their post).
Personally, I'm more concerned about North Korea and it's Nutter of a Dear Leader shooting one off.

[Nosi]

You do have to admit that the economy has serious acid indigestion de Wall Street and that has all the Woos outa their holes big time... What no one is noticing is that there are sectors of the economy that are thriving, and some are actually quite hot.

[soylent]

Oil was supposed to peak and enter a merciless 4-8% year-on-year decline in ...2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008...

[Dave Rogers]

According to bill smith, any time now the US Government is going to admit that WTC1, 2 and 7 were brought down by explosives, but blame al-Qaeda. "Any time now" has been going on for quite a while.

Dave

[timhau]

Apparently, the great thing about "any time now" is that it can go on forever.

[CORed]

Yes, but Y2K really did happen. I saw lot's of websites displaying the year as "19100" on 1/1/2000.

[defaultdotxbe]

but it wasnt the global apocalypse it was supposed to be

[Alt+F4]

Apparently, the great thing about "any time now" is that it can go on forever.

Yup, that's why the Jehovah's Witnesses stopped picking dates.

[Alt+F4]

Yes, but Y2K really did happen. I saw lot's of websites displaying the year as "19100" on 1/1/2000.

I also had a guy once insist to me that 9/11 happened on a Monday (rather than Tuesday) because he set his computer's clock to September 11, 2001 and it said Monday.

And you're right, January 1, 2000 really did happen.

[Dr Adequate]

Ooh, look what just didn't happen (http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&t=13528):

7/11, 2009: Two Types of "Obamas"
Make no mistake: there will be two fake suicide obombers (5) detonating on 7/11. (6)
The first "Obama" will participate in the official explosion, the only explosion that was included in the A-Plan, that was to be executed BEFORE the November 2008 "elections": he will explode as "Kenyan" (or more precisely: British), packaged for one group. (7)

The second Obama will be much more explosive, and was only part of the B-Plan, that will now be carried out: he will blow himself up unofficially as "son of Malcolm X", packaged for the other group. (8)

What TWO groups are we talking about here?
For once the answer does not literally return the usual "black and white" paintings produced by Illuminati art. (9)

While the illuminati media will be selling the official version for the whites, Al Sharpton and the rest of the illuminati agents playing "the race" card will be selling the "Son of Malcom X" version, where "muslim" "Hussein Obama" (10) will ensure that muslims will enter the end times pogroms long before the day they had planned, i.e. the day where, once they would become the majority, they would finally begin exterminating the rest. (11)

In the Supreme Court the new illuminati actress Sonia Sotomayor will play the role of "trying" to stop "Obama's" impeachment, playing a key role to have "La Raza" joining blacks. (12)

Meanwhile, to ensure the unity of whites behind the last "Führer", "conservative" Sarah Palin (13) will join the cabinet of Terminator Hillary Clinton (14), who will be declared the real 44th President (15), i.e. the successor of the actor in the failed role of real "son of Man", GW Bush.

And now the backpedaling:

Why illuminati postponed once again "Obama" explosion scheduled for 7/11

Coward FAIILLUMINATI once again show how terminal their cancer is by proving again that they have not enough force left to let fake suicide bomber "Obama" detonate, at the date (1) or before the date (2) that they had previously announced.

This time they postponed the launch of ethnic civil war because they had to admit that they need "Obama" for sheep to swallow VACCISSASSINATION.

[LightinDarkness]

I love how the fruitloops predict crazy stuff like that and then declare it was their prediction that stopped it.

The logic loops are simply amazing. An all powerful body hell bent on world domination not only plots a bombing, but leaves morsels and clues for the CTers to find. Then when the CTers find the clues, the Illuminati ALWAYS seem to postpone the plot for an even wider Apocalypse.

So powerful they control the world...to dumb to do anything.

[Blue Mountain]

Then there was Eric Julien's prediction that there would be a major cataclysm on May 25, 2006 (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=57400). Not really a conspiracy theory; just another mistaken end-of-the-world prophet.

[CORed]

but it wasnt the global apocalypse it was supposed to be

Well no. Y2k was a case where a real problem was absurdly blown out of proportion. I did quite a bit of work on testing and prep related to Y2K. For the most part, it was a matter of expanding 2 digit years to 4 digits (which still leaves us with a potential Y10K problem, but we've got a bit of time to deal with that one. Y2K, if nothing had been done, could have caused a fair amount of disruption and inconvenience, though certainly not the global catastrophe that the ignorant nutcases were predicting. However, the nutters seemed to be working under the assumption that any kind of computer system that had an incorrect date would instantly crash, even embedded microprocessors in elevators, planes, etc. This was ridiculous. An elevator controller doesn't really need to know what the date is to work.

