Guilty on all counts

[Alareth]

Yesterday, everyones favorite antiestablishment couple, Ed and Elaine Brown, were found guilty on all weapons charges.

In addition they have been convicted of conspiracy to prevent their arrests, conspiracy to forcibly resist arrest, felons in possesion of firearms, obstruction of justice, failure to appear for sentencing and failure to appear at trial (Just Ed for the last one)


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31836804/

[LightinDarkness]

But..but...I was told the court trembles and pronounces you innocent whenever you tell them that you've found out the real definition of income tax and that you can't be taxed!

The wingnuts on ATS are already declaring that this is some sort of "example" of what happens when you protest the government:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread480852/pg1

Actually, its just an example of what happens when you conspire to kill people. Small difference, you know. These two weren't exactly using peaceful protest methods. But hey, who needs details when we can elevate these two to saints among the CT nutjobs?

[Roadtoad]

Hadn't heard about this pair. All I can say is, Holy Hell!, and Good Riddance.

[Zorglub]

But..but...I was told the court trembles and pronounces you innocent whenever you tell them that you've found out the real definition of income tax and that you can't be taxed!

My guess is that they got nailed when they agreed to walk up to the front of the court room.

[LightinDarkness]

My guess is that they got nailed when they agreed to walk up to the front of the court room.

Indeed, the evil court probably tricked them into admiralty law!

[T.A.M.]

Yesterday, everyones favorite antiestablishment couple, Ed and Elaine Brown, were found guilty on all weapons charges.

In addition they have been convicted of conspiracy to prevent their arrests, conspiracy to forcibly resist arrest, felons in possesion of firearms, obstruction of justice, failure to appear for sentencing and failure to appear at trial (Just Ed for the last one)


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31836804/

IIRC, wasn't their some remote connection between these two and Luke of We Are Change?

TAM:)

[dudalb]

Alex Libman says they are heros, and he hopes to kill a few federal law enforcement officials before he goes:...


http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4892397

:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp

Some of us are speculating this is Alex's latest attempt at suicide by mod......

[dudalb]

dp

[1337m4n]

Alex Libman says they are heros, and he hopes to kill a few federal law enforcement officials before he goes:...


http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4892397

:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp

Some of us are speculating this is Alex's latest attempt at suicide by mod......

Alex Libman reminds me of me back when I was in my "libertarian phase". Seems to be something a lot of teenagers go through.

Except one major difference...I never advocated anybody's murder.

The man has mental issues and belongs in an asylum.

[NWO Sentryman]

well, one up for rational thinking everywhere.

[Brainster]

IIRC, wasn't their some remote connection between these two and Luke of We Are Change?

TAM:)

Not so remote. Alex had Luke and Matt Lepacek drive up to the Browns' house sometime in June 2007, and Luke gave a live report on the show. There are photos of Luke with the Browns (http://a70.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/21/l_908f881241e0bb5f4919073cf287996d.jpg) in their house. In addition, We Are Change member Jason Gerhardt ended up staying with the Browns and was later sentenced to 20 years.

[Mikister]

He also said the property was booby trapped to scare intruders, not harm them.

The more I think of it, the more my head hurts.

[Alferd_Packer]

I wonder if the flag in the court room had a gold fringe on it?

[Thunder]

wasn't their arrest and conviction going to lead to a revolution??

what happened?

:D

[Alferd_Packer]

Weren't some of the truthers caught up in that nonsense as well?

[Zorglub]

wasn't their arrest and conviction going to lead to a revolution??
It's happening right now. As we speak dozens of angry posts are being written on different conspiracy-friendly forums. Run for the hills. :D

[dudalb]

It's happening right now. As we speak dozens of angry posts are being written on different conspiracy-friendly forums. Run for the hills. :D

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_188404967a42aac31d.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=14819)

I give you the revolution.





Somehow, these types don't seem like the kind to storm the Bastille....

[T.A.M.]

Alex Libman says they are heros, and he hopes to kill a few federal law enforcement officials before he goes:...


http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4892397

:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp

Some of us are speculating this is Alex's latest attempt at suicide by mod......

It says I do not have permission to access that link?

Odd.

TAM:)

edit: ah, I see the suicide by mod has already occurred. Oh well, one more I can remove from my ignore list.

