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Luntoc
7th July 2009, 09:20 AM
Hey everyone this is my very first post regarding the 9/11 conspiracy theories and I would love for everyone to change their lives and welcome me to the this site.:D

Seriously, I was never one to believe in conspiracy theories. And I probaly never will. Mainly because if these claims were true (JFK, Holocaust, etc...)they would be reported period and would make big news. And another reason why is because of common sense. After all these years there is not a single piece of evidence to prove a conspiracy, just a bunch of speculation, which is what all conspiracy theories are based on. If the moon landing was faked then Russia would've revealed it to the world, period. If the Holocaust was fake then why did alot of Hitler's generals admitted it when they were captured? They had nothing to lose or fear since Hitler was dead? And I'm supposed to believe that the entire U.S. government, after all that planning, couldn't do something so simple like make sure the hijackers are dead?

Anyhow, I'm here to debate the 9/11 conspiracy claims with anyone, especially those who think it really was an inside job. And I'm also going to be asking for help, advice, facts, sources etc....when I need it. I got on the Prison planet forum and they banned me. I wonder why?

I never once believe anyone in the conspiracy movement. Mainly for several reasons. They have many different views. At least the government's version is consistent. These people don't know if the government LIHOP or MIHOP. As for the Twin Towers, first it was missiles under the planes, then it was a controlled demolition, not it's thermite and some claim all of them. And I still don't see what the difference is how the twin towers were destroyed if the government is still going to blame it on 19 radical muslims with sick beliefs.

Many other reasons why I don't believe in government conspiracy is the hypocrocies, lies, distortions, sudden amnesia, threats, and disagreements within the movement. Like why does Fetzer and Jones disagreewith the thermite claim. You would think they would be on the same page if it was true.

As for bin Laden, if he was working for the CIA as some still claim, why would he deny involvement in the attacks and why would they need to makea fake confession tape? Doesn't make the least bit of sense to me.

As for the people who say we are only there for the oil, well gas prices aren't exactly low and the U.S. is receiving less oil from Iraq and the entireMiddle East then before either wars. Not to mention the fact that the pipelinehasn't even began to be constructed. Yeah, we're there for the oil oh right.

Anyways, I'm here to debate and many other things as I stated earlier in this post. Hope to have alot of pleasent conversations with everyone including those who believe in this inside job.

P.S. For those who are wondering about my name it's actually an abbreviation about a speech Bush made to the U.N. soon after the attacks and it stands for Let us never tolerate outrageous conspriacy theories

JoeyDonuts
7th July 2009, 09:28 AM
Ummm...I think you took the wrong exit. Loose Change forums are thattaway.

I would further suggest that you have a look through the "Resources for Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories" section at the top of this page. A lot of good information.

Thirdly....forgive me for seeming untoward, but there's usually only one type of poster that makes their first post a "callout" thread.

alienentity
7th July 2009, 10:02 AM
Howdy, Luntoc

What do you mean by 'I would love for everyone to change their lives and welcome me to the this site'?

T.A.M.
7th July 2009, 10:06 AM
Howdy, Luntoc

What do you mean by 'I would love for everyone to change their lives and welcome me to the this site'?

probably sarcastic hyperbole.

TAM;)

Luntoc
7th July 2009, 10:21 AM
Howdy, Luntoc

What do you mean by 'I would love for everyone to change their lives and welcome me to the this site'?
I mean it will be the most honorable, pleasurable and greatest moment of your life once you welcome me.:D

T.A.M.
7th July 2009, 10:22 AM
I mean it will be the most honorable, pleasurable and greatest moment of your life once you welcome me.:D

See, sarcasm through hyperbole.

TAM:)

Alt+F4
7th July 2009, 10:27 AM
Anyhow, I'm here to debate the 9/11 conspiracy claims with anyone, especially those who think it really was an inside job.

Welcome! :)

There hasn't been any real debate here about 9/11 in I'd say a couple of years. The "truth movement" is dead. That doesn't mean you won't see the most outlandish and/or disrespectful posts from three or four posters who refuse to accept reality.

alienentity
7th July 2009, 10:39 AM
I mean it will be the most honorable, pleasurable and greatest moment of your life once you welcome me.:D

You'd never guess where I am as I read those words. Highly amusing.:p

alienentity
7th July 2009, 10:40 AM
Welcome! :)

There hasn't been any real debate here about 9/11 in I'd say a couple of years. The "truth movement" is dead. That doesn't mean you won't see the most outlandish and/or disrespectful posts from three or four posters who refuse to accept reality.

Your avatar! You couldn't...you didn't! It shames me to look.

alexi_drago
7th July 2009, 10:46 AM
You'd never guess where I am as I read those words. Highly amusing.:p

Miss Scarlet, in the study, with the rope?

