Bobert
8th July 2009, 05:32 PM
I felt compelled to point out this thread over at ATS:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread476290/pg2
"New Pentagon Video Detailing Actual Flight Path Over Naval Annex"
On page 2 a poster by the name of BigSarge posted the following
Long time reader, first time poster. Decided to say something here as this is a subject I have direct knowledge of.
While I have no idea if our Government was part of any conspiracy on 9/11, I can tell you 100% unequivically that it was an American Airlines (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread476290/pg2#) plane that hit the Pentagon.
I can say this because at the time I was Soldier stationed at Ft. Myer, VA as a member of the US Army Honor Guard. We were conducting a funeral on 9-11-2001 in a section of Arlington cemetery that was right across from the Pentagon. We saw the plane come in from over the Naval Annex and seconds later watched the plane explode into the Pentagon. My group had been in the cemetery since early that morning and were unaware of the WTC attacks. We thought it was just a terrible accident.
For the week or so following, US Army Honor Guard Soldiers (myself included) were used to aid in recovery efforts inside the Pentagon. Essentially used for cleaning out all of the bodies and wreckage. I personally found suitcases, ID's, passports (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread476290/pg2#), and PLANE PARTS. Specifically parts with American Airlines markings. Lastly, based on the number of bodies and body parts that we pulled out of there, I would find it very hard to believe that it was an empty plane with no passengers, but I guess it could be possible as none of them were identifiable.
Anyway, take what I say however you like. I'm only speaking from my experience and not employing ANY assumptions or any hearsay. Strictly WHAT I SAW with my own eyes.
also:
Yes, I personally saw them and personally helped the FBI mark them and bag them. We spent 7-10 days doing 12 hour shift rotations inside the Pentagon until all debris was cleared out. As you can imagine it was a mangled mess in there, and as we cleaned up we would find bodies and/or parts. Most were badly burned, especially in the location of where the fire burned the longest. But it was also knee deep waterhttp://kona.kontera.com/javascript/lib/imgs/grey_loader.gif
(http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread476290/pg2#) inside from trying to estinguish the fire so there where many that were not totally burned.
They were also spread over a very wide area. I would say 1,000 square meters or so.
Obviously we don't know for sure one way or another if he telling the truth.
With that being said though what he says seems to be reasonable.
He is not making outrageous claims and I would imagine if one where to disagree with him they could do some simple research to verfiy some of what he is saying.
he is not attacking the truthers or in any way being rude or confrontational.
Of course though as that thread progresses SEVERAL truthers begin to doubt and question him and attacking him.
Of course our hero SPreston is one of them.
Based on the reaction to BigSarge I can see why truthers refuse to interview first responders....THEY WONT BELIEVE THEM ANYWAY!!!!!
If there are no pics of the plane they ask, "where are the pics?"
When shown pics of the plane they comment about how they look fake.
just insert any piece of evidence in the above and you would get the same response.
Can any of our resident truthers answer why it is you think your peers refuse to interview first responders?
This has probably already been asked before but that thread over at ATS just shows the level of disgrace for the victims/first responders that truthers display.
I know nothing is new along that front.
Lets say you want people to view you with an open mind, why attack the victims and first responders?
The DSM really needs a new category for mental illness simply called, "9-11 truther"
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread476290/pg2
"New Pentagon Video Detailing Actual Flight Path Over Naval Annex"
On page 2 a poster by the name of BigSarge posted the following
Long time reader, first time poster. Decided to say something here as this is a subject I have direct knowledge of.
While I have no idea if our Government was part of any conspiracy on 9/11, I can tell you 100% unequivically that it was an American Airlines (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread476290/pg2#) plane that hit the Pentagon.
I can say this because at the time I was Soldier stationed at Ft. Myer, VA as a member of the US Army Honor Guard. We were conducting a funeral on 9-11-2001 in a section of Arlington cemetery that was right across from the Pentagon. We saw the plane come in from over the Naval Annex and seconds later watched the plane explode into the Pentagon. My group had been in the cemetery since early that morning and were unaware of the WTC attacks. We thought it was just a terrible accident.
For the week or so following, US Army Honor Guard Soldiers (myself included) were used to aid in recovery efforts inside the Pentagon. Essentially used for cleaning out all of the bodies and wreckage. I personally found suitcases, ID's, passports (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread476290/pg2#), and PLANE PARTS. Specifically parts with American Airlines markings. Lastly, based on the number of bodies and body parts that we pulled out of there, I would find it very hard to believe that it was an empty plane with no passengers, but I guess it could be possible as none of them were identifiable.
Anyway, take what I say however you like. I'm only speaking from my experience and not employing ANY assumptions or any hearsay. Strictly WHAT I SAW with my own eyes.
also:
Yes, I personally saw them and personally helped the FBI mark them and bag them. We spent 7-10 days doing 12 hour shift rotations inside the Pentagon until all debris was cleared out. As you can imagine it was a mangled mess in there, and as we cleaned up we would find bodies and/or parts. Most were badly burned, especially in the location of where the fire burned the longest. But it was also knee deep waterhttp://kona.kontera.com/javascript/lib/imgs/grey_loader.gif
(http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread476290/pg2#) inside from trying to estinguish the fire so there where many that were not totally burned.
They were also spread over a very wide area. I would say 1,000 square meters or so.
Obviously we don't know for sure one way or another if he telling the truth.
With that being said though what he says seems to be reasonable.
He is not making outrageous claims and I would imagine if one where to disagree with him they could do some simple research to verfiy some of what he is saying.
he is not attacking the truthers or in any way being rude or confrontational.
Of course though as that thread progresses SEVERAL truthers begin to doubt and question him and attacking him.
Of course our hero SPreston is one of them.
Based on the reaction to BigSarge I can see why truthers refuse to interview first responders....THEY WONT BELIEVE THEM ANYWAY!!!!!
If there are no pics of the plane they ask, "where are the pics?"
When shown pics of the plane they comment about how they look fake.
just insert any piece of evidence in the above and you would get the same response.
Can any of our resident truthers answer why it is you think your peers refuse to interview first responders?
This has probably already been asked before but that thread over at ATS just shows the level of disgrace for the victims/first responders that truthers display.
I know nothing is new along that front.
Lets say you want people to view you with an open mind, why attack the victims and first responders?
The DSM really needs a new category for mental illness simply called, "9-11 truther"