Lets say I consider myself a freeman

[Squidgy]

I realise there is another freeman thread in this forum but I just want feedback about this particular coincidence. I have not started this thread to argue about how valid the freeman theory is, more to get an answer to the following:

I have read a fair bit about FOTL. I can't say at this point I know how viable this philosophy is but I get the general gist of the idea.

People claim to have exercised these right's on http://www.thinkfreeforums.org/index.php but I have seen little evidence of their claims being true. That said, I had a thought a few moments ago.

The famous Rothschild family are huge in NWO woo. In the freeman concept if you enter a courtroom for say, a parking ticket, but refuse to approach the stand unless acknowledged as 'forenames' 'of' 'family name' representing Mr/Ms/Mrs 'First name' 'last name' then under admiralty law they have no duristiction over you untill they accept that you are a representitive of the contract that is your birth certificate and therefore aren't the defendent.

My thought about this is: Why are the Rothschild's called 'de Rothschild'?
As in 'of Rothschild' e.g David Mayer of Rothschild, Evelyn Robert of Rothschild.

I see a big connection with the freeman theory. Any thoughts?

[JimBenArm]

I don't see what you're getting at. Sorry.

[Squidgy]

np :)

Why are they 'of Rothschild'?

[Checkmite]

He's suggesting that people, like those amongst this particular family who decide to refer to themselves as "blank - OF - Rothschild", might....I don't know, use their strange naming convention to get out of legal trouble?

The problem is, the naming convention really doesn't matter; so no, it wouldn't work.

[Doctor Evil]

The infamous Rothschild family are huge in NWO woo.


Why are the Rothschilds infamous?

[Squidgy]

He's suggesting that people, like those amongst this particular family who decide to refer to themselves as "blank - OF - Rothschild", might....I don't know, use their strange naming convention to get out of legal trouble?

The problem is, the naming convention really doesn't matter; so no, it wouldn't work.
Maybe, but can you imagine a member of the Rothschild family getting a parking ticket? It would ripped up on site with no repercussions because there is no way they would ever be summoned to court. Imho.

[Squidgy]

Why are the Rothschilds infamous?
Because they are considered by CT's to be huge players in the funky NWO.

[Doctor Evil]

Because they are considered by CT's to be huge players in the funky NWO.

That is not a very helpful answer. You just told me that they are infamous because some people think so. Is there any real reason behind this? Do you have any relevant evidence?

[Fiona]

Maybe, but can you imagine a member of the Rothschild family getting a parking ticket? It would ripped up on site with no repercussions because there is no way they would ever be summoned to court. Imho.

You don't go to court for a parking ticket, Squidgy. It is a fixed penalty and you pay your fine and that is that. I do not think there is any reason to suppose the Rothschild's would not get parking tickets like anybody else: though the fact that the chauffeur has nothing better to do when they get out then find a legal space while he is waiting might make it a little less likely than it is for the rest of us: and I imagine if they did get one they could afford it

[Mikister]

Is there any real reason behind this?

They were the premier bankers of the 19th century who established global banking systems. As such, they are viewed to hold incredible influence over global affairs. Also, the Rockefellers and Rothschilds were historical allies.

They likely faced a lot of opposition due to common anti-semitic and anti-zionist currents prevalent in Europe in the 19th to 20th century. As their generations progress, the anti-semitic remarks fade but the conspiracy theories remain.

[Squidgy]

You don't go to court for a parking ticket, Squidgy. It is a fixed penalty and you pay your fine and that is that. I do not think there is any reason to suppose the Rothschild's would not get parking tickets like anybody else: though the fact that the chauffeur has nothing better to do when they get out then find a legal space while he is waiting might make it a little less likely than it is for the rest of us: and I imagine if they did get one they could afford it
Yeah ok, good point but Evelyn was known for driving sportscars when he was younger so he must have parked sometime. Not that that matters a dam.
If you refuse to pay said fine then you will more than likely go to court.

Back on topic, why are the Rothschild's 'de Rothschild's?

[Squidgy]

That is not a very helpful answer. You just told me that they are infamous because some people think so. Is there any real reason behind this? Do you have any relevant evidence?
Infamous among truthers, was what I meant. I can update the OP for you if you like? :rolleyes:

[Mikister]

Back on topic, why are the Rothschild's 'de Rothschild's?

If I recall, it was quite common for German and Austrian nobles in the 19th century to add "von" or "de" to their names. The first Rothschilds to attain nobility did so in 1816, so keep in mind that every Rothschild before that, and there are quite many, did not have "de" or "von" in their names.