Alt+F4
7th July 2009, 10:48 AM
Your avatar! You couldn't...you didn't! It shames me to look.

This is the first time I've changed my avatar in over two years of posting. I couldn't resist.....:cyclops:

alienentity
7th July 2009, 10:53 AM
Miss Scarlet, in the study, with the rope?

LOL, how'd you guess the rope?

alexi_drago
7th July 2009, 11:04 AM
LOL, how'd you guess the rope?

It's more fun than a candlestick.

Although some may debate that.

dudalb
7th July 2009, 12:10 PM
Fresh Meat, guys, Fresh Meat.....

T.A.M.
7th July 2009, 01:15 PM
I know...we lose Tweeter, but gain a few newbies...

TAM:)

Pardalis
7th July 2009, 03:03 PM
P.S. For those who are wondering about my name it's actually an abbreviation about a speech Bush made to the U.N. soon after the attacks and it stands for Let us never tolerate outrageous conspriacy theories

Just to keep you updated on world news, Bush is no longer the president of the USA.

Carry on.

And, btw, why did you leave out the "t" at the end? Shouldn't your username be "luntoct"?

jhunter1163
7th July 2009, 03:37 PM
The wrongness of that avatar is simply staggering.

But, welcome to the forum, Luntoc.

Is there a Biggest Non Sequitur award?

newton3376
7th July 2009, 05:11 PM
Ummm...I think you took the wrong exit. Loose Change forums are thattaway.

I would further suggest that you have a look through the "Resources for Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories" section at the top of this page. A lot of good information.

Thirdly....forgive me for seeming untoward, but there's usually only one type of poster that makes their first post a "callout" thread.

I think you pretty much summed up what I thought when I read this guys post....

Bobert
7th July 2009, 05:25 PM
Welcome! :)

There hasn't been any real debate here about 9/11 in I'd say a couple of years. The "truth movement" is dead. That doesn't mean you won't see the most outlandish and/or disrespectful posts from three or four posters who refuse to accept reality.
Is that MJ with boobs?
I was going to start a poll asking when MJ started to become a transexual in the FC but thought maybe it was too soon.
Sorry for being OT.

Bobert
7th July 2009, 05:30 PM
Luntoc (http://forums.randi.org/member.php?u=33201),
Welcome to the forum.
Is there a video you would like me to watch?

Luntoc
8th July 2009, 11:50 AM
Just to keep you updated on world news, Bush is no longer the president of the USA.

Carry on.

And, btw, why did you leave out the "t" at the end? Shouldn't your username be "luntoct"?

Let
Us
Never
Tolerate
Outrageous
Conspiracy theories

I left out the t on purpose. I thought about it but Luntoc looks better than Luntoct. Thats just me.

What do you mean Bush is no longer President? I thought he was going to declare martial law, cancel the elections and remain president forever.

Grizzly Bear
8th July 2009, 11:53 AM
What do you mean Bush is no longer President? I thought he was going to declare martial law, cancel the elections and remain president forever.

Somebody hacked the NWO servers and sat the date a few years forward.

Hey, we don't make the rules, we jus' enforce 'em

TheDaver
8th July 2009, 01:51 PM
I like the new guy. He’s funny.

Justin39640
8th July 2009, 01:57 PM
Let
Us
Never
Tolerate
Outrageous
Conspiracy theories

I left out the t on purpose. I thought about it but Luntoc looks better than Luntoct. Thats just me.

What do you mean Bush is no longer President? I thought he was going to declare martial law, cancel the elections and remain president forever.

lol
i frequent an aol chat room (the shame :()
and the local truther there predicted just that for over a year
he even had a countdown that he did every single day lol
"xxx days untill bush leaves office... unless"
o man did i laugh come january lol

this guy also predicted that 06/06/06 was the day bush would take over the world
june 7th was quite a laugh riot too lol

Bobert
8th July 2009, 01:58 PM
I like the new guy. He’s funny.
I think that he thinks that he is really pulling one over on us yet he was called out on his VERY FIRST POST!
Where is that failed picture?

newton3376
8th July 2009, 02:05 PM
I think that he thinks that he is really pulling one over on us yet he was called out on his VERY FIRST POST!
Where is that failed picture?

His first post was very very strange....

I will likely just ignore him....

Bobert
8th July 2009, 02:12 PM
YOU MUST check out his book thread!
It is a hoot!

VespaGuy
8th July 2009, 02:47 PM
I think that he thinks that he is really pulling one over on us yet he was called out on his VERY FIRST POST!
Where is that failed picture?

I always find it funny when 'fake debunkers' (or truthers pretending that they are 'on the fence') are called out immediately, yet they continue posting, ignoring all of the posts that call out the suspicious behaviour.

If he's telling the truth, why isn't Luntoc offended that he's being called out? I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt, but we've all seen this type of poster before and it always ends the same way.