9/11 Truth Parade Video - July 4th

[LightinDarkness]

I didn't see this anywhere but if someone else has already posted this I apologize -

The congregation of twoofers over on ATS were extremely excited over a recent "9/11 truth parade" by a Cincinnati 9/11 Truth group:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread479119/pg1

Direct YouTube link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoa2OK9XA6o

I really wouldn't call it a parade. I'd call it a bastion of about 20-40 high schoolers and college kids with a few ex-hippies here and there. I mean, there were no floats, really, just cardboard signs attached to twoofer vehicles.

Overall, if this shows the strength of 9/11 twoof, its in a very sad state.

[LightinDarkness]

By the the way, the ATS twoofers seem to think that they got a rave response, but I notice the video cutting A LOT for no apparent reason - probably to cut out the hecklers? Why splice the video so much at strange points if not to block out the people who weren't cheering for you?

Even so, I saw quite a few people laughing at them.

[alexi_drago]

Are there such things as roundabouts in the US or was it just the editing?

[eromitlab]

There are some roundabouts (or rotaries depending on the region) in the US. My town has several.

[Josarhus]

Also posted here:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=147450

But the video is always funny to look at, as a Dane I got the idea that the truth movement was a big thing in America, but after seeing that video I realized that they are not that many and even better, they look kinda silly.

[Bobert]

9-11 truth will end this war
WOW that one lofty claim!
I wonder how they achieve this?

[Bobert]

Its usually a good idea of you can actually read what is printed when you display a large white paper sign!
BTW I feel very sorry for those young kids who are running around with their deadbeat parents.

[LightinDarkness]

Ugh, I thought I kept pretty tight tabs on the 9/11 forum topics and yet somehow completely missed this was posted before.

Well, at least we have a new perspective here with the ATS reactions, which are:

"YEAH! WERE REALLY BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY AS A MOVEMENT NOW!"

[HereticHulk]

I really wouldn't call it a parade. I'd call it a bastion of about 20-40 high schoolers and college kids with a few ex-hippies here and there. I mean, there were no floats, really, just cardboard signs attached to twoofer vehicles.

Overall, if this shows the strength of 9/11 twoof, its in a very sad state.

Isn't your rational here a logical fallacy?

Argumentum ad numerum

[LightinDarkness]

Isn't your rational here a logical fallacy?

Argumentum ad numerum

A nice try but no. I never made the argument that having less supporters was somehow invalided the debunked claims of the twoof movement. I made the observation that the twoof movement "parade" lacked the qualities that are usully given to a "parade" (ie, lots of people, floats, etc.).

[Axiom_Blade]

WOW that one lofty claim!
I wonder how they achieve this?

Believe it or not, the logic goes like this:
The War on Terror was caused by 9/11. Therefore, if you can discredit 9/11, there will be no foundation for the war.

Never mind that the invasion of Iraq was predicated on, y'know, WMD, not 9/11, and that once no WMD was found, that didn't cause the war to end, either. However, this rhetoric allowed the deniers to justify piggybacking off the anti-war movement, and to make it seem like their cause is much more noble.

[Bobert]

Believe it or not, the logic goes like this:
The War on Terror was caused by 9/11. Therefore, if you can discredit 9/11, there will be no foundation for the war.

Never mind that the invasion of Iraq was predicated on, y'know, WMD, not 9/11, and that once no WMD was found, that didn't cause the war to end, either. However, this rhetoric allowed the deniers to justify piggybacking off the anti-war movement, and to make it seem like their cause is much more noble.
Maybe truthers should venture outside of their paranoia filled truther sites and tallk to the many people of this world who have been the victims of suicide bombers.
But then again they wont because after all the US Government and the NWO are of course behind all these bombings.

[alexi_drago]

There are some roundabouts (or rotaries depending on the region) in the US. My town has several.

No, my mistake it's only that there's so many bits cut and edited together. The house they are walking past at 2:48 is the same house in the background at 0:20

[R.Mackey]

From the comments appended to that video: "Richard Gage is presenting to Congress next this month."

O RLY? :D

[eromitlab]

Gage will probably do what the WAC LA kids did last week and ambush whatever Congressmen they come across in the hallway with a bundle of pseudoscientific papers, while some acolyte tapes it with the 'rents camcorder to put it up on youtube.

[Trojan]

When did the NYPD and NYFD ask for the truthers to speak for them?

:eye-poppi

[triforcharity]

Trojan,

Never. In fact, 99.999999% of NYPD and FDNY can't stand those dunces. I know this for a fact!! Heck, I have been to GZ every year on 9/11, and can assure you, they will not approach us as a group. Usually they wait untill they find one lone person by themself, and ambush them as if they were the Viet Cong.

[HereticHulk]

Overall, if this shows the strength of 9/11 twoof, its in a very sad state.


I never made the argument that having less supporters was somehow invalided the debunked claims of the twoof movement. I made the observation that the twoof movement "parade" lacked the qualities that are usully given to a "parade" (ie, lots of people, floats, etc.).



Huh?

[16.5]

I swear they had the same woman screaming "WOOOOOOO" at the beginning of every cut.

I'm thinking the guy in the kilt really hit the weights in anticipation of his march down Die Strasse. hee hee hee!

[Björn Toulouse]

I really wouldn't call it a parade. I'd call it a bastion of about 20-40 high schoolers and college kids with a few ex-hippies here and there. I mean, there were no floats, really, just cardboard signs attached to twoofer vehicles.

Overall, if this shows the strength of 9/11 twoof, its in a very sad state.

Counting the kids, I only saw around 15. One flag bearer, two banners, and one pickup truck. I thought that the video cutting was because the camera guy had only those four things to shoot, so after the truck passed, he had to run ahead and shoot them all again -over and over and over.

[LightinDarkness]

Huh?

Do not try to apply logical fallacies you do not understand, it makes twoofer minds go boom.

That easier to understand for you?

[zorro99]

They sure do look silly and stupid. I don't know why they post these things on the internet.

[alexi_drago]

Counting the kids, I only saw around 15. One flag bearer, two banners, and one pickup truck. I thought that the video cutting was because the camera guy had only those four things to shoot, so after the truck passed, he had to run ahead and shoot them all again -over and over and over.

There were more but then they had to be the ones sitting in the chairs and moving along with the 'parade' to make it look like people were lining the streets. And some people came out their houses to see what the racket was.

[eromitlab]

Counting the kids, I only saw around 15. One flag bearer, two banners, and one pickup truck. I thought that the video cutting was because the camera guy had only those four things to shoot, so after the truck passed, he had to run ahead and shoot them all again -over and over and over.

I thought the same thing. Really poor from a filmmaking standpoint... the kid's got a real future making truther vids.