In example, let's take Manfred von Richthofen, the German flying ace. He himself did nothing that would elevate him to nobility, but his birth into a prominent family allowed him to use "von" in his name.

[Elizabeth I]

Yeah ok, good point but Evelyn was known for driving sportscars when he was younger so he must have parked sometime. Not that that matters a dam.
If you refuse to pay said fine then you will more than likely go to court.


How old are you? If you don't pay your parking ticket nothing will happen until such time as (a) you are stopped by the police for some other offense and they run your license through the computer and find out you have an outstanding violation; or (b) your municipality decides to have a scofflaw round-up and gives everyone until a certain date to pay up; if you don't, then you might be arrested.

ETA: at least, in the U.S.

But in general, the police have much more worrisome things to deal with than going after some mope who skipped on a parking ticket.

[Squidgy]

If I recall, it was quite common for German and Austrian nobles in the 19th century to add "von" or "de" to their names. The first Rothschilds to attain nobility did so in 1816, so keep in mind that every Rothschild before that, and there are quite many, did not have "de" or "von" in their names.

In example, let's take Manfred von Richthofen, the German flying ace. He himself did nothing that would elevate him to nobility, but his birth into a prominent family allowed him to use "von" in his name.
Thank you for a straight answer. You are correct. There is no connection with the freeman theory :D

[Squidgy]

How old are you? If you don't pay your parking ticket nothing will happen until such time as (a) you are stopped by the police for some other offense and they run your license through the computer and find out you have an outstanding violation; or (b) your municipality decides to have a scofflaw round-up and gives everyone until a certain date to pay up; if you don't, then you might be arrested.

ETA: at least, in the U.S.

But in general, the police have much more worrisome things to deal with than going after some mope who skipped on a parking ticket.
I didn't know that, thanks. I don't have a drivers license so I wouldn't know. Me thinks I need to stop drinking so much and posting these awfull threads :o

[JimBenArm]

Yes, that would be nice. Please. Friends don't let friends post drunk!

[Elizabeth I]

I didn't know that, thanks. I don't have a drivers license so I wouldn't know. Me thinks I need to stop drinking so much and posting these awfull threads :o

No problem. I have friends who seem to have decided to decorate their glove compartments with unpaid tickets - at least from the number of them they have.

[Squidgy]

Yes, that would be nice. Please. Friends don't let friends post drunk!
:D

[Squidgy]

No problem. I have friends who seem to have decided to decorate their glove compartments with unpaid tickets - at least from the number of them they have.
Lol, I hope for their sake they don't get pulled over.

[1337m4n]

What kind of "freeman" are we talking about here?

http://blogs.pitch.com/plog/300px-Gordon_Freeman.jpg

[Foolmewunz]

How old are you? If you don't pay your parking ticket nothing will happen until such time as (a) you are stopped by the police for some other offense and they run your license through the computer and find out you have an outstanding violation; or (b) your municipality decides to have a scofflaw round-up and gives everyone until a certain date to pay up; if you don't, then you might be arrested.

ETA: at least, in the U.S.

But in general, the police have much more worrisome things to deal with than going after some mope who skipped on a parking ticket.

When the NWO fights the NWO

The evil commercial entity, UPS tried this "wrong name" game in the courts in a battle against that evil government entity, New York City. Must've been about 20/25 years ago.

They have those lovely brown stepvans made to order by GM/Fisher and there's no make/model of any sort anywhere on the old trucks. They had millions in parking tickets and they actually went to court to try to have them thrown out, contending that "UPS" was not the make/model, so on a technicality they shouldn't have to pay.

Sensible judge: "Ahhhh Shaddup!"

[JoeyDonuts]

I'd like to address the OP more directly.

You can consider yourself to be the Green *********** Lantern.

Don't necessarily make it so.

[Elizabeth I]

When the NWO fights the NWO

The evil commercial entity, UPS tried this "wrong name" game in the courts in a battle against that evil government entity, New York City. Must've been about 20/25 years ago.

They have those lovely brown stepvans made to order by GM/Fisher and there's no make/model of any sort anywhere on the old trucks. They had millions in parking tickets and they actually went to court to try to have them thrown out, contending that "UPS" was not the make/model, so on a technicality they shouldn't have to pay.

Sensible judge: "Ahhhh Shaddup!"

See, this is proof that there are too many lawyers with too much time on their hands.