[dudalb]

Yeah, Alex acheived his objective: Got bragging rights on AnCap websites about how JREF was repressing him....

[fuelair]

Alex Libman says they are heros, and he hopes to kill a few federal law enforcement officials before he goes:...


http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4892397

:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp

Some of us are speculating this is Alex's latest attempt at suicide by mod......Evidently a quite successful one.:D

[Bobert]

Alex Libman says they are heros, and he hopes to kill a few federal law enforcement officials before he goes:...


http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4892397

:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:eye-poppi:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp

Some of us are speculating this is Alex's latest attempt at suicide by mod......
Uh oh that post got moved to the, "secret place" so his wish may be coming true.

[Bobert]

Alex behaviour makes me wish that more truthers would practice, "j walking for 9-11 truth" like that Dice guy did by running in and out of traffic.
Unfortunately it worked out for Dice.

[Checkmite]

Evidently a quite successful one.:D

Not only that, but he predicted the result ahead of time. He said in his post that the thread in question was going to be the last thread he'd ever post in on the forum, and not in the "I quit" context.

[Roadtoad]

Not only that, but he predicted the result ahead of time. He said in his post that the thread in question was going to be the last thread he'd ever post in on the forum, and not in the "I quit" context.

He still doesn't get the million. :p

[1337m4n]

There are no words in the english language sufficient to describe Alex's level of arrogance and conviction of his own **** smelling like spring daisies and cinnamon. I would like to be the first to say good riddance.


His ban notice is puzzling though; what does "on instruction from the JREF" mean? I suppose I should ask FM.

[dudalb]

I reported Alex to the JREF, so I might be at least partial responsible for his departure, but I have to agree: His incredible arrogance will not be missed.
He was a huge Ayn Rand fan. I have noted that Ayn Rand fans tend to behave toward others with the incredible arrogance that Rand' s heros have toward their "inferiors". And what is really sickening is that Rand and her fans find this behavior admirable.

[Klimax]

Yeah, Alex acheived his objective: Got bragging rights on AnCap websites about how JREF was repressing him....

If he hasn't been banned from them in the meantime...

[Alt+F4]

IIRC, wasn't their some remote connection between these two and Luke of We Are Change?

TAM:)

Yes, he visited them during their standoff. Luck for him he didn't stay. There was a photograph of him with Ed and a few other of the followers. Today Luke is the only one not doing hard time in a federal prison.

As for the Browns, they will die in prison. So go ahead tax protestors, take your best shot!

[INRM]

Conspiracy to prevent their arrests? What's that?

[Checkmite]

Conspiracy to prevent their arrests? What's that?

It seems to mean "working together to delay or stop the police from arresting the two (three, four, etc) of you".

[Alt+F4]

wasn't their arrest and conviction going to lead to a revolution??

what happened?

:D

Good post from Quatloos! sums it up well:

At this time it might be appropriate to observe a moment of silence for all the patriots who stood by Ed and Elaine Brown during the trial -- the family and friends, you know.

Let's see, according to the report by Demosthenes, there was:
__________________

and of course
__________________

and who could forget _________, who was there every day of the trial.

Boy, these anti-government, anti-Mason, anti-Semitic blowhards are really there for you when you need 'em, aren't they?

Ed?

Aren't they?

Ed?

Elaine?

Link:
http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4550

[Orphia Nay]

Good post from Quatloos! sums it up well:



Link:
http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4550

Calling the nutjobs "splitters" somehow doesn't do them justice.

[LashL]

Yesterday, everyones favorite antiestablishment couple, Ed and Elaine Brown, were found guilty on all weapons charges.

In addition they have been convicted of conspiracy to prevent their arrests, conspiracy to forcibly resist arrest, felons in possesion of firearms, obstruction of justice, failure to appear for sentencing and failure to appear at trial (Just Ed for the last one)


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31836804/

No surprise, really. The evidence against them was clear, compelling and unambiguous, and they presented no legitimate defence. What little defence they did present was abysmal.

[JoeyDonuts]

Did they actually try the "Freeman" defense?

You'd think the judge would read that as an insanity plea.

[Orphia Nay]

Did they actually try the "Freeman" defense?

You'd think the judge would read that as an insanity plea.

:big: