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wackyvorlon
10th July 2009, 09:02 AM
It seems the more we research, the more things are identified as linked to cancer. It almost easier to define that which doesn't cause cancer than that which does. Is this just statistical noise, or are humans really that vulnerable?

Ikarus
10th July 2009, 09:11 AM
Our cells are quite vulnerable to many influences, including many sorts of radiation.

But that doesn't answer your question. I think perhaps the words you are looking for are along the lines of "confirmation bias".

Z
10th July 2009, 09:16 AM
Nearly 100% of all cancer patients were born at one point or another; so birth is the number one cause of cancer.

Belz...
10th July 2009, 09:18 AM
Is there *anything* that isn't linked to cancer?

Not by more than six degrees of separation.

BenBurch
10th July 2009, 09:18 AM
Puppies. Puppies are not linked to cancer.

Belz...
10th July 2009, 09:19 AM
Puppies. Puppies are not linked to cancer.

Says you.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_60804a576a1d2bc8a.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=16931)

macdoc
10th July 2009, 09:26 AM
Yes they are ..puppies can smell cancer......:garfield:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/01/0112_060112_dog_cancer.html

Cavemonster
10th July 2009, 09:26 AM
By linked, do you mean, possible contributing cause, or just any association?
Avocados seem to have only positive links that I can find.

wackyvorlon
10th July 2009, 09:39 AM
Possible cause. I admit, I'm often alarmed by people pumping gasoline... You'd be surprised how carcinogenic that is.

HansMustermann
10th July 2009, 09:40 AM
It seems the more we research, the more things are identified as linked to cancer. It almost easier to define that which doesn't cause cancer than that which does. Is this just statistical noise, or are humans really that vulnerable?

All animals are so vulnerable to the mutation that is cancer, that we have layers upon layers of defenses for _when_ not _if_ that happens. Even the fact that you'll die of old age eventually, is because of the division counter limits in all your cells, which in turn seem to be there just as defense against cancer. You'll die of old age in some decades, just so you don't die of cancer within _years_.

But those defenses often fail.

So basically, yeah, we're really that fragile in that aspect.

patchbunny
10th July 2009, 09:49 AM
[George Carlin]This just in. Scientists have discovered that saliva causes stomach cancer. But only when swallowed in small amounts over long periods of time.[/George Carlin]

JJM
10th July 2009, 09:58 AM
We (chemists) have a saying that the only compounds that don't cause cancer are those that are so toxic that they kill you before a tumor can develop.

macdoc
10th July 2009, 11:43 AM
and some of the stuff they drip into to you to cure you treads that line rather closely....:garfield:

plumjam
10th July 2009, 02:03 PM
Crabs

realpaladin
10th July 2009, 03:04 PM
Absolute vacuum.
Absolute zero.
Walking on the surface of the sun.

Ducky
10th July 2009, 03:08 PM
Nearly 100% of all cancer patients were born at one point or another; so birth is the number one cause of cancer.

I wasn't born. I was cat'ed from /dev/null.

realpaladin
10th July 2009, 03:12 PM
I wasn't born. I was cat'ed from /dev/null.
Thinking about it... this is a nice one for the Yrreg threads if modified to:

'cat /dev/random > my.existence'

Mind if I borrow?

Mitchell314
10th July 2009, 03:12 PM
Sleeping!
Wait, no, everybody who has had cancer had slept in their past.


I wasn't born. I was cat'ed from /dev/null.

Man, I'm so sorry for ever doubting you.

Z
10th July 2009, 04:04 PM
Crabs

Incorrect. Crabs are linked to the constellation Cancer.

Neener neener.

Z
10th July 2009, 04:05 PM
I wasn't born. I was cat'ed from /dev/null.

Well, I DID say 'nearly 100%'.

Always leave a little wriggle room... or at least, that's what she told me.

HE said 'Cram that sucker full.'

Ducky
10th July 2009, 04:25 PM
Thinking about it... this is a nice one for the Yrreg threads if modified to:

'cat /dev/random > my.existence'

Mind if I borrow?

Sure! I wasn't sure so many unix geeks would be in this thread. HAHA!

shandyjan
10th July 2009, 04:36 PM
Z you crack me up :D
What gets me is one thing can give you cancer..but it can prevent heart disease..you get the drift. Its like...eat it or nay..pick your disease sometimes :confused: Then something is good for you...no its not, its bad for you.
Id say just give up reading.

Z
10th July 2009, 04:50 PM
Z you crack me up :D
What gets me is one thing can give you cancer..but it can prevent heart disease..you get the drift. Its like...eat it or nay..pick your disease sometimes :confused: Then something is good for you...no its not, its bad for you.
Id say just give up reading.

I go through that all the time with the caffeine issue. My family doc, back when I was six, prescribed caffeine as a treatment for my ADHD. That prescription has been reinforced by nearly every doc I've seen since then, so I basically have no choice but to have three cups, black, a day.

Of course, every few months there's a new study showing the harm of caffeine, followed by one that shows its benefits...

I just ignore all those studies and keep drinking. It's easier once I add the Irish whiskey... :D