As for "19100", there's a function in c, perl and some other programming languages that was originally designed to return a 2 digit year. It returns the actual year minus 1900. Before 1/1/2000, there were two ways to convert this to a 4 digit year: Treat it as text and prepend "19" or treat it as a number and add 1900 back to it. Only the second one worked after 1/1/2000.

[aggle-rithm]

Well no. Y2k was a case where a real problem was absurdly blown out of proportion. I did quite a bit of work on testing and prep related to Y2K. For the most part, it was a matter of expanding 2 digit years to 4 digits (which still leaves us with a potential Y10K problem, but we've got a bit of time to deal with that one. Y2K, if nothing had been done, could have caused a fair amount of disruption and inconvenience, though certainly not the global catastrophe that the ignorant nutcases were predicting. However, the nutters seemed to be working under the assumption that any kind of computer system that had an incorrect date would instantly crash, even embedded microprocessors in elevators, planes, etc. This was ridiculous. An elevator controller doesn't really need to know what the date is to work.

As for "19100", there's a function in c, perl and some other programming languages that was originally designed to return a 2 digit year. It returns the actual year minus 1900. Before 1/1/2000, there were two ways to convert this to a 4 digit year: Treat it as text and prepend "19" or treat it as a number and add 1900 back to it. Only the second one worked after 1/1/2000.

The funny thing is that the Y2K bug in COBOL was fixed back in the 50's. Mormons needed a 4-digit year for their geneology programs, so the language was updated to accommodate them.

Unfortunately, programmers in other organizations didn't make use of the fix.

[David Rothscum]

I remember how the American government was claiming Saddam had weapons of Mass Destruction and could use them any moment as soon as we entered his magical circle around Baghdad. Of course you had these crazy conspiracy theorists back then who claimed Saddam didn't have any weapons of mass destruction, and the Bush and Blair government conspired to lie against the world, as a pretext to invade the country. Boy were they wrong!

[David Rothscum]

Mike Rivero from WhatReallyHappened.com is another crazy populist conspiracy theorist. Look at the prediction he made back in 2001:
http://web.archive.org/web/20011021051015/http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/quiz.html
(Note the date in the Archive.org URL, Oktober 21, 2001)

AN AFGHANISTAN QUIZ
What does Afghanistan have?
Natural gas, petroleum, coal, copper, chromite, talc, barites, sulfur, lead, zinc, iron ore, salt, precious and semiprecious stones, and more opium than the Burmese Golden Triangle.
The British Government fought a war in China over their "right" to sell what product to the Chinese people?
Opium. The corruption brought to China triggered the Boxer Rebellion and eventually helped the Communists into power.
In what business did the Tafts, Forbes, and Coolidges make their initial family fortunes?
Selling Opium to the British for export to China, called the "China Trade" in polite society of the time. Ever see those paper flowers the military veterens hand out on Memorial Day? Those represent Opium poppies, symbols of a deep sleep, and date from the time of the "China Trade". L. Frank Baum had opium in mind when the Wicked Witch Of The West used poppies to put Dorothy to sleep in the way to Oz.
What was the original funding source for the mysterious "Skull And Bones" fraternity at Yale University, of which so many of our leaders are alumni?
Opium sold to China funded the Russell Trust, "Skull & Bones" legal name.
What was the French Secret Service smuggling out of Vietnam and into the United States?
Opium, via the "French Connection", made famous by the movie of the same name.
After the French left, what was the CIA smuggling out of Vietnam and back to the United States in the body bags of our war dead?
Opium, via Air America, made famous by the movie of the same name. The Opium was sold to fund covert operations that the Congress would not approve of. The Opium was deliberatly sold (converted to heroin) in black neighborhoods to reduce the political backlash if discovered. When the Vietnam War ended, the US heroin problem went away. Prediction: Once we are mired in Afghanistan, the heroin problem will return to our streets.
Who has the largest stockpile of weapons-grade anthrax in the world?
The United States Of America.
Who was the last military commander to successfully invade Afghanistan?
Alexander The Great
Is anyone here aware of what happened to the Heroin production in Afghanistan after real American patriots colonized the country?

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Is anyone here aware of what happened to the Heroin production in Afghanistan after real American patriots colonized the country?


Yes, but I don't think you know what the word "colonized" means...

[David Rothscum]

Funny, here we have that crazy conspiracy theorist Webster Tarpley, take a look at what he predicted on 12 July 2005:

http://www.rense.com/general66/eed.htm

Generally, the invisible government appears dismayed by its loss of momentum and the constant erosion of the political position of its asset, Bush. 110,000 US factory workers lost their jobs in June, the worst total in a year and a half: auto and textiles are collapsing. The housing bubble may also be nearing its end, with the bankruptcy of Fannie Mae on the near-term agenda. World derivatives have officially reached $300 trillion, with JP Morgan Chase holding the largest single portfolio. The one virtuoso performance of July 7 was that of the Federal Reserve, Bank of England, and European Central Bank, which flooded equity and capital markets with liquidity through such vehicles as the Plunge Protection Team (PPT), turning a big Wall Street loss into a small gain..


Tarpley saw it back in 2005. What were the experts saying a year later?


http://web.archive.org/web/20061005034438/http://www.redding.com/redd/nw_business/article/0,2232,REDD_17527_5024778,00.html
The housing wail

By NICOLAS P. RETSINAS
September 26, 2006

"HOUSING BUST AHEAD."

The headline hints of catastrophe: a dot-com repeat, a bubble bursting, an economic apocalypse. Cassandra, though, can stop wailing: the expected price corrections mark a slowing in the rate of increase - not a precipitous decline. This will not spark a chain reaction that will devastate homeowners, builders and communities. Contradicting another gloomy seer, Chicken Little, the sky is not falling.


Let me alleviate some fears.

Fear One: Prices will plummet.

From the start, the much-vaunted housing "boom" was an uneven phenomenon, driven by a strong demand for housing, coupled with constrained supply, particularly on the two coasts. In much of the nation, housing prices rose modestly; in a few areas, prices did not budge.

In those overheated markets - often fueled by immigration - prices were rising by as much as 20 percent a year. But even with soaring demand and limited supply, that escalation was not sustainable. Even with too-good-to-be-true mortgages, people cannot afford to buy homes that cost five times their income.

So in those overheated markets, moderation is expected. Moderation means that prices will stop rising at meteoric rates: The homeowner who expected a double-digit profit after one year will be disappointed. A home will once again be more of a domicile, rather than an investment. In some regions, prices will flatten, rising around the inflation rate, which is the historic average. The fundamentals behind high prices - strong demand (more households will form in the next decade than in the last) and constrained supply - persist.


http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/jun2005/nf20050622_9404_db008.htm
JUNE 22, 2005
Frank Nothaft, chief economist, Freddie Mac:

I don't foresee any national decline in home price values. Freddie Mac's analysis of single-family houses over the last half century hasn't shown a single year when the national average housing price has gone down. The last consistent drop was during the Great Depression, when the unemployment rate got up to 25%, or five times the level we're at now.

[David Rothscum]

Archive.org saved this page on March 02 of 2004:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040302033420/http://www.iacenter.org/iraq-collon.htm

You will like the predictions it made:

The essence of Gelb's plan is to plunge Iraq into a long civil war in order to rescue the U.S. colonial occupation and to be able to continue stealing oil. The U.S. will attempt to divide the resistance -- which can be found in all of the various populations -- by punishing those who would continue to live together and by hypocritically organizing "ethnic cleansing." The U.S. plan is to divide Iraq by blackmail, while defaming the Sunnis, who have long been at the forefront of resistance to imperialism

In short, if the USA is permitted to divide up Iraq, important "minorities" risk being targets throughout the country. Then, Bush is going to say that he is obliged to keep his troops there to "protect" these minorities. Exactly as in Kosovo, where the U.S. has installed a military base with a landing strip that can accomodate bombers (sic !), after having systematically fanned the flames of the conflict behind the scenes. Today, the USA in Kosovo is protecting KLA criminals and the mafia which practices ethnic cleansing. (see Test-medias, Kosovo questions 2, 5, 7 in our report "Autopsy of Yugoslavia").


Anyone interested in some more predictions from those crazy conspiracy theorists?

[Cl1mh4224rd]

You may want to start a new thread for those. They're off-topic here.